YTSEJAM Digest 2520
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2518
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2519
by jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
3) Hear In The Now Frontier
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2519
by rbeall@fdldotnet.com (Grim88)
5) X-Symphonies:The TUNE is out there
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
6) Cool DT moment (too bad I wasn't there)
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
7) New DT songs kick ass!
by "Staffan Johansson" <johansson_s@hotmail.com>
8) ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
by richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James)
9) Steve Morse tour?!?!?
by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
10) Airplay? For DT?!
by "Andrew T. Forcier" <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
11) Jason Giles
by Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
12) Radio meanings...
by svjohnson@amoco.com
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2519
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
14) Re: New DT songs kick ass!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
15) For crying out loud...
by "Andrew T. Forcier" <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 06:00:53 -0500
From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2518
Message-ID: <v01530502af8b8520cfb2@[207.79.6.167]>
>>I would support a Fates list.
So would I. We need a place to talk about DT. (hey I'm kidding)
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 03:04:29 -0700
From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2519
Message-ID: <v02130504af8b77dad5bb@[128.32.100.59]>
>Anybody care to convert these to RA 3.0? .wav file and macs don't get along
>too well.
Why do you say that? Just pick up SoundApp (2.5 I think is the newest
version) and just drag and drop!
-Shane
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I jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu I day that I try. I was told there's a I
I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I new love that's born for each one I
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I Member of A.M.M.O. since 1997 I Eternity."Metropolis" - Dream Theater I
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 03:31:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: YtseCircus <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hear In The Now Frontier
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970429030152.65052E-100000@dante24.u.washington.edu>
Well. I finally purchased "Hear In The Now Frontier" last week for $12.99
at Tower Records. They had the new Fates Warning album there, but since I
don't like Fates Warning, I didn't buy it. In fact, I hope Fates Warning
burns in hell. I say this here on the Internet because in Real Life such
opinions would probably get me flattened like a fucking pancake, boy.
Then I'd have to walk on home, boy.
"Hear" reminds me very much of "Ear Candy" by King's X. Guitarwise the
band has rediscovered the art of syncopation and canned the idea of gain
(gain is what adds sustain and brilliance to a distorted guitar tone. you
can find a gain-knob on most amps.) You could play this album at 11 and
the guitar solos wouldn't hurt your ears. At times the drums sound like
they were out in the hallway when the album was recorded. No thwacking
snares, thundering kicks, or sizzling cymbals to make your eyes bleed.
Where's David Prater when you need him? He'd give Queensryche a good kick
in the pants!!
Vocally.... Now HOLD ON!! SIT BACK DOWN, PUT DOWN THE GOLF CLUB, LET ME SAY
SOMETHING FIRST... I like the vocals. But that's probably because I got
into the band during the "Rage For Order" era and thus do not qualify as a
"real" Queensryche fan. I've also never seen them live. Had I been "with"
the band since the beginning I guess it would be okay to say "these vocals
are neat." But hey, I'm just a girl.
Funny how in the days of "Operation: Mindcrime," people would comment on
Tate's pained expressiveness on the higer notes and the texture in his
voice with, "Listen to that suffering! God, what a vocalist! He sounds
like he's CRYING! FIX MY MEEEALS, BE MY FRIEEEEND!!"
Today people talk about "Hear" and all they can say is, "Listen to that
guy struggle! Smoking ruined his voice! He sounds like he's CRYING!
SAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEE!!"
"Ya can't have it both ways."
--Danforth Quayle, Vice-Presidential Debate
As for the Spice Girls, I still don't have their album. But I do think it
would be a wise career move for them to have a no-holds-barred cage match
with En Vogue, maybe in the next Ultimate Fighting Championship as a
pay-per-view event or something. In such a case Gwen Stefani would be the
only logical choice for ring-official. The winners of this bloodfest would
then have to take on Mike Ostrich and Scott Cook.
Mike Portnoy's a fucking circus, or my name ain't Chris Ptacek.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 07:03:43 -0500
From: rbeall@fdldotnet.com (Grim88)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2519
Message-ID: <199704291203.HAA21144@fdl.fdldotnet.com>
>borrowing my copy of _Images and Words_. The only bad thing is that
>"Space-dye Vest" was her favortie song on _Awake_.
Whats wrong with that? Space-dye Vest is my fav dt tune, period. Its just a
great tune.
