YTSEJAM Digest 2431
Today's Topics:
1) Re: More clinic stuff...
by Glover <glover@dns.thewebcorp.com>
2) Re: Cool dream, this-n-that (DTC)
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
3) 4/4 5/4 9/8 72364762374623/53
by Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
4) buying at a young age
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
5) FIX FOR 97 ** RECORDING !**
by "Francesco" <amendo@tno.it>
6) RE: Rush Tickets
by Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2430
by jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2430
by Aaron Happe <jared@stlnet.com>
9) KTS recordings
by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu>
10) KORG TRINITY
by Todd <twwilso@students.uiuc.edu>
11) Need FW soundclip address again!!!
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
12) Nuno Bettencourt in NYC
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
13) Re: KTS recordings
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
14) Meshuggah and John Hendricks
by Glenn Pillsbury <pillsbur@ucla.edu>
15) coupla things
by Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
16) Korging
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
17) Fates clips not working
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
18) nebbermind
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
19) Re: Korging
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
20) Harmonicas
by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
21) Re: KTS recordings
by Edward Polzin <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 11:43:51 -0500
From: Glover <glover@dns.thewebcorp.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: More clinic stuff...
Message-ID: <3347D2C7.14C2@dns.thewebcorp.com>
<By the way, does anyone here know what line of work Derek was in in his
<early teens? He mentioned something about 'buying [his] first Korg
<when
<[he] was 13...' Jesus, when I was 13 I could hardly afford to buy
<popcorn
<at the movies when I could afford to go the movies! Most of the Korgs
<I
<have seen cost more than my entire computer, and I have a system that
<won't be obsolete for years!
The keyboard player I play with is 14, and he got a Yamaha W-5 (?) when
he was 13. His parents paid for it, it was kind of like a reward for
sticking with piano for all of those years. I'd be willing to bet that
Derek did nothing but play throughout his teen years, so his parents
bought him one, instead of say, a car.
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 12:54:34 -0700
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Cool dream, this-n-that (DTC)
Message-ID: <3347FF7A.7ABF@dreamt.org>
That is cool, but there's just one thing--I had proposed that everyone
do that anyway at the last Ytse-Con. I think that DT was orginally
supposed to go, so I figured everyone could just jam with the guys.
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 19:03:06 +0200
From: Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 4/4 5/4 9/8 72364762374623/53
Message-ID: <3347D749.7679@uni-mb.si>
The main thing are accents, which note is accented...
Then you get whatever you want.
(4/4 or 5/4 or 9/8) if you like it... accented where you like... or
where it's supposed to be!
Just to add some spice here...
Chill out dudes... life's a joke, right?
-- Sebastjan Videc aka StDeVil on IRC Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si<<- And from an Ivory tower hears her call Let the light surround you!!! ->> Kevin Moore
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 12:51:14 -0500 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: buying at a young age Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970406175114.00744ba0@mail.inlink.com>
well, i got my first 200 dollar guitar in sixth grade, 400 dollar acoustic in 7th, and 800 dollar jackson in 8th.. and i'm proud to say i paid for them all myself, and its not because i have a big allowance, or rich folx, but its because every summer i work my ass off mowing lawns up the ass. and the older i get the more lawns i can handle and the more cash i rake in :) odd jobs are also a payoff, i'm like a psycho who'll do anything for a buck when i need something, and i usually end up earning enough to buy it. that might have been one of derek's tricks. ~Rip
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 20:20:17 +0000 From: "Francesco" <amendo@tno.it> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FIX FOR 97 ** RECORDING !** Message-ID: <199704061915.VAA09528@sirio.tno.it>
Hello from Italy, everybody!!
