YTSEJAM Digest 2427
Today's Topics:
1) Re: fractions and stuff
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
2) speaking of "joint decision"
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2424
by "Jonathan Dery" <metropolis@net1plus.com>
4) RE: time sigs
by Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
5) Politically Incorrect
by Cygnus <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
6) Politically Inconspicuous
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
7) sig debate
by EricD91011@aol.com
8) Mercy F**k
by Cygnus <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
9) Re: sig debate
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
10) Re: Politically Inconspicuous
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
11) Re: Mercy F**k
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
12) Kevin's motivations
by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
13) Attention all Asian Studies majors!!!
by Polo Santos <ytse_jammer@mail.utexas.edu>
14) RE: JP/DS clinics
by Jeff Perrot <jperrot@siue.edu>
15) Web ring and stuff...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
16) Re: Fates Tour
by breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
17) Thank you for Savatage (NDTC)
by "Marco Bakker" <marco.bakker@tip.nl>
18) JP Video
by "Marco Bakker" <marco.bakker@tip.nl>
19) Disappointment/Victor II
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
20) Ytse-Asshole of the month !!!
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:58:03 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: fractions and stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970404235722.13621D-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, Rick Audet wrote:
> >OK, to settle it, I popped open my I&W guitar tab book and it says
> >>9/8<. OK? Nuff said. If you wanna argue it, write a letter to John
> >P. He edited the book for crimney's sake.
>
> Yeah, but he went to Berklee for a whole year.
but, as we all know, BERKLEE IS NO FU... oh, forget it.
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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:59:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: speaking of "joint decision"
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970404235141.18651B-100000@qbert.rs.itd.umich.edu>
interesting name for a band, corey (i think)
that reminds me....for anyone reading this before 12 PM saturday the 5th
of April, you're all welcome down to the Diag on the University of
Michigan campus in Ann Arbor, MI for little party they like to call the
Hash Bash.......I'm going to be far, far away, but y'all are still
welcome.....
that bit of news aside.....couple more thoughts on new QR
1) how come the cassette lines sez copyright 1996? Is that on the CD
liner as well?
2) About the song "Get a life": on r.m.a.q. there's some talk about some
huge fan club debacle, overzealous fans or something......dunno about
that, I thought they were talking about tabloids, and tabloid TV, folks
like Geraldo......especially with that camera click/exposure noise at the
end.....i figured they were doing a two song, antimedia rant with
"cuckoo's nest" and "get a life"
oh, and did i mention that I saw 2001 on a huge screen, in full 70 mm
glory (whatever that means) earlier this week, and I just got done seeing
Blues Brothers on a big screen as well? I'd say that's a pretty damn fine
week of movies (big screen), wouldn't you agree?
partha
"we're on a mission from god"
-elwood
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 00:10:05 -0500
From: "Jonathan Dery" <metropolis@net1plus.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2424
Message-ID: <3345DEAD.6928@net1plus.com>
> 2) In Burning My Soul, they really need to scrap the line "I say its
> green and you say its red". Ugh. And, will they retain the profanity
I agree with this. The exact lyric is "The grass is green and then you tell me it's
red. Keep your thoughts and ideas locked inside your head." I don't know. I know they
can write better lyrics than that. (Though the music is stellar as always.) As for the
"Shit" part, it sounded to me as if it was thrown in just to raise eyebrows.
> 3) Just let me breathe sounds like a forced song in the style of CIAW.
> Like they were put into a studio and told to write a song in one hour.
> It doesn't grow on me at all no matter how many times I "recall" the fix
> shows.
You're wrong. This song is great.
> > Hollow Years. i REAAAAALY hope to hear HY on the new disc, that one had my
> > spine in chills. :)
Can anyone out there describe to me what this one sounds like?
-Jon Dery
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 22:37:48 -0700
From: Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: time sigs
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970404223742.0069423c@onfire.net>
>well, if i DO know one thing, its that acos is only one measure long. yep.
