YTSEJAM Digest 2409
Today's Topics:
1) US Educational System
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
2) calling to arms...
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
3) Re: Listening to new DT material-WHERE!!??!!
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
4) My final word on this thread :)
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
5) Re: regarding the recent debate....
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
6) DT, Michael Sweet, HitNF
by Cygnus <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
7) DTIFC today
by EricD91011@aol.com
8) George Bast Please e-mail me
by Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
9) DT FAQ Updated
by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@SpiritOne.com>
10) Re: Sucking
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
11) DT does NOT approve of my CD projects... but...
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
12) mp3-Bootlegs of the new stuff
by Alexander Honnef <honnef@cs.uni-bonn.de>
13) 1. april rumour's about Dream Theater meet up with Tony Braxton
by Alexander Honnef <honnef@cs.uni-bonn.de>
14) Misc Ramblings by the commited!
by fish69@juno.com (James D Carey)
15) new fates (semi-DTC)
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
16) RE: Great Concept Albums
by "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
17) Howard Stern's dad a DT fan?
by ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD <is01133@mis.finchcms.edu>
18) Re: This entire country thread
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:35:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: US Educational System
Message-ID: <199704010435.XAA24443@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
I have to say that the US is definately on the right track. I know that in
my state, I have a Governor that is dedicated to somehow improving the
education level in the state.
If Bob Dole had been elected President, the department of education
would be no more and we wouldn't have student loans from the Government.
Also, we wouldn't be able to improve at all.
I have to say that we may not be the best in education, but we are
really trying. Clinton's personal life might be on it's low, but he is
education minded.
I would seriously like to know why foreigners choose the US to
matriculate.
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:36:10 -0600
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: calling to arms...
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970401043610.0081ea44@mail.inlink.com>
>
> >When a lot of other
>>countries have a disaster the first thing they do is call America.
>
>I thought America was two continents and not a country.
so who you gonna call?
Ghost bustaz!!!!!!
thats right, a little PK reading and plasma blasts should take care of an
angered nation for a while.. we just need positive slime! think POSITIVE!
like, right now, i'm positive this sucks :)
i'm also positive that if the new Dream Theater rocks me as much as the new
Queensryche (which it does) its gonna be a spiffy time in the ol' town. try
this one on for size: jp incorporating some Tom Morello a la rage against
the machine styles into his playing. i fookin' love it!
~Rip
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:27:17 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Listening to new DT material-WHERE!!??!!
Message-ID: <199704010439.UAA00699@odin.ax.com>
> On YTSEJAM 2404, someone said that they had listened to some of the new DT
> material. Where did he do it, and where can I go to hear it?
>
> Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
SHUSH!
Quiet! I can't bear anymore!
(Where've ya been by the way?)
No more fuses!
KorgX3 a.k.a. ibanez@cyberhighway.net
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez/index.html
Disclaimer:
The content expressed in the previous document is
not the opinion of the author. The author is exonerated
of anything written therein. Viewer discretion is
advised.
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:46:01 EST
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My final word on this thread :)
Message-ID: <19970331.204631.4678.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
Here I go and I promise I'll stop provided I'm not personally attacked.
My quiz wasn't fair and I know it; I did it because someone got all
upset because some Americans don't know where some countries
are located. Try to remember that most countries in Europe are
smaller than a lot of States here and a lot of us can't tell you where
the States are at. I heard that some people think that North Dakota
still uses the horse & Buggy.
I really didn't mean I don't like Europe, I love it there. When I got
home I even defended the French. A lot of the Stereotypes I heard
about Europe were not true at all. Someday soon I plan on going
back for at least a month so I get to see more (we were only there
10 days last time.)
The reason I get so defensive is that a lot of people really enjoy
bashing
America every chance they get (Hi Graham), but when the times get tough
America is usually the first place they call.
That's enough from me and I'll shut up now. If y'all want to continue
this
thread please do, but it's really starting to bore me.
Scott
********************************************************************
What do a nearsighted gynecologist and a puppy
have in common?
A wet nose!
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:38:24 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: regarding the recent debate....
Message-ID: <199704010450.UAA00806@odin.ax.com>
> i'm starting my own country because ALL of yours suck.
>
> it shall be known as Suckhole.
Woo! I'm there. :)
Hey, all!
For all of you new age/jazz lovers out there, I just picked up a kewl
one that a friend found the other day. It's by some chick named
Keiko MatsuiL Dream Walk. I must say, I rather enjoy it. Kinda like
Yanni with a jazz flavor. Kinda reminiscent of a cross between Yanni
and Kenny G I guess.
