YTSEJAM Digest 2513
Today's Topics:
1) Re: ??????????!????????????
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
2) Re: ??????????!????????????
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
3) Eric Johnson
by Jason L Luscher <luscher@student.umass.edu>
4) Re: for all you rush freaks.
by jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
5) Calhoun/Riverport
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2511
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
7) All music is good.
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
8) Unrelated side note
by Bruce Miller <BM0042@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>
9) GI Joooeeeeee....
by Symbolic@worldaccess.nl (Ewald Janssen)
10) Re: The DT shows in Tilburg
by breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
11) Re: G.I. Joe
by breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
12) help needed!
by SATCH <cedric.zambeaux@hol.fr>
13) Galactic Cowboys? | 1991-1993
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
14) Megadeth;old drivers
by me128 student <me128-ba@calcium.ME.Berkeley.EDU>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2512
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
16) Just Let Me Breathe
by Steffen Barabasch <sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
17) check it out
by WildKoba@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 02:01:54 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: ??????????!????????????
Message-ID: <19970426.230311.3406.10.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
That *was* a joke, you
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I'm afraid of Americans; I'm afraid of the world.
I'm afraid I can't help it; I'm afraid I can't.
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:51:25 -0700 (PDT) prmrkstx@hotmail.com (dex)
writes:
>>Here's one for Dex:
>>
>>How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to screw a
>>lightbulb in your ass?
>>
>
>
>probably the same amount that would it would take to tame your ......
>well I'll stop there for sake of your personal embarassment and
>inability to take a JOKE! what do you have in life if you cant laugh?
>
> A B S O L U T L Y N O T H I N G !
>
>DeX
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 02:01:54 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: ??????????!????????????
Message-ID: <19970426.230311.3406.11.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:51:25 -0700 (PDT) prmrkstx@hotmail.com (dex)
writes:
>>Here's one for Dex:
>>
>>How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to screw a
>>lightbulb in your ass?
>probably the same amount that would it would take to tame your ......
>well I'll stop there for sake of your personal embarassment and
>inability to take a JOKE! what do you have in life if you cant laugh?
>
> A B S O L U T L Y N O T H I N G !
It was *meant* as a joke! Maybe the one who can't take a joke is
the one you see in the mirror ;-)
Seriously though, just how many times do you think we need to see
the same joke in one week? It's not that it wasn't funny; it was so
accurate it's sort of scary, but that was at least the third time in the
past week or two that the same exact joke was told. I love jokes and
there isn't *anything* that I can't find humor in, but enough's enough.
Scott
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 02:15:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason L Luscher <luscher@student.umass.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Eric Johnson
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970427021203.24425A-100000@emily.oit.umass.edu>
Hello Jammlings
I am glad to say that I had the good fortune of stumbling upon a
chance to see Eric Johnson in a couple weeks. He's playing at a club in
Northampton, MA called Pearl Street on May 11th. Tickets are only $15-$20,
so if any of you are in the area check it out. This is wonderful for all
the people like me who don't have 62 million dollars to see the G3 show.
Anyway, I'll let you know how it turns out. - Jason
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 23:29:51 -0700
From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: for all you rush freaks.
Message-ID: <v02130506af88a20e7a63@[128.32.100.59]>
Syrinx... This is really damn funny!!! I would just like to take a moment
to thank you for this nice bit of levity, that is quite a bit needed right
now. I have been going through the jams pretty quickly lately, since for
the most part they are either filled with FW stuff (I have already made my
decision this album) or flame wars. BUt again, thanks for lightening this
place up.
-Shane
Currently listening to: Joe Satriani - Time Machine (Live CD)
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I Shane Liebling I I was told there's a miracle for each I
I jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu I day that I try. I was told there's a I
I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I new love that's born for each one I
I CAA Tweeker & Ytsejammer I that has died... Love is the Dance of I
I Member of A.M.M.O. since 1997 I Eternity."Metropolis" - Dream Theater I
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 01:59:48 +0000
From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Calhoun/Riverport
Message-ID: <199704270657.BAA21869@Walden.MO.NET>
Hey, anyone see Keb 'Mo perform on Conan O'Brien recently? Was that
Wil Calhoun on drums?
Also, to the dude that was wondering where/how to get to Riverport
Amphitheater (and anyone else who might be wondering), it's easy to
find. Just get on I-70, and go toward St. Louis. You can NOT miss
it. There's this huge-ass sign that says Riverport on it, and a sign
directing you to the amphitheater. I'd leave early, though. Traffic
can be a bear getting in there when there's a big crowd. E-mail me
privately for more details.
