YTSEJAM Digest 2816
Today's Topics:
1) Petrucchi Clinic in Florida
by "Daus Studenberg" <daus@metrolink.net>
2) New DT
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
3) "You Not Me" available for download
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
4) Follow up stuff...
by caber1@concentric.net
5) You Not Me
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
6) Two FII questions (most likely unanswerable).
by Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
7) Zappa, Philly Jammers and New Album
by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
8) Re: it's done :)
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
9) You Not Me
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2815
by Thrak75@aol.com
11) FS:King Crimson/Van Der Graff
by KevMan <kvill@flash.net>
12) Boogie/New dt/other things
by SatchFreak@aol.com
13) new DT, stuff...
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
14) Return w/info
by Stixntrixx@aol.com
15) Falling into Infinity final: notice?
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
16) Re: Boogie/New dt/other things
by eckie@asu.edu
17) Re: Falling into Infinity final: notice?
by eckie@asu.edu
18) FG/Progday fiasco
by Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
19) Re: experiment
by gra@provida.no
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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 20:56:18 -0700
From: "Daus Studenberg" <daus@metrolink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Petrucchi Clinic in Florida
Message-ID: <19970804004329592.AAA193@daus.metrolink.net>
Hey Ytsejam!
I just read today that John Petruchi will be having a guitar clinic at
Thourougbred music in Tampa, Florida on August 18. Even though I am not a
guitarist but a bassist, I will be attending along with my other musician
friends. If anyone on the list is going to be there, wear your Ytsejam
T-shirt and I'll see you there. This is the closest so far to anything of
Dream Theater hitting Floridian soil that I have known of, at least until
the new album! :) Let me know if anyone will be attending.
Daus Studenberg
daus@metrolink.net
"I am just a stranger in the strangest land." - Mark King
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 12:42:09 -0300
From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New DT
Message-ID: <33DE0F51.961A94B1@geocities.com>
Hi there jammanoids,
> ------------------------------
> From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
> Subject: it's done :)
> -----final CD running time: (78:18)
Isn't that COOL??? =)
> The Japanese release will most likely have a bonus CD containing 1 or
> 2 extra
> songs. (the demos will be used for extra tracks...nothing else was
> recorded
> during the album's sessions....)
Think that I'll be spending the bucks on this... =)
> We are scheduled to play 3 or 4 Headlining shows in South America in
> the
> middle of September, and then if all goes as planned...we'll begin the
> world tour starting in America sometime in October...
Isn't that WAY COOL??? =) Hope one of those is here in São Paulo (can
someone confirm that somehow?). =)
-- []'s /**********************************************\ |* Marcelo Vanzin *| |* vanzin@geocities.com *| |* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ *| \**********************************************/------------------------------
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 19:58:59 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: "You Not Me" available for download Message-ID: <33E52953.6F95@auburn.net>
Hello, everyone! http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/dt.html and follow the link that says "everything you can possibly know about the new album."
Take it easy, everyone, Mark -- *********************************************************************** * Mark Peters -- swifty@auburn.net -- Auburn University, Class of '99 * * Ytsejammer, tape trader at http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/index.html * * Progressive tape swap - http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/tapeswap.html * * * * "If you mail a letter to the post office, who delivers it?" * * - George Carlin * ***********************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:24:25 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Follow up stuff... Message-ID: <33E6AAF9.2B7E@concentric.net>
Hi everyone,
> 7) it's done :) > by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> > 9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2814 > by "Scott/Curt Hansen" <curth@execpc.com> > 14) [Fwd: final DT studio details] > by caber1@concentric.net
No fair! Skadz owns the list. He cheated! And that other guy must be in ack mode! ;-)
I have yet another question. When I read my post it said that it was in MIME format. Now usually I can't read MIME posts. But I could read my post in the jam. Did anyone have problems reading mine(not MIME :)? Email min--I mean me.
Now I just have to buy a DAT recorder for the tour(besides getting the US & JAP CD)! :) John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:19:03 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: You Not Me Message-ID: <33E53C17.7AE5@auburn.net>
If you get the file from my page, right click on the link and save it to your hard drive.