Also, I hope none of you who had problems ordering from Knights of
the Round's website tried ordering anywhere else. I just got my
confirmation letter today. It must have been an act of God that
phone call couldn't make it through to impulse.
Now just watch their site screw up my order and I get 50 copies of
Lawrence Welk's greatest hits from Europe charged on my card. :P
I'd have to burn fix dubs over the top of them and sell them at $25
apiece to make up the difference. :) (This is just a joke)
KorgX3 a.k.a. ibanez@cyberhighway.net
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez/index.html
Disclaimer:
The content expressed in the previous document is
not the opinion of the author. The author is exonerated
of anything written therein. Viewer discretion is
advised.
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:54:48 -0600 (CST)
From: Cygnus <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT, Michael Sweet, HitNF
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970331223729.9867B-100000@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>
> They used to have a Headbangers Ball a few years
> back that played DT a few times, they even had some of them on as a
This is where I made my discovery of them! Does anyone think a load of
e-mails will get them to do something about the video situation? I'm
game.
Are there any other fans of Stryper/Michael Sweet out there? I got
Michael Sweet's 2nd album Real. It is as mellow as the first solo album.
I love it though. IMHO Michael Sweet has one of the most emotive voices.
That's why I'm such a fan of his. I just like singers in the high range
for some reason - like Mike Majitevic of Steelheart - now he's hit notes
higher than any other man I've heard!
Also got HitNF last Tuesday. That is the same day my inbox filled up so I
missed about a weeks worth of jams including all the dicussion on HitNF.
I love the album. I can see how there may be disappointment because (as
someone stated) some alterna-type riffs. I see much more QR in it though.
I even hear a little Saigon Kick like KorgX3 said (a week ago). The songs
that have already made a big name for themselves in my eyes are "Saved,"
"You," and (of course) "sp00L." I just found it humorous that my friend
said, "I can't believe you're listening to popular music," because he has
heard "Sign of the Times" on the radio. :)
***Rob***
rctaylor@uiuc.edu
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 00:22:18 -0500 (EST)
From: EricD91011@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DTIFC today
Message-ID: <970401002217_1716844526@emout18.mail.aol.com>
Got the latest copy today (well done as always Neil) and was struck by one
comment from James about the new album... only about eight or nine songs.
Albeit the songs are long and whatnot, but with what 14 or 15 that they have
I wonder how that would work. The six he mentioned that would most likely
make it were the five from the fix shows and Trail of Tears. Where are you
now I think will also make it, but really that is not very many. So unless
b-sides are prevalant, we may never hear some of this stuff. ***Also one
mroe important question*** Does anyone think Derek cannot be heard when they
play live. All the boots I have of the Awake shows, Derek is so buried and
as opposed to Kevin very hard to distinguish. His sound does not separate
from John P very well at all (and his rendition of UaGM is horrible in my
opinion). I've always wondered if it is just me or what. My ear is far from
musical so someone please help me out. Thanks and take the time.
-Eric
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 06:30:18 +0000
From: Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: George Bast Please e-mail me
Message-ID: <19970401063013.AAB20886@LOCALNAME>
George Bast,
Don't worry I got your tapes, and I am happy with them. Please e-mail me
your thoughts on the Rush video I sent you. Sorry for sending this to the
jam, but I had computer problems and lost your address. Thanks
Isaac
Davidjon@worldnet.att.net
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:53:20 -0800
From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@SpiritOne.com>
To: "_YTSEJAM_" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT FAQ Updated
Message-ID: <199704010647.WAA07780@ridge.spiritone.com>
Okay, people...
The Digital Man has once again updated the Offical Dream Theater FAQ,
located at
http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
Now bee good jammers and go read it again. Mirror sites, grab your updated
versions also.
Later,
[ Matthew A. Schnoor ] "To rise, to fall
[ mail: schnoor@SpiritOne.com ] To hurt, to hate
[ mail: schnoor@cs.pdx.edu ] To want, to wait
[ http://www.SpiritOne.com/~schnoor ] To heal, to save"
[ IRC: M-Bone@irc.dreamt.org:2112 ] - Dream Theater, "Scarred"
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 01:50:26 +0000
From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Sucking
Message-ID: <199704010749.BAA19475@Walden.MO.NET>
>i just think the whole world sucks :)
Damn straight :). Now let's have a duscussion about what exactly
the world sucks :).
