YTSEJAM Digest 2455
Today's Topics:
1) Precious Things
by John Dea <jrdea@novia.net>
2) Re: JP's gitarr klinik i G=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=f6teborg!!!!?=
by Jan Melander <jan.melander@got.wmdata.se>
3) Munich show is taped
by Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
4) No Doubt, Fates
by svjohnson@amoco.com
5) to quote earl woods........
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
6) NDC-NDTC
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
7) gee i'm sorry wally
by Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
8) No Doubt in my mind
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
9) 12 April italian DT show TAPED !!!!!! Let's start the trade!!
by amendo@tno.it
10) Tate and Halford (NDTC)
by "Glenn Pillsbury" <PILLSBUR@HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
11) Napalm Death
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
12) Tori and KM
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
13) Re: No Doubt, Fates
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
14) Re: Napalm Death
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
15) Jersey
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
16) BACKSTAGE PASS IN BRAZIL SHOW!!!
by "Andre Luiz Machado" <Orion@netyet.com.br>
17) DREAM THEATER IN BRAZIL!!! RIO DE JANEIRO???
by "Andre Luiz Machado" <Orion@netyet.com.br>
18) G3 in Switzerland (Rush/DT content? Not really...)
by MakTs <MakTs@compuserve.com>
19) Re: No Doubt in my mind
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
20) Re: Jersey
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
21) ND n' JLB
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
22) Re: JP sound files
by Symbolic66@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 97 07:10:35 -0500
From: John Dea <jrdea@novia.net>
To: "~YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Precious Things
Message-ID: <199704141211.HAA22264@oasis.novia.net>
Hey,
After many *long* months of waiting, Precious Things finally arrived
this weekend. Woo hoo! Another triumph for Senor Bahr! Seriously,
y'all, if it's not sold out yet, get your copy while you can. If it is
sold out, well, go try to buy someone else's copy of it. Yeah, right.
As if anyone will let go of this one... (-8
Still eagerly awaiting Virtual Songs and Experience to Extremes,
John
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John R Dea, 1st Lt, USAF : Email: jrdea@novia.net
Chief, SWPS Document Production : jdea@creighton.edu
System Development Team : john1v6@aol.com
US Strategic Command/J62511 : deaj@j63.stratcom.af.mil
: Web: http://www.novia.net/~jrdea
Planning for a Brighter Tomorrow : Nuke: 41^ 8' N, 96^ 6' W
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 97 14:31:21 +0200
From: Jan Melander <jan.melander@got.wmdata.se>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: JP's gitarr klinik i G=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=f6teborg!!!!?=
Message-ID: <9704141330.AA15601@goethe.got.wmdata.se>
AAARRRGGHHHHH.....
This message will be in Swedish, sorry for that to all of You =
non-swedish speaking members.
JP har en gitarr klinik h=E4r i g=F6teborg om en vecka och jag fick =
reda p=E5 detta f=F6rst ig=E5r!!!!
Biljetterna =E4r slut sedan mitten p=E5 f=F6rra veckan s=E5 mitt =
sista hopp =E4r att det finns n=E5gon p=E5 listan som har en biljett =
att undvara....
=C4r du den r=E4ddande personen kontakta mig p=E5: =
jan.melander@got.wmdata.se
S=E5 kan jag kanske fixa n=E5got interessant i utbyte... :-)
Hj=E4lp!!!!
=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D=
+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D
Jan Melander
WM-data
jan.melander@got.wmdata.se
=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D=
+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D
"Until the circle breaks and wisdom lies ahead,
The faithful live Awake, the rest remain misled"
Innocence Faded - Dream Theater
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:38:27 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Peter <mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Munich show is taped
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970414143737.1754A-100000@speed.eik.bme.hu>
Hey Hi,
Just came back from the Munich show... it was great but I was a little bit
disappointed that they played the same setlist as in the States. They
should've played more new songs IMHO.
It was a f***ing nightmare to smuggling in the video and tape recorders
because of the guards, but finally we did it! However I was not so brave
to use the camcorder too much, there was a lot of sec. guy watching... my
friend has seen a bootlegging guy nabbed by the security guards.