>its in 463241631290748903124/53rds of course
>
Nice try, Rip, but as far as I know there is NO such thing as a 53rd note. : )
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Deep RUSH Thoughts:
It's too bad Rush decided to drop red balloons onto their audience during
the HOLD
YOUR FIRE tour because anvils would have been funnier.
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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:43:11 -0600 (CST)
From: Cygnus <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Politically Incorrect
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970404233803.29399A-100000@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>
Just saw Geoff Tate on PI. I was a little disappointed that he didn't
say much. In fact he only said one thing throughout. That sounds like
something I would do - sit back and observe. Still pretty cool
though...I guess. It's really the first time I've seen any member of a
band I listen to except in a video or something. So maybe I've been
given insights into his character. Anyway, I wonder if he'll be inspired
to write something after this experience. Do you think JLB will make any
appearance like this after the new album? :)
***Rob***
rctaylor@uiuc.edu
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 00:51:59 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Politically Inconspicuous
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970405004531.13766B-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
I can't believe I wasted a half hour of my life waiting to glean some
pearl of wisdom from the step-uncle of grunge. Except for one off-topic
comment about e-coli-tainted beef in Seattle, Geoff Tate sat in apparent
bewilderment and disillusionment at host Bill Maher and his fellow
panelists. The topics of conversation were obviously way over Geoff's
head, because he didn't even respond facially to anything. He looked
baked and bored, and that's kinda how I felt after enduring this show.
The high note of the broadcast: Tonight's PI poll (conducted among
audience members) asked which would you rather attend: Opera received 33%
of the vote, and Headbanger's Ball received 67%. Maybe someone at MTV was
watching and said to himself, "Hey, we used to have a show by that
name..."
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 00:54:57 -0500 (EST)
From: EricD91011@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: sig debate
Message-ID: <970405005456_417228127@emout19.mail.aol.com>
I am far from musical and basically have ignored the time sig. debate, but
for those that have the Portnoy Instructional video, doesn't he explain his
parts on Surrounded? And doesn't he say they are 5/4? I know he talks about
his thoughts on at some point. Perhaps he is playing one sig and the band
another? Perhaps that could settle the debate. Take the time.
-Eric
"I wanted to find an innocent mind, but only find myself waiting" Kevin Moore
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Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:58:33 -0600 (CST)
From: Cygnus <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mercy F**k
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970404235529.29399B-100000@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>
I have a question. Someone can privately e-mail me because I'm probably
the only one in the dark about this. What exactly is "Mercy F**k"? What
I gather is that it is some version of ACOS. Do they use the term in the
lyrics and if so where? Just curious.
***Rob***
rctaylor@uiuc.edu
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:32:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: sig debate
Message-ID: <199704050632.BAA24509@cliff.cris.com>
At 10:07 PM 4/4/97 -0800, you wrote:
>I am far from musical and basically have ignored the time sig. debate, but
>for those that have the Portnoy Instructional video, doesn't he explain his
>parts on Surrounded? And doesn't he say they are 5/4?
Ahh, but once again we are reminded that he too went to Berklee for a whole
year. Wow, a WHOLE friggin' YEAR!
-Rick
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:35:33 EST
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Politically Inconspicuous
Message-ID: <19970404.223703.14550.17.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
They still have Headbanger's Ball in Europe. here in America
we don't have shit at the moment. I have a weird feeling that's
going to change. I have no rational reasoning for this thought,
just a feeling.
Scott
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On Fri, 4 Apr 1997 21:57:10 -0800 (PST) The Digital Man
<cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> writes:
>The high note of the broadcast: Tonight's PI poll (conducted among
>audience members) asked which would you rather attend: Opera received
>33%
>of the vote, and Headbanger's Ball received 67%. Maybe someone at MTV
>was
>watching and said to himself, "Hey, we used to have a show by that
>name..."
