YTSEJAM Digest 2518
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2514
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
2) Rush Setlist NDTC
by Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
3) Re: prog's tomb, LTL chords, TSM, midi
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
4) Fates mailing list
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
5)
by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
6) Re: Fates mailing list
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
7) A TESTAMENT TO METAL
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
8) Some Ozzfest stuff
by Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
9) "Careful With That Axe, Alex"
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
10) New Album Title
by Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu>
11) kevin shirley in modern drummer
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
12) This post has NOTHING to do with Rush.
by edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk)
13) All that Jazz
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
14) NDTC - New Tad Morose - "A Mended Rhyme" review.
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
15) Re: Savatage
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
16) Attention All Savatage Fans
by Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
17) Re: What is AOR?
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:58:33 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2514
Message-ID: <33651D89.180B@caribe.net>
Richard A. Rivera wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> I love BJ (Bon Jovi, that is:)
> and AOR also.
i know its a stupid question but can somone please tell me what aor is
i mean..what band or song or somethign..ive tried to figure it out..
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur.
The risk to survival is severe."
Ian Malcolm
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:04:41 -0400
From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Rush Setlist NDTC
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=bostech%l=CARRIER-970428220441Z-14004@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
Yeah, I know that this is an old subject, but my 60+ year old Dad
(really) and 1/2 brother (all of 13) will be going to the Rush show in a
couple of weeks and I would appreciate it if someone could send me the
basic setlist of what they are playing. Even if it is the setlist of
what they plaed on the previous leg of the tour.
Thanks in advance,
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@bostech.com
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:02:52 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: prog's tomb, LTL chords, TSM, midi
Message-ID: <33651E8C.32D@caribe.net>
Ernesto Schnack wrote:
> I know what you mean. Forget 'bout all the blabber about technically
> difficult music lacking feeling... people are always impressed when they
> hear good music played by good musicians. Especially at concerts... for some
> reasons it's not the same on CD, and a lot of people miss the boat.
>
man..! ive thought about the same thing..a friend of ours never liked
dt..until he saw live in tokyo.. ..then other friend of me did the same
thing.. ive always thought for a new couldbe fan its better to show
lit..even if they do look kinda 80'ish...which i dont mind at all..but
for someone whos a musician..or can appreciate musical talent..seeing dt
is the best way.. IMO
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur.
The risk to survival is severe."
Ian Malcolm
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:17:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fates mailing list
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.970428181409.4066A-100000@unix18.andrew.cmu.edu>
On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Andrew T. Forcier wrote:
> >Okay, here's what I'd like you to understand.
> >It's lonely being a FW fan. This list is one of the very few places
> >where we can talk about stuff like APSOG and find other people who...
>
> And here's what I'd like you to understand: a month ago, I was feeling
> the same way about Saigon Kick. No one talked about them anymore and all
> my friends hate them. So what did I do: got off my ass and "created" a
> mailing list with the help of other fans (check my sig). I'm not
> knocking Fates in ANY way, but if there are so many fans on this jam,
> why don't you help the BAND out and make a list. It helps gain support
> for the artist: case in point, the petition may not have ever happened
> without the Jam.
I would support a Fates list. Don't have the time or resources to run one
though. Anyone wanna give it a go?
-maximilian
Anton Max
MadMax+@cmu.edu
http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:23:40 -0400
From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <v01540b01af8ace7f6cca@[128.197.9.214]>
>It's a wonder what putting out an crappy album
>full of simplistic songs that all sound the same can do for a band's image
>and popularity.
That's odd. I've intimately familiar with _Hear In the Now
Frontier_, and there are several songs that stand out from the rest: "The
Voice Inside", "Some People Fly," "All I Want," "spOOL." And while they
might be relatively simplistic, they aren't any more simplistic than many
of the songs on _Rage for Order_. But you must have heard it more than I
have if you can find so many similarities between the songs.
>All of a sudden, Queensryche are cool again. <sigh>
Guess again. The album is falling out of the charts as fast as
_Promised Land_ did (even though the single is in the top ten). Also, the
tickets for their upcoming tour aren't exactly flying out of the box
office.
> this is not a flame and doesn't single anyone out *cough*, but I was
> just wondering if that YtseAsshole thing is up or not....
> Don't remember if it was taken down or anything....just
> wondering.........if it is up, I have a feeling that site
> would get a lot of hits about now.....
