YTSEJAM Digest 2450
Today's Topics:
1) hitnf and old QR
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
2) YTSEJAM digest 2.448 * 10^3
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
3) How? NDTC
by edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk)
4) Re: Eric Johnson in Baltimore
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
5) prog assignment
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
6) Re: Soundgarden
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
7) Queensryche- Why not Rage for Order?
by "Dusty Vestal" <vestal@pop.usa.net>
8) JP's sound bites on Mesa/Boogie.com
by "Dan Souza" <soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2449
by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
10) Re: Ryche bashing
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
11) concept albums - iced earth
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2449
by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
13) Yanni
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
14) Re: miscellaneous debris
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
15) God Hides Rush and Ozzy
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
16) FS: Dream Theater "No Sleep Since Brooklyn/ Instrumental 3"
by Tim <axe@mail1.nai.net>
17) Re: Yanni
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:39:23 -0500
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: hitnf and old QR
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970411213923.0076fd8c@mail.inlink.com>
>
>What were the signature elements of Queensryche's sound? To me, they
>were:
<snip>
well, these elements where what you personally liked in the band, but key
elements dont create a band's sound. the way they write and the way it
comes together is the queensryche sound, and the sound of any band, and its
something that cant be explained and notated. to me, HitNF is just as good
as any ryche. there's variability in all of their albums, i didnt hear many
of those elements in promised land, and its my favorite Ryche disc. hitnf
has that ryche sound, i cant see anyone deny that. a lot of style has
changed, but the overall come together is still the same. the change from
PL to HitNF was no more drastic than Empire to PL.. but of course...
Empire comes out: people complain it isnt mindcrime
PL comes out: people complain it isnt Empire
HitNF comes out: you get the picture.
they've been doing this for years, i can live with the fact that someone
doesnt like it, i just think its ignorant to say they've lost their "sound"
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:00:50 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: All of my love slaves <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2.448 * 10^3
Message-ID: <334EB492.4080@auburn.net>
> like Yngwie?" More often than using the term "sextuplet," which is how
> I've heard six-note runs are supposed to be termed, people will say "hex."
> What I meant was simply "three notes per beat, four beats per measure." To
> date I don't know which, hex or sex, is more correct, but I've heard in
> some cultures you can be hexed for even thinking about sex.
Yes, you can. The kids I used to teach had a habit of saying "sixlets"
instead of "hextuplets" or "sextuplets." That annoyed the shit out of
me.
So I whipped them, made them do 50 pushups, and run until they puked.
Damn kids.
Mark Peters
swifty@twav.com
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:36:05 EDT
From: edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: How? NDTC
Message-ID: <19970412.063400.3302.1.EdWilk@juno.com>
Hi there Jammers,
Wow.. it's wierd. I either post here frequently, or I IRC on the
#ytsejam frequently, but never both at the same time. C'est la vie. On
to the topic..
> i don't know how i got on this mailing list. i beg of you to
take me off of it
> please do this - as soon as possible.
HOW the hell do they do it? I mean, I see this about twice a
month, and I wonder. It takes me forever to figure out how to subscribe
to a list, and when I do, I'm pretty impressed with myself, but some
people seem to magically appear on this list. :) It's just too damn
funny..
Ytse-Ed
12 days 'till new KevMo! I mean.. till new Fates! <EG>
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:53:41 -0500 (EST)
From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Eric Johnson in Baltimore
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970411185257.711384192A-100000@drew.edu>
> In Thursday's weekend section for the Baltimore Sun it says Eric Johnson
> (there is only one-right?) will be at Bohagers on Tuesday May 20th.
I've never been there, but why mist it have such as red-neck sounding
name. You guys on the list should hear how people in Baltimore pronounce
"Bohagers."
Brandon
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:56:56 -0500 (EST)
From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: prog assignment
Message-ID: <01IHL8A0T03M0039UD@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
I'm looking for ideas and opinions for a graphic design assignment I have.