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Date: 29 Apr 97 15:25:51 +0200
From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: X-Symphonies:The TUNE is out there
Message-ID: <00210D612100000101000131860166@tppalv1.metsaserla.fi>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids....
Has this has been a great month of new music or what? I've heard Treasure
Land, which still keeps on growing on me, the new Conception "Flow" which,
after the initial shock, is a very good album as well despite some too trendy
influences on it. I've also managed to get my hands on Symphony X's "The Divine
Wings of Tragedy", which immediately became one of my favourite albums and new
Fates Warning (I won't even go there) and finally, yesterday the best album
I've heard in a looooong time was released. The title? "Visions" by
Stratovarius. I will be amazed if ANYONE manages to release a better album
this year. Here's some of my impressions for the both you who like to read
'em, chronologically starting from the oldest album...
Symphony X - The Divine Wings of Tragedy
Finally I have it, the album so many 'jammers have been ranting about. And
this one definitely is worth all the hype. Now I can relate to Madsman's
comments about this being the best album ever. Right from the first
in-your-face power chords of "Of Sins and Shadows" this CD rocks like nothing
neo-classical you've ever heard before. I'm a bit apprehensive to using the
term "neo-classical", because it makes me think of Yngwie J. Malmsteen and his
self-indulgent, overdrawn, excessively exaggerated a-hundred-notes-per-second
solos, but right now I can't think of any better term to describe SX's sound,
although their material includes a healthy dose of progressiveness as well.
The previous Symphony X productions have been good too (but IMO sound-wise a
bit too Yngwie-ish), but now their sound has become fuller and their songs are
well thought out and the title track, an absolutely amazing epic is the icing
on the cake for this one. Step aside, Yngwie, the new kings of neo-classical
metal have born. I have hard time to understand why wouldn't everyone on this
list enjoy this album. If you think Yngwie has got stale, this is what you
need. This can be topped only by another Symphony X album.
Rating: 9 / 10
Conception:Flow
The long-awaited (well, at least for me) fourth album of the Norwegian
progressive power metal quartet is now released on Noise Records. It seems
the Conception boys pulled a Queensryche here, because there are some IMO too
trendy and un-Conception-like (now there's an obscure adjective for 'ya)
elements on this one. They use pretty lots of samples, there are some grungey
stuff and the Conception's signature soloing is virtually absent from most of
the tracks and there's even a hideous disco beat in one of the tunes. The
first track, "Gethsemane" is a definite Conception classic on it's own, but
some of the songs required some getting used to. Especially the horrid dance
underbeat (just like something off a The Fugees album) in the beginning of
"Cry" made my flesh crawl with fear. Fortunately the song eventually evolved
into a pretty decent track. The title track, "Flow" is a catchy rocker, and
the closing track is very good, maybe the most typical Conception song on the
disc, but all in all this cd leaves something to be desired. It may be the
fact that I feel kind of sorry for Roy S. Khan, whose voice is capable of
singing far more complex stuff than this and therefore I feel his talent may
go to waste singing this kind of stuff. Hopefully this disc is just an
experiment in the area of modern-sounding rock-metal-grunge of whatever the
fuck you want to call it. This is not a bad CD, it's an okay disc, but I'm not
used to hear just "okay" material from Conception after two great albums,
"Parallel Minds" in 1993 and "In Your Multitude" in 1995.
Rating: 8 / 10
Stratovarius:Visions
Those of you who hate superlatives, you can stop reading this now, because
this review will be so loaded with them it will make you puke. :) But hey, I
have no alternative here, this CD is nothing short of spectacular. After the
opening track, a somewhat standard melodic power metal tune (which for some
reason reminds me of Rainbow) "Kiss of Judas" has set the atmosphere for you,
get ready to get your ass kicked. Hard. Track two, "Black Diamond" will make
you reach for your trusty tennis racquet and by "Legions", a great song
dedicated for the Japanese Strato fans about the fans themselves, you have
gone through several replacement strings and probably tweaked the racquet's
shaft to pieces. Timo Tolkki has composed some of his best stuff ever for this
disc and if you have liked Stratovarius, you will LOVE this album. Helloween,
being the the godfathers of melodic speed metal that they are, were never THIS
good. Stratovarius needs not shy in front of any band of this genre in the
world anymore. If you like Angra, get this album, Stratovarius is the only
worthy opponent for Angra in the realm of melodic speed metal. Stratovarius
isn't quite as diverse as Angra is, but they're more powerful and their overall
sound appears to be more positive. This is the kind of uplifting melodic speed
metal that'll make you feel pumped up and full of energy.