JP CLINIC THIS THURSDAY!!!!! WOO HOO!!!!!!!
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 00:51:04 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT does NOT approve of my CD projects... but...
Message-ID: <199704010751.AAA06863@goodguy.goodnet.com>
...but they don't _disapprove_ either, and I've always taken steps
to make sure I step on as few toes as possible. I just wanted to clear
that up because it came up in a recent 'Jam, and the last thing I want is
someone who doesn't know the real situation asking band management if
they've heard my latest creation. :)
Anyway, just to confirm, PT shipping is indeed currently
happening.
What's with this America vs. Europe thing? Who really cares? Can't
we all honestly say that we have a common bond of friendship because of
our interest in DT and similar bands, and that there are plenty of people
out there who do not belong to our ranks in all countries of the world? I
mean, really, folks. We are more alike than we are different, and the
differences just accentuate our personalities in a friendly convocation
such as this.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 09:56:29 +0200
From: Alexander Honnef <honnef@cs.uni-bonn.de>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: mp3-Bootlegs of the new stuff
Message-ID: <01BC3E83.E8796900@rhrz-isdn2-p3.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Hi all,
I search for some mp3-Files of the new DREAM THEATER Stuff. Does anyone =
know an Adress were I can get some Live- or Studio-Bootlegs of the new =
stuff???=20
Greeting Alex
To wait for a new DREAM THEATER album is like to wait with full bladder =
before a closed toilett-door!
DREAM THEATER rulez
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 10:02:48 +0200
From: Alexander Honnef <honnef@cs.uni-bonn.de>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 1. april rumour's about Dream Theater meet up with Tony Braxton
Message-ID: <01BC3E83.E9F8DD10@rhrz-isdn2-p3.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Hi all,
today, i heard about some rumours, that Dream Theater played a gig with Tony Braxton. Can anyone say me something about it.
Greetings Alex
DREAM THEATER rulez
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 03:04:03 PST
From: fish69@juno.com (James D Carey)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Misc Ramblings by the commited!
Message-ID: <19970401.030406.10231.0.fish69@juno.com>
Greetings fellow jammers!!
Well, it has been a long time since I've written and
thrown in my buck fifty towards the misc. rampant babbles. So I thought
I might say a couple words and ask a question or two.
I guess I'm amazed by the amount of time people spend
bickering over the total USA vs Canada pissing contest. WHO CARES?!?! I
mean come one, it boils down to two things. 1.) They whoop our ass in
hockey 2.) They're football and basketball teams suck. THERE!! How
simple is it. Besides, why is it so important? I applaude everyone for their admiration and patriotism, but if you have that much energy and
that big of an undying love for your country that you have to waste our time so that now we have to filter through all the BS just to get to some
"DTC" or "MATURE NDTC" GO JOIN THE ARMY and BE ALL THAT YOU CAN BE
THERE!! Not here... as much as some of us love our country, we take the
"real American attitude" and don't give two shits what other people
think of us.
Ahh, the new QR.., this album totally knocked my socks
off... I wasn't expecting anything like this, but I don't consider it
dissapointing by any mean.. (ya should have seen my face when I heard
the new Metallica [another topic to be discussed) I really don't look at
it as a QR album, I went in it with the attitude that I'm listening to an
entirlely new band and disregarded there previous material. I'm a DJ for
a local radio station and do metal/prog metal show. Two nights before
the album was "officially" released, a fellow collegue told me that he
talked to the stations EMI rep. and she said that "They're growing up, and older now... can't expect them to bang their heads forever." I'm
sorry, but I consider a person who's a true fan to be with the band and
like them and support them no matter what musical change they may make.
Not someone who jumps off the wagon just because they "changed their
sound" went "grunge" or another popular term "commercialized". You
should take the good with the band and except it for what it is, not
degrade it for what you think it should have been. Another question,
who's to say "(insert band name here) sold out" or "went commercial"
Hello folks, I'd hate to say this, but a band's album is scrutinized
heavily before it hits final production. The brass and head honchos in
a company have final say, and if they told QR or DT to produce something
thats more in with todays musical style of whats selling, they HAVE to do
that or it's considered a breach in contract. Hate to break it too ya,
the bands care about it's fans... not the record industry, they're in it
for the money. So if grunge is selling... then so be it, thats what
they're going to flood the market. Why? To get more money. So next time
you accuse a band of selling out.. try to keep in mind that the band
does NOT have final say in what hits the shelves and it may not be their
fault.