COOL! A commercial for Ozz Fest just came on :).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:08:38 -0500
From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2511
Message-ID: <v01530500af88b993b620@[207.79.6.161]>
I just received a shitload of ytsejams. It seems there are more posts
bitching about "off topic posts" than there are actual off topic posts.
Makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:12:25 -0400
From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: All music is good.
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970427031225.006a99c8@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
<RANT>
A couple 'jams back, Rip made a few most excellent statements about
tolerance and these flamewars over the quality of "Pleasant Shade of Gray."
Go back and have a look, I'll wait....
Done? Good. Now, since nobody seems to be paying attention to this, here's
something else everybody ought to consider:
No music -- NONE OF IT -- sucks.
How can I say that? It's easy. To paraphrase Alan Moore (who said, "All
stories are true,") all music is good. If you don't like a particular kind
of music, the most that can be said about it is that it's not good for you
-- it's just good for someone else. There is no kind of music that doesn't
make someone somewhere glad they listened to it. Even if a band has NO fans
at all, the band members are playing for themselves, so their music STILL
doesn't suck. If somebody posts saying that the new FW blows goats and it's
the most boring thing they've ever heard, *big fucking deal*. It's an
opinion. Let 'em have it. If you don't espouse it yourself, fine -- but
don't start ragging them because you think they're wrong!
Have a little tolerance for chrissake. I listen to a tremendous amount of
different music, but I don't slag something because I don't like it; I just
don't listen to it. Paraphrasing another great man (Henry Rollins) -- don't
bother to hate someone or something, just leave it alone. Hating something
is a waste of time and energy.
</RANT>
Cheers,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
-- Berthold Auerbach
"Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who
no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired,
gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 02:58:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bruce Miller <BM0042@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Unrelated side note
Message-ID: <01II6O3Z61D4013DOA@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>
I like to purchase Dream Theater CD's in bulk from music clubs. Whenever
I find out someone's birthday is coming up, I always have a stash of
quick gifts ready to send.
To anyone who hasn't heard the Lemur Voice CD, "Insights": It's very good.
I'm also glad to hear Dream Theater is going to start recording!
I noticed in the bio section of the fan page (http://www.rsabbs.com/) that
several of the band members like the actor Meryl Streep. As an off topic
note, I believe her movie, The River Wild, will be shown on NBC on
Sunday, April 27 at 8:30pm.
Bruce Miller
The Official Joseph Mazzello Fan Club
http://www.jmfanclub.com/
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 09:14:06 GMT
From: Symbolic@worldaccess.nl (Ewald Janssen)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: GI Joooeeeeee....
Message-ID: <199704270914.JAA12676@tiga.worldaccess.nl>
>> john petrucci is rocking away onstage with his new PJM100-P3 and wearing...
>> a GI joe shirt! its even got blue around the end of the short sleeves and
>hehe...He actually wore that at the 'Fix '96' Birch Hill Show...
And at the An Evening Of New Music Europe 1997 Noorderligt Tilburg show.
("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._
`6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.') Greetings,
(_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Ewald Janssen
_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' symbolic@worldaccess.nl
----(il),-''--(li),'--((!.-'-------------------------------------------------+
SDMPL (Six Disc Multi Play List):
Slot 1. Fates Warning - A Pleasant Shade Of Gray.
Slot 2. Conception - Flow.
Slot 3. World of Silence - Window Of Heaven.
Slot 4. Eldritch - Headquake.
Slot 5. The Gathering - The May Song.
Slot 6. Artension - Into The Eye Of The Storm.
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 08:36:25 GMT
From: breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
Subject: Re: The DT shows in Tilburg
Message-ID: <ubsp0c50c6.fsf@fusebox.hanse.de>
Hi All,
Ties> I would have liked to see the setlist changed a bit more
Ties> for the second show, but anyway it was cool to hear "Trial
Ties> Of Tears"...
Yeah no one that went to this show ever explained what this song
sounds like. Us other people that went to more than one show never
got to hear it *boo hoo*.
Jason
-- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 08:34:36 GMT From: breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg) Subject: Re: G.I. Joe Message-ID: <ubu3ks50f7.fsf@fusebox.hanse.de>
>> john petrucci is rocking away onstage with his new PJM100-P3 >> and wearing... a GI joe shirt! its even got blue around the >> end of the short sleeves and
YtseJim> hehe...He actually wore that at the 'Fix '96' Birch Hill YtseJim> Show...