With this album guitarist Timo Tolkki affirms his position as one of the
leading shredders on this planet, any attempt to learn Jens Johansson's
keyboard solos will smash many aspiring keyboardists' hands and Timo
Kotipelto's voice sounds better than ever (save a little falsetto bit
in one of the songs, which to me, sounds unintentional or then again, it may
be just my ears that are ringing in falsetto) and in the balls-of-the-band
section, Joerg Michael bangs away like a well-oiled machine gun. Bassist Jari
Kainulainen is as reliable and expressive as ever. The best thing about this
disc is the fact that the instrumental piece, one of which has to appear
on every Stratovarius CD, sounds more like Stratovarius now, usually it has
been more like a Tolkki's solo piece on a Stratovarius disc. This time the
instrumental is entitled "Holy Light". The material is overall faster (5
breakneck songs, 2 power metal tunes, 2 ballads and the title track, an epic)
and on this disc there's not one of those annoying sub-par songs, that have
disturbed me on previous Strato albums ("030366" was absolutely terrible on
"Fourth Dimension" and I didn't like "Uncertainty" on "Episode" either,
although it was way better than "030366"). Whether you like ballads or not
is a matter of taste, but IMO the songs on this disc vary from very good to
unbelievable. Style-wise Stratovarius hasn't changed a bit from "Episode",
but hey, don't fix it if it ain't broken...
Lyrics-wise Stratovarius hasn't ever been anything too exciting, and at times
they've been donwright cheesy, but they're getting better in that department
as well. For the first time that I've noticed Stratovarius makes is a real
statement about anything in "Paradise", a song about nature preservation.
Those of you who are into moshing and intend to attend a Stratovarius gig in
the near future, you'd better order an ambulance to the venue in advance,
because you WILL have a self-acquired whiplash injury in your neck.
Rating: 9? / 10
_Mape_
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:46:05 -0400
From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cool DT moment (too bad I wasn't there)
Message-ID: <199704291244.IAA28324@uhura.ici.net>
I thought this was kind of funny....
A woman I work with was talking to a friend of hers about computers, and the
subject of the internet came up. The woman mentioned my website to her
friend in passing, just because I show it off at work so frequently. She
mentioned that I had a Dream Theater link graphic on the page, at which her
friend responded, "Hey, they're a band, you know".
Not overly exciting, but these are not the kind of people that I would think
know a band like DT even exists. Maybe with a lttle push, they could one day
have the widespread appeal of, say, Bush. :)
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_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
IRC: DDictator
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
NP: Dream Theater - "When Dream And Day Unite"
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 07:23:27 PDT
From: "Staffan Johansson" <johansson_s@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New DT songs kick ass!
Message-ID: <199704291423.HAA10208@f36.hotmail.com>
I checked out the new DT songs at www.gmsnet.com/progmetal.
Iīm downloading Raise The Knife and Where Are You Now?
Iīve already listned to Trial Of Tears, and it kicks ass!
If you havenīt listned to them yet. Do it now!!!!!!!
"All of the seasons, all of the days
All of the reasons why I feel this way"
-Trial of Tears
Staffan Johansson
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:27:35 +0500
From: richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: richard@jason
Subject: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
Message-ID: <9704291427.AA16508@jason.qc.ca>
hi all !
i have a really bad feeling about the new CD.
FIRST : METROPOLIS PT 2 will not be there
second : the CD dropped to 60 minutes even if the have 2 hours of new material
third : the best song "lines in the sand" will not be there either
(JP said that is not sure it will be on the new cd)
four : the producer; i'm not sure he likes songs more Than 10 minutes
five : the band want to sell more CD (3-4 minutes songs)
six : the DELAY of the new cd why? Mike Bahr please help
i just hope !!!
rj
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 09:30:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Steve Morse tour?!?!?
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970429092811.8001C-100000@rossby>
I glanced at what Aaron Silverman had to say. Does anyone know of the
concert schedule of Steve Morse and company. I would *love* to see a jam
like that one!!! It would be right up there with Steve Vai!
Jon Case
(please e-mail me directly)
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:36:20 -0400
From: "Andrew T. Forcier" <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Airplay? For DT?!
Message-ID: <199704291435.AA11592@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello,
On a JP clinic:
>This man is a GOD, no doubt!
I don't think No Doubt has ever heard of JP... :)
>Did 6:00, IF or LSOAD get any radio play around other parts of
>the country (pick a country, ok?)?