Metallica (unfortunatly) has not broken up, or even come
close to it infact.. on the contrary, it's the other direction. As soon
as this tour finishes up, they're going back into the studio to record
another album that is reportedly due out by X-Mas time maybe Novemeber
(Hmm, and we wonder why DT can't get into the studio). Jason was
quoted to saying that it is "Heavier and more RAW" and he quelled the rumors that this was going to be leftover shit from their previous outing.
I was very dissapointed with "Load" I considered it NOT to be "sold
out", but a lazy album all together in which most of the songs seemed to
be lacking the energy that the previous albums have had. A couple tunes
(I think 3 tops) had some of that energy (that seems to be dwindling with
every release).
Hey, being a DJ.. I have to tell ya, the new GWAR is
unbelievably screwy.. Seriously check out this album. And after listening to think to yourself what this band would be like if they took there
talent (yes they do have some) seriously. This album I think personifies
they're versatiliy. They have a wide range of songs (from straight on
Metal to a GWAR style rock ballad, to a GWAR style country tune) that
musically is excellent... lyrically is typical GWAR.. The album is
called Carnival of Chaos.. definatly a must check it out..
Another couple of notes, we did an interview with Glen
Tippton a couple of weeks back. He said that the new singer for Priest
will totally kick you in the balls! And will put Rob to shame. Just
started recording another album, but the release date is not quite
known. The new singer's name is Ripper Owens.. apparently a veteran of the west coast shred scene.. Also, this summers OzzFest with headlining act Black Sabbath, will be without their original drummer (who's name
eludes me right now) and the band will be joined once again by Mike
Borden of Faith No More.. and from what I understand, look for a
possible live album by them some time this winter.
Has anyone one heard a responce from Elektra concerning
the petition? Just curious..
Hey D.. here's one for you to ask Portnoy next time you
talk to him.. At 4 min and 53 sec. in to Metropolis, Myung does a bass
fill that's one half of the LSOaD intro ... What's the deal with that?
Was LSOaD inspired by Metropolis? Just curious...
-ArchAngel
fish69@juno.com
"Hey, I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class...
..especially since I rule!"
-Clerks
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 04:01:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: new fates (semi-DTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.970401033522.15837B-100000@unix18.andrew.cmu.edu>
Howdy. I'm here to tell you all about A Pleasant Shade of Gray.
First of all, you all have to buy it. Comes out April 22.
It's the closest thing to a new DT album we're likely to have for a while.
Kevin Moore's presence makes the whole thing sound a lot like like DT. And
if, like me, you're a crazed Kevin fan, and have been dying to hear him
cut loose and play some, you need to hear this album. Remember Images &
Words? For godsakes, if you do nothing else the rest of your life, buy
this album.
Jim Matheos said it would be nothing like the last couple, and he was
right. This is the heaviest Fates since No Exit, with a keyboard augmented
sound reminiscent of Vauxdvihl, or Metropolis. And Joey Vera does a
fantastic job on bass, with one of the best bass tones I've ever heard.
Remember the organ sound on 6:00? That's here. There's a really wicked
part about a quarter of the way through where the guitars and organ duel
in this awesome descending riff that cascades down and overlaps itself and
just kicks a whole lot of ass.
The drums. Well, Mark Zonder's been my favourite drummer for a long time,
and he's up to his usual tricks, with some awesome thundercrack sounds
among a gamut of other cool things. On one particularly awesome quiet
part, he plays his cymbals backwards.
Ray's singing is beautiful. He doesn't scream, unfortunately, but that was
expected. The vocal melodies are very emotional, dark and sad, and he
sings his heart out.
The guitars are a lot heavier than they have been on the last couple
albums. Beautiful solos, though there aren't quite enough of them.
Other things to look forward to: There's a really neat part where the
piano and acoustic guitar go at it, reminiscent of the intro to At Fates
Hands. There's a sort of chorus that goes something like "nothing leads to
nothing and nothing at all" that's wickedly dark and powerful. The lyrics,
from what I can make out, are typical thought-provoking Fates stuff. One
of my early favourite parts is about "writing letters in my head," and Ray
sings "Where you are, I am, in nights that never end...Where you are, I
am, in words I'll never send" and it's one of the most beautiful things
I've ever heard.
So, to sum up, save up your pennies for April 22. And please don't ask me
to copy this for you, I promised I wouldn't distribute it.
