YTSEJAM digest 2502

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Apr 24 1997 - 21:23:40 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) FATES LA SHOW CANCELLED
     by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
      2) The Anatomy of Man - NDTC
     by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
      3) Re: Symphony X For sale
     by "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
      4) NY Bootleg stores?
     by Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com>
      5) Re: KISS
     by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
      6) a not-so-pleasant shade of blahness.
     by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
      7) New virus,this is for real.
     by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
      8) TSM
     by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
      9) Re: New dt disc!
     by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
     10) New Marillion
     by Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
     11) Re: New virus,this is for real.
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
     12) Re: Bruce Bruce
     by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
     13) Bob and the Puckwudgies
     by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
     14) midi
     by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
     15) you wanna talk about cabs?
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
     16) alarm clock, what alarm clock??????
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
     17) Re: alarm clock, what alarm clock??????
     by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
     18) one last thing.....
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
     19) Re: Stuff
     by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
     20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2500
     by jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:41:45 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: FATES LA SHOW CANCELLED
    Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.970424143607.16960A-100000@mcl.ucsb.edu>

            I called up the Showcase theater in Corona to verify that
            Fates were going to play. But the guy tells me that the
            show has been cancelled!! I didn't ask why though. Hopefully
            they are just changing venues or something.
            
            They last time I called a club to find out about a FW show,
            they also told me it was cancelled. I found out a couple of
            days later that they would be opening for DT. That was
            pretty cool!

            I was a little dissapointed with APOG, it isn't bad, but
            some of the riffing is a little boring. It will probably
            get better with more listens.

            I also just listened to HELLOWEEN's 'How Many Tears' and got
            a chill.

            layba day
            Conrad Now Playing: FATES WARNING- APOG
                                                 ANGRA- Freedom Call
                                                 ELDRITCH- Seeds of Rage

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 17:52:46 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: The Anatomy of Man - NDTC
    Message-ID: <199704242151.OAA25426@odin.ax.com>

            Someone had something from the book The Anatomy of Man
            in their .sig file...............I was wondering if you
            can give me more info. (ie, author) on the book....I know
            that there's one by DaVinci, but I don't think that its
            the same one...

            E-mail me privately with the info................

            by the way, has anyone noticed that the Ytsejam could
            easily be the one-stop source for any type of info,
            both useful and useless............?

                                    thanks in advance....

                                                    Al

    -- 
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                    Take me to your world
            I want to know if I belong there instead of here.........
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    email:  balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu          the_prof@bigfoot.com
    HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
      
    

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    Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 07:56:35 +1000 From: "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Symphony X For sale Message-ID: <199704251159.0376000@no1.com.au>

    Hi Folks, Thanks to everyone who showed interest in my offer, unfortunately I could only trade with one person, if you didn't receive a reply means you missed out.

    Graham

    Graham Boyle Sydney, Australia graham@no1.com.au

    'No one ever dreams and lives'

    Bell In The Sea M a r i l l i o n

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:04:27 -0300 From: Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com> To: Black Sabbath Mailing List <list@black-sabbath.com>, Subject: NY Bootleg stores? Message-ID: <335FD8EB.5443@geocities.com>

     I am from Brazil and a friend of mine will travel to New York City on a couple of days. I am just wondering if someone here knows a good bootleg store on there.

    Thanks! -- //--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\\

    << Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil -(RiOr Member) - Sao Paulo >> \\ mailto:sabbath.rocker@sti.com.br mailto:gzr@geocities.com // >> mailto:blacksabbath@dreamt.org << \\ Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6671 // <<___________________________________________________>> >> "I'm Rock'n'Roll Soldier, Gonna Play it Until I'm Dead << << Nobody I know will ever take my Rock'n'Roll Away From Me" >> >>________( Black Sabbath - Back Street Kids - 1976 )________<<

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:04:11 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: KISS Message-ID: <19970424.150519.3702.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>

    But the big question is:

    Will Peter Criss be with them? He's already missed one show and they had the drum tech play in Peter's makeup. Kind of makes you wonder how many times this happened in the old days but the audience was never told!

