YTSEJAM Digest 2465
Today's Topics:
1) Re: John Petrucci in Sweden!
by Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
2) Dokken? Spocks Beard!
by "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com>
3) Re: Metropolis 2??
by Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
4) My HTMl post... :)
by Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
5) MM-Bop
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
6) Angra / Brazilian imports
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
7) Looking for Fender Strat
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
8) Vermont complaining
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
9) FS: Ivanhoe, Yngwie, Death, Savatage... (NDTC)
by Daniel James Temmesfeld <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
10) WDATU
by Cygnus <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
11) Fwd: Saviour Machine
by GnRBrks@aol.com
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2464
by merlin@castlegate.net (Merlin)
13) tape trading
by Chip Alexander <tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com>
14) Re: Looking for Fender Strat
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
15) Re: QR PL Land Tour Boot
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
16) JP Clinics in Europe
by "Staffan Johansson" <johansson_s@hotmail.com>
17) Re: Mighty Endorphins Power Strangers
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
18) Re: Platinum facts and Vermont
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
19) North v. South...
by Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
20) Bob Bitchin'
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:39:56 +0200
From: Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: John Petrucci in Sweden!
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970416133956.005b5028@thn.htu.se>
Hi all
I've just ( too late, that is) noticed that JP is coming here to do some
clinics, so all tickets are sold out :-(
Even though Me and some friends plan to get down there and plea to get in.
What can We expect from such a thing?
I've never seen any clinics.Has he done more, on this european leg of the=
Fix?
Any new songs? Which ones??
How much does such a thing cost? Would be a wonderful thing to my
birthday-party. Guys, I'm worth that, ey!!! Should I perhaps start a Fund
to DT-addicts?
Eyy!!,, seriosly, please give me some inputs on what to expect.
Go private, if possible.
See ya
>Hello!
>I just read in a swedish newspaper that John Petrucci is going to play
>on the pub Dojan, which is in Gothenburg, on the 21 of April. It also
>says he plays in Stockholm the day after. I don't know where though.
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Henrik Gustafsson
H=F6gskolan Trollh=E4ttan/Uddevalla
+46 (0)520 - 47 50 49 /fax -99
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 07:14:41 -0500
From: "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dokken? Spocks Beard!
Message-ID: <199704161212.FAA01706@odin.ax.com>
Hey gang,
I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about or bought
the new Dokken that was supposed to come out yesterday I think. I quite
liked the last one and I hope the next one is as good. Any info posted is
appreciated.
Also, I wanted to say a quick blurb about SPOCK'S BEARD. I so
graciously received some of their stuff on tape from Walter (Thanks!) and
have been listening to it a lot. Spock's Beard is really very cool, with a
lot of long songs and unique sounds to it. This is some of the most original
sounding stuff I have heard in a while (without sounding lame), and is very
enjoyable to listen to. It is hard to actually describe their sound, because
it doesn't seem to settle down into any form, because it changes a lot from
song to song. I just wanted to give my recommendation that you give them a
listen, and you prolly won't be disappointed!
ELEGY: If there are any elegy fans here, I would appreciate any info
about what they are like, cuz I heard a few interesting things about them,
so that sparked my interest. Any info here also well appreciated. Thanks.
see ya folks,
Notorious R.O.B.
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:14:33 +0200
From: Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Metropolis 2??
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970416141433.005b5870@thn.htu.se>
At 21:19 1997-04-15 -0700, you wrote:
> i got John Petrucci in my closet =3D)
> =20
> ~Rip>>
>
>..Rip, you are soo cool, can I come and play with you two sometime?=20
>
OOohh, we shouldn't wanna coment on this. Ok, I come from Sweden , the land
"without" sexual prejudices, but this is TOO much.
No harm intended, cheers / henrik
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Henrik Gustafsson
H=F6gskolan Trollh=E4ttan/Uddevalla
+46 (0)520 - 47 50 49 /fax -99
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:11:27 +0200
From: Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
To: "No religion,just music and DT" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: My HTMl post... :)
Message-ID: <3354C1EF.1E03@uni-mb.si>
Sorry about my post that was in HTML...
I apologize :)
-- Sebastjan Videc aka StDeVil on IRC Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si<<- And from an Ivory tower hears her call Let the light surround you!!! ->> Kevin Moore
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 09:30 EDT From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MM-Bop Message-ID: <m0wHUmk-0000VPC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Ahhhh, I just happened to hear that song MMM-Bop yesterday and wanted to puke. What the hell is wrong with MTV? Like everyone else, though, I'll be waiting for Precious Things and my Queensryche boot "Operation: Promised Land" if I decide to order that one. But I already have PT and The Darkest Of Winters on wait (at close to number 250 though meaning I'll be waiting till June probably). Ah, well, worth the wait, hopefully.