The project is to design an album cover, and I'm going to design the cover for
a fictional progressive compilation. It would have DT, Rush, QR, Savatage, FW,
all that good stuff. I've been analyzing the covers of these bands to get an
idea of the elements they use. This sort of relates to that age-old debate of
what progessive music is, because I need to graphically define it. I also
need a title. My teacher came up with "Hard:On the Rocks" buuuuut, I'm not
sure about that.
I don't want anyone doing my homework for me. Well, I do. But that's
not the point. What I would like is for people to share w/me is the things
you notice about progressive metal, particularly the album design, that you
notice most. What common images do you see? What sort of emotions do they
evoke? Personally, I think Awake and ACOS epitomize the progressive image
that DT should have. Thoughts?
And does *anyone* have an idea for a title that would compell you
to look at the CD?
You probably ought to e-mail me privately for this, unless you really want to
hassle the whole ytsejam. It's bad enough that I just did! :)
Joshua
rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 18:02:50 -0500
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Soundgarden
Message-ID: <334ec31a5b81021@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 19:46:20 +0200
> From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: another Soundgarden thing & lots of clearing up to do
> Message-ID: <199704111559.SAA02607@lahmaat.guvatrak.ee>
>
> > grunge/alternapop. They did songs from the likes of "Mailman" and
> > "Limo Wreck" - atmospheric, edgy rockers - to the softer things such
>
> *snip*
>
> > riddance." Here's hoping that Cornell and Thayil can refresh their
> > horizons (the other two guys can't write music worth shit).
>
> How wrong you are. Who wrote "Mailman"? Matt Cameron. Who wrote
> "Rhinosaur"? Matt Cameron. Who wrote "Fresh Tendrils"? Again, the
> word Cameron comes to mind. (He did the lyrics too). "Applebite"?
> Cameron. "Limo Wreck"? Cameron and Thayil.
[snip]
I respect your opinion. Cornell's and Thayil's writing just have much more of an
effect on me. I can't stand "Head Down" or "Half" (the only songs on that album
I don't like), or most of Down on the Upside. To each his own. BTW, I don't deny
that Cameron/Sheperd have talent - I just don't care for their work, for the
most part.
> Too bad Thayil wrote the least, though. I've always enjoyed "Room A
> Thousand Years Wide" and "Never The Machine Forever" (9/8 sounds
> awesome).
The other song on DOTU that I sort of like.
> To the guy who said Cornell sings outta key. (Probably Vince.) Listen
> again. Cornell has probably one of the most powerful rock voices out
> there. He's come a really long way since "Louder Than Love".
Very true - I like his earlier work better though.
On the subject, I might also mention that I think "Say Hello 2 Heaven" is my
favorite Cornell performance.
-Brian
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royalties, what are you gonna sing about on your second album? Then all you can
do is blow your head off and become a legend." - Paul Stanley of KISS
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 05:23:26 +0000
From: "Dusty Vestal" <vestal@pop.usa.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Queensryche- Why not Rage for Order?
Message-ID: <199704112322.RAA08663@earth.usa.net>
I noticed alot of jammers saying that either "Promised Land" or
"Operation Mindcrime" was their favorite, but for some reason, "Rage
for Order" always gets the shaft??? I'm just suprised, since it was
easily their most progressive!!!...The incredible vocals on that
album, blow any album they have ever done away!!!!!!!....
Take Care.......Dusty
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 20:45:27 -0300
From: "Dan Souza" <soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br>
To: "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: JP's sound bites on Mesa/Boogie.com
Message-ID: <199704112129.VAA02300@server.ibpinetsp.com.br>
Someone said that there're 2 RA's of JP playing the songs from a game on
Mesa/Boogie site. Yes, they're right there and they're so cool I wanted'em
to me! :)
But all I got was a petrucci*.ram that has a link to some place like
pnw://www.sonic.net/ampnerds/<file> ... I already checked the sonic.net
site and have no idea where the real RA is..
Anybody have them, or any idea to get it??
BTW, the JP's page (or DT page) at mesa's site is pretty cool, it has an
interview with JP telling which equipments he used to rec that stuff, some
rack diagrams etc.