-maximilian
Anton Max
MadMax+@cmu.edu
http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 19:27:45 +1000
From: "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: Great Concept Albums
Message-ID: <199704020135.0771300@no1.com.au>
One album that you should check out is Time Machine's 'Act 11 Galileo', it
is up there with Marillion's 'Brave' and Queensryche's 'Operation
Mindcrime' as IMO, three of the greatest concept album's to ever hit my
ears.
The promo in the sleeve describes Time Machine 'Act 11 Galileo' as:
'The new progressive-metal dimension.
Refined atmospheres and sophisticated melodies for this highly skilful
band.
A valuable product recalling QUEENSRYCHE, DREAM THEATER and YES for those
who enjoy the new vibes of heavy metal'
Couldn't have put it better myself, of course they are still original
enough for you not to notice any of the above influences.
Ignore them at you peral
Graham
Graham Boyle
Sydney, Australia
graham@no1.com.au
'No one ever dreams and lives'
Bell In The Sea
M a r i l l i o n
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 03:43:29 -0600 (CST)
From: ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD <is01133@mis.finchcms.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Howard Stern's dad a DT fan?
Message-ID: <9704010943.AA10132@mis.finchcms.edu>
(For those who don't know Howard Stern, he is the number one rated morning
radio DJ in that country south of Canada, whose show is syndicated to
hundreds of stations around the world and who is a best-selling author and
soon to be Oscar-award winner). Anyway, I'm listening to LatM, and I
finally figure out the mystery of the screamer!!! From 0:06-0:10, you hear
Howard's father yelling "SHUT UP, SIT DOWN, YOU MORON!!" "SHUT UP, SIT
DOWN!! And then you hear the screamer respond. Obviously, the screamer is
none other then the self-proclaimed 'king of all media'. Not only does he
manage to become the biggest radio dj, author, actor, pay-per-view
special, TV show, etc., but he finds his way onto a DT album. (I hope
they record and release this album soon, before I run out of stuff to
analyze--although it's probably too late for that)
Its
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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 03:13:52 PST
From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: This entire country thread
Message-ID: <199704011022.KAA203834@out2.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 03/31/97 8:50pm -0800
Hi everyone,
It's time for a history lesson...I can't stand reading these
posts about who's country is better and why...first off...why
don't Europeans like Americans very much...do we all remember
World War 2?
Let's see, a prime example of the American attitude back
then...what country liberated Holland and why?...Canada did,
why, because the U.S. wasn't "concerned" with it because it
was a "small" country. The U.S.' ego decided to take a
holiday...so, Canada liberated Holland. There's 1 reason.
Could it have also been because of the repricussions of the
2nd world war? Those were some harsh taxes and cash owed to
the other countries as a result of Hitlers exploits. Although,
to be fair, that's not solely directed at the U.S.
Another reason, the United States never ever won World War
2...I don't even understand how that came about. See, the US,
was part of a group, called the Alies. (I believe that was the
term)...they were in a group with Canada and the British,
among other countries, THEY won the war, NOT the US. The
United States is NOTHING special, sure they had an assload of
troops and so forth BUT you wanna talk Special...take a look
at Englands' role in WW2. They get their asses kicked by the
Nazi's, literally and THEN fight BACK and probably ended up
doing more damnage than the the alies together BUT if it
wasn't for D-Day, and everyone working as a TEAM, we'd all be
dead or something like that.
My point is this, no country is better than another place.
Thats like saying, Western Canada is better than Eastern
Canada or the praries. neither place is better, all have their
advantages and disadvatages...but one government :)
I read someones post where they said that the US is the best
place to get an education because they have the best
colleges/universities...that's a load of shit. Education is
what you make of it no matter WHAT country you are in.
Patriotism is duely noted everyone but I think it's going a
bit to far this time when we insult another man's country for
assumptions based on half truths. Granted, there are some
really stupid people out there, for example, not picking on
the american people here, far from it...but I talked to one on
a chat line and he thought, that in Canada, it always snowed
and that we lived in igloo's. I can tell you for a fact, I
ain't in no igloo (sold ours last week). Can we end this
stupid thread?
Aaron Silverman,
Nah dude, your close :) Capitol/EMI was Maiden's former label
hehe.
Mark
*You must unlearn, what you have learned, only then, will you have learned something.
- Yoda, Star Wars
*I have learned, that I know nothing - Mark Smeets
*You have not yet completed your training - Yoda, Star Wars
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