YTSEJAM Digest 1878
Today's Topics:
1) List of dealers
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
2) Metropolis II
by Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
3) Re: DT Doom
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1870 CANCEL SUBCRIBTION
by "Nicholas Lombard, Marla or Tavon Markov" <njlpro@gte.net>
5) Fade Outs, etc. NDTC
by "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
6) doom aint dead :)
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
7) Re: Fade-Outs, Eric Johnson, Jalapenos, Chocolates, Fade-outs redux
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
8) Re: Chris Poland
by DigiKon5@aol.com
9) Workin Man
by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
10) More Visual Music!
by Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
11) Necronomicron
by kurt@fgallery.com
12) JPM100ltd
by Jeffrey David Olson <sinista@netexpress.net>
13) Re: Rush in Balt/DC (w/DTC!)
by SaVeur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
14) Re: The Beyond/Gorilla WWW Page
by Andrew Berry <andy@aberry.demon.co.uk>
15) Re: More Visual Music!
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
16) Re: chris poland
by "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
17) Another stupid comment from the blind guy FireGarden
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
18) Prog music & bands
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
19) To tribute or not to tribute
by Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net>
20) Various Ramblings.
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:05:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: List of dealers
Message-ID: <199609271905.PAA23409@beasley.cris.com>
Hi all,
I once ran across a DT-related web page that had a list of bootleg dealers
and a little comment for each about reliability and such. I can't find that
page now.
Anyone know where it is?
Thanks,
-Rick Audet
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 96 21:22 DFT
From: Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metropolis II
Message-ID: <m0v6iUb-0002gqC@tellus.thn.htu.se>
>> de tchigga diga
>> dum diga
>> digadigadum dum digadigadum diga diga
>>
>>
>> deeeaa dee
>> dobadoba dee
>>dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee
>> dee dee dee dee dee
>
HEY-HEY! I KNOW THIS ONE !!!
Been dreamin' 'bout it the last week!
I'm almost certain, anyway
I'd better go changing those underpants
Later/
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Henrik Gustafsson
Quality deployer
henrik@thn.htu.se +46 (0)520 47 50 49 (fax +46 (0)520 47 50 98)
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:06:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT Doom
Message-ID: <199609272006.QAA15952@beasley.cris.com>
>> I know this question is soooooo last year, but can someone e-mail
>> me privately about getting that DT version of Doom I heard so much about?
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>Doom is history. Maybe someone can make a Quake or Duke Nukem 3D
>Dream Theater level ???
History? What do you mean? I just downloaded my copy of the Doom2 DT level
today. :P
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\***************** Richard S. Audet ********************/
/****************** ytse@cris.com ********************\
\**** Graduate Student in Electrical Engineering ******/
/********* University of Florida ********\
\****** B.S.E.E. & B.Music MUE University of Miami, 1995 ******/
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:25:19 +0000
From: "Nicholas Lombard, Marla or Tavon Markov" <njlpro@gte.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1870 CANCEL SUBCRIBTION
Message-ID: <324BFFEF.34A2@gte.net>
CANCEL MY NAME ON YOUR LIST
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:58:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: Kedves Uraimnak <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fade Outs, etc. NDTC
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960927165658.36af212e@pop.pipeline.com>
1. Fade-outs
Mentioning fade-outs reminds me of old Dio. Every one of his songs
used to fade out. And how about "Blood Red Skies" by Judas Priest?
They cut off Halford in mid-verse! The cd cover has lyrics which are
never sung. That sucks. Another cool fade-out was on Lizzy Borden's
"Master of Disguise" album, which I would recommend to fans of groups
like Savatage, etc, because it has that concept/prog vibe to it. I think
the song was "Master of Disguise" or "Under the Rose" or something.
This cd can be found in the cheap bin for a few dollars.
2. Promised Land and the missing definite object
I would most closely compare this phenomenon with, for example,
Disney Land. You don't say, "I am going to *the* Disney Land."
But, conversely, in the US we don't say, "I attend University of
Maryland" but, "I attend *the* University of Maryland." So, it can
be confusing because some english-speakers say things like, "go to
university" or "go to hospital." The *the* in most proper-noun locations
is just treated as a clarification tool. Like, if someone were to ask
to *which* Disney Land you were going, you would answer (fuck off, Mr.
Conditional Tense, one more time for good measure), "I am going to the
Disney Land in Florida." This works for personal names, too, except really
pompous,
pretentious types like Donald Trump. He he. The Donald, my ass.
3. New Mercyful Fate
This is much better than "Time." The new King Diamond comes out soon.