    On Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:05:32 -0700 (PDT) "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk> writes:

    >Just been announced that KISS are playing London Finsbury Park in the >UK on Saturday 5th July, & I'm getting my tix tomorrow!!!!!

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:16:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Yitz-say-jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: a not-so-pleasant shade of blahness. Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970424180903.32621A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>

    hiya kids.

    after hearing some ungoddly amount of reviews telling all of is how bitchin' the new fates warning album is, i decided to find out for myself. i bought the album, and...

    ...it's the most boring cd i've ever yerad in my life.

    yes, i do appreciate fates's efort to do such a non-mainstreem thing like this,m and i applaud them. yes, i do think mark zonder's drums kick alot of ass.

    that's all i like about it.

    the music...well, it's like a death march. it's like lard's "time to melt," which is basically a 34 minute track of 5 chords repeated over and over again. so fates can repeat a musical theme. great. yes does it to, and that's why they haven't domne anything original since 1980. this concept album could have (and should have, imo) been shortened to 10 minutes. it's lik an ongoing funeral.

    the vocals. i assume ray adler can't just sing, 'cause he fails to do so. he tries to make each word say something in it's own right. maybe some people like that, but i don't...espically because i'm a singer. you wanna sing? then sing.

    of course, this is totally my opinion. if any of you want this (and can't find it) i'll be more than happy to sell my cd (which i've only played once) for 6 bucks.

    any comments that have some insightfullness are always welcome.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "..666 is no longer alone. he's getting out the marrow in your backbone, and the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll gonna blow right down inside your soul. pythagoras with the looking-glass, reflect the full moon. in blood, he's writing the lyrics to a brand new tune.." * * * * * * * * * * mike ostrich e-mail: syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com erotomania: http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/ offical lemur voice homepage: http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/lemur-lemur-main.htm

    (c) 1997 Happy Fun Ball, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:18:20 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New virus,this is for real. Message-ID: <19970424.151953.3702.3.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>

    I personally think this is bullshit but I'm forwarding it just in case.

    Scott *************************************************************************** I'm afraid of Americans; I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it; I'm afraid I can't. ***************************************************************************

    --------- Begin forwarded message ----------

    "THERE IS A NEW AOL SCAM."It is essential that this problem be reconciled as soon as possible. A few hours ago, I opened an E-mail that had the subject heading of aol4free.com Within seconds of opening it, a window appeared and began to display my files that were being deleted. I immediately shut down my computer, but it was too late. This virus wiped me out. It ate the Anti-Virus Software that comes with the Windows '95 Program along with F-Prot AVS. Neither was able to detect it. Please be careful and send this to as many people as possible, so maybe this new virus can be eliminated."

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 17:21:23 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TSM Message-ID: <19970424212119.AAA22494@mail.pananet.com>

    Hey folks, I just read Mike Bahr's extnsive comparison between TSM and 1001 Nights, and I dig it. My question is, how does it fit in the whole 'A mind Beside Itself'? I mean I've always seen TSM as an answer to all the problems and confusion in Voices. Was it that JP found thge answer to all those doubts he was having in that book? Sorry if this has already been discussed.

    thankyouverymuch Ernie

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:27:33 -0500 (EST) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: New dt disc! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970424182721.3652B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! I'm DYIN'!!!!

    _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* ^ According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: ^ ^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^ ^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^ ^ would have 4 sharps. ^ ^ Statistics show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances ^ ^ are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :) ^ ^ ^ ^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^ ^ ^ ^ Eric Moegling: emoeglin@wezl.org ^ ^ emoeglin@mail.coin.missouri.edu ^ ^ ^ ^ HOMEPAGE - http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN or http://opeckie.base.org ^ ^_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_^

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:22:01 -0400 From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com> To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New Marillion Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=bostech%l=CARRIER-970424182201Z-8371@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>

    Well, I can't believe that Bitchy has not posted anything on this subject yet (maybe I missed it rifling through all the Fates bs), but for those who like Marillion, there is some pretty good news. Note that I am a Fish-era fan and most definitely not a Hogarth-era fan but to me, this is their best album in quite a while. They are still much more mellow than the good ol' days but they do kick things into gear a couple of times.