I always thought it was a bright green soccer jersey type thing. But then again when I saw Derek dressed like Cobra Commander I was convinced otherwise. ;)
Jason -- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 11:45:43 -0700 From: SATCH <cedric.zambeaux@hol.fr> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: help needed! Message-ID: <33639ED7.420@hol.fr>
hi guys, I'ma french DT fan and i'm looking for someone who can send me a video of DT in concert.I know it exists in USA but it's impossible to find in France.If u can help, please Email me. Thanks -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> "Another chance to lift my life, Free the sensations in <> <> my heart,to ride the wings of dreams into changing <> <> horizons. <> <> It brings inner peace within my mind, as i'm lifted from <> <> where I've spilt my life. <> <> I hear an innocent voice <> <> I hear kindness, beauty and truth." <> <> * <> <> * <> <> E-Mail : cedric.zambeaux@hol.fr <> <> <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 02:54:14 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Galactic Cowboys? | 1991-1993 Message-ID: <199704270954.CAA63750@jamaica.u.arizona.edu>
Hey there, Anyone seen Airheads? I think the Galactic Cowboys are in that movie as a band with a cheesy "thunder" name or something. In fact I'm almost sure of it. Now I'm too lazy to read the credits, so anyone out there no if it is GC? Also, if you haven't checked out the movie, and you like that METAL stuff, go check it out. White Zombie and Lemmy (Motorhead) cameo too :) On a side note, man, the early 90s rocked. Back when we had a new, all black metallica album, megadeth had just come out with Rust in Peace, "Alternative" bands actually resembled music (Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, AIC, etc.), Dream Theater had that hit single "Pull My Udder" or something :), "metal" was still a buzz word, and the girls at the clubs were all going for the Kelly Bundy look.
The good ol' days :) Too bad I was a freshman in HS at that time :(
Peace be with you and God bless,
~Vince
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 03:42:08 -0700 (PDT) From: me128 student <me128-ba@calcium.ME.Berkeley.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Megadeth;old drivers Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970427032027.29189A-100000@calcium.ME.Berkeley.EDU>
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> From: "Sean Davis" <Sean.Davis@MCI.Com> > > In regards to the comments about Megadeth. If you haven't heard Dave > stated that he was sorry for the past couple of albums, he did not > want to disapoint the true metal fans. He also stated that they are > going back to the Rust In Peace style. This is curious. He was SORRY for the past two albums? What did he think of the albums while he was working on them? If he thought he was putting out shit, why did he bother recording them? I always thought artists only put out stuff they really dug and thought their fans would also dig. Has his opinion of MD's material changed or was he sorry as soon as they were released? Don't get me wrong, I like RiP and CoE (the only MD CDs I have). (Actually, CoE has a slight edge, because BOTH the bass guitar and the drums come through a lot better in the mix...when the whole rhythm section makes that kind of improvement, I just hafta make note of that.) But I just found it odd that Dave would feel the need to apologize for his past work. > ------------------------------ > From: Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com> > > time any geezer in a Buick comes anywhere *near* me, I'm rippin' into 'em, > no questions asked. I'll headbutt my way through the windshield, then... > You remember that part in that one Steven Segal movie where Stevie breaks > the Jamaiican drug-czar, Screwface #2, over his knee and throws him down an > elevator shaft? I'll do that. hehehe...what if, while you're on the hood busily engaged in slamming your head against the windshield, the elderly driver has a heart attack and his/her foot just drops on the gas pedal? Where will you be then? All together now: UP SHIT CREEK! hehehe > > And they say there's too much violence on TV. Not enough for me...needs more violence...considerably more. Once TV starts showing Hong Kong action flicks unedited, I'll be satisfied.
Younis Hilal-----------------------yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu AKA YoonDog on IRC "Long hair, short hair, what the hell's the difference once the head's blown off?" ---unknown (somebody wanna help me out here?) Now playing: Iced Earth
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 06:07:28 PDT From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2512 Message-ID: <199704271307.GAA17811@f36.hotmail.com>
>Why is it that when we hate something we're Adolf Hitler, and >when we like something we're cock suckers? > >Mellow Out. > >Subjectivity of human perception is not a difficult concept.
Cock-sucking Adolf Hitler! :-) Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame. Don't you see life's a game? So take hold of the flame. You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 14:30:36 +0100 From: Steffen Barabasch <sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Just Let Me Breathe Message-ID: <yam7056.1831.1461951888@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hello all!
This time it's the Fates Warning flame war list, my God, is this boring. I think it's time for some DTC:
Hey Ties, you haven't talked to *us* about Just Let Me Breathe. I think it's great! A compact, heavy song with a good groove and one of those insane lead parts we all love. It's bug fun! I rather see DT have success with that song than with Take Away My Pain, which *SUCKS* *BIG* *TIME* IMHO. The audience seemed to feel similar, when I think of the reactions during the shows.