Bye!
* Dan Souza *
soyza@ibpinetsp.com.br
"Watch out where the Huskies go, and don't you eat that Yellow Snow!"
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:05:52 PDT
From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2449
Message-ID: <199704120005.RAA24826@f18.hotmail.com>
>Too bad Thayil wrote the least, though. I've always enjoyed "Room A
>Thousand Years Wide" and "Never The Machine Forever" (9/8 sounds
>awesome).
You know, I've always counted that in 4/4 and 5/4......
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>
>flexibility of the pick. It's much less effective to play with a thin
>pick than with a heavy pick, because the material flops around too much.
> Since choosing
>one brand of pick, I think my playing has steadily improved, since I've
>eliminated a variable.
>
>Spend a whole $3 and get a bunch of different picks, and find out what
>matches your style.
I totaly agree with this. When I first started playing, I used whatever I could
find (once I actually used toothpicks for a week when I was too lazy to buy any
new ones). As I started to play more, I used medium picks. As my style became
more technical, I started using Jim Dunlop 1mm and Ibanez 1.2mm picks. Then one
day I tried a Stubby and have been hooked on them ever since. When I used full
size picks, I would sometimes cut them to a point, because to me this is more
efficient for fast picking than the round tips. The stubby just seems right for
the way I play. Unfortionately none of the stores around here carry them, so I
had to bulk order a case. I hope I don't get tired of them, 'cuz then I'd be
stuck wid 'em. :)
There's really no point to this, so I'll stop now.....
kevin hammer
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:42:31 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Ryche bashing
Message-ID: <199704120041.RAA01583@odin.ax.com>
> I don't think that there's a pick on the market that can improve
> your precision. Why? Because just as many sick pickers out there
> use full size regular picks as the special little ones that "improve
> XxX". I've seen DiMeola use Dunlop jazz III's, and I've seen him use
> Fender Extra Heavy picks. I've seen Gilbert and Yngwie only use
> full size regular shape picks. Ron Thal and MICHAEL.ANGELO. too.
> So I decided that the best thing to do was analyze the picks that
> feel best for me.
Silly me, I just found out the pick I wanted wasn't a Jazz III. :)
The one's I use are Jazz I's. Upes... Oh, well, I bought a couple
of Jazz III's anyway. Anyway, my favorite pick used to be a hugeass
Peavey 1 mil one that was triangular shaped and was about twice as
big (not thick) as a normal pick the size of the palm of my hand. I
drop picks alot and never dropped this baby. Too bad I left it at a
gig, never to see one since...
>Actually, fans were already disappointed by the commercially
>motivated Empire.
So they lost 1000 fans to gain 2,000,000. Where's the problem?
Somethings gotta pay the bills you know. :)
> On the subject, I might also mention that I think "Say Hello 2
> Heaven" is my favorite Cornell performance.
I must agree. :) I love Temple of the Dog. IMO, the best grunge
album ever to be produced.
> I noticed alot of jammers saying that either "Promised Land" or
> "Operation Mindcrime" was their favorite, but for some reason, "Rage
> for Order" always gets the shaft??? I'm just suprised, since it was
> easily their most progressive!!!...The incredible vocals on that
> album, blow any album they have ever done away!!!!!!!....
I must agree again. I think Rage for Order is their masterpiece.
The slight vampiric conception throughout the whole thing is rather
rad. I always thought the vagueness of the subject of the CD was
real kewl. You never really think of what it's about until you
actually pay attention to it. :) At least it was half of the album.
KorgX3 is wearing a fluffy, white tutu and lavender tights.
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:42:59 -0500
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: concept albums - iced earth
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970411234259.0073e620@mail.inlink.com>
Well, i spoke of the dark saga before, having not heard it. i finally got
my hands on it, so i figure i'll give some input:
first of all, the music is great. Musically, this is one of my fave iced
earth discs to come along, theres tons of cool beats and light guitars to be
followed up with crunch-o-plenty and some nice instrumental passages.