Kevin <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:00:50 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: doom aint dead :)
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960927210050.006bcb10@mail.inlink.com>
>
>Doom is history. Maybe someone can make a Quake or Duke Nukem 3D
>Dream Theater level ???
>
actually, i just got a doom full conversion that turns the whole friggin'
game into Army Of Darkness Doom. its fuckin' insane.. it starts out in the
old cabin from Evil Dead, where you gotta go get the chainsaw and
necronomicron, then you hit the time portal.. and as i said, everything is
different, the charactars, sound effects, graphics, music.. any Horror fans
gotta check this out :)
now if someone did a full conversion DT doom.... wowow :) or even Duke3d
full conversion if possible... duke3d is a shitload better other than the
fact that theres no AOD conversion ;)
also, anyone notice how in Duke3d a whole shit load of his cool lines were
ripped off bruce C. in AOD?
"groovy"
:)
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:20:57 EDT
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fade-Outs, Eric Johnson, Jalapenos, Chocolates, Fade-outs redux
Message-ID: <9609272120.AA16916@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
E-man, I hope you were joking about the fade-outs because there is one flaw
in your theory. Yeah, the sound man may fade all the instruments aout, but
the drummer, poor soul is still going. I only heard this once successfully on
a Genesis live CD, where they were playing Supper's Ready and the band fades
out, but I think they still land on a solid chord and let the volume drop
out. Then the crowd roars. But, the whole live fadeout thing is cheesey. ON
records, it can work, depending on how it's used. Anotther example of poorly
faded out songs is Different Strings on Permanent Waves from Rush. Fades out
right on the guitar solo, and it sounded like we should've heard more there,
doncha think? My philosophy is come up with an ending. Use fadeouts if you
have to on a studio song, because it's there and you can use it if you need
to, but don't fade out on somebody's solo, and for God's sakes, come up with
an ending live, because in my experience, the fadeouts live suck. E, I really
hope you were joking about that.
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:18:53 -0400
From: DigiKon5@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Chris Poland
Message-ID: <960927171851_112606008@emout13.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-09-26 11:39:07 EDT, you write:
<< wasnt chris poland on megadeth?? he was mentioned
>earlier on the jam..
Yes he was! I think he was on "Killing is my business..." >>
And Peace Sells.. as well....
--DK5
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:24:12 -0600
From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Workin Man
Message-ID: <s24bf2bf.087@IOMEGA.COM>
Jam-sons,
In the Lemur Voice liner, the last two pages show the Magna Carta
catalog listing. The first page is primarily their tribute albums.
All of them list who the tribute is to except for, you guessed it,
Working man. It simply says 'A Tribute' whereas the other say 'a
Jethro Tull Tribute' or 'A Genesis Tribute'. What's up with that? Ya
think Rush's management had something to do with it or is it simply a
typo?
Enquiring minds want to know...
Wilmo
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:20:19 -0500
From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
To: Vomiting In Digital <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: More Visual Music!
Message-ID: <v01540b05ae71fcd10061@bootp-246-17.bootp.virginia.edu>
OK, guess this Visual Music song:
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........
doo doo
doo doo doodoo doobeedoo
doo doo boo doo doodie
doo doo boo dee blornk hack
krunk krunk krunk krunk krunk krunk krunk
hack frump zooboodley
crash booyah dedededededboodoodoo bebebebtogatoga
boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo
boo boo zoo boo boo goo boo vanderloo boo boo
boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo
zingadinga boogabooga hubbahubba mackadaddy
p00t! d00d! w00tie! sn00p!
yabba wang ding fahr
dabba dang a feg
doo sweet ling nu
poon gen
tang
noodley-noodley-noodley-noodley-noodley-noodley-noodley-noodley
bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu
thumpa thumpa thumpa thumpa thumpa
bumpagrinda scoobacca suckameea thrak
wastabandwidthwastabandwidthwastabandwidthwastabandwidthwastabandwidth
boomatappa shoobie doo wop
frinka wonka boogaloo
frappa wappa coocoocajoob
shamalamadingdong
phhhttttpppphhhtttptththththththtpphphphphphththththtphphphththt!!!!
Scott.
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:28:06 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Necronomicron
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.9.27.-15.28.6.2916992174.347647@bbs.fgallery.com>
Does anyone know what happened to the saturn pinball game petrucci was
making music for??