It's already been decided. I'm the YtseAsshole of the Millenia
(plural intentional). I have no competition.
> Prog is NOT dead. Start a band, and play some prog for your friends. We
> just might be able to start something huge.
No problem. Now all I have to do is fine someone besides me who
wants to play prog and who wants to play with me. I might as well run for
President; I have a better chance of winning the election (even though I'm
under thirty-five).
>>That's _Ayn_ Rand (rhymes with "mine").
>
>Spelling's Ayn, still pronounced Ann though. Unless you're Russian... :)
You're challenging my knowledge of Ayn Rand?
For the record, it does rhyme with "mine" (or "line," etc.). It
doesn't matter what your nationality is; "Ayn" is not even a Russian name.
(In fact, it was probably made up by Rand based on a Finnish name.) Tell
anyone who might be interested, and eventually her name won't be
mispronounced any more than Truman Capote's.
>>You know, it struck me why maybe there are so many damned flame wars
>>here. I think at least half of the people who subscribe to this list
>>are musicians themselves.
>
>Actually, I'm a guitarist, not a musician. The difference: put a piece
>of sheet music in front of me and I'll run way. Of course, this isn't
>the case with all guitarists... :)
So I guess Jimi Hendrix wasn't a musician. Nor Django Reinhardt.
My eigth grade music teacher must have been wrong.
>>I think "pop fans" are much more open-minded... They'll listen to
>>*everything* that is played on the radio or eMpTyV. :-) (even if it's
>>"crap" or "sucks")
The above is true. However, being "open-minded" is not good. My
mind is "closed" to what I characterize as garbage.
send all flames to:
Jeff Falk
Box 3208
700 Commonwealth Avenue
Boston, Massachusetts 02215
(617) 352-8639
jefffalk@bu.edu
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 97 16:20:27 PST8
From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fates mailing list
Message-ID: <9703288622.AA862269829@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
>>knocking Fates in ANY way, but if there are so many fans on this jam,
>>why don't you help the BAND out and make a list. It helps gain support
>>for the artist: case in point, the petition may not have ever happened
>>without the Jam.
>I would support a Fates list. Don't have the time or resources to run one
>though. Anyone wanna give it a go?
I would definately there is enough interest in a Fates list, I don't
think I can run one from my current ISP (checking though)... If we can
get one setup somewhere, I would be willing to be a co-maintainer of
the list...(don't think I have enough free time to do all of it <G>)
~Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ)
Email: mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com / mkizer@goodnet.com / fugazi@weirdness.com
URL: http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer
Dream Theater Song Book -^- Fates Warning Island in the Stream
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:48:55 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: jbroyles@u.arizona.edu, tylor@u.arizona.edu, matthew@u.arizona.edu
Subject: A TESTAMENT TO METAL
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970428164841.007f7db0@u.arizona.edu>
This is excerpted from "The Woodshed" (Editor's column) of the current
issue of Guitar World:
"Bands like Marilyn Manson and Korn represent something truly dangerous
and subversive, which are important, time-honored qualities in rock music.
They piss people off and even manage to get themselves banned on occasion.
And even though MTV will play the odd metal video, these bands have
resisted all efforts to mainstream them. They are true outlaws.
"And that's the way it's always been. Metal has always been rock's black
sheep. The fact that heavy bands like Pantera can sell out arenas and yet
barely receive any airplay comes as no surprise. It's to be
expected--business as usual. The beauty of metal is that it doesn't
require cable television or FM airwaves to survive. It thrives on
word-of-mouth and lives in the hearts, minds and CD players of rock fans
the world over. It lives on the road, in clubs and arenas. In short,
metal IS America--far more so than Bruce Springsteen and John Mellencamp.
To be honest, these guys don't need you or even me to survive. Besides,
Sabbath kicks ass."
.
.-/ \
_.-~ / \___ ______ __ _
\ / -~|| __||_ __// || |
/ . . || __| | |\ / ' || |__
/ / ~| ||____| |_| /_/|_||____|
/ / |-~\ \ \ \ | || || |
/ /__ / \ \____\|\_\|_/|_||____| WILL NEVER DIE.
