YTSEJAM Digest 2464
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Jersey, Fooking Jersey
by "Lauren Glenn" <L_Glenn@ix.netcom.com>
2) Re: Gold/Platinum record status
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2462
by buster@ee.net
4) FIRST POST!! BOO-YAH!!
by Zakk Jones <zakkj@luke.eint.com>
5) Re: Is it you or me? It's me, isn't it?
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
6) Miracles do happen!
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
7) gold & platinum recordings
by Timothy Templeton <ttempleton@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
8) Metropolis 2??
by Purplerx7@aol.com
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2463
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
10) more spew
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
11) Bizarre Freeways
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
12) Japan Platinum and curious facts
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
13) Re: Japan Platinum and curious facts
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
14) The guy with "Electric Ladyland 1974"?
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
15) PT
by Mike Stoner <mdstoner@pcocd2.intel.com>
16) Platinum facts and Vermont
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
17) QR PL Land Tour Boot
by "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
18) for sale ndtc
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
19) Sickening
by eckie@asu.edu
20) NFDTC:URL Submissions
by Yanos Aldron <yanos@netwiz.net>
21) IT IS KEVIN SHIRLEY
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:53:55 -0400
From: "Lauren Glenn" <L_Glenn@ix.netcom.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Jersey, Fooking Jersey
Message-ID: <199704160154.UAA03397@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com>
> Speaking of Fucking, NJ, has anyone ever found a self-serve gas
>station there? What's the deal? Now, New Yorkers know the value of
>that pumping-your-own-gas feeling! So what happened to you there across
>the river? ;)
>
I imagine that the day NJ gets self-serve is the day we have the cheapest
car insurance rates and have our posted speed limits go above 55mph --
(although, there are times on the Turnpike when you pass one of those
electric speed limit signs and the numbers are blank-- then there's really
*no* limit). :)
Lauren
====================================
Lauren Glenn's home page
at http://pw2.netcom.com/~l_glenn or
http://pw1.netcom.com/~l_glenn
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Featuring the newest version of RQ's CD Player 0.93
which can show lyrics as the CD is being played.
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:58:16 -0500 (EST)
From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Gold/Platinum record status
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970415215721.711450729A-100000@drew.edu>
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM wrote:
> What does it take for an album to go "gold" or "platinum"? I realize it is
I am probably very wrong, but I feel like responding:
Gold = 500,000 copies sold
Platinum = 1,000,000, copies sold.
Brandon
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:02:16 -0400
From: buster@ee.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2462
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970416020216.0069343c@ee.net>
<Pine.LNX.3.95.970415180406.1668B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
>
>Alrighty here's yet ANOTHER plug for the Web-Ring! We still need more
>sites in the ring!!!! It's almost totally effortless, fun, exciting, and
>it means more hits for your DT Webpage!!! Check us out at
>http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN/lift.html or by checking out one of the
>other WAY cool DT pages in the ring such as:
I have tried submitting both my url's to the web ring
and it keeps saying
Incomplete Site Submission
The site information you have specified is incomplete or invalid:
The URL appears to be invalid: Timed out connecting with
www.dhpc.com:80
or
The site information you have specified is incomplete or invalid:
The URL appears to be invalid: Timed out connecting with
users1.ee.net:80
welp, both of my sites are up and running just fine, so
maybe the WebRing engine needs a little fine tuning???
http://www.dhpc.com/wdadu
http://users1.ee.net/buster
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:33:59 -0700
From: Zakk Jones <zakkj@luke.eint.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FIRST POST!! BOO-YAH!!
Message-ID: <334D2487.462A@mail.eint.com>
Alright this is my first post, so I'll do the best I can to make it a
worthy one. On No Doubt, I'm not gonna shoot my mouth off and say they
suck, cuz they don't. I may not like them, but I don't think that
they're trendy and have no talent, it's just not the sort of music
I like. And on the Type O concert, I've been wanting to see TON for a
looong time ever since I heard October Rust (fave cd of 96, btw), and
hopefully, I'll get to check em out at Ozz-fest this summer, which is
set to kick some major ass.
Welp, that's all for now ladies and fellaz.
