YTSEJAM Digest 2414
Today's Topics:
1) DT on Addventure
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
2) Pantera on Letterman?
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2413
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
4) Opening Band for Def Leppard
by al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Marcelo Martinelli)
5) Happy April Fools' Day!
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2413
by fish69@juno.com (James D Carey)
7) Dumb prog lyrics etc.
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
8) symphony x
by mwal@econ.vu.nl
9) NDTC - Joke
by Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
10) Space-dye vest
by satu.reunanen@sci.fi (Satu Reunanen)
11) Re: true fans.....bingo!!!!
by breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
12) James Labrie and Alex Lifeson
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
13) Re: true fans.....bingo!!!!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
14) EUROPE vs AMERICA
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
15) WORLD PREMIER! - NEW FATES CLIP!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
16) Viper / Angra
by vanzin@dks.com.br
17) Bombay Vindaloo/QR like fungus
by Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2413
by Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
19) Savatage/Killer Dwarves/Queensryche
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
20) Re: Viper / Angra
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 22:19:41 -0800 (PST)
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT on Addventure
Message-ID: <199704020619.WAA18348@f7.hotmail.com>
In case anyone's interested, I allowed a DT link on one of my Addventure
episodes.
If you want to create or extend that storyline, follow the following URL:
http://www.addventure.com/addventure/game3/episode/9916.html
By the way, the Blues Brothers fans will enjoy the obvious references within.(I
decided to expound when I saw "Bob's Country Bunker. :-) )
Enjoy!
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame.
Don't you see life's a game?
So take hold of the flame.
You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensrÿche-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 23:56:15 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Pantera on Letterman?
Message-ID: <199704020656.XAA41202@lucia.u.arizona.edu>
Hey,
I heard a rumor tonight that Pantera has just recently been or is
going to be on Letterman sometime soon. If anyone has any info, please mail
me back and let me know. Thanks.
Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
If you're a heshian, headbangin' metalhead,
check out: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 02:03:34 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2413
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970402014502.138642B@elk.uvm.edu>
On Tue, 1 Apr 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
> Things I hate about playing live
> -As a bass player, I never, ever get my own monitor.
>
Try being a drummer. The PA is always in front of you and I'm usually not
lucky enough to get little tiny monitors. So what ends up happening is
that you can't hear the rest of the band, so you have to focus that much
harder on not screwing up.
-"Oh we can only pay $500 tonight. Come back tomorrow for the other $200."
This can be easily avoided. Sign a contract. Bring it to the gig and when
the owner gets cute, wave it in his or her face. If the cuteness
persists, refuse to play and threaten to sue. Trust me, the owners have
the money. Owners rely on the noise a band makes to draw people in. No
noise= no people = no money. A quick word: don't accept partial payment
if you want to sue. It's all or nothing.
> -Playing in the winter at clubs with no heat.
Well, having played every gig in my life in L.A. this was never an issue.
But here in Vermont, it's April and we've just had another storm.
No they didn't, and I'm sure if they did.. there would be far
> less bands out there. But if ya want to release an album and not
> break contract, than ya have to satisfy the big dogs. What, you think a
> band writes and records an album and then BAM! It goes into post
> production? Nope, sorry, not the way it works. That album is heavily
scrutinized and listened to by the record company management, and if
> he/she/they doesn't like it or it doesn't think it will sell, then ya
> go back to the drawing board..and this process keeps going on until the
> band produces something that fits the criteria or sounds a bit more like
> what they're looking for.
>
Not necessarily true. It depends on the contract. Most do have to conform
to what you're saying, but it is entirely possible that a band of
Queensryche's stature has this option reduced to the delivered recordings
must be satisfying from a techincal standpoint (ie. not recorded w/ a
boombox in your garage) rather than an artistic standpoint, which is what
you are referring to. But you never know. A quick question: I haven't
heard HiTNF, but is it that hard to believe that Queensryche
wanted to put out an album like this? Why are people assuming that it is
the record company's fault that the album is different?
