YTSEJAM Digest 2485
Today's Topics:
1) 60 or 80?
by Loren Caler <llc@sure.net>
2) Re: THE COUNTDOWN IS NEARLY OVER!
by Mika Numminen <aarre.n@swipnet.se>
3) RE: Symphony X/Divine Wings of Tragedy- almost NDTC
by Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
4) 74 minutes
by Chip Alexander <tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com>
5) 60 vs. 3 CD set.
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2484
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
7) mike ps birthday
by Symbolic66@aol.com
8) what's the point of filling out a subject line on the jam...doh!
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
9) A Work In Progress/ Progressive Drumming Concepts
by Glover <glover@dns.thewebcorp.com>
10) petrucci clinic & new album
by imajica@algonet.se (Niklas Thorpenberg)
11) please cancel my subscription!
by "Mehmet Zeki Ataman" <mzataman@eos.ncsu.edu>
12) Re: Error Condition Re: Posting rejected
by aeroguil <aeroguil@ibm.net>
13) Re: please cancel my subscription!
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
14) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2484
by Robert Gryphon <gryphon@micromuse.com>
15) solution to problems with unsubscribing information access
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
16) Re: what's the point of filling out a subject line on the jam...doh!
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
17) Chickens and such..
by Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
18) DT in the Mosters of ROCK - BRAZIL!
by Thiago Zaninotti <zaninott@uol.com.br>
19) Latest Fates dates from Pollstar
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
20) Steve Morse/ Rudess-Morgenstein Dates
by Michael Pomerleau <michael_pomerleau@snet.net>
21) Recording
by Jason L Luscher <luscher@student.umass.edu>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 10:57:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Loren Caler <llc@sure.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 60 or 80?
Message-ID: <199704211757.KAA16824@sure.net>
Well maybe we need to petition again to get the new DT CD filled to
the brim :).
I fucking hope that the crappy music stores in S. Calif. here will
be selling the new Fates CD!!! If not I'm going to have to hit someone up
for it .....
I-Van
P.S. I'm jealous of all you assholes who saw DT in Europe!! I've NEVER
seen them live! :P
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:25:09
From: Mika Numminen <aarre.n@swipnet.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: THE COUNTDOWN IS NEARLY OVER!
Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19970421202509.36df9d5a@bamse.swip.net>
At 04.17 1997-04-21 -0700, The Doc wrote:
>Time left till 4/22 - the release of Fates Warning's A Pleasant Shade of
Grey:
>
[snip,snip]
>It says 1 Day for all those of you who receive this all crunched up...
>
>..as Dr. Mosh starts chanting... "Fates, Fates, Fates, Fates..."
>
/me listening to the official release of APSoG and thinking it really was
worth the wait!!
"Fates, Fates, Fates, Fates..."
:)
- Mika Numminen - aarre.n@swipnet.se - http://www.hgs.se/~te95mne -
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 13:26:44 -0500
From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
To: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
Cc: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: Symphony X/Divine Wings of Tragedy- almost NDTC
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/001F5E3F@msb01ncadctmsge.ameridata.com>
Rick/fellow Y'Jammers. I actually neglected to look at the packing slip
closely enough. Yes it was only $20.99 + $3.00 shipping (I just looked to
see if they'd RAISED the price, & didn't think twice about a LOWER price.)
The $30.99 price is for the Japanese import.
The following note was at the very bottom of the picking slip: "Please note
that we shipped you the German version of Symphony X instead of the Jap
(sic.) Version. The album is EXACTLY the same only it originates from
Germany and is $10 cheaper. Thus, your total cost is $23.99 vs $33.99. We
hope this is satisfactory to you."
Most excellent on $$ as far as I'm concerned. Maybe this is the time for
many of you to think about getting Symphony X's DWT, while they have the
German version in stock at Knights of the Round.
Now after a few listens, I must say that DWT is most excellent from start
to finish. Michael Romeo's guitar work smokes throughout. The vocalist
reminds me a lot of Dio at times (range & timbre). Some of the guitar licks
are very reminiscent of a more metal Brian May, as some of the vocal
harmonies are also Queen-like. (Not that the album is Dio-like or
Queen-like in toto.) Some of the riffs are also quite DT-, Superior- or
Angra-like.
And now on the use of the Gustav Holst Mars riff at the beginning of DWT
(the epic piece on the CD). Yes I still think it's there; It's quite
distinct. And the 'tage song that uses the same riff is 'Prelude to
Madness' on HMK.
