YTSEJAM Digest 2466
Today's Topics:
1) Metropolis II
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
2) State Of Art/Saints And Sinners/Operation:Promised Land
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
3) Re: North v. South
by Quazel Schmirt <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
4) A big old favor
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
5) The Mirror
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2460
by Michael Lafser <mlafser@mail.win.org>
7) Could it be more true???
by "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2465
by Michael Lafser <mlafser@mail.win.org>
9) Re: State Of Art/Saints And Sinners/Operation:Promised Land
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
10) syl and metrop 2 time
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2465
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2465
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
13) questions
by WildKoba@aol.com
14) oops
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
15) Which Way Did He Go?
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
16) Metallica OOP CD for sale (NDTC)
by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
17) Korg Trinity, irresistible forces
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
18) State of the Art vs Saint & Sinners
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
19) Freeways?
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
20) ...to write right justified (NDTC)
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:52:06 -0500 (CDT)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Metropolis II
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970416124727.27199A-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>
>..Metropolis 2:I know that this song is being worked on now, but does
>anyone have completed lyrics for it yet? I thought I heard someone say
>that they did (it was probably those damn voices in my head again,
>sorry)=20
No one has the completed lyrics to Metropolis II. This *includes* Dream
Theater. The reason that the song isn't listed as one of the ones for the
new album (and it says this quite clearly on the homepage) is that they
are only including songs that they have demoed, and Metropolis has the
music finished, but not the lyrics. Mike told D-man that it was 30
minutes. Derek told me that it was 25 minutes. Either way, it's *long*!
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
| Pat Griffin Reality=B2 Design |
| c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 97 13:54 EDT
From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: State Of Art/Saints And Sinners/Operation:Promised Land
Message-ID: <m0wHYuR-0006UuC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Can anyone help me find a place to get one of these? I know that Saints And
Sinners is available at KTS but this is the only one I want from them and
there is a minimum order of 5. State Of Art is one I'm dying for but haven't
found anywhere. Operation: Promised Land is available through UMDO but I
haven't got a response from them yet and its only a single CD (not to
mention I don't have a track listing for this one). HELP!!!!!
Don Compton
PS. Anyone out there I traded with, if you want to team up with me and can
only find 4 CDs you want from KTS, I'm willing to get the QR one but only if
I traded with you before.
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:57:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Quazel Schmirt <jmlentch@mailbox.syr.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: North v. South
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970416135422.19389A-100000@gamera.syr.edu>
> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:44:54 -0700
> From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Cherry Hill, home of the original rich bitches and spoiled brats; the
Looks like I have been found out!! Oh well. Besides, most of these rich
bitches buy things from my parents and feed me so be nice please.
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:57:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
To: Dream theater Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: A big old favor
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.970416135133.27688B-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Hi. It's damon. I've been reading the reviews of Mike Bahr's stuff, and
me, being the poor bastard I am, have only Subconscious on tape. I don't
mind, I like it, it's nice to have. I also have one of the Instrumental
CDs on tape as well, it starts off with Afterlife, It hink. My question
to you, my fellow ytsejammers, is can anybody possibly make tape copies
of Mike Bahr's DT and Rush stuff? Maybe some of the other DT instrumental
CDs and whatnot? I don't necessarily want the CDs, just to hear these
things. I'll settle for tapes. Email me personally.
Also, to anybody who's done a trade with me and is wondering what
happened to my end of the bargain, namely the guy who copied the Ivanhoe
tapes for me, and Gohost@aol.com, Chad, finneus Gauge's manager, if he is
still on the list, I have been so damn busy, I promise to get the tapes I
owe you to you. I feel really bad, I don't want to be known as a bad
trader or anything, butthis semester has been so busy, and I've been sick
a lot and ... well, you know the deal. ANybody who knows me well enough
from IRC should be able to tell you that I am honest, I don't like to
screw people, since I've been given the shit end many a time. So bear
with me a little longer.
Next, due to the disgusting amount of mail I get each day, with the
hundreds of mailing lists I am on, I am wondering if there's any way of
streamlining the mail I get. I find that I don't read much news on
ytsejam, but I really don't want to unsubscribe. I did that with other
band mailing lists and now, don't even know what's going on with them. Is
voices or metropolis still up? Digest form, maybe? Does
alt.music.dream-theater provide any information? I mean 200 plus messages
a day is too much for any human being. What do you all think? Thanks in
advance.
Damon Fibraio
Reach me at damon@shell.monmouth.com
keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality
professional dumb-ass
"you can feel the waves coming on
Let them destroy you or carry you on.