>
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 02:24:43 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Mercy F**k
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970405022306.13921A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, Cygnus wrote:
> I have a question. Someone can privately e-mail me because I'm probably
> the only one in the dark about this. What exactly is "Mercy F**k"? What
> I gather is that it is some version of ACOS. Do they use the term in the
> lyrics and if so where? Just curious.
just to clear this up once more (and if someone asks again, it's going in
the damned faq)
album version: "i don't need your sympathy to get me thru the day"
birch hill 6/9/95: "i don't need your mercy fuck to get..."
birch hill 12/29/95: "i don't need your fucking shit to get me..."
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 23:26:26 -0800
From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kevin's motivations
Message-ID: <199704050714.XAA16139@ichips.intel.com>
Someone said about Kevin:
>But there's a certain magic to Images and Words that I really missed.
>Until I heard the new Fates, that is.
Could some kind souls out there that have heard the new Fates album
elaborate on this a bit? I kind of freaked when I heard that Kevin's
work on the new Fates album reminded people of I&W, especially when
everybody had been led to believe he wasn't interested in that type
of music anymore.
The reason I'm curious about this is because I've entertained a pet
theory off and on for a while now about Kev's true motivation. Whenever
I take a step back and look at all of Dream Theater's albums as a whole,
I see a pattern emerge. At one end of the spectrum we have WDADU,
which is the most "proggy" of their released albums. At the other end
of the spectrum we have Awake, which is the heaviest of their albums
(it certainly contains some complex prog elements, but there are far
more straightforward song elements and places where JP simply cranks
up the 7-string and lets the balls and chunks fly). Then we have I&W,
which I think lies in about the middle, and combined progressive and
metal in such a way that I don't think will ever be matched again.
Granted, this isn't very wide of a spectrum, and I'm not saying that
WDADU isn't heavy or that Awake isn't proggy, but when I listen to
the enormous influence that Kevin had on WDADU, and then the greatly
reduced influence he had on Awake, I can't help but wonder if it was
this aspect of the band's direction that he disagreed with. Instead
of doing slightly-funky-slightly-experimental things in their songs,
they were taking a more straightforward approach.
The reason I mention this now is because I've heard how the new material
doesn't sound as complex or proggy (I haven't heard the new material,
so take all this with a big fat grain of salt). This would continue
to conform to this trend. The only thing wrong with this theory is
Kevin's solo material, which would suggest he got tired of the entire
genre altogether. But now that I hear about the new Fates album, and
how Kevin seems to be back to his old tricks, I've started wondering
about this again.
Could it be that his solo material is simply one way of continuing
the experimental, "out-there" style of song-writing he craves? Perhaps
Dream Theater simply wasn't being daring enough anymore, and the style
of music he had on his solo demos simply reflected the best music he
could produce on his own while still being something completely different
(I doubt he would try to write Metropolis Pt. II with a sequencer).
When he heard FW was going to record a nifty 55-minute song, perhaps
this daring style of metal was just what he was looking for. So
where many of us thought that Kevin had moved on to different musical
desires, perhaps it was the other way around and Kevin saw that DT
was starting to move away from the wild, cutting-edge stuff they did
in their early days.
Or maybe he just needed to eat. 8^)
Of course this is all extremely wild speculation, and remember that
there are rampant IMHOs placed throughout this wherever I refer to my
view of previous albums, but I would really like to hear a more
in-depth analysis of Kevin's contribution on the new Fates album.
Does it really bring back memories of I&W? Does he really sound like
his old self? Because if he does, then I think it just proves that
not a one of us have any idea what's going on in that poor boy's head. 8^)
Ok, enough rambling, sorry for the length, opinions welcome, flames
promptly ignored.