As a Jersey resident, I have to relate this story. I was driving back
from my girlfriends house on one side of New Brunswick to the other
side, and i had to change tapes in my car. So I take out the tape and
the radio comes on. i never listen to the radio, so I kind of tuned it
out while I selected a tape. But the solo kicks in and this guy is
tearing up the place! Screaming wah, nice little runs, then the
post-solo-chorus kicks in: "Don't tell me, ya wanted me..." I had no
idea at the time that a new DT album was coming out (I was already a
fan). I took a right on 27 and flew to the nearest CD store to find out
it wasn't released yet.
I only heard Lie that one time (without the end solo) and I heard CiaW
at work on the radio twice. One of those times I had an argument with
the cook over the state of music in the current world. But that was when
104.3 was still respectable... :P
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 07:54:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu> To: YTSE JAM DIGEST <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Jason Giles Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970429075233.12597B-100000@viking.dvc.edu>
Hello all:
If anyone knows if the ytsejam T-shirts are still available, the ones made by Jason Giles, preferably the tank top ones, could you please let me know. Also, could someone please give me Jason Giles address. Thanks alot.
Scott
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 97 09:49:49 -0500 From: svjohnson@amoco.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Radio meanings... Message-ID: <199704291503.AA01521@interlock.amoco.com>
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Hello! AOR is album oriented rock.....AC is adult-contemporary which includes anything by Neil Diamond, DuBarge, Gloria Esteban (sp?), Mariah Carey, new Sting, most of VH-1, etc. It's music to which musically boring people and my dentist work. There's a couple decent artists in there, but I can't think of any off-hand. I know the Jamiroquai thread has died, but my acid jazz band does a couple other their tunes ("Space Cowboy" and "Too Yound To Die"). These cats can play some killer stuff with some really interestingly build chords. Keyboard players and singers should check 'em out. Incidently, if any Chicago-area cats are into terminalfunkfreedomsouljazz, we're headlining at the Elbo Room (Lincoln/Lakewood/George) in Lincoln Park Saturday May 3 at about midnight. LATER- Steve
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:26:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2519 Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970429095013.9212C-100000@enteract.com>
> From: Jacktallica Thetfield <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu> > Subject: Re: My opinions... (NDTC) Who'd have thunk you could possibly learn a lesson from someone with a name like THAT?!?! :) Kudos to you.
> From: Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si> > I think the only reason that APSOG is so good to all of you(Fatez fans) > is that Kevin Moore plays keyboards on it... > That's my not so very humble opinion! Fair enough, but do you (or does anyone) really think that Hev gave a truly virtuosic performance? I think he did well, but he didn't scare me at all. Because of this, I get the feeling he was just playing pretty much exactly what he was told to. Anyone else think this? > Double standard? I guess I'll get the flame police out again, but > BULLSHIT. To clarify-- because I like DT a lot regardless of what some > person drools, I will buy their albums. Because I am lukewarm on Fates, 25 > or 30 drooling reviews will turn me off. The double standard you are > referring to is called "preference" Not at all. I think you've misunderstood. What he's saying is that you claim that it's okay to like DT while everyone likes it, but for you to like Fates Warning when everyone else likes it doesn't show your own personal tastes, but rather shows you following a trend, or acting on a self fulfilling prophecy. The fact that drooling reviews of a band you've heard can turn you off to something, suggests that you would rather dislike an album for the sake of being different than listen to it and like or dislike it on the basis of any merit. If we all say an album sucks, and pick it apart like vultures, would that make you buy it?
> As someone else already said, there is a predisposition on this > group to like Fates Warning. Same would go for Enchant, Lemur Voice, > Shadow Gallery, Megallan, Cairo, Ivanhoe, Kaos Moon and far too many bands > for me to remember. Absolutely. But if Shadow Gallery puts out an album that we find to be repulsive and awful, we're going to state it, rather than just follow because I think the band's previous work has been monumental, and the members of the band whom I've met online have been cool as hell. The difference is, hopefully I would keep my review within the realms of respect (and if you haven't caught it yet, I don't think it's beyond reasonable to say "This sucks" as long as you can give your reasons when asked, and you don't cut down the individuals in the band). I think it's insulting to say that just because we like something means that we HAVE to like evrything in that genre. It's possible that we WILL like it all, but it's not required. I didn't like Mayadome or Artension at all...