You're fighting the weight of the world and no one can save you this time
Close your eyes, you'll find all you need in your mind."--Dream Theater,
Take the Time
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:06:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The Mirror
Message-ID: <199704161806.OAA13291@newman.concentric.net>
Hiya,
I recall reading about the original version of "The Mirror" as being about
10 minutes long, before it was tagged along with "Lie", and that it appeared
on some sort of demo/promo item (that Neil Elliot got a copy of?). I'm
surprised this version hasn't turned up on a bootleg somewhere. Anybody ever
heard this version before?
-Rick Audet
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:05:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: Michael Lafser <mlafser@mail.win.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2460
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970416130438.18920A-100000@winc0>
cant you take a joke either?
threads dont even come close to being as stupid as the spice girls
and i dont have a dog so have fun looking for him
me
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:15:48 -0500
From: "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Could it be more true???
Message-ID: <199704161813.LAA05269@odin.ax.com>
>Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take
> to change a light bulb?
>
>A: 1,331:
> 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail
> list that the light bulb has been changed
> 14 to share similar experiences of changing light
> bulbs and how the light bulb could have been
> changed differently.
> 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
> 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about
> changing light bulbs.
> 53 to flame the spell checkers
> 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about
> the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness
> to this mail list.
> 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
> 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and
> to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb
> 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar,
> alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing
> light bulbs be stopped.
> 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we
> are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts
> **are** relevant to this mail list.
> 306 to debate which method of changing light
> bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs,
> what brand of light bulbs work best for this
> technique, and what brands are faulty.
> 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of
> different light bulbs
> 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and
> to post corrected URLs.
> 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that
> are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs
> relevant to this list.
> 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote
> them including all headers and footers, and then
> add "Me Too."
> 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing
> because they cannot handle the light bulb
> controversey.
> 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."
> 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
> 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
> 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion
> was meant for, leave it here.
> 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.
>
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:16:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: Michael Lafser <mlafser@mail.win.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2465
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970416131225.18920B-100000@winc0>
mtv sucks!
just a reminder to everyone (including "chris ptacek")
except for that last statement, 80% of what i say is meant to
be bullshit and taken sarcastically
everyone go listen to STRAPPING YOUNG LAD
and i never said anything about anyone not being able to talk about
whatever they want
but i know that my opinion is valued as much as everyone elses (yeah right!)
but with that in mind
remember
ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES JACK A DULL BOY
i forgot what the purpose of this message is
maybe it didnt have one to begin with
me
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:25:20 -0500 (EST)
From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: State Of Art/Saints And Sinners/Operation:Promised Land
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970416142228.711446824A-100000@drew.edu>
> Can anyone help me find a place to get one of these? I know that Saints And
> Sinners is available at KTS but this is the only one I want from them and
> there is a minimum order of 5. State Of Art is one I'm dying for but haven't
> found anywhere. Operation: Promised Land is available through UMDO but I
> haven't got a response from them yet and its only a single CD (not to
> mention I don't have a track listing for this one). HELP!!!!!
Well,I got my "state of art" from the CD Cellar <cdcellar@dnaco.net>. But
I would highly recommend that you NOT order from this place. After
getting the QR boot, from him, I ordered a Rush boot and it took about
eight months for him to finally say that he didn;'t have any in stock and
that he would send me something else. SO I ordered some videos from him.
My mom told me last week that the tapes came. So I'm urging you and every
other jammer to saty away from thus guy. I hope he goes out of busniess.
Brandon
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:29:31 -0500
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: syl and metrop 2 time
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970416182931.0075b5bc@mail.inlink.com>
>
>everyone go listen to STRAPPING YOUNG LAD
YES!~! these guys RRRRROOOCK. its primarily devin townsend, steve vai's
front man for sex and religion. he simply goes apeshit. i believe the
latest release is called "city," i've heard a bit of it so far, and it kills
me. the other album released was "heavy as a heavy thing" the name being
difinitive of the music.
>Mike told D-man that it was 30 minutes. Derek told me that it was 25
minutes. >Either way, it's *long*!
i think at one drum clinic, on a more accurate note, mike stated the
material ran about 27 minutes to the bone. so depending which way you like
to round, 30 or 25, it kind of meets half way.
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:35:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2465
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970416143128.4902B-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Michael Lafser wrote:
> mtv sucks!
How do *you* know? Did it at least buy you di... oh, sorry, wrong post.
