YTSEJAM Digest 2430
Today's Topics:
1) happy bouncy clinic thoughts
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
2) New Fates Warning - Sound Clips
by Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2428
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
4) Re: QR Empire single
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
5) THANX!!
by "Jim Munster" <freakboy@ptd.net>
6) A call to Europeans for help
by gsrockr@stratos.net (George Szumski)
7) weird story with JP
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
8) Cool dream, this-n-that (DTC)
by Yo <yo@yo.com>
9) price of Korg
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
10) some stuff.
by "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
11) Re: price of Korg
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
12) Much Music (Canadian TV)
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
13) heheheh... <POP!>
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
14) Rush seats
by cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
15) Re: some stuff.
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
16) Re: some stuff.
by 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
17) Re: Ytse-Asshole of the month !!!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2429
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 17:33:46 -0600
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: happy bouncy clinic thoughts
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970405233346.0075640c@mail.inlink.com>
>Rip said that he thought they played You or Me... I don't think so, but if
>anyone else remembers, please correct me.
i'm definately not sure about if it was you or me, however they did play one
new DT song that i heard the title of, then a few minutes later found myself
saying "uh.. what did he just say again?" so to my best knowledge it was
you or me, but my knowledge is that of a dimwit on many (most) occasions :)
> Rip?
>Didn't even know you were there... you were probably one of the fourteen
>year olds my cousin and I were making fun of. :)
hehe, i was the one in the black long sleeved fix for 96 shirt.. i only saw
one other fix shirt, and it was maroon, short sleeved and worn by a big
dude, so the other fix shirt you saw was worn by yours truly. i was the
dude who asked john if he'd ever considered doing a concept album. yeah
yeah, dumb question, dumbly said, but i had a fun time doing it! :) also
asked him if he was afraid of the new 54 minute fates track while up there
for autographs. ;)
as for derek, he wasnt a dick at all, and yeah, it was a riot when he would
turn people down for autographing old dt stuff. he did it to several
people, all of whom were pretty dumb for asking. i actually thought he
seemed like a great guy, and i saw both DS and JPs reactions when pat gave
em complimentary ytsejam shirts and they absolutely loved em. if i would
have thought ahead i would have asked pat to bring an extra and bought one
from him there.
until the next dt get together in st louis i guess.. :)
i did run into dale again at mc murray again today, just as i was leaving..
man, thanks a ton for the tapes of stuff, i'll get you back two fold for
that! sorry i had to split!
and that wraps up another post :)
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 16:29:36 -0700
From: Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Fates Warning - Sound Clips
Message-ID: <3346E060.38AE@goodnet.com>
Hey everybody,
I finally put some sound clips of the new album up on my Fates page,
http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer/fw/fw.htm
Check in the Discography section.... Enjoy!
~Mike
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 19:17:41 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2428
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970405191028.142496A-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Sat, 5 Apr 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> > Tyketto
> > Never heard their music but i believe its 80's warrant type stuff.
>
Tyketto is a GREAT hard rock/AOR band. If you're into this kind of stuff
(like I am) pick up their debut album "Don't Come Easy." Easily one of
the best albums, debut or otherwise, by ANY band in the genre. The second
one "Strength In Numbers" is pretty good, but I would avoid "Shine,"
which has a different lead singer, who did a great Steve Perry
impersonation w/ the band Tall Stories, but sounds like a 2nd rate
Robert Plant ripoff w/ Tyketto.
Richie
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 19:27:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: QR Empire single
Message-ID: <199704060027.TAA04825@newman.concentric.net>
D-Man wrote:
>On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Rick Audet wrote:
>
>> I was digging through my roommate's CD's when I stumbled across this QR
>> single for "Empire", which also has "Scarborough Fair", "Prophecy", and
>> "Della Brown" on it. It's an import from Holland. Anyone know if this is
>> worth anything these days?
>
>Are you so short of cash you have to start selling your roommate's shit? :)
Shhh!! Not so loud. I need some cash to buy a CD boot of a Fix show.