    I do not know if/when it is to be released in the USA since I picked it up in Amsterdam after the shows. Or, was it in Tilburg between the two shows (hehehehe.....). Or, as Jason always says <grin>, or is it <snicker> - I forget.

    Later, Mark Metzger mmetzger@bostech.com

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    Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:44:11 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: New virus,this is for real. Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970423184152.1782C-100000@digital.dreamt.org>

    > I personally think this is bullshit but I'm forwarding it just in case.

    It's bullshit. Reading an e-mail can NOT unleash a virus on your system. Viruses (with the exception of the Word Macro viruses) live in executable code, and not data. Just *looking* at it can't do anything. If someone e-mails you a program, and you extract the program from the e-mail and run it separately, who knows what it'll do. But just reading e-mail can't do anything to your system.

    I knew all this school would come in handy someday. -d

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:01:11 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Bruce Bruce Message-ID: <199704242257.RAA00918@Walden.MO.NET>

    >Looking forward to Bruce Dickinson's new album, "Accident of Birth". > Haven't anticipated an album this much since Maiden released "The X >Factor". AdvanceWord is terribly good. Damn straight. I almost forgot about this one. How could I ahve done that? I mean, from what I understand, Adrian Smith is playing on some of the tunes, and that they rule :). Any word on when this one's due out?

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:11:18 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bob and the Puckwudgies Message-ID: <199704242311.QAA12558@main.cfmc.com>

    I don't think I've seen a group of people rave about an album quite like this. I've listened to the record a few more times, and, while it's growing on me, I'd still put it in the "Night on Brocken" and "No Exit" class....it isn't quite where "Parallels" is for me (actually, it's not even that close). It certainly IS more progressive, though I think, in terms of how I think if progressivity, "No Exit" probably fits the bill a little better. It's still a hell of an album, I'll admit.

    Queensryche? Man....I really like "The Warning" and "Rage for Order," but have you guys LOOKED at those damn pictures. It's embarassing, man...

    Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Fates Warning: A Pleasant Shade of Grey 2. Johnny Cash: Unchained 3. Amon Duul (II): Carnival in Babylon 4. Rush: Hold Your Fire 5. Gong: Shapeshifter

    Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 19:18:00 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: midi Message-ID: <19970424231754.AAA27162@mail.pananet.com>

    I just started getting into midi and I have a problem. When I record w/ my keyboard i don't hear anything of what I'm playing, or the tempo. However the notes come out, and you can hear it when you play it back. Any body know wuzzup? is it the program? Does any body know any good free sequencing software i can get on the net to start out? thanks

    about DT and QR. It just so happens that many Dt fans happen to like QR a lot. Secondly Qr considered progressive by many because of O:M since its a concept album, and because they're constantly changing their style; hence, they progress.. like Rush. THats' exactly what they did in HitNF. How can anybody call adapting the current rock sounds into your style 'regressing'. Besides it's nice to hear the boys just rock out for once. I'm sure next time they'll go back to thought-out, more intellectual ways.

    To sum it up, QR and DT have very different styles, but they have certain qualities which attract many to both. (IMO it mostly lies in the lyrics.. at least that's my case)

    latah thankyouverymuch Ernie

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:35:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: you wanna talk about cabs? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970424202738.5919D-100000@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu>

    > Any cab with decent speakers will sound good. There is some >evidence to support that some of the new Mesa cabs

    ask pam wheaton (thanks again!)......she's the cab expert around here :)

    fates query.......if you like it, say, at a level where it's at a "better than anything that fates has ever done before" level for you.....how much of that has to do with Kevin Moore' presence on this disk, and your tendencies as a DT fan??