> just a reminder to everyone (including "chris ptacek")
hahahahaha
> except for that last statement, 80% of what i say is meant to
> be bullshit and taken sarcastically
> everyone go listen to STRAPPING YOUNG LAD
Boy, I'm glad to see those three lines together. I was beginning to worry
about this guy. :)
> i forgot what the purpose of this message is
> maybe it didnt have one to begin with
I was going to say something here, but then I realized that I don't really
have to. Michael, welcome to the list. (And use a smiley every now and
then, so we know you're as unwell as the rest of us. :)
And I was just about to post that light bulb joke, too. :)
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:39:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2465
Message-ID: <01IHRYZ9CV2A9FM8HK@alma.edu>
>be bullshit and taken sarcastically
>everyone go listen to STRAPPING YOUNG LAD
>and i never said anything about anyone not being able to talk about
>whatever they want
>but i know that my opinion is valued as much as everyone elses (yeah right!)
>but with that in mind
>remember
What is this, a fucking Haiku?
You talk too fast
Stream of Conciousness is hard to read
this reminds me of the literary techniques I studied in 7th grade
Punctuation is good
-Clark
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:44:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: questions
Message-ID: <970416144413_775712620@emout04.mail.aol.com>
hey, regarding this ozzfest tour, if anyone knows anything about tour dates
(i believe someone mentioned tix go on sale saturday in the boston area), ANY
tour dates, please let me know. you can email me privately if you like- i
don't care, b/c i'm sure someone else would like to know too.
speaking of spice girls and no doubt, two bands i sorta like myself, there
was a disturbing rumor i hear recently that involved gwen stefani's (no doubt
girl) stomach getting pumped for ingesting an excess of semen. nasty, eh?
whatever. peace out, bitches.
ytsegoon
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david yoichi kobayashi
binghamton university
bd91014@binghamton.edu
"i am a dream...a day rushes by but i do not. if i am cut i can be stitched.
if i am gray i can be brightened. if i am broken i can be mended. if i am
dull i can be sharpened. i am resilient." -the anatomy of man
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:47:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: oops
Message-ID: <01IHRZCFR3FM9FM8HK@alma.edu>
I forgot the smiley on that last post about the Haiku. Not a flame. :o)
-Clark
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:50:59 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Which Way Did He Go?
Message-ID: <199704161850.LAA18357@main.cfmc.com>
>From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
>
>On freeways: I'd have to say that the weirdest section of freeway I've
>ever driven on is just outside of Oakland, CA. Imagine this: The sign on
>the side of the road says 580 west and just under it 80 east. Imagine also
>that you are heading roughly NORTH at the time! Of course, on the other
>side all three conditions are reversed.
I make that drive daily. It's my commute. And Lord, is it confusing....I
mean, I know where I'm going NOW, but it wasn't until I moved here that I
had any idea what the hell was going on. In a span of something like three
miles, I'm on four different freeways. Urban planning....
But that ain't actually the worst street sign I've seen around here. In San
Francisco, on one of the east-west streets (don't rememer which one),
there's a big ol' sign saying "3 Left Lanes to Bridge." Now, you're driving
just about AT the Bay Bridge (the one connecting SF to Oakland) and what the
sign is actually trying to tell you is that is you're in one of the three
left lanes, you'll be put on a road that, if you take it all the way back
across town (the opposite direction to the one you're currently going),
something like 5 miles or so, you'll get to the Golden Gate bridge (which
connects SF to Marin County to the north). First time I ever drove around
in San Francisco, I saw that sign. No wonder no one has a car around here.
Oh...sorry. I'll try to salvage the message. Has anyone actually seen the
new John Myung video? The review of it sounded like it wouldn't be a bad
investment, but I was kinda curious if anyone had any feedback on it. I'm
not really in a frame of mind to get instructional videos at this point, but
I was wondering exactly how good it is.
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Rush: Moving Pictures
2. Jamiroquai: Traveling Without Moving
3. Metallica: Ride the Lightning
4. Berlioz: Symphony Fantastique
5. Yellowjackets: Politics
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:09:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metallica OOP CD for sale (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199704161909.PAA129618@pilot04.cl.msu.edu>
Here's one for all of you Metallica fans out there. I have in my
possession a copy of the $9.98 CD : Garage Days Re-revisited that I am
willing to part with. It is long out of print and has pretty decent resale
value as a collector's item. It's in great condition and since I picked it
up for $20, I'd be willing to sell it for slightly more. Anyone who is
interested, drop me an email. If I get more than one or two replies, I'll
make it auction style and let you know what the high bid is.
