YTSEJAM Digest 2480
Today's Topics:
1) Re: o|----->
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
2) pics of MP's current kit
by Lobotomy1@aol.com
3) Kevin Moore stuff...
by jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2479
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
5) question on Rush/FW videos
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
6) Metallica regressing? (NDTC)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
7) o+>
by Gelfing <Madi@tsrcom.com>
8) Re: Rush tickets
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
9) Re: question on Rush/FW videos
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
10) KTS order is here!
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
11) New Dt Material
by Christopher Bellardine <chris154@clam.rutgers.edu>
12) FW cd single
by Jan van Huizen <aurora@wirehub.nl>
13) More DT in Amsterdam
by "Marco Bakker" <marco.bakker@tip.nl>
14) Re: Tribute???
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
15) Re: Progressive tribute chickens
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
16) Reprise contest ABSOLUTELY NO DTC
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
17) re: Tribute
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
18) Defiance
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
19) Still looking to trade 2 Rush tickets for Toronto show
by Jonathan Lau <jonlau@interlog.com>
20) Happy Birthday Mike Portnoy !!!
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
21) coupla details
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
22) DT gig in Bonn !
by Martin Wawro <wayne@msq.ruhr.de>
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 01:06:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: o|----->
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970420010327.381A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Sat, 19 Apr 1997, KorgX3 wrote:
> Mike's bald isn't he? I thought we covered this... Don't tell me
> I've been snookered, or mebbe he just grew it out fast. I coulda
> swore a week or so ago someone said they were shaving him bald...
Mike Portnoy's as bald as Kojak, or my name ain't Chris Ptacek.
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 01:37:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lobotomy1@aol.com
To: YtseJam@ax.com
Subject: pics of MP's current kit
Message-ID: <970420013709_-1032624840@emout19.mail.aol.com>
I may have missed it (haven't read the Jams in a while..been busy), but does
anyone have, or know where I can find a current picture of Mike's drum kit? I
have old pictures, but I know it has changed severely since the I&W tour..any
image format will do...it doesn't matter..I'm just really interested in what
his setup looks like now-a-days. Thanx..
Innocence Caressing Me..
Chris in NJ.
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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 22:49:09 -0700
From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kevin Moore stuff...
Message-ID: <v02130500af7f5e7eed3a@[128.32.100.59]>
I was wondering, how should I go about finding Kevin Moore material. I
have already heard the Chromakey stuff, but I was wondering how to find
some of the other stuff like music meant to be heard and such.
-Shane
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I jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu I day that I try. I was told there's a I
I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I new love that's born for each one I
I CAA Tweeker & Ytsejammer I that has died... Love is the Dance of I
I Member of A.M.M.O. since 1997 I Eternity."Metropolis" - Dream Theater I
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:03:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2479
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970420015826.117146A-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Sat, 19 Apr 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> As one who studies the liners of my CDs, I have seen a lot of
> John Kalodner: John Kalodner. What does that mean? Who is this guy? I
> fogure that someone in Ytse land knows.
>
He's a really powerful A&R guy (I think he used to work for Geffen and
now for Sony). If you want to know what he looks like, take a look at the
Aerosmith video for "Dude Looks Like A Lady." He's the bearded bride. He
was also in one of Jackyl's videos.
Richie
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 02:13:05 -0500 (EST)
From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: question on Rush/FW videos
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970420020924.711490382A-100000@drew.edu>
Hey guys!
I got 3 boots in the mail today. One of which is the Rush "critical mass"
video. This absolutely kicks ass! It is very clear and very well done. It
was a breath of fresh air from the amateur bootleg videos I'm normally
used to.
I also got a Rush pro-shot from the Presto tour From Detriot. It's a
decnt video, but the quality is just ok. My question: what is the date of
this concert?
AND...
I also got a Fates Warnig nvideo that took place in Pittsburgh, PA. on
the "inside out" tour. There is no date listed on this one either. Does
anyone know it? Thanks.
Brandon
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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:36:59 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metallica regressing? (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199704200636.XAA69114@nevis.u.arizona.edu>
Hey, I heard a rumor that... apparently in Hit Parader Magazine,
March 97, there's an interview w/ Lars Ulrich where he is quoted as saying
the new Metallica CD will sound like a cross of "Metallica" and "Master of
Puppets".
Hmmm, what can I say other than HOLY SHIT!!! That would be awesome.
Well, I just hope it's true. If anyone has anything to back up this rumor
(such as the actual article) please let me know. Thanks.
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 01:52:23 -0500
From: Gelfing <Madi@tsrcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: o+>
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970420015645.2b7f411c@tsrcom.com>
I must put in my two cents....Prince or 0+> as he prefers it, is definitely
a musical genius. Purple Rain still brings a tear to my eye and I can
honestly say that there's not a single piece of his music that I don't like.
And his wardrobe is awesome! Anyone with a purple harley is A.G. by me. I
think I'm gonna go listen to his greatest hits album now.