-Rick Audet
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 19:39:07 -0500
From: "Jim Munster" <freakboy@ptd.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: THANX!!
Message-ID: <199704060046.QAA06760@odin.ax.com>
THANKS NEIL!!
Your words of encouragement have spawned me to greater heights. As you
said, it sometimes takes people like ourselves to be bold and listen and
play what we like. I currently am in the process of mixing an original
studio album myself and my roomate and I have spent much time arranging,
producing and writing. The direction of the music lies somewhere within
the realm of a Metallica meets DT in an alleyway and decides to "duke it
out." Thanks for letting me know that there are some people out there that
still appreciate "good" music.
Musically yours,
Freakboy
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 20:17:42 -0500
From: gsrockr@stratos.net (George Szumski)
To: freaks@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A call to Europeans for help
Message-ID: <19970406011741234.AAA200@gsrockr.stratos.net>
Hello all. I am looking for a book that isn't available here in the U.S. The
book is called Not For Our Eyes by Annamarie Piccone. My mother is
trying to get this book. It might be written in Italian, but since she doesn't
read Italian, she wants an English version. If you can find the book,
please e-mail me at gsrockr@stratos.net. Thanks for your time, G.
_________________________________________
"I'm out of debt for the first time in my adult life."
"'What are you going to do now?'"
"Buy a house." -G.S. 11/4/96
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 20:57:42 -0500 (EST)
From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
To: Bitch Hell <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: weird story with JP
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970405205127.711225464A-100000@drew.edu>
Hey folks-
I had been off the jam for awhile but just wanted to tell this story that
just happened to my friend:
My friend Tony from Drew went to Long Island this weekend to visit his
woman. Anyways, I'm just sitting in my room and he calls me all excited.
He told me that he met John Petrucci in the Smithaven Mall in Long
Island. At first, my friend was freaking out because he was not sure if
it was him or not so he decided to model ytsejam behavior and stalk him.
BTW, John was with his wife and kids. So he follows John into a candy
store. Here's a brief paraphrased conversation of what happened:
Tony: Excuse me, are you John Petrucci?
JP: Yes.
Tony: I don't want to bother you but I just want to say that
you're my favorite guitarist.
JP: Thanks.
That's basically the gist of it. My friend was too nervous to ask him any
questions or anything but told me that if he had a second chance he would
have asked about the upcoming album. Oh well. Just wanted to share that
story.
Brandon
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 21:07:00 -0500
From: Yo <yo@yo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cool dream, this-n-that (DTC)
Message-ID: <33470544.60F@yo.com>
HEY NOW! Check out this freaky dream I had the other night! I swear to
god this
is true... :)
Remember back in the mid-80's when "We Are the World" and its hard
rock/metal
equivalent "Starz" were all the rage? Well, my dream involved a big
recording
session similar to those... you know, a room full of singers up on
risers,
gathered in groups around several mics, the whole nine yards. Exactly
like you
see in those "making of" videos. Except this session was a group of us
YTSEJAMMERS singing our own "all-star" version of ACoS! It was so cool.
I have no idea how, but somehow we got our hands on a special
instrumental mix
of ACoS, maybe through the fan club or something (it was a dream, man,
you
have to suspend some disbelief!). Anyway, somebody on the list organized
a
YtseCon sort of thing whereby jammers from all over the place showed up
at this
studio one weekend for the recording session. I guess there were about
30 of us
altogether, and each jammer got to sing a couple of lines. I'm laughing
just
thinking about it. The better singers in the bunch got to take the more
difficult
sections, the middle-of-the-road singers were assigned somewhat
less-challenging
sections, and the absolutely tone deaf graciously volunteered to do the
spoken word
parts. :) Everyone chimed in together to sing parts like "Innocence
caressing me..."
and of course to yell "PLEASE DON'T GO!!!" It was great! Easily one of
the coolest
dreams I've ever had.