Andrew
-- garinger@pilot.msu.edu Zeta Beta Tau-Beta Epsilon Chapter"Outside the soundness of your mind" "I don't believe what I'm thinking" Bathing your soul in silver tears I'm less than useful Beneath a blackened summer sky I could take it from someone else Praying for time to disappear" But even I think it's truthful" ---Dream Theater "Under a Glass Moon" ---Ned's Atomic Dustbin "Less Than Useful"
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:27:12 -0400 From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Korg Trinity, irresistible forces Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970416152712.006938e0@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
A local store is having a spring cleaning sale and they're an authorized Korg dealer, so I thought I'd go check out the Trinity and find out what all the fuss is about...
Sheesh. This thing can make even me, with my limited knowledge of keyboards and keyboard playing, sound good. *drooooool*
Now trying to resist blowing half my current credit limit on it....*snicker*
Jon P. wrote:
>It's like when an irresitible force meets an immovable object, I guess >;)
Hey, a roommate and I finally solved the age old dilemma 'bout what happens in such a case. You get an irresistible force-sized hole in the immovable object.
:)
Cheers, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." -- Berthold Auerbach "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:27:16 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: State of the Art vs Saint & Sinners Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970416122713.006c9d14@cats.ucsc.edu>
State of the Art is not the complete show. I didn't check out the tracklist for S & S very closely, so it might also be cut short. I'm sure that the one I have (State ...) is from the radio broadcast, since the exclusions are mixed throughout (commercial time, probably)
It's still a fun show, and I was there! :)
Hey, can someone email me privately with the details on the ozz-fest? i.e. which bands are playing (again, I saw it once) dates if you have them, etc? Thanks. My roomie and I want to see Type O and Drain again. Speaking of drain, what a collection of 3 beautiful, talented women and a guitarist, eh? Well, the guitarist has talent, too. :)
__ /\ __ __\/__\/__ ~Chris \_||_/ /__||__\ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ // \ | \\ \|
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:40:25 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Freeways? Message-ID: <199704161940.MAA20490@goodguy.goodnet.com>
You big-city people with freeways ain't got nothing to complain about! Some days traffic gets so bad in Gilbert, you can't walk across the trail without stepping in that there horse pucky. And the smell in the summertime... hoooo-wee!! Glad the Saloon finally bought a ceiling fan! As soon as the electricity gets wired up, I'm goin over there to have some Sarsparilla in the coooool breeze. :) Now if y'all will excuse me, I gotta go kill a gila monster for dinner.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:55:37 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: ...to write right justified (NDTC) Message-ID: <01BC4AAF.81B6BBE0@Tuvok.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Jim Beavens asked :
> Just a quick, stupid question: How in the hell do some people get > ASCII email messages completely right justified without adding any > extra spaces? I see this every once in a while, and whenever I do, > I can't help but pour over each line & look for that extra spacing > that logic tells me MUST be there.
:-)
Just pick the right words :-) I've been writing a lot of right justified messages lately, for several reasons. First of all, it takes a bit longer to write an email, because you've got to pick the right words to make all the sentences the same width. You'll actually have some time to think before you post ! Maybe some of you should consider trying it too :-) A lotta messages on this list look like they were written within a matter of seconds. And usually the contents reflects that. Also, a lot of posts contain bad grammar and spelling errors. That's ok if English isn't your first language, of course (I'm Dutch, btw).
When you try to use correct spelling and grammar and try to make your post look half decent, that immediately changes the way the content of your message comes across, provided you don't use any profanities :-) Some might even forgive you for posting such a boring off topic post like the one you're reading right now :-)
The point I'm trying to make is, re-read your message before you post it to the Ytsejam. Try to convince people that you actually put some thought into it first :-) You also might wanna try to see your post from the reader's point of view. If you think your message will unnecessarily piss people off, just don't post it !
See Jim, no extra spacing anywhere in my message ! It's actually kinda fun, writing messages like this. Wouldn't it be cool if we all posted this way for a while ? (Ok, maybe not)
Mark, who can now die a happy man after seeing DT, last monday ! ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ Would someone please let me know how we _ _____ ___ _ _ __ __ have spun out of control ? |:||_.:._|/:._]|:]_[:|\.\_/./ Has the captain let go of the wheel ? |:| |:| (.:(_ |:___:| \_::/ (Queensryche - Sign of the Times) |_| [_] \___]|_] [_| [__/ _________________________________________________________________________ Dream Theater online "Under A Cyber Moon" http://www.prognosis.com/dream/
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