Take care, and get my homework done!!
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:44:53 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Is it you or me? It's me, isn't it?
Message-ID: <19970415.194515.8686.9.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:56:19 -0700 (PDT) CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
writes:
>Is anyone else in ack mode getting posts WAY out of order?
Yes; happens to me all the time.
Scott
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:46:57 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Miracles do happen!
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970415204653.006c84f0@cats.ucsc.edu>
Hey, I got my Ytse Fan Club official packet, including the Christmas CD!
And I signed up AFTER Christmas! Rejoice, all ye procrastinator jammers
like myself! There is hope for us!
Oh, and I'd clone Derek, so he can teach me all he knows about playing
keyboards. :)
Goodbye from Dusgustingly Hot Santa Cruz, CA, where you can't make left
turns on the freeway either. Some people on the bus talking about the
"great" weather. :P Give me hazy skies and the threat of a light drizzle.
I wanna live in London.
__ /\ __
__\/__\/__ ~Chris
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/__||__\ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/
// \ | \\
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:43:33 -0700
From: Timothy Templeton <ttempleton@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: gold & platinum recordings
Message-ID: <33543CD5.1CB8@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Here's the requirements from the Recording Industry Association of
America (RIAA) website. For more info point your browser to:
http://www.riaa.com/goldplat/goldplat.htm
GOLD AND PLATINUM AWARD CERTIFICATION
REQUIREMENTS
When certifying releases, the RIAA is careful to survey the entire
music marketplace and to calculate record sales wherever they occur. An
artist's gold or platinum award represents sales through retail, record
clubs, rack-jobbers, and all other ancillary markets in between, that are
available for an album's distribution. The RIAA tracks current hit
product and catalog product throughout the life of the release. Gold and
platinum awards provide a complete and comprehensive view of the
industry, which is so much more than just what is happening at the cash
register. Ultimately, the RIAA awards have remained the most
authoritative and recognizable bench-mark of success in the music
industry.
-- Tim Templeton ttempleton@worldnet.att.net RF Systems Engineer TDTCQTDT@aol.com Kent, WA KB0LDV------------------------------
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:06:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Purplerx7@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Metropolis 2?? Message-ID: <970415234901_1388264632@emout18.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-04-15 22:59:11 EDT, you write:
<< Toad is a great band. Stupid name, but a great band. >>
Kinda like Goo Goo Dolls {SORRY, I like 'em :) } ..Metropolis 2:I know that this song is being worked on now, but does anyone have completed lyrics for it yet? I thought I heard someone say that they did (it was probably those damn voices in my head again, sorry)
<<that's nothing, i got John Petrucci in my closet =) ~Rip>>
..Rip, you are soo cool, can I come and play with you two sometime? We'll jam and make him divulge all of the top secret DT info. He'll help us create boots of DT concerts, we'll have such a good time...
Well, that's it for now. C<C<Cya The Laminator
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:11:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2463 Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970416000048.166112D-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> > What does it take for an album to go "gold" or "platinum"? I realize it is > = > based on number of sales, but: > > 1. What are the specific numbers required?
500,000 copies= gold, 1,000,000= platinum.
> 2. Where do these numbers come from? How do they figure out how much an > album has sold?
These numbers are calculated by the Recording Industry Association Of America (RIAA). The second part of your question is way to complicated go into detail here. E-mail me privately if you want.
4. How do the categories of "platinum worldwide" vs. "platinum in the US" v= > s. > "platinum in Japan, eg" compare?
Well, "platinum world wide" just means that a million people in the entire world bought your album, as opposed to a million people in the US. So technically, if you can a huge album in Europe, for example, you could bill yourself as a "platinum band" or that you have a "platinum record" without necessarily having sold much in the US.
I know that DT's Awake went platinum in > Japan. If the number of sales required to accomplish this is the same as th= > e > number of sales required to accomplish worldwide platinum status, then > wouldn't that imply that Awake is platinum worldwide?
I have no idea what it takes to go platinum in Japan. I've always kind of wondered this. Any one?