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:42:27 -0600 From: Polo Santos <ytse_jammer@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Attention all Asian Studies majors!!! Message-ID: <33460263.45C5@mail.utexas.edu>
Ya know, it's really late right now, had a tough day, and I'm really tired. So you can imagine how pissed I am that I can't get to sleep cause this thing just started bugging me out of no where. This question has prolly never been asked, at least not while I've been here, which is a coupla months, so it wouldn't really qualify as frequently asked, but what the fuck, if anything, does that Japanese(?) writing on KevMo's keyboard stand on the Live in Tokyo vid mean? I WAS gonna send this to D-Man, but I figure the jam would be more appropriate, so there it is...
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 02:03:16 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Perrot <jperrot@siue.edu> To: Ytsejammers <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: JP/DS clinics Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970405015517.8995B-100000@cougar>
>Oh man, that was funny. I think he had a speech impediment, though, >and not an accent. And yes, this guy did mention being a bass >player. Too funny. Actually, I thought he almost looked like Lars
Hey dudes, that guy is me!!! ...JUST KIDDING! I had a great time at the clinics, but I wish I could have met more people. Did you see this same guy headbanging to a couple of the songs? He was really getting into it. I think he forgot where he was at. I would have liked to see him play bass and keep up with them. Anyway, I was the guy wearing the the generic green Levi's shirt in case anyone noticed me.
Can't wait for the new album!!!
Jeff Perrot
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 02:55:13 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Web ring and stuff... Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970405025121.12223A-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>
Sorry about this reply if it's been covered, I'm about 30 jams behind... Anyway, Nuggetman mentioned the web ring he's doing, and he said something about the graphics on my Ytsejam shirt page. I just wanted to clear up that the front graphic on the front was printed from a rendering done by Chris Hailey in Washington. I do do graphic design and some 3D rendering, but that one was not mine. If you want to see some of what I've done, the URL's in my sig. I'd be happy to do a ring logo if one hasn't been made, but if you're looking for something rendered, talk to chris, I don't have the time to devote to modeling right now. Let me know...
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 07:14:30 GMT From: breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg) Subject: Re: Fates Tour Message-ID: <ubk9milz55.fsf@fusebox.hanse.de>
Hi All,
Cool thanks for posting the Fates Warning tour dates.
Kevin> 6/12 Hamburg Germany Markthalle 1200
Kevin> Anybody live near any of these places?
Lets see. Walk out the front door of my apartment. Take a left turn. Walk up the street about 1 block. Turn left again. Walk about 1 block more. Turn left walk about 100 meters go up some stairs and there you are. The front door of the Markthalle! All without waiting for any lights or anything *grin*. Yeah I guess I do live close *evil grin*.
Anyone crazy enough to fly to Germany to see the tour drop me a line. My apartment is quite big and I might be able to put 1-2 people up for the show.
Also about FW touring with Conception and Elegy. I have heard semi-official word from people in the know that on August 28th here in Hamburg Stratovarius will start their tour. The co-headliner will be Conception and the opener will be Elegy. So I don't know about these 2 bands being with FW, but who knows.
Of course there are also rumors about Strat and Gamma Ray but Gamma Ray is a long way from finishig the album (only one song recorded) so who knows about this tour either *shrug*.
5 days until DT in Nuernberg and then Munich! See some of you there.
Jason -- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 13:17:34 +0200 From: "Marco Bakker" <marco.bakker@tip.nl> To: "Prog Music Fans (DT)" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Thank you for Savatage (NDTC) Message-ID: <m0wDTVR-000DldC@parijs.tip.nl>
Hi,
Via this list I became curious about Savatage. So I bought Handful of Rain. What a great band; gotta have more!
Marco Bakker
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 13:14:31 +0200 From: "Marco Bakker" <marco.bakker@tip.nl> To: "Prog Music Fans (DT)" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: JP Video Message-ID: <m0wDTVP-000DlVC@parijs.tip.nl>
Hi guys,
In a magazine I read an advertisement of a JP Guitar Instructional Video. Is it any good, and is it two hours, as stated in that ad?