In 6 days Dream Theater will play live in Milan... me and my friends already planned to entirely record the show, both audio and video. If anyone of you is interested, just e-mail me privately. We can arrange some trade! Bye!! Francesco
http://www.angelfire.com/sd/sundown e-mail mailto:amendo@tno.it
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 12:16:20 -0700 From: Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Rush Tickets Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970406121607.00691278@onfire.net>
>>Ticket sales for 11/29/96 Rush show -> I show up, I'm first in line, no >>lottery, but the first tickets out of the machine were in the center of >>the floor adjacent to the soundboard. Somehow 29 rows of seats were sold >>between the time I said "I'll take 4 seats" and the time the guy at >>Ticketmaster punched in the order. =20 > =20 >yeah....radio stations and whatever get seats for callers... scalpers have >connections..... I was second in line and got two seats in the center of >the 20th row... still good seating, but i can't try and slap Alex and Geddy >five anymore... oh well - who cares? I'm going to RUSH! > =B7 =95 Colonel=20
Ive recently found out why all this happens too.. there is the radio and everything, and scalpers always have connections, but Im pretty sure employees can get whatever they want too cause I went to Ozz-Fest at Desert Sky in Phoenix last year, and my friend Lindsey's dad (who is the doctor there) got us front row tickets like the week before, after it was sold out, and we got backstage softies. Oh yeah, did I mention he me and 5 other Rush fans front row tickets and softies for the show on May 8? Maybe Ill see some of you Phoenix Rush fans there : )
Mark -------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Hatch-Miller, ace@onfire.net
"He's noble enough to know whats right but weak enough not to choose it He's wise enough to win the world but fool enough to lose it"-
Rush, "New World Man"
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 12:13:58 -0700 From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2430 Message-ID: <v02130500af6da5ea0174@[128.32.100.59]>
Security was so loose there that > you could have walked up on stage, unplugged JP from his pre-amp, thrown > him - and his guitar - over your shoulder, walked out, put them both in > the trunk of your car, and driven off. Hell, one of the employees would > have followed you to the lot with the pre-amp saying "excuse me? Sir? > You forgot this..."
Wow, I have heard of lax security but this is ridiculous! Alright, who's got JP in their trunk?
-Shane
______________________________________________________________________________ I Shane Liebling I You can call me Kennedy, you may have I I jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu I killed him, but you cannot kill me. I I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I - Spock's Beard "The Light" I I____________________________________I_______________________________________I
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 15:22:17 -0500 From: Aaron Happe <jared@stlnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2430 Message-ID: <334805F9.76E3@mail.stlnet.com>
> > as for derek, he wasnt a dick at all, and yeah, it was a riot when he would > turn people down for autographing old dt stuff. he did it to several > people, all of whom were pretty dumb for asking. i actually thought he > seemed like a great guy, and i saw both DS and JPs reactions when pat gave > em complimentary ytsejam shirts and they absolutely loved em. if i would > have thought ahead i would have asked pat to bring an extra and bought one > from him there.
I 100% agree with Rip, derek was NOT a dick. He didnt play on those CDs so why should he sign it? That would be like me walking up with a Rush CD and saying Derek can you sign this? I thought Derek was really kewl also, he just had that cool kinda presonality, just like another one of the DT fans in the store. At first he didnt look at my Fan Club CD good enough at first and he said he wouldnt sign it:-) I had to show it to him again, and he was like oh yeah :-)
-Aaron Happe
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:50:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: KTS recordings Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970406164658.26946A-100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>
Has anyone on the 'Jam ever ordered from Kiss the Stone records directly? They've got quite a few bootlegs I'm considering ordering, and I don't want to get ripped off (I can't remember if people said not to order from them during the bad CD dealers thread). Any info via personal e-mail would be more than appreciated.
Sincerely
G. Jack Thetgyi
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:16:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd <twwilso@students.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: KORG TRINITY Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970406161337.580B-100000@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu>
in response to that guy who is thinking about buying a trinity prox...DO IT!!!!! i have one and it is amazing. yes derek uses it too. this baby even has a touch screen on it. it has a sound called "Dream Theatre" (they mispelled it, not me) and another one called "Metropolis." If you want to see a picture of it, go to the trinity home page at:
www.megamed.com/jonathan/trinity/trinity.html
todd wilson
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 17:52:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Need FW soundclip address again!!! Message-ID: <199704062152.RAA12636@umbc10.umbc.edu>
In the last jam, someone posted the address of a web site with some new sound clips from Fates Warning. I deleted the jam before I made note of the address. Could someone please fill me in?