BTW, did you see the Take The Time-reference in JLMB? We all know the chorus of TTT:
"Close your eyes, you can find all you need in your mind"
Now in JLMB:
"Close your mind, you can find all you need with your eyes"
Did no one else notice that?
Anyway, my absolute favorite of the new songs is still Lines In The Sand. Unbelievably compact. I mean, it's 14 minutes but it's like 5 min. Cool jazzy piano bits by Derek, soulful solo by JP, brilliant drumming, laid back vocals, etc etc. Simply a potential classic. Trial Of Tears was different. It had the same laid back, floydish feeling, but seemed to be confused, raw, and unfinished. Some cool parts, but it seemed more like a jam session, based on some LITS-bits (melody lines were very similar!), not like a written song. Maybe the producer will help.
Well, Take Away My Pain... Some quite powerful lyrics, but the music is so weak. A song about John's father's death, sounding like a Bon Jovi ballad. I expected a calm, sad song, but instead they did a bombastic, pathetic AOR track. Would you let a big band play "In The Mood" during your dad's funeral? No, of course, that wouldn't fit. And I think this song doesn't fit, too. It has the same happy feeling like Another Day, though this time everything's over. I just don't understand it!
Steffen
-- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steffen Barabasch - THE MIRROR TheMirror@westend.com Deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub http://www.westend.com/TheMirror -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:53:48 -0400 (EDT) From: WildKoba@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: check it out Message-ID: <970427105347_-1568400166@emout16.mail.aol.com>
check this out- g3 sumnmer dates.
********************************************************************** david yoichi kobayashi binghamton university bd91014@binghamton.edu
"'so speak, i'm right here', she used to say to me not a word, not a word...." -j. petrucci ********************************************************************** In a message dated 4/27/97 3:42:41, you wrote:
> >Some more tour dates for G3, featuring Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Kenny Wayne Shepherd >and Robert Fripp... > >Please note that in Europe, the line-up is Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, & Adrian Legg. > All things on Earth or tentative, so please call Ticketmaster or other local agencies >regarding ticket prices and availability. > >5/23 Rotterdam, Holland (Ahoy) >5/24 Hamburg, Germany (Musichalle) >5/25 Dusseldorf, Germany (Stahlwerk) >5/26 Stuttgart, Germany (Filharmonie) >5/27 Milan, Italy (TBA) >5/28 Zurich, Switzerland (TBA) >5/30 Paris, France (Bataclan) >5/31 Nottingham, England (TBA) >6/01 Birmingham, England (TBA) >6/02 Sheffield, England (TBA) >6/03 Manchester, England (Apollo) >6/04 London, England (Shepherds Bush Empire) >6/05 London, England (Shepherds Bush Empire) >6/18 Camden, NJ (Blockbuster Sony Center) >6/19 Hartford, CT (Meadows Music Theater) >6/20 Wantagh, NY (Jones Beach Amphitheater) >6/21 Holmdel, NJ (PNC Bank Arts Center) >6/22 Boston, MA (Harborlights Pavilion) >6/24 Cleveland, OH (Nautica Stage) >6/25 Canandaigua, NY (Finger Lakes) >6/26 Detroit, MI (New Pine Knob) >6/27 Pittsburgh, PA (IC Light Amphitheater) >6/28 N Tonawanda, NY (Melody Fair) >7/01 Chicago, IL (World Music Theater) >7/11 Woodlands, TX (Woodlands Pavilion) >7/13 San Antonio, TX (Sunken Garden Amph.) TENTATIVE >7/15 Minneapolis, MN (Northrop Aud.) TENTATIVE >7/18 Denver, CO (Red Rocks Amphitheater) >7/20 Reno, NV (Reno Hilton Amph.) >7/25 Vancouver, BC Canada (Plaza of Nations) >7/26 Gorge, WA (Gorge Amph.) TENTATIVE >7/27 Portland, OR (River Queen Showplace) >7/29 Las Vegas, NV (The Joint) >7/30 Phoenix, AZ (Blockbuster Desert Sky Pav.) >8/01 San Francisco, CA (Concord Pav.) >8/02 San Diego, CA (Summer Pops Bowl) >8/03 Los Angeles, CA (Hollywood Bowl) >Mexico City - yet to be confirmed > >Again, please remember that everything is tentative. This list has appeared in >various other places already though, so I wanted to go ahead and bring it to you >asap. Please call your local ticket agencies for more info. >
> >And if we haven't tried to sell you enough stuff yet, the G3 LIVE cd and video >will be released in May! Steve Vai's latest, entitled "Fire Garden" is also in >stores - buy extra copies for your pets! >
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