-Randall
email: Randall.Braun@gecits.ge.com
**"I'm looking California and feeling Minnesota" from "Outshined" by
Soundgarden**
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Audet [SMTP:ytse@cris.com]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 1997 4:49 PM
To: Randall Braun
Subject: Re: Symphony X/Divine Wings of Tragedy-NDTC
At 12:12 PM 4/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
>I just received my copy of SX's DWT from Knights of the Round. Although it
>took 3-4 weeks, it did get here, unlike Dream Disc, where I cancelled my
>order. Price was good, $24, including shipping.
>
Hi Randall,
I caught this post or yours today. I ordered DWT from KotR about two weeks
ago and it was priced at $30.99. I haven't gotten it yet because they were
quick to inform me that they just sold the last copy they had and are
expecting more soon. But I'm puzzled about the price you paid. Are you
SURE
the disc itself was only $19? (they charge $5 postage on all orders).
Because if you did, that's quite a bargain on that disc.
-Rick
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 13:51:43 -0500
From: Chip Alexander <tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 74 minutes
Message-ID: <335BB718.15A4@ix.netcom.com>
Just wanted to put in my vote for 74 minutes on the new album.
-Chip
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:52:49 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 60 vs. 3 CD set.
Message-ID: <199704211952.MAA02212@gms.gmsnet.com>
I'll put my vote in for the 3 CD set... 2 discs of new stuff from DT and
1 disc of live FIX stuff.... :)
On another side note... one of the COOLEST stores in So. Cal, Bionic
Records in Cypress, California... had the new Fates Warning on sale last
Friday!!!!! (bastards didn't tell me and they are friends of mine...) and
they're COMPLETELY SOLD OUT OF IT!!! Go FATES!!!!
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% *$%&%#$* Global Micro Solutions #$#$#@@# *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ #$@#$#@# http://www.gmsnet.com/progmetal @#$@##@$------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 15:55:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2484 Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970421154831.50744B-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> Got this from some mailing list that I somehow got on: > The mailing list is the text of the show, Beyond 11 which is a weekly Hard > Music broadcast from Southern Ontario's, 97.7.
Hey, I was put on that one too. How the hell did that happen?
> > I almost feel bad, complaining about a song with such a high > > Emotional Impact. But the song really had a too high Kelly > > Family feel (except for the solo, and the way it was played, > > etc., but you get my point.)
"Take Away My Pain" is bar none the best of the new stuff I heard at the Fix shows, IHMO. I can't wait to hear the studio version. This one is going to rank right up there w/ LSOAD and Surrrounded for me, which is very high praise indeed. The one song that didn't blow me away is "Peruvian Skies." Not that it's bad, and yes it's cool to see MP and JP singing harmonies, but I didn't think it was as amazing as the other stuff. I know a lot of people on the list like it, so I don't mean to piss a lot of people off, but that's just my opinion.
Richie
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:16:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Symbolic66@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: mike ps birthday Message-ID: <970421161625_1253924338@emout04.mail.aol.com>
is mike ps birthday april 21st?!? thats my birthday...so im wondering about all these happy bday mike msgs...
brian (symbolic) http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palms/5578/home.htm
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:49:43 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: what's the point of filling out a subject line on the jam...doh! Message-ID: <01IHZ2XOC5F6007AHL@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
I was just going through my backlog of jams and I want to know: how many of you are relieved when you see that "End of Ytsejam xxxx" on your screen?
Now this isn't a complaint so don't freak out. But I find more often than not, it's a chore to get through these things. Just wondering if that's just me.
Joshua
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:51:59 -0500 From: Glover <glover@dns.thewebcorp.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A Work In Progress/ Progressive Drumming Concepts Message-ID: <335BE180.7322@dns.thewebcorp.com>
I was wondering if anybody has the Neil Peart or Mike Portnoy drum instructional videos. If so, email me. I would like to setup some kind of trade for a copy. Also, I am interested in the "A Show Of Hands" video.