The finished product sounded really great, by the way... especially
certain moments
when 2 jammers got to harmonize ("oh come let us adore him," etc) and
especially
the huge choir of PLEASE DON'T GO!!! I got to sing the "tripping through
the light
fantastic....I feel like giving up" part of Another World.
HOW COOL IS THAT???
Lying bleeding in the dark,
Jeff
grin@albany.net
http://www.grinmedia.com/
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 18:04:59 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: price of Korg
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970405180320.0069d214@cats.ucsc.edu>
These days they can vary from $500 to over $3,000 with your good pro-level
board being an average of $1000 to $1500. Same for pretty much any
manufacturer. Used is cheaper, of course.
As to how Derek bought his when he was thirteen and how much a good board
cost then, I don't know, but who knows, maybe it was bought for him by his
parents for a Christmas (or whatever) present.
__ /\ __
__\/__\/__ ~Chris
\_||_/
/__||__\ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/
// \ | \\ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/9597 (coming soon)
\|
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 22:22:52 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: some stuff.
Message-ID: <199704060322.WAA12870@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
Well I figured I would post a couple of cool responses to some cool
stuff that has been posted while I have been under the weather with pneumonia.
I heard what kind of response the petition had and I am psyched.
Something like 250,000 signatures! That is great!
Did anyone catch Geoff Tate on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher
last night? How was it?
Does anyone know when I can purchase Rush tickets for the show on
June 23rd @ Great Woods, Mansfield Mass? Let me know via private e mail.
Later, J
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 20:11:39 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: price of Korg
Message-ID: <199704060323.TAA08055@odin.ax.com>
> These days they can vary from $500 to over $3,000 with your good pro-level
> board being an average of $1000 to $1500. Same for pretty much any
> manufacturer. Used is cheaper, of course.
Am I up for bid now, or what? :)
Actually the one I want I've only seen discounted for $3500. Most
retail places I've seen want it for around $4k to $5k. It's name is
the Trinity ProX, and it's power is divine. Most certainly more than
just a synth. I've got the ad brochure thing, if people want a post
of it's amazingness, lemme know, I'll be glad to show it off. This
thing kicks more ass than E-Man's JPM100.
(It's yours dude, YOUR JPM. :) The Ibanez EKM1000. :)
Glad to see Derek uses one, too. I'll have to beat him up after a
show and take it from him.
Anyone else ever try one of these out? There's a couple of premade
samples in it. If I remember right, one's called Theater of Dreams,
and there was another Dream Theater reference one on there called
Yit-say-jam or sumthin like that. Too bad I can't remember Exactly.
It's rather kewl, though. Top quality and all. Too bad Korg doesn't
have their own website, or I'd point you to one.
Ah, well, my X3 suits me fine anyway. :)
"And lo cameth down from the mountain the wombat
gaveth the blessing of life unto Australia. Thus
spaketh he 'dweefle' and it was good. O, how the
divine blessing of his teaching scoureth the land
and yea, harken unto he the herald of the Divine
Being 'dweefle' and harken unto thyself the message
of the wombat, and ye shall gain everlasting peace."
---From the teachings of KorgX3
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 97 23:02:17 EST
From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Much Music (Canadian TV)
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+l1mFnA@tcx.tcco.com>
Does anyone get a Canadian (Toronto area) tv channel called MUCH MUSIC? I
get it on my DSS dish. It's got a lot of corny videos I've never seen
before, but they do a lot of cool stuff that MTV doesn't do. They have live
stuff, a metal show and generally more music...