Don
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 9:36:41 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Angra / Brazilian imports Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+gJBJnA@tcx.tcco.com>
I've got a co-worker who is coming back from Sao Paulo, Brazil in 3 weeks. I've asked him to grab as much ANGRA merchandise/CDs as possible, but I was wondering if there was any other Brazilian prog-metal that I should tell him to look for. I can't imagine that I'll have this opportunity again, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks - Chung in NYC
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 9:38:40 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Looking for Fender Strat Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+gLBJnA@tcx.tcco.com>
If anyone has an old Fender Strat laying around thats in decent condition, please let me know. I'm looking something "cheap" to experiment with.
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:42:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Vermont complaining Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970416094015.21474F-100000@bdmserver>
Merlo whined: >NYC area: Jughandles (oh, get over it :), the Jets, and that's about all I >can think of.
Um... You forgot the Yankees... :P
Actually Vermont is great for skiing in the winter... And in the summer it is very nice. It is wild to be able to see the stars at night.
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:02:54 -0400 From: Daniel James Temmesfeld <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FS: Ivanhoe, Yngwie, Death, Savatage... (NDTC) Message-ID: <s354a3e7.033@smtpgate.cedarville.edu>
(sorry to clog up the list...but...)
Prices include shipping. If you want 2 or more, make me an offer, and I can lower the prices.
Lanny Cordola Electric Warrior Acoustic Saint $8 Death Human $8 Iron Maiden Powerslave $8 Ivanhoe Symbols of Time $13 Yngwie Malmsteen Trilogy $8 Yngwie Malmsteen The YM Collection $9 Savatage Edge of Thorns $8
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm@erinet.com / s1133627@cedarville.edu "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm ---+ +---
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:35:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Cygnus <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WDATU Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970416092615.24748B-100000@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>
Just got WDATU (sorry, I'm behind), and I am glad I did. I now see the full potential of Afterlife and I love the song more. My friends got a big laugh out of hearing JLB say, "This one kicks serious butt!" I try to ignore them. It's a great disc, though. I like how MP breaks out into a major drum solo. Also, the band pauses for 15 seconds after which I hear a little tap on the drums before they break into the rest of the song. I love that part from March of the Tyrant (I've never heard the Majesty demos before :( ). Can anyone help me out in finding a copy of these? If that little bit from MotT is a premonition of all the demos, I NEED THEM (well, maybe not need, but would very much like to get).
***Rob*** rctaylor@uiuc.edu
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:18:35 -0400 (EDT) From: GnRBrks@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fwd: Saviour Machine Message-ID: <970416111731_906673617@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Dale, Please contact me with some info on Saviour Machine. I can't find their releases anywhere. Thanks in advance.
Glen <GnRBrks@aol.com>
--------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Saviour Machine Date: 97-04-16 00:12:47 EDT From: GnRBrks To: Dale.R.Newberry@walden.mo.net
Fellow Jammer, I was wondering where I could get some of Saviour Machine's releasesI have looked everywhere and can't find them. I am a big fan of Christian Metal and would like to check these guys out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Glen <GnRBrks@aol.com>
Still I long to search for more,but those days are gone now.ACOS
Thanks in advance.
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:47:24 -0400 From: merlin@castlegate.net (Merlin) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2464 Message-ID: <19970416164127700.AAA159@pat.castlegate.net>
please delete me from your mailing list
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:15:04 -0500 From: Chip Alexander <tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: tape trading Message-ID: <3354FB08.3163@ix.netcom.com>
Hi-
I'm a drummer living in the San Antonio area (TX) looking for people to trade tapes with. Any interested guitar/bass/keybd player(s) email me and work out an arrangement wherein you could either email me audio files or snailmail cassettes of your original licks. I'll then dub them to my 4-track and add drum tracks. Or, just let me know what you're interested in and I'll send you some bare drum tracks that you can add your parts to. I guess I just live in a musically retarded part of the country - I've had a fuck of a time finding decent musicians to jam with. I play a pretty heavy, progressive style - glad to send you a sample. Just so you know, I'm 25, and I've been playing for about 14 yrs. (in all honesty, I've only taken my playing seriously for the last 4 years) I'm not going to list my influences/favorite bands 'cause I don't want to alienate anyone - I assume that if you subscribe to this list, then we must have some common ground musically.