In case you're wondering, no, I don't know what I'm doing :)
Mark -- *********************************************************************** * Mark Peters -- swifty@auburn.net -- Auburn University, Class of '99 * * Ytsejammer, tape trader at http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/index.html * * Progressive tape swap - http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/tapeswap.html * * * * "If you mail a letter to the post office, who delivers it?" * * - George Carlin * ***********************************************************************
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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 22:16:34 -0400 From: Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Two FII questions (most likely unanswerable). Message-ID: <33E53B82.78B3@net1plus.com>
Hmmmmmm.
Haven't post in a long time. There are two things that I've been wondering about:
1) Does Doug Pinnick sing lead vocals on LITS or just the backing vocals that JP does live ("Swept away with the tide. Through the holes in my head. Crown of thorns in my side. Drawing lines...")?
-and-
2) Are there any cool samples in any of the songs?
Mike Portnoy if your reading this and feel like e-mailing me the answers, it'll be our little secret. I promise :).
Later everybody, Jon Dery
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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:14:04 -0400 From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net> To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Zappa, Philly Jammers and New Album Message-ID: <33E548FC.551C@enter.net>
Thanks all for the Zappa info and opinions. It looks like I'm ready to dive into it!
Don't forget Philly Jammers.....big week for us all: Tuesday night is Queensryche.
- Friday Dave Neff and myself will be meeting for lunch at the BRAND NEW Lonestar in King of Prussia on South Gulph Road. Time: 12:30.
- Sunday (Aug 10) Fates Warning at the Troc.
hope to see some of you at these events.
Last and not least.....the new album sounds like its going to rock ass! Let's just hope they can keep the Sept 23 release date!
see ya'll
Bruce Duesterhoeft
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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:09:18 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: it's done :) Message-ID: <19970804021931.AAC11426@sni.pananet.com>
> i have mixed feelings about this.. doesnt anyone else??..i mean > cool.another song..but withougt that middle part BMS will sound just > like a heavy song
they could be referring to an even older part that was there from b4 the Fix shows. But I'm just guessing. I can't remember BMS so well...except for the end.
Sept.23 ooooooooooh! Ernie
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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:14:07 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: You Not Me Message-ID: <199708040414.VAA26852@gms.gmsnet.com>
Ok... if you missed it, here it is...
http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/newalbum.html
Has a copy of You Not Me from the album... MPEG 3!!!
And if you find Mr. SWIFTY's site getting loaded down... I have it mirrored at:
in the Ear Candy section...
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$
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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 01:07:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2815 Message-ID: <970804010724_684465884@emout15.mail.aol.com>
yay!!!!!!!!!!! new dt info. on my birthday, too.
as a wise man once put it....
"today is a good day to die."
storm thorgerson doing the artwork?? wow....THIS is going to be interesting. i personally would have preferred someone like h.r. giger, but oh well. is "hipgnosis" (art company from the 70s) still up and running? ;-)
and i guess i'll be selling my american version of the cd once my cousin does her best santa impersonation and gets me the cd from japan. yahoo!
and a tour in october. figure they get home for around christmas time. no worries about school then. excellent. i'm reserving my ticket at mulcahy's already. i can't wait to see the lon-guiland ho's looking at all the ytsepantysniffers getting off on "lie" or "anna lee."
btw, is it "trial" or "trail".......of tears?
off to masturbate. thanks skadz. ytsegoon
****************************************************************************** * david y. kobayashi thrak75@aol.com
"now it's time for them to deal with me." -m. portnoy ****************************************************************************** *
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 00:16:19 -0500 From: KevMan <kvill@flash.net> To: YtseJam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FS:King Crimson/Van Der Graff Message-ID: <33E565A3.2721@flash.net>
I've got more cds for sale (shocker, I'm sure): King Crimson-B'Boom (Kind of scratched up, but plays fine) 2cd live King Crimson-Thrak King Crimson-The Essential King Crimson (Frame by Frame) 4cd box set King Crimson-The Great Deciever- 4cd box set of early live material Van Der Graaf Generator-Time Vaults (Import) Van Der Graaf Generator-Maide Vale (Import)
E-Mail offers to kvill@flash.net
Thanks, Kevin.