Lyrically it has its ups and downs. the story itself is great, tracks like
Violate have outstanding lyrics to fit, but the lyrics for "I died for you"
dont reach out to me as much, though they're very straight forward.
Vocally, well.. once again the vocals are what are taking me to get used to.
I think the vocalist is great when he screams, but when he tries to sing
he's putting no balls into it, and he falls too flat. when he's singing
with balls he sounds like a mix between geoff tate and chris cornell, when
he's trying to sing too melodically he sounds like a teenage crap trying to
write a love song with an acoustic guitar. reminds me of an old joke song i
wrote about that called "beer in my soup" even though its completely
irrelevant.
overall, i recommend the disc. its probably my second favorite iced earth
disc, behind burnt offerings, and if you like concept albums, you may like
it a bit more than the average listener. My only hope for the next record
of theirs is they put the groin back in the band, even when they play soft
stuff. =)
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 18:19:20 PDT
From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2449
Message-ID: <199704120119.SAA17601@f15.hotmail.com>
>Too bad Thayil wrote the least, though. I've always enjoyed "Room A
>Thousand Years Wide" and "Never The Machine Forever" (9/8 sounds
>awesome).
You know, I've always counted that in 4/4 and 5/4......
---------------------------------
>
>flexibility of the pick. It's much less effective to play with a thin
>pick than with a heavy pick, because the material flops around too much.
> Since choosing
>one brand of pick, I think my playing has steadily improved, since I've
>eliminated a variable.
>
>Spend a whole $3 and get a bunch of different picks, and find out what
>matches your style.
I totaly agree with this. When I first started playing, I used whatever I could
find (once I actually used toothpicks for a week when I was too lazy to buy any
new ones). As I started to play more, I used medium picks. As my style became
more technical, I started using Jim Dunlop 1mm and Ibanez 1.2mm picks. Then one
day I tried a Stubby and have been hooked on them ever since. When I used full
size picks, I would sometimes cut them to a point, because to me this is more
efficient for fast picking than the round tips. The stubby just seems right for
the way I play. Unfortionately none of the stores around here carry them, so I
had to bulk order a case. I hope I don't get tired of them, 'cuz then I'd be
stuck wid 'em. :)
There's really no point to this, so I'll stop now.....
kevin hammer
------------------------------------------------------
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit
"And I swear that I dont have a gun." Kurt Cobain
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Visit the world of Tufif 'de Siks
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:46:43 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: El Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yanni
Message-ID: <334EE983.EFD@caribe.net>
Thanx for the recomendation on the jam about Yanni,just bought Live at
the acropolis, and man this is awesome,beautiful,etc.. damnl.. :) itrs
great
--"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:39:41 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: miscellaneous debris Message-ID: <199704120243.VAA06915@Walden.MO.NET>
> ASSHOLE!@(&*^(^%%$#@ > > So the point here is that they have an 800... > > 1800297KSPI. > > Get the idea? The other two Oklahoma jammers don't get the station. Ooh, methinks I might have to call the station repeatedly. Man, one person to get a song stopped. Of course, at least that's more DT than I hear on the radio anymore. Ooh, they're (K-SHE 95 in St. Louis) giving away front row seats for Rush in St. Louis tonight (they go on sale tomorrow). > Anyway as a Christian myself, I was wondering if it was Mike C. who > is pissing you guys off or if it is Christianity? It really bugs me > when other Christians such as Mike give us a bad name by sounding ridiculous > and making us look like a joke by shoving our religion down your throats. > Christianity is very important to me, but I realize that the ytsejam > is not the place to try to start a mission. Agreed. At least I think most people here do have the maturity to realize that one person is not representative of an entire group. I don't really remember what all went on with Mike C., though, since I usually skip religious flame wars (since that really nasty one back in the arastar days). I really doubt that it's Christianity itself that is pissing anyone off here, just someone's attitude with it. Hypocritical (I'm not judging anyone here) "Christians" really do piss me off. That's been the hardest thing for me, doing away with the stereotype of a Christian being someone who just shoves stuff down people's throats, and the hypocrites that get a lot of attention.