Mari
"I believe that one day everyone, everywhere will know the wonders of my
nipples."
-Stimpy
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 03:16:27 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Rush tickets
Message-ID: <19970420.001706.8678.8.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Sat, 19 Apr 1997 20:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Scott Daugherty
<srdaugz2@homer.louisville.edu> writes:
>Wrong. The lady's got me punched up into the computer before
>tickets even go on sale. Something pops up on the screen and she goes
>"wow!" Sections 100, 200, and 300 were ALREADY SOLD OUT. What the
>fat is up with that? Did the freakin' radio stations get 'em or what?
Sounds like there's some serious scalping going on there. Radio only gets
a limited amount of tickets, and most of those are shit seats. From what
I
can tell, most radio stations get one pair of front row tix to give away.
I'm not
saying that's always true, just an observation. So what's more likely
going
on is that scalpers are well connected through ticketbastard and are
getting
all the good seats.
If I were you I'd write a letter of complaint and send it to the band's
management
and your State's att'y General's office and there could be an
investigation.
Contrary to what some might think, bands so care. If you want email me
privately and I'll tell you what Prince did to stop scalping of tix here
in San Jose.
Scott
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 00:13:44 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: question on Rush/FW videos
Message-ID: <199704200713.AAA99864@nevis.u.arizona.edu>
At 11:25 PM 4/19/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I also got a Rush pro-shot from the Presto tour From Detriot. It's a
>decnt video, but the quality is just ok. My question: what is the date of
>this concert?
Auburn Hills? 3-22-94. Yeah it kinda sux :(
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 03:26:35 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KTS order is here!
Message-ID: <19970420.002728.8678.9.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
Hi again :-)
There have been a few people on the jam asking about if KTS is legit
I wanted to let you know that my package arrived! I don't have it because
I was at the Prince concert when the Mailman came (or maybe he was
just breathing heavy, heeheehee...) so I wasn't here to sign for it, but
it's
waiting for me at the post office.
So if you thought about buying discs from them do it quick, they're no
mas
apres April 30.
Scott
ps. Prince night #1 kicked serious ass! 2 1/2 hours of pure ecstacy!
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 97 4:29:24 EDT
From: Christopher Bellardine <chris154@clam.rutgers.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Dt Material
Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.5.861524964.chris154@clam.rutgers.edu>
Does anyone have any preview copies of the new Dt material even it's only a
couple of songs. I dying to hear it, and from what I've been reading someone
must have taped something. If someone could give me feedback I'd gladly
negotiate. Thanks
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:26:52 +0200
From: Jan van Huizen <aurora@wirehub.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FW cd single
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970420092652.00679da4@mail.wirehub.nl>
Hi everyone,
I was browsing through the Knights of the Round website, where I found a
Fates Warning cd single called Pale Fire. Does anyone have this and can tell
me what other songs are on this single ?
Thanks,
--Aurora--
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 14:12:41 +0200
From: "Marco Bakker" <marco.bakker@tip.nl>
To: "Prog Music Fans (DT)" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: More DT in Amsterdam
Message-ID: <m0wIvVg-003OhyC@parijs.tip.nl>
Dear Jammers,
Having read all the e-mails about DT in Amsterdam (mostly agreeing with
them: YES, they were great, I even liked Enchant), still a couple of
things to add.
I was going to DT with a couple of other guys, and the meeting point was
the Hard-Rock cafe.
They showed the live video of DT, and played Awake (yes, COMPLETELY!). It
was a nice start.
Enchant was nice, DT was great! PLaying such complex songs, with that much
ease.
James' voice was much better than with the Awake show.
One minor pitfall: Take Away My Pain; written by Petrucci, after loosing
his father (I almost feel bad, complaining about a song with such a high
Emotional Impact. But the song really had a too high Kelly Family feel
(except for the solo, and the way it was played, etc., but you get my
point.)
Am I the only one who didn't like this song? Maybe I should hear it more
often, a so called 'grower'?
BTW, Lines in the Sand and Peruvian Skies were great; can't wait till the
next album
Marco Bakker
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 09:20:53 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Tribute???
Message-ID: <335A1835.1A02@caribe.net>
Scott Cook wrote:
> When I was on irc there was a guy on there who was in a band called
> Metropolis which was a DT tribute band. I would argue the same thing.
> A band with only three full length albums out doesn't seem like it would
> qualify for a tribute band. But if their wasn't a market for it then
> there
> wouldn't be a tribute band in the first place.
>
> Scott
Ive been told that here in PR, theres a rush/dt tribute band called
Dreamline <-- i think this is a rush song right?..anyways ive never
found this band anywere...but ive been told it exists by 3 different
people..
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur.
The risk to survival is severe."
Ian Malcolm
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 09:25:46 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Progressive tribute chickens
Message-ID: <335A195A.7EC7@caribe.net>
Phil Carter wrote:
> Here's a couple I thought of:
>
> DT chicken: Steps out into the road;
> QR chicken:
thats cool.. hehe.. ..but the other ones was more about their lyrical or
musical content.. thats kinda hard to do.. the qr raw squawk cracked me
up thou
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur.