Richie
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:31:19 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: more spew Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970415213117.0069da8c@cats.ucsc.edu>
On freeways: I'd have to say that the weirdest section of freeway I've ever driven on is just outside of Oakland, CA. Imagine this: The sign on the side of the road says 580 west and just under it 80 east. Imagine also that you are heading roughly NORTH at the time! Of course, on the other side all three conditions are reversed.
:)
__ /\ __ __\/__\/__ ~Chris \_||_/ /__||__\ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ // \ | \\ \|
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:31:28 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bizarre Freeways Message-ID: <19970415.223234.8686.11.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> writes: >On freeways: I'd have to say that the weirdest section of freeway >I've ever driven on is just outside of Oakland, CA.
Try the Freeway system in Minneapolis. On 35W there are junctions where you can catch a freeway going one direction but not the other. I lived there in the late 80's and have been there several times over the last ten years and I always get lost.
Even thought the interchanges suck, Minneapolis still kicks ass!
Scott
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:31:27 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Japan Platinum and curious facts Message-ID: <19970415.223234.8686.10.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:19:35 -0700 (PDT) "Richard A. Rivera"
> I have no idea what it takes to go platinum in Japan. I've always >kind of wondered this. Any one?
I asked this question on the jam myself a couple months ago and was told either 200,000 or 250,000. I can't remember exactly.
I read an article in Entertainment Weekly where they talked about album sales. I didn't know this, but if you release a multiple CD set then it multiplies total sales by RIAA standards.
Example: A double cd only needs to sell 250,000 USA copies to go gold. So when you hear that a disc goes gold or platinum, it may not mean exactly what it seems.
Scott
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:48:05 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Japan Platinum and curious facts Message-ID: <199704160547.WAA29059@odin.ax.com>
> Example: A double cd only needs to sell 250,000 USA copies to > go gold. So when you hear that a disc goes gold or platinum, it > may not mean exactly what it seems.
So it makes you wonder what the little mini-Eve disc in the Japanese Awakes counts as. Mebbe it was a ploy by the band to get quicker confirmation of record sells? heheh...
(Pointing at the red Eiffel Tower... It's a ploy, a hoax, they make you want to believe it's really the Eiffel tower, etc. etc... ) "Idle hands are the Devil's advocate. Keep busy thine hands and forbid the Devil into thy lustful desires!" --Bishop Maynard on the subject of self arrousal. "KorgX3" ibanez@cyberhighway.net http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:58:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The guy with "Electric Ladyland 1974"? Message-ID: <199704160558.BAA18263@mcfeely.concentric.net>
Hey,
I forgot who it was that posted it, but I recall someone a few days ago saying that his friend sold him the Rush bootleg "Live from the Electric Ladyland Studios 1974" for $5. Well, if you've decided you don't want it anymore, and you'd like to make back SEVERAL TIMES what you paid for it, please email me. Name your price. :)
(almost right justified, without a Power PC.)
-Rick Audet
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:32:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Stoner <mdstoner@pcocd2.intel.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: PT Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.93.970415220937.49254B-100000@frc998>
This CD kicks ass. Mike Bahr has rewarded us for our patience (my checkbook says Sept. 9th!). The sound quality is about the same as Acoustic Dreams, which is about as good as you can expect from a bootleg. Some songs are chopped at the beginning or end, but I don't care, we accept that on PMU, don't we?
6:00 - not as good the version on AD, keys are missing during the chorus section - I didn't realize how important they were in that part.
Cover's medley - rocks!!! A book-end to the medley on ACOS. I never thought of IF as a sing-along type song, but that's exactly what James tries to do in the chorus. Derek is mixed pretty high in the outro - I like it.
RTK - I hadn't heard this one before so it'll take some more time to sink in I guess.
ACOS - Incredible sound quality. Near perfect rendition of the studio ACOS, but I'll never like it as much as the Subcon version. My fav part is always gonna be the transition at 10:16.
LWY - Johnny P in blues mode. Kinda reminds me of Gary Hoey's 'Fade to Blue'. Every note counts, except for maybe a couple at 3:25.
LtL demo - Not as different as CiaW or Oliver's Twist, but still real interesting to hear how the song evolved. The part at 8:02 is incredibly jazzy, what the hell were they thinking??
BTW, my copy is #59.