Anyway I can make tapes for the sound... and maybe I'll make AVI or something
like that from that few minutes of video. And we also did some pictures that
I will scan and put up somewhere. :)
I would like to trade earlier stuff, especially videos (from Awake tour,
I&W tour, clinic stuff and Myung, Portnoy instr. videos). And I'm looking
for Ryan Webb (I lost your e-mail but sent the money for Portnoy clinic
video about a month ago).
Cheers,
Peter
Ps.: was that green Adidas shirt on Petrucci a joke?? ;)
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 97 08:52:22 -0500
From: svjohnson@amoco.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: No Doubt, Fates
Message-ID: <199704141352.AA17021@interlock.amoco.com>
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No Doubt....
I've heard the disc....I've seen the videos....I hate this band.
Why? First of all I truly enjoy talent (that's why I listen to bands
like DT, Badlands, Toad the Wet Sprocket, etc.) I don't see a whole
lot in this band musically, and any they do have is wasted on
songs/chord progressions/solos that can be done in one's sleep. I
don't find the classical guitar solo in "Don't Speak" all that
interesting. Kinda Madonna-esque-"La Isla Bonita" cliche.
As much as whatsername professes that her songs are about her life, I
hear very little real emotion.......also....SHE CAN'T SING FOR SHIT!
"Don't Speak" has to have some of the ost off-pitch singing on radio
today. I hear that song endlessly at my gym re:house stereo...I
constantly cringe and think "you're flat! you're flat!"
No Doubt? No thanks!
On prog rock note: I love Ray alder's singing. Do I think he noodles
sometimes? Yes, but he's clear, powerful, emotive and can hold a
note. Discs I own are Parallels, IO, Perf. Sym...I like 'em all.
Should I get No Exit?
Steve
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:04:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: to quote earl woods........
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970414095929.13129B-100000@galaxian.rs.itd.umich.edu>
sometime during the Maters final round, they put the camera on Tiger
Woods' dad and he said something like "this is so unfair".........who
knows what he was talking about, but I could say the same about
> As the members have confessed, DT is aiming for the US market with the
> new album, so a double release in USA can be ruled out as it would mean
> commercial suicide. However, this is very much feasible in Europe and
> Japan where DT are well established.
Ain't you the lucky bastard, Dave...just happen to be living in Europe :)
Partha Mukhopadhyay
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:13:34 -0700
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDC-NDTC
Message-ID: <199704141413.HAA00185@ms.kallback.com>
However we got on this topic:
I really like No Doubt. (Of course, I'll be snooty and tell you I was into
them before they got big)
She does sing a little flat, but that's all part of her unique "love it or
hate it" voice.
She's also a very nice person. Or she was when I met her, fame can change
people, ya know
They put on a great, high energy show, and the only thing that sucks is that
you can't see em
in a small club now like I used to.
New DT please.
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:16:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: gee i'm sorry wally
Message-ID: <01IHOX9IZZG291VXUO@LTU.EDU>
Sorry I didn't put a smiley face at the end of my original request. No
ill tone was meant initially, but I was kinda peeved at the response.
-C#
:) + :( = :|
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 09:49:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: No Doubt in my mind
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970414094750.28851F-100000@enteract.com>
Whoa. Cool. The No Doubt Mailing List! Anyone know where I can sign up
for the Spice Girls mailing list? They really rock. "Tell me whatcha
want, whatcha really really want?"
MTV 4 Ever! Rock and Roll will NEV3R Live!
Chris Ptacek at EnterAct, L.L.C -- (773) 248 8511
http://www.enteract.com (business)
http://www.prognosis.com/madsman/ (personal site under construction)
"At nearly 500 feet per second muzzle velocity, a potato
would be lethal if it were to hit someone."
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:01:56 +0000
From: amendo@tno.it
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 12 April italian DT show TAPED !!!!!! Let's start the trade!!
Message-ID: <9704141507.AA09445@giasone.teseo.it>
Hello everybody..
I'm proud to announce you that i have succesfully recorded the ENTIRE
show of the last saturday in Milan. The quality is great.
Many people out there already wrote me for a trade..