The Silent Man:
> I'll put an answer there when I get a good one. I'm still hoping that > someone saved that post that Mike Bahr sent in comparing the song to 1001 > Arabian Nights. That was killer stuff, and I'd love to include it. > Any of you packrats hang on to this? Ooh, I don't remember this. I am intrigued :).
> I just got a cool cd called Niacin (which reminds me of the time I took to > much of the vitamin Niacin and my body turned red and I got all hot and > itchy (speaking of Itchy, come back, man!) but that's another story). > Anyhoo, it's Billy Sheehan on bass, John Novello on Hammond B3, and Dennis > Chambers on drums. I don't know who the second two guys are but they rock. > The cd is a good mix of jazz, blues, prog, rock and just outright jamming > by three talented guys. I found it at Tower on a listening station and it > was on sale. Ooh, Sheehan talked a lot about this at the clinic, and got me very interested. Anybody else hear this?
> You just can't take that kind of time with music you don't like at >first. there's too much other music that you do like to listen to. Ever since hearing Tourniquet (from their first album), I have always given bands a chance if they didn't gel right from the start. I hated Tourniquet when I first heard them, now, I TOTALLY dig them (ask Vince :). I used to hate Iron Maiden. They've now been one of my favourite bands for nearly 10 years. I have No Exit. Didn't like ti a lot at first, but it's growing some. I just got Paralells. I like it more. Ooh, and I just got 'Tage's HOR. I love it. Damn, sorry for the long post. RUSH TICKETS ON SALE TOMORROW (for St. Louis)!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:01:17 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: God Hides Rush and Ozzy Message-ID: <199704120304.WAA09690@Walden.MO.NET>
>Sometimes God Hides Hey, we have, like 2 or 3 copies of this in the store I work with. A regular (I work in a coffeeshop) gave a bunch out to some of our employees. Pretty cool stuff. Some wacky music on there, but I dig it. Ooh, June is gonna be one KILLER month, man. I just heard the other day that the Oz fest is coming to St. Louis, yes, TWO FREAKIN' DAYS AFTER RUSH! WOO HOO!!!!!!! June 10, Riverport Amphitheater (according to the radio). Man, Rush, Ozzy/Sabbath/whoever else that's playing there, all in the same week :). Wow.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 23:03:16 -0400 From: Tim <axe@mail1.nai.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FS: Dream Theater "No Sleep Since Brooklyn/ Instrumental 3" Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970411225318.006f54e4@pop1.nai.net>
Hello 'Jammers. I've got a couple of these CD's left and I'd like to sell them.. Here's the info.
DREAM THEATER - NO SLEEP SINCE BROOKLYN / INSTRUMENTAL 3 [ 1 CD ] "No Sleep Since Brooklyn" Part: Recorded Live at L'Amour 9-25-86 (chris collins on vocals) 1. Another Won 2. Cry for Freedom 3. The Gates of Babylon 4. Your Majesty 5. March of the Tyrant 6. Afterlife (alt. lyrics)
"Instrumental 3" Part: (demos and outtakes) 1. Two Far 2. The Saurus 3. Your Majesty 4. Viking Outro 5. 7 Mini Guitar Songs 6. A Swell Guitar Piece 7. Anti-Procrastination Song
I have a couple of these CD's here that I'd like to sell. If you want to get more info on this CD, you can go to my website at: http://nw3.nai.net/~axe/dt.htm
If you want info on getting one of these CD's...please email me at axe@ct1.nai.net
Thanks.. Tim axe@ct1.nai.net
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 23:31:52 -0500 (EST) From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Yanni Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970411233010.711358761A-100000@drew.edu>
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Carlos Alfaro wrote:
> Thanx for the recomendation on the jam about Yanni,just bought Live at > the acropolis, and man this is awesome,beautiful,etc.. damnl.. :) itrs > great
Yes, I recently bought that CD and it smokes! It has some nice instrumental breaks on some songs, but not really prog. Yanni has a great sound. Some of his songs ("keys to imagination" for example) sounds very "epic." Don't know if my point got across, but oh well...
Brandon
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