/ .-~\ \-~
/.-~ \
/~ .-
\ .-~ ~Vince
\.-~
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:52:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Some Ozzfest stuff
Message-ID: <01II91F7BZAQ8ZG9E6@LTU.EDU>
Last Saturday I went to see Drain STH at I-Rock in Detroit. Really cool
show. I got to meet all of them afterwards, and the bass player told me
that they would be playing some one-off shows in between Ozzfest tour
dates with Type O Negative and Fear Factory. I just hope they do a one-off
in the Detroit area. Couldn't get tix OF tix for Detroit, so I had to
settle for Chicago. Oh well.
-C#
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:56:31 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: "Careful With That Axe, Alex"
Message-ID: <3365392F.380D@auburn.net>
How strange! I found this boot for $15 at a store on Toomer's Corner.
It's got 10 tracks from the "Exit...Stage Left" tour (including
"Limelight," "By-Tor," and "In The End") and 5 tracks from the "Grace
Under Pressure" tour ("Finding My Way" and a kick-ass "New World Man").
I don't think the P/G tracks are the same as the ones on the video, even
though they were recorded in Toronto. I'd give the disc an "A-" for
sound quality, and at $15 bucks, you probably won't find a better price
on a boot CD. Except for that "Subconscious" thing - they had 8 or 9 of
them for $7 each. I would have bought one, but I ran out of money. I
wonder what that was? :)
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
Proud owner of 4 pairs of yarn mallets
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:20:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Album Title
Message-ID: <199704290020.UAA24072@acmey.gatech.edu>
>it'll be ok when the whole damn list creams their jeans over "Lines in
>the Sand" (MY PREDICTION FOR NEW ALBUM TITLE!, what's your guess?)
Probably not since DT has never titled an album after one of the songs on
it.(Except ACOS, but then that's not really an album.) Then again, the
song's name might change. That seems to happen quite often. ;)
Eric
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:40:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: kevin shirley in modern drummer
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.970428173705.3772A-100000@mcl.ucsb.edu>
in case anyone wants to read up on Kevin Shirley, he is
interviewed in the June issue of Modern Drummer. I didn't
read it, but I guess he has also done Bon Jovi.
Found Trans Siberian Orchestra used today!
Does anyone have news of IRON MAIDEN going into the studio?
Also, I am looking for the SF Awake show in audio or video.
Anyone? Anyone?
layba day
Conrad
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:52:54 EDT
From: edwilk@juno.com (Edward J Wilk)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: This post has NOTHING to do with Rush.
Message-ID: <19970428.205024.8438.2.EdWilk@juno.com>
Hey all,
It's me. I'm back, once again, from lurkerdom."Why?" You may
ask. "Who gives a flying monkey shit?" The other 97% may ask (the other
2% are still in a pissing contest over asspog semantics). Well, yes,
it's the most dreaded "A Pleasant Shade of Gray".
First off, I have very little music theory knowlege to back up
what I have to say about aPSoG. Second, this is a pretty much unbiased
opinion (read again: O-P-I-N-I-O-N) of the album; the only other Fates
I've ever heard is No Exit, which I bought because of Jammer
reccomendation. I just wanted to say I really didn't like No Exit. I
couldn't stand the singing- Alder sounded, to me, like he was singing
high JUST to sing high, and he didn't sing with any emotion. The two
exceptions to this album were the song that has the lyrics, "We were
born, to brave cold weather.. stormy seas, in search for treasure" and
The Ivory Gate of Dreams. So I went into the new Fates promising myself
that I would listen to it like I had never heard of Fates.
I was VERY, VERY pleased. I got the album on the way home from
seeing Lord Of The Dance (which kicked TOTAL ass.. if any of you get a
chance to see it, DO IT!), and I listened to 1-4 on the way home. I was
impressed. Not like this was a great album, but it was 1000x better than
what I've heard before. Mark Zonder is AMAZING. He just goes fuckin'
nuts. But on with the review. Got home, listened to the rest of it.
It's AWESOME! The singing is incredible. There is so much emotion, that
I couldn't help but like it (I'm a singer for a band, and singing is the
thing that will really turn me on to a band, as long as the music is
decent). The guitar is good, not great; same with the base. But as I
said before, the drums are INCREDIBLE. And when I heard the keys/piano,
there was nothing to say. It just reaffirms my thinking that KevMo is
the most incredible keboardist I've ever heard, and am likely to ever
hear.
.... And so it goes. All comments and flames are welcome.