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 22:56:10 -0600
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: heheheh... <POP!>
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970406055610.00761180@mail.inlink.com>
well, i got the new u2 today. been meaning to for a while, and so far i dig
it. very dancey, i think its pretty cool. maybe i'll set up my strobe
light later and sit around in it while listening to this :) theres actually
lots of melody on the album, some cool vocals and as always edges guitar
work is edge-like and premo. following the vein of achtung and zooropa,
with a few new tricks in the bag. i kind of think the whole history of u2
from scrappy street punks to the biggest in the biz is a fascinating one,
and they just cant help being one of my favorite bands. Now with all these
new albums coming out, i want my new DT! :<
=)
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 23:49:24 -0600
From: cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Rush seats
Message-ID: <19970406054634591.AAA140@cmustard.vonl.com>
>Ticket sales for 11/29/96 Rush show -> I show up, I'm first in line, no
>lottery, but the first tickets out of the machine were in the center of
>the floor adjacent to the soundboard. Somehow 29 rows of seats were sold
>between the time I said "I'll take 4 seats" and the time the guy at
>Ticketmaster punched in the order.
yeah....radio stations and whatever get seats for callers... scalpers have
connections..... I was second in line and got two seats in the center of
the 20th row... still good seating, but i can't try and slap Alex and Geddy
five anymore... oh well - who cares? I'm going to RUSH!
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 01:32:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: some stuff.
Message-ID: <199704060632.BAA27648@cliff.cris.com>
> I heard what kind of response the petition had and I am psyched.
>Something like 250,000 signatures! That is great!
Anybody actually read this thing called Ytsejam?
> Did anyone catch Geoff Tate on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher
>last night? How was it?
Anybody actually read this thing called Ytsejam?
I guess not.
-Rick
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 03:49:57 -0500 (EST)
From: 2112 <belhai@drew.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: some stuff.
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970406034928.711196303B-100000@drew.edu>
On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, Jeremy P. Kube wrote:
> Did anyone catch Geoff Tate on Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher
> last night? How was it?
Yes I saw it. Unfortunately, he did not say very much.
Brandon
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 01:48:59 -0800
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Ytse-Asshole of the month !!!
Message-ID: <199704060948.BAA29550@gms.gmsnet.com>
Hey Itchy... that sounds like a lot of work... good luck to you...
-The Doc
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 11:38:46 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2429 Message-ID: <199704061640.LAA18533@Walden.MO.NET>
> Derek said that Mike told them that Kevin Moore has moved to Costa Rica (I > think) and is currently digging up dinosaur bones. I am *not* makeing > this up (although I have not ruled out the possiblitly that Mike *is*), > and I'm sure that everyone else that was there remembers this because it > got a hell of a reaction from the crowd... Oh yeah, I remember that. I thought it was pretty hilarious. > You may hear some complaints eventually that "Derek was an asshole after > the clinic, man, I asked him for an autograph and he just said 'no, I'm > not signing that' and walked off!" As I saw this happen several times, I > can tell you that the second half is absolutely true. As for Derek being > an asshole, I would be quicker to say that the autograph-seekers were the > ones being assholes. An example? I'm talking to Derek about the Fix > shows, and someone walks up, pushes a CD (Live at the Marquee) towards > Derek and says "Will you sign this?" Derek looks at the CD, looks at the > guy, and says "No." As the guy walks off, mumbling under his breath, > Derek turns back and says "Why don't they just ask me to sign their Elvis > albums, I didn't play on those either..." Which is why I brought ACoS for > them to sign. :) I didn't get the chance to talk with him much afterward (though I did notice him with a jam shirt :). I do understand the sentiment, though. I eman, geez, if you're gonna have the guy sign something, at least let it be something he played on, and don't interrupt him while someone else is talking. Manners, people, manners.