Anyway, as I said - email me if you're interested - I've got lots more to say but I don't want to waste everybody on the lists time.
Thanks-
*-----------------------* | chips@eden.com | |-----------------------| | tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com | *-----------------------*
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:17:35 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Looking for Fender Strat Message-ID: <199704161617.JAA52206@mustique.u.arizona.edu>
..why? Doorstop? Kindling?
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
If you like that there rock 'n roll, check out: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:31:54 -0500 (EST) From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: QR PL Land Tour Boot Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970416123038.711412966E-100000@drew.edu>
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Graham Boyle wrote:
> If you are lucky, you still might be able to buy a great QR boot from the > PL tour from KTS, it is a great quality boot that runs 124:04 over 2 CD's, > I take it that it is the full show ? > QUEENSRYCHE 'Saints and Sinners'
There's another QR boot of the same show called "state of art" which is better than the above mentioned CD because it has 3 acoustic tracks at the end of the CD (bridge, silent lucidity, and lady wore black).
Brandon
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:35:44 PDT From: "Staffan Johansson" <johansson_s@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: JP Clinics in Europe Message-ID: <199704161635.JAA27035@f18.hotmail.com>
I read something about JP clinics in Europe, and I wondered if anybody have the dates please send them to me! email: johansson_s@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 16:39:15 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mighty Endorphins Power Strangers Message-ID: <335500B3.7D31@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> From: Adam
> And what I'm saying is that this limited segment of a > self-defining community contains a number of people who feel as though we're > somehow blaspheming the word "progressive" if we apply it to Rush or Dream Theater.
Well, there ya go. Limited, indeed. Sounds more like a newsgroup naming errorif there's an undercurrent so biased against two particular groups :) Screw what they think. If I looked at the world like many a Mindcrime do :), I'd be missing out on a whole heck of a lot of music.
> I think the people I'm speaking of come from a progressive ROCK background > and AREN'T really willing to describe anything METAL as progressive.
That's their shortsitedness (sp?)... To me it's not whether a band is progressive or not, but whether the MUSIC is. One can take any genre and make music in it which is progressive (does that make sense?) It's hard to put into words, butKeith Emerson comes closest for me.
ACoS is a great example of progressive <multiple genres>. They take those measures that JP lays down in the intro and make them, uh, progress :) They add more instruments to the theme, and at the same time, turn the measures/rhythms inside-out and upside-down. Then they come back to the simpler form of the theme, slighty changed with different instruments, and make it progress again. I fucking love it! :)
What direction a band goes in with the genre they play makes just about no different to me as long as I can personally tolerate the sound in the first place. Heck, DT crosses the genre lines in the span of ONE song!
> But, in defense of Usenet, I can't see a reason why we should view the opinions > expressed here as having any more weight or validity. So there's that...
Totally agreed... I was a little toungue'in cheeck with the 'real world' comment...
I was on Usenet when the number of newsgroups could just about fit on ONE screen! Let's put it this way: I've heard it said that, as a culture, Usenet doesn't scale very well :) I've learned to take a lot of the shit on there for just what it is: shit. This is not to say there isn't some signal amongst the noise.
> What's Brand X? Progressive FUSION?!
Sure! Why not? Again, for me, Fusion would refer to the genre(s) while progressive would refer the structure of the song.
> What about Queensryche
Sensitive area... I think I'll leave that one alone :)
> But punk music is very anti-classic rock, traditionally, > where metal can be seen as having grown out of that tradition. What happens > when they run into each other? And what happens when it's fusion running > into death metal, like Cynic?
It's like when an irresitible force meets an immovable object, I guess ;)
Great reply/thread, by the way! -- *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
I believe that what I'm feeling Changes how the world appears - Rush
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:43:18 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Platinum facts and Vermont Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970416124246.4652A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 trevorw@ms.kallback.com wrote:
> The last two words on Vermont: > > BEN & JERRY'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, but where did they grow up? Long Island.
:)
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:44:54 -0700 From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: North v. South... Message-ID: <199704161644.AA24686@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hiya! Since never enough can be said on any single issue...:)
> Speaking of Fucking, NJ, has anyone ever found a self-serve gas >station there? What's the deal? Now, New Yorkers know the value of >that pumping-your-own-gas feeling! So what happened to you there across >the river? ;)
Actually, it's a stupid state law involving lowering insurance costs for gas station owners. It sucks cause you have to wait ten minutes for some guy who doesn't know English to pump your gas and "forget" to put the cap back on, then charge you $3 for a "new" one the next time you're there! I've since stopped going to that gas station.
> FIRST POST!! BOO-YAH!!