Just send flames and assorted stuff that has nothing to do with the jam
directly to edwilk@juno.com. :-P Until later,
Ytse-Ed
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:13:59 -0500
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: All that Jazz
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970429011359.00a02ec8@pop.enteract.com>
>I'm tired of not getting any replies from Chris Ptacek, who said he'd
>provide one for the tribute discussion.
Just for the record, I made the list, and then destroyed it because she got
too pushy, and started talking shit and cc'd me in the slam. It was a
matter of keystrokes to create, and it was a matter of keystrokes to delete.
I didn't want to help her out anyways, with the way she was treating my
friends here on the jam, and the holier than thou attitude she has, I
decided I wanted nothing more to do with it.
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener
A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come
from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG.
They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground
on which idea seeds fall."
- Michael Hedges
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 21:24:06 -0400
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC - New Tad Morose - "A Mended Rhyme" review.
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970428212406.006fc7e0@mail.ee.net>
The last time I anxiously waited for the release of new,
U.S. label material (that I anticipated based on positive
reviews of internetters lucky enough to get an advance copy)
was ACOS. So, last week, I trekked to the record store greedily
lusting after new, good material from Fates Warning.
Like ACOS, my expectations were met.
However, like ACOS, my expectations were ONLY met. Don't
get me wrong, I really enjoy both ACOS and APSOG and expect
them both to be in my listening rotation for many years.
It's that my expectations were set so high that neither
release really blew me away.
The day I bought ACOS, I also found Shadow Gallery's
_Carved_In_Stone_. The day I bought APSOG, I also
bought Tad Morose's _A_Mended_Rhyme_.
Both of these impulse (the state of mind, not the store)
purchases have far exceeded the "primary" purchase of the
day. After a year-and-half, I still have to regard CIS
as a better purchase than ACOS.
So now, without further digression, my AMR review:
First off, some background; my only other CD from Tad Morose
is _Sender_of_Thoughts_, which I purchased back in December of
1996. I would describe it as "poppy progressive doom metal".
A combination of Rainbow and Dream Theater with an excellent
cover of Rainbow's "Gates of Babylon". That album seems to
be more keyboard heavy than guitar heavy.
This new CD _A_Mended_Rhyme_ is fantastic. Balls and chunk
aplenty. Dropped-D tuned guitars, double bass drumming, operatic
vocals, keyboard leads. All the cliches I love about progressive
metal.
The lead singer is new on this CD(?Maybe he sang on the
Paradigma CD? I don't know) is named Urban Breed which sounds
more like a band name than a person's name. He is a baritone
with a range, tone, and delivery similar to Warrel Dane, but
he tends to go to his top end a little too much, coming off
a little thin. Otherwise, he is absolutely great. Loaded with
tons of effects, if thats a turnoff to you. A big improvement
over the previous decent vocalist.
The guitarist, Christer "Krunt" Andersson is really good despite
the fact that his name doesn't look Italian. He does both
lead and rhythm with some serious overdubbing on this
recording. I have no idea how they can even come close to
duplicating his work live without adding at least one guitarist.
His heavy rhythms are excellent. Now I am actually considering
buying a Pantera album, since Diamond Darrel is influencing so
many prog metal guitarists. He solos a lot more on this album
than the previous. His tone and delivery are very similar to
Bernd Basmer's, focusing more on rhythm and melody than all-out
power wanking.
The keyboardist is also excellent. I get the sense that he
composes the musical foundation of the songs because the
keyboards tend to carry many of the songs, which is a good
thing for me. He tends to focus more on harmony and fills
than doubling the guitar lead.
The bassist and drummer are good. I'm not a big rhythm section
head so I have not analyzed them to the extent that some may
like. The drummer loves double bass and hits the drums more
than the cymbals. The drums seem more natural than those on
Sender of Thoughts(another victim of snare triggers perhaps).
The bass is buried in the mix to my non-bass focused ears.
The songs themselves are all heavy and progressive. Influences
from industrial are present on this album (Terminator type
keyboards, vox vocals). The lyrics tend to be your basic dark,
depressive, mystical, dungeon-metal neo-Sabbath type. Standout
tunes for me include "Time of No Sun" (in which the first guitar
lead and bridge remind me (melodically) of some classical piece
whose title escapes me) and "Goddess of Chaos" (inspired by
the original _Alien_ movie).
The band members all have long hair, so they must be good.