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:45:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeffrey David Olson <sinista@netexpress.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JPM100ltd
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960927164055.22836B-100000@shamu>
> From: Thomas Bell <cmbell@inx.net>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: JPM
> Message-ID: <199609262255.SAA05932@inx>
>
> I play a jpm 100. I really like it but I had a U.S.A. Custom that was a lot
> nicer of a guitar. I traded it in on the jpm and when I finally got it I
> was sort of disappointed in it but as time went on I started to like it and
> now I can't play anything else. Does anyone else have the first batch of jpm's?
> Corey Bell
>
>
I too have one of the first JP Ibanez, Certificate and all..I like it
alot. I felt like a kid in school getting a new pair of shoes, "Now I can
run faster, jump higher, and will be the kewlest kid on the block."
:)
Jeff Olson
Sinista
sinista@netexpress.net
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:47:32 -0400
From: SaVeur <saveur@cais.cais.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Rush in Balt/DC (w/DTC!)
Message-ID: <199609272147.RAA06927@cais.cais.com>
Pat wrote:
>Tickets went on sale today at 10am. I go over to ticketbastard at 930 I
>am 9th in line and I endded up with section 107 row j. This is basically
i went up to the local Hects around 7.30am to find a huge line of...4 ppl
and the last guy was my guitarist who was just hold our spot. we got sec 108
row v and another block in sec 109 row v. the first guy in line got row v on
the floor, 2nd guy got row v in 107...i see a pattern forming...and it sux.
ah well.
while we were standing in line, we got talking about other stuff we listen
to and the young HS guy behind me says "i think the most technically
talented band out there right now is DT" which naturally lead to a
discussion. ah, the word starts to spread :)
alter,
-john
j . c h r i s t i a n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
e
n
s h t t p : / / w w w . c a i s . n e t / j j e n s /
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:37:29 +0100 (BST)
From: Andrew Berry <andy@aberry.demon.co.uk>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: The Beyond/Gorilla WWW Page
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.08-0927153729-064evuQ@aberry.demon.co.uk>
On Thu 26 Sep, Jan van Huizen wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'd like to say that Gorilla (used to be called The Beyond) now
> have a WWW page : http://www.greatbasin.com/~nothing/beyond.html
>
Excellant! I wasn't sure how big they were outside the UK, but I understand
that they were more popular in the US than over here. Gorilla actually live
very near to me (Derby, England), and the band I play in supported them at a
local gig last February. We've been to see them quite a few times now, and
our bass player bought Jim's bass when he left the band, complete with
flight case with The Beyond stickers on from when they toured the US.
For anyone who hasn't heard the band they are well worth listening to.
Their material seems to be getting heavier all the time and the two EPs
under the Gorilla name are a must. When we spoke to them a few months ago
there were plans for an album - I haven't heard anything since but I hope
that they do one soon! They're in the process of signing to Earache records,
so hopefully we should see something from them soon!
-- +---- Andrew Berry --------------------- http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk ----+ | Metal Links - 1140 links to 510 metal bands' pages across the internet | +--------------- http://www.aberry.demon.co.uk/metallist/ -----------------+ +- URLs wanted to be added to the list - mailto:andrew@aberry.demon.co.uk -+------------------------------
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:05:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: More Visual Music! Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.960927180430.8649A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Scotch wrote:
> doo doo > doo doo doodoo doobeedoo > doo doo boo doo doodie > doo doo boo dee blornk hack > krunk krunk krunk krunk krunk krunk krunk > hack frump zooboodley > crash booyah dedededededboodoodoo bebebebtogatoga > boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo > boo boo zoo boo boo goo boo vanderloo boo boo > boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo > zingadinga boogabooga hubbahubba mackadaddy > p00t! d00d! w00tie! sn00p! > yabba wang ding fahr > dabba dang a feg > doo sweet ling nu > poon gen > tang > noodley-noodley-noodley-noodley-noodley-noodley-noodley-noodley > bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu bafu > thumpa thumpa thumpa thumpa thumpa > bumpagrinda scoobacca suckameea thrak > wastabandwidthwastabandwidthwastabandwidthwastabandwidthwastabandwidth > boomatappa shoobie doo wop > frinka wonka boogaloo > frappa wappa coocoocajoob > shamalamadingdong > phhhttttpppphhhtttptththththththtpphphphphphththththtphphphththt!!!!
That one's easy. It's "only a matter of time." Only a matter of time until Skadz bans this game.
Brandon
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:10:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: chris poland Message-ID: <199609272210.SAA27017@atl1.america.net>
>>How can i get my post ..a day after i get a reply for it!??? this is >>very wierd.. also..wasnt chris poland on megadeth?? he was mentioned >>earlier on the jam.. > > Yes he was! I think he was on "Killing is my business..."