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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 01:37:42 -0400 (EDT) From: SatchFreak@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Boogie/New dt/other things Message-ID: <970804013742_603992267@emout02.mail.aol.com>
Eckie, im glad you got the chance to play through some mesa boogie!!!! they truly are the manufacturers of tone itself!!!! after hearing DT the first few thousand times, i had to find out what JP was playing through.. his live rig is quite extensive but the heart of it is the triaxis/simul class 2:90/ 4 x 12 recti cab. fortunately, i was blessed with the opportunity to purchase these models along with a lexicon processor (mpx-1). i dont think you could the variety or variation of tones from this one preamp if you had a studio full of equipment!!!! but i guess thats why JP uses it.
now that the final word is out on the new cd, im finding it hard to sit down! its too cool to know its done and complete!
bryan
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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 01:52:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: new DT, stuff... Message-ID: <199708040552.BAA03901@umbc9.umbc.edu>
> The entire band was dead-on perfect last night. Earlier this week, I was > able to catch QR in Darien Lake, NY. For that show, they replaced "Bridge" > with "The Killing Words", and they didn't play "Take Hold", but they added "I > Don't Believe In Love" after "Breaking the Silence". All in all, it's been a > great week. Believe it, folks, Queensryche STILL rules...
Yeah, but apparently they just can't rule everywhere they go. The more reviews of the QR shows I read the more pissed-off I get. I saw them about 2 weeks ago at the Nissan Pavilion in Bristow, VA. I couldn't find anything wrong with the show <besides Geoff's obvious struggling> but I couldn't find anything RIGHT with it either. The Voice Inside is a poor choice for an opener, and Empire sounded belabored. It was cool to hear Another Rainy Night, but we had a shorter setlist than many spots on the tour, and I still contend that the prime culprit of this is not Geoff's age <which he can't help> but his smoking <which he can>. I would've loved to hear The Killing Words rather than Bridge <which I hate>. Plus, we didn't hear Breaking the Silence OR I Don't Believe in Love. I liked Some People Fly, though.
And what's with Wilton and DeGarmo switching sides?!?!? :)
> Hey All .... > > Got the good word today, the new CD is done. :) Here are the > vitals straight from the source (since he said to pass em to the world > and beyond :): > > Dream Theater - "Falling Into Infinity" > Produced by Kevin Shirley > Release date - Tuesday, September 23rd 1997
Yes! Sounds good to me.
> > 5. Burning My Soul (5:29) > > 6. Hell's Kitchen (4:16) (Instrumental - made up of old middle of > > "Burning....") > > i have mixed feelings about this.. doesnt anyone else??..i mean > cool.another song..but withougt that middle part BMS will sound just > like a heavy song (of course thats me imagining the Fix shows version > without that part dunno if theres been changes) also ive noticed some > songs shortened a bit...but i guess thats production and stuff...anyay..
I agree with you here. I think this is a mistake. I think that if they're gonna be prog that they should just be prog. Sure. Edit the prog out of the single, but if Joe Trendy likes the song enough to buy the CD then he should have to listen to the prog when he takes it home. And if Joe Trendy likes it, great. Of course, this is what they did with Take The Time, right?
> > The Japanese release will most likely have a bonus CD containing 1 or 2 extra > > songs. (the demos will be used for extra tracks...nothing else was recorded > > during the album's sessions....) > > > i dont know anything about the business.but.. WHY them and not us toO!! > :) hehe ... guess ill have to fork out the $$ for that one too! :)
I think this has been covered here, but I believe that the reason the Japanese releases have bonus tracks is that the exchange rates make it cheaper for Japanese kids to get the imported American release, so bonus tracks are included as an incentive to buy the domestic <Japanese> release.
Steve Z
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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 02:02:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Stixntrixx@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Return w/info Message-ID: <970804020253_1577267264@emout12.mail.aol.com>
Hello all. This is Richie Rivera. I unsubbed from the list a while back because I just didn't have the time to read all the jams w/ work and stuff. I'm still haven't resubbed, but I came across this bit of info in the Metal Edge folder and thought you all might like it. This may have been posted here before, so I apologize for the repeat if that's the case. I'll be resubbing at the end of this month when I'm back in VT (28th). Until then.......