-Mike
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:51:43 -0700 From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Platinum facts and Vermont Message-ID: <199704160651.XAA00163@ms.kallback.com>
>I read an article in Entertainment Weekly where they talked about >album sales. I didn't know this, but if you release a multiple CD set >then it multiplies total sales by RIAA standards. ---------- They also said this only applies if the 2cd is 120 minutes long. So since Prince's last was a 3cd @ 180 minutes, it only sold 666,666 copies and it's double platinum.
The last two words on Vermont:
BEN & JERRY'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 16:04:37 +1000 From: "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: QR PL Land Tour Boot Message-ID: <199704162155.4787600@no1.com.au>
If you are lucky, you still might be able to buy a great QR boot from the PL tour from KTS, it is a great quality boot that runs 124:04 over 2 CD's, I take it that it is the full show ? QUEENSRYCHE 'Saints and Sinners' Disc One Disc Two 9:28 AM Eyes Of A Stranger I AM I Empire Damaged Jet City Woman Bridge Promised Land Screaming In Digital/NM 156 Disconnected My Global Mind Lady Jane Neue Regel Out Of Mind I Remember Now One More Time Anachy X Silent Lucidity Revolution Calling Take Hold Of The Flame Operation Mindcrime Someone Else ? Spreading The Disease The Mission I Don't Believe In Love My Empty Room
Graham
Graham Boyle Sydney, Australia graham@no1.com.au
'No one ever dreams and lives'
Bell In The Sea M a r i l l i o n
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:58:54 -0700 From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: for sale ndtc Message-ID: <199704160858.BAA00068@ms.kallback.com>
Amorphis-Elegy $8
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 02:25:00 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Sickening Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970416021255.19269C-100000@general1.asu.edu>
Ugh...MTV proves it again,
there is no integrity in the music business. You really don't have to learn shit about music to make it big. Actually, all you really need is a Casio and a camcorder, and you're set to go to the eMpTyV music awards.
What I'm ranting over is this new "buzz clip" (when did this "buzz" shit start? I hate it!) of a trio of children singing (this is the title of the song,) "MMMBop!" My room mate and I are sitting in the lounge watching this video, and thinking in unison, . o O ( If MTV showed Dream Theater as much as this shit, they'd be SOOOO fucking big!) It's enough to go into this corporate music industry with a semi-automatic rifle (thanks to you die-hard right wing Republicans for making it possible for me to still buy 'em! >;) ) and force 'em to listen to REAL MUSIC.
I just...
..I just want to take a lamp shade, AND SHOVE IT UP one of their asses, and listen to Dream Theater, at a medium pace....
John Myung: Me too.
I can't wait to get my guitar slingin' hands on that PT boot. I was listening to my COS ep while drawin' my homework (fine arts major) and thought to myself..."hmm...I NEED NEW DT!!!"
TTFN, while I go and listen to DT's UAGM on I&W, then PMU, ACOS again, AD, AFTRLF, MTRPLIS, and AMBI.
Fuck, that's even more work juss tryin' to get the right abbreviations...
>:P
~Eckie
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 02:56:43 -0700 From: Yanos Aldron <yanos@netwiz.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NFDTC:URL Submissions Message-ID: <3354A25B.BA7A92CC@netwiz.net>
Great first day folks...thanks to all who submitted URLs to me both metal pages and personal addresses. Continue to send me this info as I will begin to sift through it this weekend. I will annouce my URL when the work is done (actually, it will never be done as updates will always be necessary) and hopefully you can all make sense of it!
Cheers-
Yanos
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 11:15:23 GMT From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: IT IS KEVIN SHIRLEY Message-ID: <M.041697.131524.04@wxs7-10.worldaccess.nl>
I am sure, it's Kevin Shirley. Mike P. said he has done "Nine Lives" recently. So Kevin Shirley is the new album's producer. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers cronos@worldaccess.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM "ST NEWS" ST/TT/Falcon disk magazine; "Ultimate Virus Killer" Gwar FUQ II & GEMulator FAQ maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Q: What do you do when a musician comes to your door? | | A: Pay him for the pizza. | \--------------------------------------------------------------/
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