Thanks!
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 97 17:55:21 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Nuno Bettencourt in NYC Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+0h,GnA@tcx.tcco.com>
Is anyone else going to the Nuno Bettencourt show at the Mercury Lounge in NYC this Thursday (4/10)? I plan to be there. If anyone wants to get together and hang out before the show, please let me know. I don't think I'll be able to convince any of my friends to go...
Thanks - Chung in NYC
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 18:12:03 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: KTS recordings Message-ID: <19970406.151135.11438.0.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
I've dealt with them several times and have NEVER had a problem. I even had a return once and they agreed & shipped a different title. I *highly* recommend them.
But HURRY! at the end of the month they go out of business. Right now they're selling their cd's at $12 with a minimum of five discs. I just ordered six titles from them this week and they'll probably be here by the end of the seek or first part of next.
Scott ******************************************************************************************* In the year 2000, Aunt Jemima and Mrs. Butterworth will tarnish their image by admitting that they've "Tasted each others' syrup." Conan O'Brien April 1, 1997. *******************************************************************************************
On Sun, 6 Apr 1997 13:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu> writes: > Has anyone on the 'Jam ever ordered from Kiss the Stone >records >directly? They've got quite a few bootlegs I'm considering ordering, >and >I don't want to get ripped off (I can't remember if people said not to >order from them during the bad CD dealers thread). Any info via >personal >e-mail would be more than appreciated. > > Sincerely > > G. Jack >Thetgyi > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"There's no 'off' position on the genius switch." -David >Letterman >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 03:43:33 -0800 From: Glenn Pillsbury <pillsbur@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Meshuggah and John Hendricks Message-ID: <33478C65.218B@ucla.edu>
Jammers:
Do any of you Meshuggah-ites out there have any news about them? Their sole web page is gone and I've been wondering what's been up. Also, and perhaps more important, I would really, really like to find the Contradictions Collapse album, and would appreciate any help thereto.
Secondly, does anyone have any information at all on John Hendricks, one of the people thanked in the I&W booklet? (<-DTC!)
Private e-mail on either of the above requests, please. :)
Lastily, in the tradition of somebody else on the 'Jam (whose name I've forgotten <g>), I have been selected to do my own radio show here at UCLA. Very exciting indeed to be able to play metal in an alternative world (nothing wrong with that world, per se, but I feel left out...). Also, as you LA jammers know, KLOS has gone lame-o-rama and so now my show has the distinction of being the only metal show in LA (KCAL not withstanding). Pretty neat, eh? Pretty gimicky, too. :)
Ok, much bandwidth wasted on babble, burble, and banter. Please don't bicker or start a brouhaha. Bye.
Glenn
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 19:00:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: coupla things Message-ID: <01IHE94JNV6A91W386@ltu.edu>
To the dude who bought the JPM100:
How much did you pay for this thing? As for guitars, I'm more of an ESP guy myself, but I love Ibanez basses. I just bought a SR1200, and it's damn sweet. Neck-thru, active pickups, plays like a dream.
When the hell are we going to get a clinic in Detroit? I saw Andy Timmons a few years back, but that would be nothing compared to JP and DS!
Who is playing backup guitar on unplugged in Europe tracks that appear on Acoustic Dreams? IN LSOAD, I hear Myung's bass, JP's guitar, and another guitar that is playing the keyboard parts. Is this Derek? Just curious.
-C#
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 16:17:36 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Korging Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970406161733.006c23fc@cats.ucsc.edu>
Ah, the Pro-X. Lemme guess ... it's the 76-key version of the Trinity with the Prophecy add-in?