> >Sorry for the waste of bandwidth. > If you were sorry you'd have emailed me instead of spamming to the > list. You call him a hypocrite for doing exactly what you did?
> When I haven't heard a band, I have to depend partially on what > others say. The Gilbratar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock contains > hundreds of bands, am I supposed to buy something by all of them so I can > take the lead with my own tastes? Unless you're me, and DO buy every cd that comes out (and I am NOT made of money... I just have ridiculous spending habits) then don't be absurd. You have to pick and choose. You hear a review of a band and think it may be interesting, you find the album and buy it or check it out, etc. That's the way it's always worked.
> acting as a representative of the band. So I can't be acting as a fan, and a general musician/music listener? Well... that just sucks.
> No, I do not. Is it possible for an alocholic to recognize > somebody else's alcoholism? To recognize it, certainly. To criticise it, however is hypocritical and ignorant.
> personally. It's not a routine thing for me. If you have never called > anyone who you disliked a name before, I hereby declare my immaturity. > Otherwise you will have to retract your attack or you are being a hypocrite. No. I am not some "Pinnacle of Maturity". And if I, myself, attack someone on the basis of maturity and then immediately call that person a name, for lack of argumentative skill, then I am being a hypocrite. As we are all evolving mentally throughout life, it is impossible to not be a hypocrite at some time or another. Anyone that claims no hypocrisy is a liar AND a hypocrite. But I don't think you can make an argument based on how immature someone is, and then follow it up with immaturity, without making an ass of yourself.
> else to hold it and defend that person. Don't you Americans have a first > amendment about Free Speech? (Or is the 3rd or 5th??) I thought that > extended to ideas and opinions and expression as well. Maybe I'm > incorrect. I'm not "Hitler" and I'm not trying to limit anyone's free expression. But I am all over anyone's case when I think they are being disrespectful.
> Where I work, it means Anchovies, Onions, and Olives. :)
"'R' is for 'olive'; that's good enough for me" - Olive Monster, the discontinued Seseme Street Puppet.
- Chris
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:15:02 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org> To: Staffan Johansson <johansson_s@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: New DT songs kick ass! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970429131404.11663C-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
> "All of the seasons, all of the days > All of the reasons why I feel this way" > -Trial of Tears
Umm...isn't this from "Tears" by Rush??? If not it's sure damn close! _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* ^ According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: ^ ^ If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) ^ ^ (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major ^ ^ would have 4 sharps. ^ ^ Statistics show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances ^ ^ are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :) ^ ^ ^ ^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^ ^ ^ ^ Eric Moegling: emoeglin@wezl.org ^ ^ emoeglin@mail.coin.missouri.edu ^ ^ ^ ^ HOMEPAGE - http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN or http://opeckie.base.org ^ ^_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_^
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:11:19 -0400 From: "Andrew T. Forcier" <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: For crying out loud... Message-ID: <199704291710.AA21576@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello, First I read this in Jeff Falk's post: >It's already been decided. I'm the YtseAsshole of the Millenia >(plural intentional). I have no competition.
..and I think to myself: No, it's Lars Hellsten, naturally. :P Then I go on to watch this guy flame nearly everything I had put in my last post. Now normally, that's not a concern, I don't mind a flame or two. What doesn't kill you and all that. But I think we need a refresher course for Jeff:
:) = Joke
That's right fella. That was at the end of every line of mine that you flamed. So go on and tell me I'm wrong in the next three Jams for making a bad joke, but don't go telling me I'm wrong for no sane reason. So sue me, I'm cursed with a bad sense of humor... At least I can lighten up a little...
>However, being "open-minded" is not good. My mind is "closed" to what I >characterize as garbage.
Oh, then I guess this is lost on you, isn't it? My bad... Then I get on to the next Jam, I read something that infuriates me every time someone does it: >If you still feel the need to vent anger or flame me, please e-mail me >privately, because the 'Jam doesn't need it.
You're right, the Jam doesn't need flames on Megadeth, so why did you flame them in the first place? No one brought them up except you. The rest of my response is headed your way courtesy of private mail.
> <<- Oh my God, it's full of stars ->> > 2001 - A space Oddysey
Someone had this in their sig, and I have to ask: Has anyone ever been able to hear this in the movie? It's quoted in the movie 2010, but I have never been able to hear it in 2001, and I own the movie. Or is it in the book. I read that thirteen years ago, so I have no clue. Input is appreciated. -- ____________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ or send e-mail inquiries to: andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com
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