The album artwork is kinda cool with a sorts
of satanic, evil, yet vague imagery.
The album is available domestically (hah hah) on Black Mark.
That means you'll have to have a hole-in-wall metal shop in
your town or you'll have to do mail order.
I recommend it highly. I think its better than the new FW,
which surprises me also.
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 97 21:35 EDT
From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Savatage
Message-ID: <m0wM1ot-000FQNC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Just read this, also in the new fanzine and I am flipping out but I don't
know if I can wait till 1998. Also, I love the idea of the band releasing a
rock disc and a concept disc this summer. I'm dying to hear Savatage go in a
rock direction- maybe something like Edge Of Thorns!!!
Don
>
>WOO!!! I JUST GOT WORD, TAGE IS RE RELEASING THE ORIGINAL STREETS IN ITS TWO
>CD ENTIRETY! they had it planned before, and scrapped the idea, now its
>back into action. AHH!!!! KICK ASSSSSSS. WOOO. ok just had to shoot off,
>later! :)
> ~Rip
>
>
>
mcauburn@iinc.com
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784
...so many times, I tried and failed to gather my courage
reach again for that nail, life's been like dragging feet
through sand and never finding the promised land....
Queensryche- Promised Land
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 01:54:56 +0000
From: Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Attention All Savatage Fans
Message-ID: <19970429015454.AAA3023@LOCALNAME>
Hello,
I have a Savatage bumper sticker, which is autographed by 2 members
of the band. I'm not sure which ones, though. If you are interested in
obtaining this bumper sticker, let me know. I'm sure we could identify the
members because I took a picture of them. I got this at a guitar show in
March in Tampa where, they made a guest appearence. I had not heard their
music back then. I went on some Jammers' recommendations, but when I heard
their music a week ago I realized someone else should have this. If anyone
is interested e-mail, I'm sure we can work out some kind of trade.
Isaac
Davidjon@worldnet.att.net
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 21:53:50 -0400
From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: What is AOR?
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970428215350.006fbf14@mail.ee.net>
At 03:28 PM 4/28/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
>i know its a stupid question but can somone please tell me what aor is
>i mean..what band or song or somethign..ive tried to figure it out..
>
The term AOR was invented by radio programmers in the mid-1970's. It
stood for Album-Oriented Rock. It was basically an attempt to make
radio programming independent of record company dictates - specifically
the concept of 45 RPM singles being the only songs played on the radio.
Progressive music was allowed on the radio back then if the DJ felt
like it. The program directors and DJs made and broke bands in this
era, something that the record companies did not like and have
since "corrected."
During this time period, radio programmers and DJs actually listened to
most new music that was released and programmed their stations based on
personal tastes and spur-of-the-moment whims.
There was at this time music that was popular on both the AOR stations
and the top-40 hit singles stations. These groups included April Wine,
Bad Company, Boston, The Cars (before they were a new wave band), Foreigner,
Journey, Styx. Your basic late 70's, early 80's vanilla bland arena pop
rock, which I still love since I'm an old fart and this music reminds
me of high school.
On the Internet, AOR fans consider their genre to be these types of
artists and subsequent artists greatly influenced by the popular
AOR acts of the 1970's. I divide AOR into two camps - the wimpy
rock camp that focuses on ballads (this camp has a tendency to
call itself AOR - adult-oriented rock meaning the bland soft rock
crap you hear all the 30-40 year old farts listening to) and the
pop hard rock camp that focuses on your basic good-times party rock.
More recent bands that I label AOR in my collection include
Bad English, Hardline, Damn Yankees, Night Ranger, Open Skyz,
Tall Stories, Giant, The Storm. There used to be an internet
newsletter called SFK that focused on these kinds of bands.
There are several excellent web pages that specialize in this
genre, send me an e-mail if you want more details.
I am a part-time fan of this genre, which has an even bigger underground
following than progressive metal. There are plenty of new and reunited acts
in this genre, which I believe will someday merge with and dominate the
Hootie-type modern music.
Of course, the original poster may have meant something altogether
different. There is a crappy radio station in my town (Columbus, OH -
QFM96) that labels itself an AOR station in the local newspapers.
They interpret this label as meaning "able to play the same pop
crap we've been playing for the last 20 years (especially when some
washed up but reunited 70's act hits town) plus all the new
pop crap."
Hope this helps.
Joe, who has exceeded his jam quota for the year.
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