Richie
>
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 02:08:30 -0600
From: al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Marcelo Martinelli)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Opening Band for Def Leppard
Message-ID: <9704020808.AA09458@campus.cegs.itesm.mx>
Hi , I just wanted to let everyone know that my band "ceres" is
opening today the Def Leppard concert here in Monterrey , Mexico for more
than 10,000 fans! I'm really psyched about it and just wanted to let
everybody know. I will post later after the concert to tell how everything
went with opening for one of the most influential bands of the 80's.
Marcelo Martinelli
Monterrey , Mexico
-It dawned on me one day that I should not be making sandwiches for a living-
---John Petrucci---
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 03:15:45 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Happy April Fools' Day!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970402031335.8125A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
Well, I hope that everybody got a chance to enjoy my sick, dememted brand
of humor yesterday. Those of you that didn't can still see what I
temporarily replaced the faq with at...
http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/aprilfools97.html
Enjoy! Warning: all flames are automatically sent to /dev/null.
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 02:39:32 PST
From: fish69@juno.com (James D Carey)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2413
Message-ID: <19970402.023935.10151.0.fish69@juno.com>
Doc Spewed this message in issue 2413:
>True Fans are people who know when a band goes to hell...
>HAHAHHA
>QR has sold us True Fans out... that's a fact, not an opinion...
>-The Doc
The only fact here is the fact that you're one of many fans who
got their own hopes and dreams up that the band was going to release
MindCrime II, and since they didn't you feel like you've been betrayed,
cheated and perhaps stabbed in the back by none other than the
Anti-Christ himself... Well let me clue ya in on something Doc. There
will NOT be another Operation: MindCrime-esque album.. get over it,
quit your bitchin and deal. The band has taken it's music forward into
a different direction. So if they did infact sold-out.. then did Rush
when they released Test For Echo, or did Metallica when they did Black,
or how about Pearl Jam for Vitalogy, or maybe Fatez when they released
Inside Out.. Hell, even DT when they released Awake.. Cause it seems
by your arguement, that whenever a band changes their sound for whatever
reasons, they have "sold-out". If that's the case, I hope alot of
other bands sell out... because I'm really diggin the tunes then. ..
Later
-ArchAngel
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 97 11:01:55 +0200
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
Subject: Dumb prog lyrics etc.
Message-ID: <9704020901.AA00254@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I was having a bit of a nostalgia night yesterday (ain't what it used to be),
and I think I came across what must be the dumbest lyrics to be found in any
prog song. Are you all sitting comfortably? Here goes:
DOO-D'N-DOO-DIT, DAH, D'T-D'T-DAH (that's what is says in the lyric sheet)
Insipired stuff, I'm sure you'll all agree. So who is the prospective Nobel
prize winner? Stand up Jon Anderson! Just goes to back up my view that Yes
(classic Yes, anyway) wrote some of my favourite music of all times, but had
some of the most inane, crappy lyrics I ever heard anywhere.
As for Roger Dean being a good artist. Piss artist, possibly. All of his covers
look like they belong on some tacky cheap science fiction novel that you'd
normally find in the bargin bin at the super market checkout. Best thing he ever
did was design that old Yes logo.
Not that I really care about the artwork on any album too much. When I read some
of the discussions on this list about things like the significance of the brokenmirror in the upper left hand corner of the cover, you know, just
behind the third feather of the eagle standing on the hour glass, then I wonder
what sort of lives some people have. Maybe it's just me, but I've usually got
other things to do.
Anybody else out there like Moonspell and Samael? Then you could try listening
to the album 'The Other Side' by the Swiss band Alastis (another Swiss band
other than MT20 mentioned on the list). Produced by Waldemar Sorychta (who else)
the music sounds like Moonspell and Samael got involved in a really ugly car
smash. My other current recommendation for those of you who like your music a
bit darker and gloomier is the album 'Dol Guldur' by Summoning. Keyboards
dominate, glockenspiels come and go and you start to think "new age" - until the
brutal guitar riffs and the almost black metal vocals burst in. Sort of like
Tiamat meets Dissection or Cradle Of Filth. Apparently the album is based on
Tolkien's book 'Lord Of The Rings', but it's hard to tell. Interesting aside:
according to the liner notes, it only took 3 days to record the whole album.