What has he been doing recently? I haven't heard anything about him since his Megadeth days. He was on Killing...and also was on Peace Sells But Who's Buying. I never really liked his style though. Marty Friedman can run circles around most guitar soloists these days (except Dimebag Darrell). Beavis (Wes Foll) /| / ||\ / || \ ______________ _ ______ _ __ __ //| || \\_____ _____| ||___ // |\ \/ / //_| || \ | || || | | || |/ ///|| \ / / __ || |\ \ | || || |__| || <//_|| / \ / / | || | \ \| || || __ || |\ \__ |/ /\ \ /_/ |_||_| \ || || | |_||_|/\ \ || / \_\ \ || ||/ \_\||/ \ ||/ \| "What is, is. What is not, is not. What is is, and is not, is is, and is not."
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 96 18:15:16 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Another stupid comment from the blind guy FireGarden Message-ID: <9609272215.AA19132@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Got my promo copy of FireGarden or whatever Vai's new one is a few weeks ago, and haven been casually listening to it. Believe it or not, the greatest track on the CD in my mind is the one about his little weiner. That is the funniest shit I have ever heard on a CD. Oh, the instrumental stuff rocks, but the weiner thing is hysterical. Maybe I take the blind references in it too literally.
By the way, I did not go blind by playing with my weiner, thank you.
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Date: 27 Sep 96 15:01:38 -0700 From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Prog music & bands Message-ID: <199609272213.PAA17000@mailseq4.us.oracle.com>
First off, I'd like to thank all of you on this list for all of the comments/information about prog music. I just managed to get ahold of Lemur Voice, Shadow Gallery(CIS), and Altura, and I'm very impressed with all of it. I'm looking forward to many hours digesting this material, and I wouldn't have even known about it if it weren't for this list. Secondly, Marcel - you rock!! shit, that's some fantastic guitar work. Akasha Chronicles rules!! Great stuff from Brendt Allman too.. And the keys for Shadow Gallery are amazing.. Thirdly, am I strange or are there others on this list who could spend a blissful night with a case of beer and DT, Shadow Gallery, Lemur Voice, Altura, and Fates Warning spinning in the changer? Oh, and a guitar in hand for uncontrollable noodling =). Just thought I'd share some of my innermost desires.. -Neil. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / "If peeing yourself is cool, then consider me Miles Davis..." / / --> crazy old lady from 'Billy Madison' / /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 96 17:08:17 -0000 From: Jennifer <jenibear@gvn.net> To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: To tribute or not to tribute Message-ID: <199609280006.RAA23582@pawn.ax.com>
Bradon said the following in Ytsejam #1875:
>I'm glad Rush was trying to stop WM. Since they feel it's not time for a >tribute they obviously have more musical contributions to give to us
I really don't understand the hoopla over not allowing for a tribute album. I mean, these other artists wanted to pay *homage* to Rush. Bringing out an album to honor them in no way precludes any further works from the band. It's a way for someone to say, "Thanks for being an influence." To bring some DT content into this, wasn't that the point of the Ronnie Scotts "Uncovered" gig?
Jen
o.-.o For millions of years mankind lived just like animals. ((^)) Then something happened which unleashed the power of our O) _ (O imagination...we learned to talk. (Gilmour/Samson) O/ \O
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:23:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Various Ramblings. Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960927201932.17035A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Hiya Kids@! Only 3 weeks before the con. ARE YOU EXCITED? Notes Of Interst:
1) To those of you who still want copies of Kevin Moore's "Music Meant To Be Heard" demo, pleas e-mail me. I don't bite. :)
2) I'm organizing a tape tree for the con. I'm open to any and ALL suggestions (since i have no idea what the fuck i'm supposed to do in the first place). E-mail me, and we'll work somethin' out!@
3) I just got the new Godflesg record today. Whew!@ It's sweet.
4) I like the number 4.
5) I've been reading alot latley about Green Day, and i have my say on the matter:
Today at work I played DOOKIE on my cd player, and lemme tell ya, it rocked pretty hard. They're not flashy and they're not technical, but then again 3-chord punk never was. It's in your face music, and it comes accross. The boys had no idea it was gonna sell 6 million records. If it's good music, it's good music.
so there. :)
----------------------------------------------- Michael B. Ostrich - musical advisor/consultant email: syrinx@dreamt.org syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..you can surrender without a prayer but never really pray without surrender. you can fight without ever winning but never ever win without a fight." - neil peart.
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