Richie
----- Subj: PAUL POST Date: 30 Jul 1997 14:55:16 EDT ]From: Pgarg Message-ID: <19970730185501.OAA00967@ladder02.news.aol.com>
I spent a lot more time with Dream Theater than I anticipated last night, but every second was more than worth it... For starters, Mike sets me up in a room with a DAT of eight songs from the album (NO, I didn't tape it!) and I'm like, "OK, I'll skip around, listen to some of each, and come out and find you when I'm done..." Heh heh... I started listening, and listened to the whole damn DAT, one hour of new Dream Theater! The album is going to be 11 songs, 79 minutes (the longest you can make a CD), but three were still being finished as I sat there (John had a guitar part to finish, and James had a few vocal parts to wrap up, which he finished before I left)... The stuff is killer, just as heavy and progressive as we've come to expect from DT, but a lot more accessible, Kevin Shirley did a great job getting them to come out of their shells on this album... Unlike the last album, where there were times I felt like I was watching the final medal round of the musical Olympics, this album is deep, hard, and techically thrilling, but it goes down really easy... The album, Falling Into Infinity, is being released September 23, with a tour to commence in early October... Will the album be a hit? Well, it's got all the trappings of one, but who the hell knows in today's market. I think it's their best yet, though, and the potential is definitely there...
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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 23:42:07 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Falling into Infinity final: notice? Message-ID: <199708040642.XAA00079@goodnet.com>
Anyone notice the absence of Where Are You Now, Speak to Me, and Raise the Knife from the final tracklisting of FII? I think there might have even been one or two more deleted. I guess that makes Precious Things (which has RTK) and the forthcoming Mosaic (which has WAYN) that much more of collectibles. :)
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 00:27:34 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Boogie/New dt/other things Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970804002615.7271A-100000@general2.asu.edu>
Well, speakin' of Tri-Axis...
I walked into Guitar Center and they were selling a USED ONE?!?! For $1000. If I only had the cash....
~Eckie the starving artist who wonders why anybody would sell one of those things back to a guitar store???
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 00:30:06 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Falling into Infinity final: notice? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970804002916.7271B-100000@general2.asu.edu>
> have even been one or two more deleted. I guess that makes Precious Things > (which has RTK) and the forthcoming Mosaic (which has WAYN) that much more > of collectibles. :) > *big grin* It's a good September. >:)
~Eckie puts PT in the spinner
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 03:57:28 +0000 From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FG/Progday fiasco Message-ID: <B0000176727@chicago.orlinter.com>
>Aparently, Peter Renfro, ProgDay organizer, had several CD-Rs pressed from >bands scheduled to appear for promotional purposes. Big problem, it seems >to me, is that the bands had no idea this was going on. I feel that had he >simply consulted fg about the situation none of this would have happened.
There's more sides to the story than the initial FG email posted on the 'jam. I'm not going to reiterate my thoughts on this whole matter, but you can see mine and many other peoples reaction to this whole incident on rec.music.progressive. For the newsgroup impaired, use Dejanews http://www.dejanews.com You can judge for yourselves.
>Oh well, I'll be in Pittsburgh checkin' out Marillion anyway on the 30th. :)
Oh well, Glass Hammer will replacing FG, and GH rulz...at least another jammer agrees. :)
>Jonathan Byrne, 2L; WVU Collge of Law >rael@access.mountain.net >Album Reviews, Race Results, Commentary, and more at: >http://access.mountain.net/~rael/home.htm
Jammers this guy has a nice review page. Make sure you check out the Deus ex Machina review. ;)
Walter. Progday web page: http://www.hrzdata.com/progday/ FG web site can be found on http://ghostland.com
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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:45:04 +0100 From: gra@provida.no To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: experiment Message-ID: <412564E9.002468EA.00@oslo1.provida.no>
ernie@pananet.com had a brilliant idea in the last Jam, but what if we use this idea to make a YTSEJAM song. We can make a .wav .mp3 .iff thread where different jammers contribute with a riff, or come up with changes on existing riffs. Voila, we've now got a YTSEJAM. I'm sure there are some of you jammers who would like to join this thread .. I know there's a mac program for this task, but as far as i know it's mac only.
Suddenly we've got a 20+ min prog song with lots of time sig changes !!!!!!!!!
-.profile
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