    in a different way: Do you like APSoG for being a fates warning album, or for Kevmo's performance? Me, I totally dig apsog as a fates album, written totally by Jim Matheos.....but Kevin Moore's presence/performance gives it that extra boost, to raise it over Parallels in my book....(no, labrie on "life in still water" (i think) doesn't match up)......and I still can't say for sure that the same keyboard parts, if performed by any other keyboardist, no matter how good, would have provided that "boost" in my estimation.....

    partha

    "murdered in munich........" fw

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:50:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: alarm clock, what alarm clock?????? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970424204628.5919E-100000@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu>

    Being in this amazingly non-lazy mood these past few days.....I've been resetting CD player within a minute of the "end" of ApSog...... so, basically, I had no clew, for a while, what the hell y'all were talking about an alarm clock for........anyway, LOVE! that YYZ-ish run near the end of part VII

    partha

    About the below..........Dammit, Rip, you scared him away!

    > plus a ten minute bonus track of john myung singing in the shower (never > before heard!!!) total running time approx. 75 minutes :) > place your order now! DO NOT MISS OUT! ~Rip ------------------------------ > From: aeroguil <aeroguil@ibm.net> > cancel my subscription

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 21:04:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> Subject: Re: alarm clock, what alarm clock?????? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970424210319.16093A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>

    > Being in this amazingly non-lazy mood these past few days.....I've been > resetting CD player within a minute of the "end" of ApSog...... > so, basically, I had no clew, for a while, what the hell y'all were > talking about an alarm clock for........anyway, LOVE! that YYZ-ish run > near the end of part VII

    you know why that alarm clock is there?

    TO WAKE EVERYONE UP FROM FALLING ASLEEP.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "..666 is no longer alone. he's getting out the marrow in your backbone, and the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll gonna blow right down inside your soul. pythagoras with the looking-glass, reflect the full moon. in blood, he's writing the lyrics to a brand new tune.." * * * * * * * * * * mike ostrich e-mail: syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com erotomania: http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/ offical lemur voice homepage: http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/lemur.htm

    (c) 1997 Happy Fun Ball, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 21:09:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: one last thing..... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970424210617.5919F-100000@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu>

    Does one song a concept album make? I mean, hell, the whole album is geared towards one idea/one story.....

    partha

    p.s.: Chip Alexander: sorry, dude, I can't help you with the DT/QR comparisooon stuff, except to say both are in my fave three bands list.......but, tell ya what......look up this guy who calls himself "mindcrimer", he'll give you a great spiel on what makes QR so great........maybe one of the other jammers can hook you up with an e-mail address?????

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:13:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Stuff Message-ID: <199704250113.UAA26972@parka.winternet.com>

    > > I'd like to see someone make a Savatage disc.

    There are a few out there, but usually extremely expensive and hard to find.

    But it is amazing the difference in attitude between Savatage and Dream Theater on bootlegs. Even though I have tried to explain it to them a number of times. It is not that they are totaly against it, but feel that the Record label would drop them (or cause other problems in contract negotations) Savatage is quite fortunate to still be on Atlanic when so many other bands like them have been dropped. So right now they are keeping to the straight and narrow.

    Although if you can get your hands on "Made in Heaven 1996" , it is quite excellent. It is a 2CD live show that is a boot in Europe sells for $120 to $180 here in the US.

    Nathan Bradley -------------------------------------------------------------------------- savaweb@winternet.com Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages

    www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso moving soon to www.savatage.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 18:14:44 -0700 From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2500 Message-ID: <v02130506af8580dfab1e@[128.32.100.59]>

    >She lets him pick the name and if it's a girl he likes to call her Melody. If >it's a boy his name will be Maximum Lennon Portnoy ---> Max

    Pretty awesome names Mike! She should have twins, a boy and a girl. Then you could have Maximum Melody! I like the Lennon touch too.

    -Shane

    ______________________________________________________________________________ I Shane Liebling I I was told there's a miracle for each I I jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu I day that I try. I was told there's a I I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I new love that's born for each one I I CAA Tweeker & Ytsejammer I that has died... Love is the Dance of I I Member of A.M.M.O. since 1997 I Eternity."Metropolis" - Dream Theater I ______________________________________________________________________________

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