If anybody is interested in watching a film that doesn't involve the earth being
invaded by slimey green creatures and doesn't rely on special effects that cost
as much as a small country's gross national product, then go and check out 'The
English Patient'. Being awarded a whole bag of Oscars often means that a film
sucks, but this film is the exception. Good actors, a very good story (and
screenplay), and some wonderful scenic shots all add up to make a very moving
and unforgetable film (but don't forget the tissues).
Only sixteen days until Dream Theater play Gross Umstadt, but the waiting will
be shortened by Heavenwood, Lake Of Tears and Theatre Of Tragedy on the 12th of
April in Offenbach. Then Threshold in Offenbach on the 19th as well...
And if any of you were wondering where the wonderful Yes lyrics can be heard,
try Siberian Khatru on the album Close To The Edge (still amazing what Steve
Howe used to do with that pedal steel guitar - perhaps that guy from Dream
Theater could try it, what is his name, Mike Moore? Kevin Petrucci?)
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Lemur Voice - Insights
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 97 12:43:58 +0100
From: mwal@econ.vu.nl
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: symphony x
Message-ID: <vines.Y+I8+rPYEnA@ecu.econ.vu.nl>
Hello jammers,
does anyone know a reliable store where I can order the symphony x cd's?Here
in Holland, I can't find them.
Private email please.
thanks
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Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:22:51 -0800
From: Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC - Joke
Message-ID: <33433EAB.3DAB@connexus.apana.org.au>
How do you make a guitarist turn down ?
put sheet music in front of him...
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:55:59 +0300 (EET DST)
From: satu.reunanen@sci.fi (Satu Reunanen)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Space-dye vest
Message-ID: <199704021155.OAA06721@id4.sci.fi>
Good evening (or whatever) creeps !
I was wondering is there anyone here who is
able to hear this high sound in Space-dye vest ?
It starts around where that man starts speaking and
ends about the same time he stops speaking. I can't
hear it (not that high), but there it is. I heard it's
hard to get rid of those sounds if you put parts from
movies on cd's ? Few other cd's have it too. I'm glad
I can't hear that well or it would spoil my favesong !
I can hear up to 16 kHz, that sound must be somewhere
around 17 or 18 kHz. My boyfriend hears it(up to 18),
but his ears aren't as damaged as mine.. check it out !
Satu
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:04:42 GMT
From: breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
Subject: Re: true fans.....bingo!!!!
Message-ID: <ub3et9aj85.fsf_-_@fusebox.hanse.de>
Doc> True Fans are people who know when a band goes to hell...
Doc> HAHAHHA
Doc> QR has sold us True Fans out... that's a fact, not an
Doc> opinion...
The Doc has made the correct diagnosis. I was warning people of this
when I had the advance copy of the QR like 2 months ago. Now the
truth is know to the whole world! And yes I will stick with Burger
King as well. ;)
Jason
-- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR------------------------------
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 08:15:32 -0500 (EST) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: James Labrie and Alex Lifeson Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970402081321.22006C-100000@bdmserver>
Doesn't anyon care about anything but this Europe vs US feud?
James Labrie in the latest DTIFC newsletter said he is doing the new Victor album.
Doesn't anyone have any comments on this or know any more information?
Maybe even Neil Elliott? I think he did the interview.
Anyone????
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 05:32:27 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: true fans.....bingo!!!! Message-ID: <199704021332.FAA03980@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, Jason T. Breitweg said: > >The Doc has made the correct diagnosis. I was warning people of this >when I had the advance copy of the QR like 2 months ago. Now the >truth is know to the whole world! And yes I will stick with Burger >King as well. ;) >
You know, I like Burger King too... but 99 cent Big Macs can't be beat... when they do have em that is... You know, even though I may not buy the new QR album, I'll probably end up supporting them by going to see them on tour. Hopefully they will offer taper tickets again!!!
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 05:35:16 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: EUROPE vs AMERICA Message-ID: <199704021335.FAA03997@gms.gmsnet.com>
Well, I'm an American... I live in Amerca... but I must say, AMERICA SUCKS!!! Why are all the good prog-bands playing in EUROPE??? There... we just lost the feud man!!!
I'll tell you why, it's people like Ripzero and Ben supporting the alternafags...heh...
-The Doc p.s. for all you really BLIND people.. it was a J-O-K-E...