-C. Glover
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 13:54:03 -0700 (PDT) From: imajica@algonet.se (Niklas Thorpenberg) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: petrucci clinic & new album Message-ID: <199704212054.NAA16673@odin.ax.com>
Hey, everyone! Just home from dr. Petrucci's guitar clinic in Gothenburg (April 21st). It was great, of course. And if anyone wanted to go but didn't have a ticket, well you should have gone anyway, because you didn't need a ticket. All you had to do was pay 25 SEK (about $ 3,5) at the entrance and they let you in. It lasted about two hours and he played some new songs (Burning my soul, Lines in the sand, Hollow years, the two SEGA-songs and Purple Rain (Prince) among others), and showed us some cool tricks (none of which I could ever learn). He also said that there will NOT be a double album, but that the songs that wouldn't make it on the album would be used for some other...erm...stuff. The album will be about 60 minutes long and is due out in September. Oh, and he managed to fry one of the stage-speakers. Way to go! After the clinic he made his way to the bar where he signed stuff (I got my ACOS-cover signed). Unfortunately, I got sort of tounge-tied when I approached so all I could muster was "could you sign this" and then "thanks". Silly me! Or as Jesper Binzer of D.A.D. so eloquently put it: "I'm too old to be shy, but i wonder what to say, after I said hi." Had my thoughts been with me, I would have liked to mention that I was on the Ytsejam (he was wearing an ytsejam t-shirt) and that I was at the show in Tilburg on the 15th. Not that would have made any real difference. But it would have felt good to let him know that there are some real devoted fans who are willing to travel and whatnot to see them. Today I didn't have to though, coz I live 5 minutes away (by bike).
Try it -- it's good for you: new music you can't live without:
MOIST - "Silver" & "Creature" Freak Kitchen - "Appetizer" & "Spanking hour"
oOo If a man could pass through Paradise in a dream, and have a flower presented to him as a pledge that his soul had really been there, and if he found that flower in his hand when he awoke - Aye, and what then? oOo Niklas
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:01:59 -0400 From: "Mehmet Zeki Ataman" <mzataman@eos.ncsu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: please cancel my subscription! Message-ID: <9704211701.ZM22700@eos.ncsu.edu>
Please cacel my subscription
E-mail= MZATAMAN@eos.ncsu.edu
Thank YOU
-- Mehmet Zeki Ataman
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:23:25 -0400 From: aeroguil <aeroguil@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Posting rejected Message-ID: <335BDACD.557D@ibm.net>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote: > > Your posting to list YTSEJAM was rejected. > Reason: message size limit exceeded (maximum allowed: 10000 bytes) > The first few lines of your message are included herein for reference: > > ytsejam@ax.com wrote: > > > > YTSEJAM Digest 2476 > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1) Superior Majesty > > by Purplerx7@aol.com > > 2) A DT fan's take on No Doubt...NDTC > > by michael.bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley) Cancel
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:41:52 -0500 (EST) From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: please cancel my subscription! Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970421173945.711551191E-100000@drew.edu>
On Mon, 21 Apr 1997, Mehmet Zeki Ataman wrote:
> Please cacel my subscription
Doesn't anybody know how to subscribe. These have been popping up on the jam about twice a week now.
To unsub:
Put "asdf" in the subject. Then in the body type "unsubscribe ytsejam <your name>" Email this message to <ytsejam-request@ax.com>. Not too hard folks.
Brandon
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 10:09:45 -0700 From: Robert Gryphon <gryphon@micromuse.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2484 Message-ID: <01BC4E63.CE32DD20@sf-pm8-11-171.dialup.slip.net>
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:39:38 -0500 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: solution to problems with unsubscribing information access Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970421223938.0083b818@mail.inlink.com>
maybe down there at the ****End of ytsejam whatever digest**** there should be unsubscribing info. i generally dont think its necessary for every post though as some lists are because the people smart enough to get into ack mode should be smart enough to unsubscribe :) but it may be a help to close the digest with it. whaddaya say skadz?
~Rip
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:27:31 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: what's the point of filling out a subject line on the jam...doh! Message-ID: <19970421.152655.3582.3.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
>I was just going through my backlog of jams and I want to know: how >many of you are relieved when you see that "End of Ytsejam xxxx" on your
>screen?