I played on a Trinity and Prophecy separately, and they were nice, but I guess deep down I'm just a Roland slut. I've got a JV-90 with add-in board, a vintage keys module by them, a PMA-5, an SPD-11 drum unit, and now I'm saving up my pennies (i.e. selling off magic cards & such) to buy me a JP-8000. :)
__ /\ __ __\/__\/__ ~Chris \_||_/ /__||__\ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ // \ | \\ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/9597 (coming soon) \|
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 16:21:20 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates clips not working Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970406162116.00698290@cats.ucsc.edu>
To the guy with the Pleasant Shade of Grey clips: They don't work with the free version of RealAudio 3.0. The compression you ise is not supported. Can you upload ones that us cheapskates can listen to? :)
I spend all my money on CDs and Music stuff (and computer games ... oops) __ /\ __ __\/__\/__ ~Chris \_||_/ /__||__\ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ // \ | \\ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/9597 (coming soon) \|
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 16:24:58 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: nebbermind Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970406162453.00698290@cats.ucsc.edu>
SOmehow my realaudio got dumped back to 2.0. I'm an idiot. re-Downloading 3.0 now. :P
__ /\ __ __\/__\/__ ~Chris \_||_/ /__||__\ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ // \ | \\ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/9597 (coming soon) \|
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 18:02:32 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Korging Message-ID: <199704070001.RAA17655@odin.ax.com>
> Ah, the Pro-X. Lemme guess ... it's the 76-key version of the Trinity with > the Prophecy add-in?
Close, but it's the 88 wieghted-key version with the Prophecy board, the 543MB hard drive, playback sampler, SCSI port, etc. They are DAMN sweet. This thing's it's own recording studio. The 76 key version is just the Trinity Pro. I'm gonna look into whether it would be more cost-effective to get the cheap no-extras model and get them added on later as I can afford them. I really can't put forth $3500 at this time for one, but $2000 doesn't sound too bad. I gotta pay off the 4-track recorder and X3 first though. :) > I played on a Trinity and Prophecy separately, and they were nice, but I > guess deep down I'm just a Roland slut. I've got a JV-90 with add-in > board, a vintage keys module by them, a PMA-5, an SPD-11 drum unit, and now > I'm saving up my pennies (i.e. selling off magic cards & such) to buy me a > JP-8000. :)
You slut! :)
Also, thanks to Todd for showing the way to the Trinity site. I know of a good X3 at http://www.best.com/~jonin/x3-web.htmlIt's probably the best one out there. Good place for patches, etc.
Anyone got an extra $3500? :) "And lo cameth down from the mountain the wombat and thus gaveth he the blessing of life unto Australia. Thus spaketh he 'dweefle' and it was good. O, how the divine blessing of his teaching scoureth the land and yea, harken unto he the herald of the Divine Being 'dweefle' and harken unto thyself the message of the wombat, and ye shall gain everlasting peace." ---From the teachings of KorgX3 http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez ibanez@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 17:02:54 PDT From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Harmonicas Message-ID: <199704070002.RAA21363@f19.hotmail.com>
>Hi Peoples, > One thing I especially like about DT is the fact that none of their >songs contain a harmonica. Or kazoo and especially bagpipes. My band
Actually, MP did a lot of harmonica work on Images and Words. In fact, that's why he had to use triggers, the harmonica kept bleeding on to the drum tracks. Then right before the final mix down, he had a bad dream about being chased around New York by a bunch of giant harmonicas, so he erased all of the harmonica tracks.
kevin hammer
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 19:26:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Edward Polzin <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: KTS recordings Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970406192552.4755A-100000@eehpx43.cen.uiuc.edu>
You better hurry up. They arent going to be around after the 15th. later.
Ed
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On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Gilbert Jack Thetgyi wrote:
> Has anyone on the 'Jam ever ordered from Kiss the Stone records > directly? They've got quite a few bootlegs I'm considering ordering, and > I don't want to get ripped off (I can't remember if people said not to > order from them during the bad CD dealers thread). Any info via personal > e-mail would be more than appreciated. > > Sincerely > > G. Jack Thetgyi > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "There's no 'off' position on the genius switch." -David Letterman > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >
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