Marco Bakker
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:03:44 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'The YtseSpam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Disappointment/Victor II Message-ID: <01BC41CA.DED60B20@Checkov.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
George Kirk about the new QR :
> WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT. I'm so angry, I'll get into it later.
I was also disappointed (not angry). I TOO got into it later ;-) Listened to it 25 times in 7 days :-) Hated it at first, liked it after 3 listens, got hooked on it after about 10 (I think). My guess is a lot of people hate it when they first hear it, and immediately bitch about it on the Jam... Later, some of them get into it but never have to balls to say they were wrong. People who love Dream Theater should know you can't judge an album on a first listen, or a band on (part of) one album. _____
Pat Daugherty about James on Victor II : ZAch wrote:
>> What is this? Did I miss this in skipping a few 'jams like >> I have been? I know he joked about it in the latest DTIFC >> update, but was he really serious? > > That is what I am trying to figure out. Why would he say he is doing > it in the first place? Why joke about it? The interviewer could have > had him elaborate on the subject but why didn't he?
I'm not with DTIFC, so I haven't read the actual interview. I think it could be that James was joking about working with Alex Lifeson, because of how much Rush was against the Rush tribute "Working Man". Just a thought.
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:04:13 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'The YtseSpam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ytse-Asshole of the month !!! Message-ID: <01BC41CA.ED99A540@Checkov.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
I posted about starting a Ytse-Asshole form on my homepage, a few days (or a lot of digests) ago. I just set it up, so check it out :-) I really hope this will take some of the flaming off this list. Not that I'm expecting it, but you never know until you try :-> Here's what I put on my page as an introduction. You might wanna read it first, before voting :-)
> About this page > > A mailinglist should be a place where fans exchange opinions on their > favourite band/artist and related topics. Instead, a lot of people on > the Ytsejam have chosen to regularly turn the list into a warzone.... > > To try and make the Ytsejam a friendlier place, I came up with the > following idea. Instead of flaming someone directly on the list, you > come to this page and enter the digestnumber, From: and Subject: line > of the post you disagree with. After that, you enter a short comment > (80 characters, use them wisely). You can comment anonymously if you > want. In that case, I'll keep your identity a secret. > > Every month, I will put together a list of the people who got flamed > on this page, the amount of flames they got, the post(s) they got > flamed for and the comments people entered. This page will kick some > seriously ass ! (literally) Also, I will mail the list of flames to > the person who got them. > > How to enter your vote > > Voting is simple. Just come to this page and make sure you have the > digest with the post you want to submit. First, enter your name and > email address. I will keep both of them confidential if you decide > to flame anonymously. Next, enter the number of the digest. I will > use that to compile the monthly Ytse-Asshole list. For instance, > March consisted of digests 2309 through 2409. The next two fields are > VERY important. This is where you enter your vote for Ytse-asshole, > using the digest. All you have to do is copy and paste the From: > and Subject: line into these fields. Here's an example. Let's say > someone posted a message with the following header : > > From: flame@bait.com (Ima S. Hole) > Subject: YOU ALL FUCKING SUCK !!! > > To vote for this post, copy 'flame@bait.com (Ima S. Hole)' into the > From: field and 'YOU ALL FUCKING SUCK !!!' into the Subject: field. > That's all there is to it. One more thing... If you flame someone > on this page, please refrain from doing the same on the Ytsejam. > Your point will get across much better when accompanied by other > people's comments, sent directly to the person you're flaming.
The form can be found on http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/ from now on. Right now, it's just an experiment. I might take it down next month, if no one's interested. We'll see...
Mark, Ytse-mom :-) ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ Would someone please let me know how we _ _____ ___ _ _ __ __ have spun out of control ? |:||_.:._|/:._]|:]_[:|\.\_/./ Has the captain let go of the wheel ? |:| |:| (.:(_ |:___:| \_::/ (Queensryche - Sign of the Times) |_| [_] \___]|_] [_| [__/ _________________________________________________________________________ Itchy's Homepage - http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/
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