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 06:05:13 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WORLD PREMIER! - NEW FATES CLIP! Message-ID: <199704021405.GAA04154@gms.gmsnet.com>
Alright, here it is ladies and gentlemen... a new fates warning audio clip has been added to the page!! Go to the URL below... and check out the audio clips section!
Thanks goes out to MADMAX...
The audio clip is in Real Audio 3.0 format...
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 11:03:48 -0300 From: vanzin@dks.com.br To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Viper / Angra Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.17.4.2.11.3.48.2579404677.649768@dks.com.br>
Hey there!
YT>------------------------------ YT> Also, did I read somewhere correctly that VIPER is the previous name YT>of ANGRA? If so, how is the VIPER stuff compared to ANGRA? Anyone have any YT>of their albums under that name? Info? Anyone? Thanks. YT>------------------------------
Ooops!!! Viper is the former band of Andre Matos, vocalist of Angra, and that's all. Their sound is VERY different from Angra. Their old stuff (as in the "Evolution" album) is Heavy Metal, and some songs are really cool. The newer stuff, well, that's really horrible. :) They started to sing in portuguese (nothing against that, but the lyrics are TERRIBLE), and they changed to a more pop/soft sound. If you want to see them with André Matos, I think that there is one album, that I don't know the name. The Evoltuion one is cool, but the others ("Coma Rage", and this new one) are not good at all. Ah, and of course, IMHO.
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:25:26 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bombay Vindaloo/QR like fungus Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.970402092028.11242C-100000@christa.unh.edu>
Hello all! First off, I heard awhile ago from somewhere that the song Bombay Vindaloo was recorded for a compilation album of some sort. I think it was for a guitar compilation. I can't remember for the life of me where I DID hear it, but I know I heard it somewhere. As for the new QR, I can't get it out of my cd player. I love it! I do enjoy Empire and O:M a lot better still, but the harmonies and rhythms are awesome. The only problem that i have with HitNF, is that there are no really good, flashy guitar solos. Everything else is absolutely awesome! I just wish they put a little more than 5 or 6 bended notes per solo! That's the grungiest part of the album. Take care all! Tony
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:33:36 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2413 Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.970402093226.11242D-100000@christa.unh.edu>
Hi there! Sorry, I thought that I heard from somewhere that Fates had left Metal Blade. I think I read the transcript of the Matheos Q&A session on the IRC. I thought that's what he said. Sorry for the confusion. Tony
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 97 09:52 EST From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Savatage/Killer Dwarves/Queensryche Message-ID: <m0wCRP5-0006RMC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Someone was talking about writing a letter to MTV and to tell them to bring back music like Savatage, Dream Theater and Queensryche when I thought to myself, doesn't Savatage have a home video with all their MTV style videos on it? And I thought, why, yes, they do. Now, does anyone know how the hell I can get it. I'll never see these videos on eMpTyV and its really important for me to see some of these Savatage videos.
As for the Killer Dwarfs, my God, I used to love that song Drifting Back. Does anyone know where I can find a realaudio,wav or au file for this song?
Final words about Queensryche- they rock when they want to and they can do what they want. Granted, I don't like it all but how can someone not like songs like spOOL, Saved, You and All I Want. Also, can anyone tell me a tracklist/review of the Queensryche bootleg, Silent Lucidity- this is not a single- its a bootleg with MTV unplugged and a 1990 performance on it. Anyhow, I'd like info on it if available.
Thanks
Don mcauburn@iinc.com soulmadness@hotmail.com (for people sending pics, sound files, etc.)
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 23:53:30 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Viper / Angra Message-ID: <199704021453.XAA05538@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp>
Hey 'Jammers.
I gotta tell ya something about Viper.
Andre Matos (Angra) was on their 1st and 2nd album. The first one was "Soldiers Of The Light" and the 2nd one was "Theatre Of Fate". SOTL album was so called Iron Maiden meets Helloween sound. And TOF had more melodic and speed metal things on it,maybe I should use the words Japanimation Metal. the high-light of this disc was heavy metal cover verision of famous classic song "Moonlight".
Thanks.
Latest 3 CDs in my player.
1.TNT: Tell No Tales 2.Fair Warning: Go 3.Redd Kross: Show World -Keiji Nishihara Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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