Yeah boyz! We's havin' a pajama jammy jam wit some kickin music dat be BUMPIN! :-) But seriously, nice to make the acquaintance of new jammers. Welcome fellas!
>Kinda like Goo Goo Dolls {SORRY, I like 'em :) }
The thought process behind selecting a name like this must be staggering. Now back to that New England vs. New Jersey thing. Methinks, Mr. Merlo, you avoid a few undeniable truths. Cons against NJ: the word "youse" as in "youse guys"; TKR Cable (you have to live here to know); Cherry Hill, home of the original rich bitches and spoiled brats; the Jersey Shore; the Giants, Jets, Devils, Nets; fans of the aforementioned teams. That's the short list. And sure, DT plays here, but for crying out loud they play at the BIRCH HILL! Oh, as for this D-Man:
> the Mets (tonight on ESPN! Yes!)
You are pure evil. Anyone who lives in New England and is not a Red Sox fan is devoid of a soul! Hey, Vermont's got Lake Champlain, the best skiing on the East Coast, Burlington, Carbur's, The Reggae Festival, and of course, my birthplace!
> Andrew "Asswipe Johnson" Forcier
Dear God, please don't let this catch on... I'm a product of my own stupidity...
> From: The Force!
Now this moniker I can get used to. Anyone else seem to think our dear friend Mr. Parmet is on the road to most frequent poster? I'm going for most lines per post, though Rip will likely beat me out...:-)
>If anyone here knows their shit when it comes to Floyd Rose setups
You have just subscribed to the single best resource on anything to do with guitars that I have found. Just don't ask about keyboards, I hear they're addictive. :-) Mr. Swifty, thanks for The Shining info. Glad I can count on you to compensate for my own laziness. And now, for my extensively detailed review of the new INXS album, Elegantly Wasted... Just kidding, you all can reset your pacemakers.
Andrew, Drew, Stodgers, The Force, and other assorted names... but never, ever Andy!
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:29:56 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bob Bitchin' Message-ID: <199704161729.KAA15117@main.cfmc.com>
>From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Adam Barnhart has good taste. >Message-ID: <199704152324.TAA24066@mcfeely.concentric.net> > >Adam Barnhart adds, > >>Five Gratuitous CD's: >>===================== >> >snip< >>5. Massive Attack: Blue Lines > >>Five Gratuitous CD's: >>===================== >> >snip< >>5. Jamiroquai: Traveling Without Moving > >I am thoroughly impressed. Two outstanding selections indeed. I'm glad to >know I'm not the only one who listens to this kind of stuff. > >My turn: > >Five Gratuitous CD's: >===================== >1. The Prodigy: Music for a Jilted Generation >2. The Future Sound of London: Accelerator >3. Meat Beat Manifesto: 99% >4. Delerium: Semantic Spaces >5. Dream Theater: Dream In Progress > >-Rick Audet
Wow! I'm in a message title! It's interesting that there's actually someone else out there who shares an appreciation for that side of my own musical aphasia. It's better than the heat I was getting when I mentioned liking Alanis Morrissette. I think, rather than having good taste, I have no taste. I seem to like most anything....
>From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> > >> Adam Barnhart adds, >> >> >Five Gratuitous CD's: >> >===================== >> > >snip< >> >5. Jamiroquai: Traveling Without Moving >> >> I am thoroughly impressed. Two outstanding selections indeed. I'm glad to >> know I'm not the only one who listens to this kind of stuff. > >Can anyone give me a brief synopsis of what these guys sound like? All >I've heard is "These guys are good." Private e-mail is fine, unless you >think the typical jammer would be into this stuff.
Well, I dunno. I've always been one of the people who fucks up the signal-to-noise ratio here, so I'll just mention a thing or two...
My initial attraction to Jamiroquai was Stuart Zender, who's a really strong bassist (he's profiled in the latest Bass Player magazine). The band grew out of the acid jazz scene in England, but has since mutated into some cross between jazz fusion and a classic R&B sound. Sort of a Weather Report/Brand New Heavies/Steve Wonder/Beatles-in-a-blender sound with a digiridoo. They've got three records, the most recent of which is being fairly widely distributed in the US at this point (the rest of the world got the record a little earlier). If I stop here, I'm probably being concise enough to not piss too many people off....
Five Gratutitous CD's: ====================== 1. Rush: Presto 2. Stanley Clarke: If This Bass Could Only Talk 3. Animal Logic: Rose Colored Glasses 4. Jamiroquai: Traveling Without Moving 5. Tori Amos: Hey Jupiter
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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