You can write me again to arrange the expeditions!! I'm in holiday
now and I'll copme back home on friday, so, starting from next monday
I'll start sending the show worldwide :)
Write me, I'll write you back what my request.
Thank you and take care!!
Francesco
home page http://www.angelfire.com/sd/sundown
e-mail amendo@tno.it
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:38:53 PST
From: "Glenn Pillsbury" <PILLSBUR@HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tate and Halford (NDTC)
Message-ID: <8F6E422A0B@113hum2.humnet.ucla.edu>
Jammers-
I recently bought The Warning and, after listening to it and much 70s
Judas Priest, I've come to the conclusion that Geoff Tate and Rob
Halford are actually the same person, that the folks who wrote the
"Queensryche" album from 1984 are really some guys from Britain, and
that I like "both" of their work.
Glenn
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:54:11 -0400
From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Napalm Death
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970414115411.00b5eab0@pophost.fore.com>
>on mtv. john petrucci loves rage against the machine, mike portnoy digs
>public enemy, james labrie digs napalm death...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think LaBrie is the big Napalm Death
fan everyone thinks he is. He clearly stated that he was given the shirt,
and when they were told that they were being filmed for the Pull Me Under
video, it was the only clean shirt he had. I also think Barney was invited
to the Ronnie Scotts show because of this DT/ND nostalgia. Yes, there is
an interesting link between LaBrie and Napalm Death, due to that whole
shirt thing, but I think it all happened by accident, and the press and the
fans blew it up into a big thing. I really don't think he is much of a
fan. If anyone is a Napalm Death fan, I think its MikeP.
I think some of the older jammers might remember this thread coming up a
long time ago. Let me know if my info is correct, or all fucked up.
KAI
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:32:28 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tori and KM
Message-ID: <199704141732.KAA32502@nevis.u.arizona.edu>
Hey,
Anyone know the story behind Tori's problems with Kevin Moore and
"Song For Eric"? I've only got parts of the story, and a Tori fan and I are
kinda confused. Thanks for any information.
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
If you like that there rock 'n roll,
check out: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:48:39 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: No Doubt, Fates
Message-ID: <19970414.104901.8678.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
I find it interesting that someone says No Doubt sucks and
then uses Toad The Wet sprocket as an example of a good band.
Every band has a right to exist and if someone doesn't like them
I can live with that; but *Toad* ? Sheesh!
Scott
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I'm afraid of Americans; I'm afraid of the world.
I'm afraid I can't help it; I'm afraid I can't.
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> No Doubt....
>
> I've heard the disc....I've seen the videos....I hate this band.
>
> Why? First of all I truly enjoy talent (that's why I listen to
>bands like DT, Badlands, Toad the Wet Sprocket, etc.)
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:48:39 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Napalm Death
Message-ID: <19970414.104901.8678.3.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
Sounds like what I remember.
Scott
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I'm afraid of Americans; I'm afraid of the world.
I'm afraid I can't help it; I'm afraid I can't.
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On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
writes:
>>on mtv. john petrucci loves rage against the machine, mike portnoy
>digs
>>public enemy, james labrie digs napalm death...
>
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think LaBrie is the big Napalm
>Death
>fan everyone thinks he is. He clearly stated that he was given the
>shirt,
>and when they were told that they were being filmed for the Pull Me
>Under
>video, it was the only clean shirt he had. I also think Barney was
>invited
>to the Ronnie Scotts show because of this DT/ND nostalgia. Yes, there
>is
>an interesting link between LaBrie and Napalm Death, due to that whole
>shirt thing, but I think it all happened by accident, and the press
>and the
>fans blew it up into a big thing. I really don't think he is much of
>a
>fan. If anyone is a Napalm Death fan, I think its MikeP.
>
>I think some of the older jammers might remember this thread coming up
>a
>long time ago. Let me know if my info is correct, or all fucked up.
>
>KAI
>
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:51:53 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jersey
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970414105150.006bed48@cats.ucsc.edu>
Fucking, New Jersey? Is that like Flushing, New York? (I think it's in NY)
__ /\ __
__\/__\/__ ~Chris
\_||_/
/__||__\ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/
// \ | \\
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:02:35 -0300
From: "Andre Luiz Machado" <Orion@netyet.com.br>
To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: BACKSTAGE PASS IN BRAZIL SHOW!!!