The risk to survival is severe."
Ian Malcolm
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 09:45:56 -0700
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Reprise contest ABSOLUTELY NO DTC
Message-ID: <335A4844.2C13@dreamt.org>
OK, I hate to bring this to the jam, I really do, but I have nowhere
else to bring it. If anyone wants to help me out, Reprise is having a
contest where you can win the new Faith No More album before it is
released in June. You have to answer some pretty obscure questions. I
need one more. The question is:
Only one Reprise artists did an animated video
this year. What city do they live in?
If anyone can prove the answer to this question to me, I will gladly
give them the answers to all of the other questions. The answer can be
found on the band's homepage at http://www.repriserec.com/
HELP ME!!!! Once again, sorry for the lack of DTC. I will post DTC in my
next post.
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 09:52:12 -0400
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Tribute
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970420095209.006856f0@ici.net>
>When I was on irc there was a guy on there who was in a band called
>Metropolis which was a DT tribute band. I would argue the same thing.
>A band with only three full length albums out doesn't seem like it would
>qualify for a tribute band. But if their wasn't a market for it then
>there wouldn't be a tribute band in the first place.
Oh, I'm fairly confident that this Alanis cover band probably sold out the
club, and does fairly well, simply because there is a market for that right
now. But as a viable direction for a band to go in, I don't know. I would
suspect within the next year or so they're going to have to seriously
reconsider their musical "direction". :)
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator
NP: Deliverance - "If You Will"
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 10:52:10 -0700
From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Defiance
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970420175210.0066fcb8@pop.pipeline.com>
Someone wanted to know about Defiance. I have two of their
cds, which were released on Roadracer/RC records. I have "beyond
recognition" and "void terra firma." I bought them out of the
cut-out bins for about a dollar or two each...in my opinion
the band sounds a lot like Testament. The latest one came out in
1992, so I wouldn't count on them being around anymore...the
stuff is pretty thrashy, and like I said, very reminiscent of
heavier Testament. Any other specific questions can be posed
either in this forum or via e-mail...
GO WINGS!
Kevin
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:21:43 -0400
From: Jonathan Lau <jonlau@interlog.com>
To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu
Cc: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Still looking to trade 2 Rush tickets for Toronto show
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970420152143.0066e33c@mail.interlog.com>
I have 2 tickets for the June 30th Toronto Rush concert
that I'd like to trade for the July 2nd date.
My tickets are:
Section 401, Row L, Seats 26 and 27.
Looking for similar seats on the July 2nd date.
Email if interested in a trade. I've already got another pair
of tix. I just want to see Rush twice!
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 17:22:01 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Happy Birthday Mike Portnoy !!!
Message-ID: <01BC4DAF.611F7B80@Wesley.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:24:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: coupla details
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970420111826.7571A-100000@moonpatrol.rs.itd.umich.edu>
a) happy birthday mike portnoy
b) image might be evrything after all.....there's this note on espn
sportszone that agassi married brooke shields.........
c) That set-list for The darkest of Winters......holy freakin' shiite!
I'm drooling.......scarred.....BAD! .....A VISION! omigosh....
is "dream and day" an instrumental OaMoT? becuz that would make
it even way better, seeing as how OaMoT is my current fave DT song.....
lets just say that sucker's gonna be my most anticipated arrival
of the year.......(right after i get done getting fates' on tuesday.....)
partha
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 10:40:31 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Martin Wawro <wayne@msq.ruhr.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT gig in Bonn !
Message-ID: <XFMail.970420104149.wayne@msq.ruhr.de>
Okay folks, this is my first posting on the jam, after just hanging around
here for a few years:
I was at the gig in Bonn yesterday and it totally kicked ass. They opened
with ACOS and played for almost two and a half hours. Everybody in the
band was really kicking, LaBrie hit every fucking note perfectly =20
(unbelievable good). There were some really cool things about the gig.
Mike appeared when the opener "Enchant" was going to play the last song
and he sat on the drums, then they played "Would" (I think) by
Alice in chains together. When DT played after the break, the singer
and the drummer of "Enchant" appeared when DT was playing CIAW and were
"helping" a bit with the drums and background vocals. Since it was
Mike's birthday the audience sang "Happy Birthday" for him and James
gave him a birthday cake with a Majesty-symbol on top, then they played one=
=20
song in a "quite different" setting, featuring Derek on guitar, Mike on
bass, JP on drums and JM on keyboard (they called it "Nightmare Cinema").
The song they played was "Perfect Strangers" from Deep Purple. All I can
say is that I can't wait to the next tour, this one kicked some serious but=
t.
ttyl,
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If I started from the top and worked my way down
There would be no reason to live forever. (dt)
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Martin Wawro | wayne@msq.ruhr.de
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