> Another Derek highlight that most people who weren't at the clinic won't > get the full scope of... He was talking about something, and decided that > rather than talking, he should be playing, and when he pressed the keys, > the sound that came from the speakers was (judging from the > oh-my-god-in-heaven-what-the-fuck-did-I-just-do, whites-of-his-eyes > surprised look he got on his face) about 10 decibals higher than he had > expected. That look was priceless. Hehe :). > One thing that majorly sucked about the clinic: the bozos at McMurray > that organized it. I was told for weeks prior, and in fact the DAY OF, > that there would be no tapes, video or still cameras or any other type of > recording devices allowed at the clinics. Well, there was *no* security > there! They didn't even check to see if you had a ticket before letting > you in! And JP even said "If you have a tape recorder, go ahead and > record so you can try this stuff at home" which was met with several > grunts from the audience, who obviously shared the same feelings as I. > There was at least one guy there with a camcorder, and I would imagine a > few tapers as well (please email me!). Security was so loose there that > you could have walked up on stage, unplugged JP from his pre-amp, thrown > him - and his guitar - over your shoulder, walked out, put them both in > the trunk of your car, and driven off. Hell, one of the employees would > have followed you to the lot with the pre-amp saying "excuse me? Sir? > You forgot this..." Thanks to them, I have no tape of the clinic, and no > pics of DS or JP, much less myself with them. If anyone on the list works > for McMurray, please tell everyone I said 'fuck you'. :) Definitely agreed there. I didn't have many means (other than a huge-ass camcorder I couldn't sneak in if I tried) to record anything really, but I did notice a good amount of recording/camers devices there. I think one dude with a little camcorder was with the store (saw him the next day behind the desk in the main lobby), but I know I saw more than one recording device.
> Some other things that were met with shock/humor by the crowd were some of > John's comments while playing... He played some sort of 5/4 chromatic > scale thing, which seemed obtainable at first... then he played the same > thing at an obscenely fast pace for a bit, which was met with much jaw > dropping and salivating by the guitarist in the crowd (the difference > between this and their previous disposition seemed to be that their jaws > weren't dropped before). After finishing that, he said "Once you have > that down -" and didn't get much farther because of the laughter and cries > of frustration from the crowd. Or when he stressed that he was double-picking these fast runs, and how it'd be extrememly difficult to do it with downstrokes only, but that Jems Hetfield could probably do it (then went on to do some runs with downstrokes, mixing the Enter Sandman riff in between :).
> Also, who the fuck are all you people posting about the clinic, and why > didn't I meet any of you after the clinic!? I was there for at least a > half hour talking to Derek or getting something signed by John. Rip? I would've said something if I knew what you looked like (didn't see a jam shirt, though. I got there right before JP came on, so I wasn't there early. I did hang out some afterward, though). The only one who's appearance I was already familiar wiht was/is Rip's.
> Didn't even know you were there... you were probably one of the fourteen > year olds my cousin and I were making fun of. :) For some reason I doubt that since Rip looks a little older than his age (he's tall for his age :).
>A little people spotting for those of you at the clinic... see if >you remember these faces in the crowd: Sometimes the crowd provides enough entertainment in itself :). > Jesus - he was on the left side of the room, sitting in the aisle and > latter standing towards the back. He had on a blue shirt and bellbottoms. > Side note to anyone who knows an up and coming local band who needs a > name: Jesus Wears Bellbottoms. :) I think I remember this dude since I was on the left side, standing toward the back (no, this wasn't me. I don't wear bell-bottoms :). > The Kid from the ACoS cover - right side, inner aisle, I believe in a > maroon shirt. Yeah, I remember this one :). > Kip Winger - spotted him in the lobby, not sure if he was at the clinic or > not. I saw a number of glam boys there (and the next night at the Sheehan clinic). He probably worked for McMurray :). > Vinny, from Doogie Howser - on the right side, just past Derek. Hehe, that's hilarious :). > Al Bundy - right side, just past Derek. Had the look right down the the > shirt and unwashed hair... I saw a lot of those yesterday when Jake's Leg (local Grateful Dead tribute band) was playing. A lot of teenage neo-hippies. The band wasn't that bad for that style of music, though. > There were more, but I can't remember them all now... We were adequately > entertained by the look alikes in the room until the show started > though... I did the same thing. First thing I noticed was this dude wearing an old, faded Slaughter shirt. I think I went to high school with this guy :).
Dale R. Newberry
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