Message-ID: <19970414181051440.AAC380@orion>
Hi everybody!!!
How can I obtain the pass to the backstage show in Brazil???
I NEED this pass... I'm a fanatic fan...
All my life is dedicated to Dream Theater...
I have all official material(CD's videos) + many bootlegs CD's and
videos...
I play guitar too and I have the transcriptions books and the instructional
video...
Anything of DT that appears in front of me... I BUY... Without any care...
This is the best band of the world and I need to obtain this backstage!!!
Or anything else, like an interview at hotel, show the city to them, a
lunch or dinner with them... Something of them...
I and some fanatics friends are making the first fan club here in Brazil of
DT...
Please... Somebody here knows some way to obtain this???
I NEED this a lot...
Please... HELP ME!!!
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André Junqueira
Nick: YtseOrion
E-mail: orion@netyet.com.br
E-mail2: aluiz@netyet.com.br
HP: http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/1550
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:52:26 -0300
From: "Andre Luiz Machado" <Orion@netyet.com.br>
To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DREAM THEATER IN BRAZIL!!! RIO DE JANEIRO???
Message-ID: <19970414181051440.AAB380@orion>
Dream Theater will come to Brazil on Monsters of rock... This year...
But, Rio de Janeiro NEED a Dream Theater show too!!!
Dream Theater has many fans here in Rio...
All my friends love Dream Theater!!!
Please, don't forget the Rio's gig!!!
I say this because last year only Iron Maiden, Skid Row and Motorhead came
to Rio, the others bands of the festival(Halloween, Manowar...) didn't
come... :-(
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André Junqueira
Nick: YtseOrion
E-mail: orion@netyet.com.br
E-mail2: aluiz@netyet.com.br
HP: http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/1550
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:16:11 -0400
From: MakTs <MakTs@compuserve.com>
To: National Midnight Star <rush@syrinx.umd.edu>, Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: G3 in Switzerland (Rush/DT content? Not really...)
Message-ID: <199704141415_MC2-1440-23D1@compuserve.com>
Hi there!
You know the deal: Still no Rush or DT in Switzerland. No complaining this
time!
At least some other good musicians seem to find their way to Zurich:
Yes, it's G3 with Satriani, Vai and ... without Eric Johnson :-( but with
Adrian Legg as Special Guest! Only ... who's that? Anyone knows?
And anyone else out there going to the show on Mai 28th in Zurich?
Thanks for reading (and hopefully answering)!
Mak
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:18:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: No Doubt in my mind
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970414141744.820D-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Chris Ptacek wrote:
> Whoa. Cool. The No Doubt Mailing List! Anyone know where I can sign up
> for the Spice Girls mailing list? They really rock. "Tell me whatcha
> want, whatcha really really want?"
Ewwwww. Madsman knows the words. :)
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:21:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Jersey
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970414141938.820E-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Chris Oates wrote:
> Fucking, New Jersey? Is that like Flushing, New York? (I think it's in NY)
Something like that. You see, the Damned Jets moved from Flushing, NY to
Fucking, NJ. (Of course, the Fucking Mets still play in Flushing.)
:)
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cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:31:35 -0500
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ND n' JLB
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970414203135.006d20ec@mail.inlink.com>
>
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think LaBrie is the big Napalm Death
>fan everyone thinks he is. He clearly stated that he was given the shirt,
>and when they were told that they were being filmed for the Pull Me Under
>video, it was the only clean shirt he had. I also think Barney was invited
>to the Ronnie Scotts show because of this DT/ND nostalgia.
this is the story i've heard as well, though i'm not entirely sure that its
true. i also have an old concert video from 92 in which james is wearing
the same shirt. kinda odd he has nothing to wear so often, isnt it? :)
either way could be true i'm sure, though i'm slightly led to believe he's a
fan.
~Rip
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:53:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Symbolic66@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: JP sound files
Message-ID: <970414164906_809211310@emout19.mail.aol.com>
im interested in the necronomicon files man! can you send em to
symbolic66@aol.com?
brian (symbolic)
http://www.geocites.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/5578/home.htm
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