I don't know because I haven't seen a digest in a month since I'm in ACK mode :-)
Scott
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 16:14:54 -0700 From: Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Chickens and such.. Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970421161449.0069e888@onfire.net>
>This chicken's trying to cross an 8-lane highway. So he starts running >along the side of the road, in the same direction as traffic, and >eventually there's an opening and he flaps his wings and hops across the >first lane. He makes it past the next three in the same way, almost being >killed each time. Then he's in the middle, and he discovers that for the >next four lanes, traffic is moving in the opposite direction. But he >doesn't want to go that way, so he just runs the way he was going down the >middle of the road, hoping an opportunity will present itself. He does >this for quite some time, but the cars keep coming and they won't slow >down for him. So finally he says "the hell with this," flaps his wings, >and takes to the sky. Traffic be damned, he's a bird.
I cant think of any bands, but this kinda reminds me of Frogger (that old Atari game, Im sure ya'll remember it) : )
Uhh... No Dream Theater content I guess so sorry : )
Mark ************************************************************ Deep RUSH Thoughts:
I bet there's a plastic surgeon in Toronto who's laughing his head off every time he remembers the Yiddish kid with the funny name who actually believed that crap he told him about "the bigger your nose is, the better you'll sing".
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:28:30 -0200 From: Thiago Zaninotti <zaninott@uol.com.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT in the Mosters of ROCK - BRAZIL! Message-ID: <335BEA0E.636A@uol.com.br>
I heard the Monsters of Rock 97 at Brazil will have DT in its crew... Does anybody know something about it ?
I also have some *RARE* videos and cds from DT... If you feel like trading this stuff mail me....
mailto:zaninott@uol.com.br
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:24:09 -0700 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Latest Fates dates from Pollstar Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970422022409.00665d50@pop.pipeline.com>
05/31/97 Corona CA Showcase Theater 06/06/97 Katwijk NET Scum Club 06/07/97 Hardenberg NET Festival 06/08/97 Vosselaar BEL Biebob 06/09/97 Tilburg NET Norderlight 06/11/97 Leer GER Zollhaus 06/12/97 Hamburg GER Markthalle 06/13/97 Osnabruck GER Hyde Park 06/14/97 Landgraaf NET Het Struitje 06/15/97 Augsburg GER Rockfabrik 06/17/97 Milan ITA Rainbow 06/18/97 Nuremberg GER Rockfabrik 06/20/97 Wurzburg GER Rockpalast 06/21/97 Markneukirchen GER Schutzenhaus 06/22/97 Ludwigsburg GER
Now who in the hell is going to any of these shows? I want to fly to Germany or Italy or the Netherlands or wherever! I mailed a few of you with no reply. Anyone in California want to confirm the May 31st show? That would be the easiest to make.
GO WINGS!
Kevin
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:20:01 -0400 From: Michael Pomerleau <michael_pomerleau@snet.net> To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Steve Morse/ Rudess-Morgenstein Dates Message-ID: <335C0431.44B7@snet.net>
To all NY/NJ Jammers;
The Steve Morse band (John Petruccis' main guitar influence)is going to be playing 3 dates in the NY/NJ area this weekend. They are;
April 24th Tramps NYC April 25th Club Bene- Sayerville NJ April 26th IMAC Theater- Huntington Long Island N.Y.
Opening for them will be - The Rudess/Morgenstein Project. Keep in mind that Jordan Rudess was the individual that originally replaced Kevin Moore, and played with Dream Theater at the Forums Foundation Gig. Unfortunately, he had been offered the Dixie Dregs Keys position and accepted it. And Rod Morgenstein is an excellent drummer! Anyway, if you have not heard Rudess/Morgenstein yet (they opened for DT on a couple of shows), go see them.
I may be makeing the trip from Hartford, CT to go see one of these shows. If you go, wear your YTSEJAM shirt!!! I'll be wearing mine.
Regards,
Michael Pomerleau
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:46:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason L Luscher <luscher@student.umass.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Recording Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970421203907.16229A-100000@wilde.oit.umass.edu>
I just had a mildly disturbing thought. DT is finally going to be in the studio recording their new album, but isn't it going to take a while. I mean, their music , as we all know, is very complex and even though they are very talented musicians I would think that it would take a little bit longer for them to record than say someone like Bush (AAAHHHH! SATAN! SATAN!). I believe MP was predicting the album being done this fall sometime, but I have this nasty nagging little feeling that we're going to be waiting a bit longer than that. I don't know, I was just curious whether or not anyone else agrees that they might take longer to record than most bands. Just a thought - Jason
NEW FATES WARNING TOMORROW!!!!!!! I CAN PUT OFF KILLING MYSELF FOR ANOTHER WEEK!!!!!
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