YTSEJAM Digest 2832
Today's Topics:
1) CGA, Fans, Nothing
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
2) DTC? what's that?
by caber1@concentric.net
3) You not me
by "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@webhost.cl>
4) Dream Theatre Imports And Others
by "Sean Davis" <Sean.Davis@MCI.Com>
5) Re: You Not Me
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
6) Let's change the subject
by Noel Ontiveros <yourname@zoo.uvm.edu>
7) Big Secret Prog Metal Gathering in Bawlmer
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
8) Maiden
by "Chairface" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
9) Bleeding Ptacek
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
10) rare disease sweeping the nation
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
11) Re: Deb Seeger please email me!
by "Scott/Curt Hansen" <curth@execpc.com>
12) "Maverick supersonic, I'll be there in 30 seconds."
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
13) Pull Me Under
by Renob125@aol.com
14) Live IN TOkyo
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@caribe.net>
15) PROG in Maryland?
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Falling Into Spilled Milk <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: CGA, Fans, Nothing
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96a.970806171304.16698F-100000@dante30.u.washington.edu>
> From: "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net>
> Subject: Production and Kevin Shirley
>
> You sir, are being a dick AND you're a Fucking Idiot.
Is that like a Capugue or a Montalet?
> It's like judging the quality of the Last Supper on a CGA monitor with 8
> colors! Use your brain a little.
CGA with 8 colors? Let's see...black...white...sky blue...lavender... what
were the other 4?
---- > From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> > Subject: Re: Sick of people bitching. So let me bitch a little more. : > > What a load of shit.Yeah! And your mom reads Cracked magazine!
> Have fun at the bookstore...and you call yourself a fan.
But I AM a fan! Who the hell are you to tell me I'm not a fan?! I got WDADU on vinyl 'cause compact discs are for morons! I hated I&W and Awake, 'cause DT sold out big time with that prog shit! In fact, I stopped liking DT right after I bought WDADU! Gimme Bad 4 Good over DT any day of the week! But FUCK YEAH, I'm DT's biggest fan!!
You know, Jai John actually *does* have WDADU on vinyl. And I think he even got it signed by the band. Lucky stiff. Almost as lucky as John Lambrose...
---- > From: bogie@MIT.EDU > Subject: I am sick of lurking!!! Part 1 - The Bitching > > I usually can tolerate some of the stupid, incoherent comments made on > this mailing list, but now I'm getting fed up with these unformulated > opinions.
Your tolerance speaks well of your character.
> There is no logical way you can base an opinion on nothing.
Yeah, tell that to the people of Fantasia. I'm sure Atreu would back you up no problem, chief.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 19:45:14 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DTC? what's that? Message-ID: <33EA883A.7D93@concentric.net>
Hi everyone, Okay, this is my attempt at trying to get this list back to normal. Well, I'm trying to get everyone to put their knives away from my throat. ;-)
> CD track listing: 1. New Millennium (8:20) 2. You Not Me (4:58) > 3. Peruvian Skies (6:43) 4. Hollow Years (5:53) 5. Burning My Soul (5:29) > 6. Hell's Kitchen (4:16) (Instrumental - made up of old middle of > "Burning....") 7. Lines In The Sand (12:05) (featuring guest vocals by Doug Pinnick > of King's X) 8. Take Away My Pain (6:03) 9. Just Let Me Breathe (5:28) > 10. Anna Lee (5:51) 11. Trial Of Tears (13:07) Hmm, for you all people who think this album is going to be DT's sell-out album. Just take a couple for a couple of seconds to get blood back into brain. You could just look at the times, and, know that this isn't going to be a Bon Jovi band thing. I mean an instrumental? Doug Pinnick? Come on, jerky! > Unfortunately - due to manufacturing restrictions, it is possible (but not > confirmed) > that the cassette version may be shorter. (as was the case with "Awake")
Anybody have any guesses as to what might be cut? It might be Trial Of Tears. That would make the total time about 65 minutes. Is that short enough? How long was the Awake tape?
> The Japanese release will most likely have a bonus CD containing 1 or 2 > extra songs. (the demos will be used for extra tracks...nothing else was > recorded during the album's sessions....)
Anyone know what other songs were recorded but were not on the track list above?
> The 1st single to go to American Rock radio will likely be "Burning My > Soul". > It will probably be serviced approximately 2 weeks prior to the album's > release > (figure the 2nd week in September)...so start calling your local station!
Hmm, anyone know why that YNM is already a promo single and BMS hasn't been, yet? > Cover artwork was done by the legendary Storm Thorgerson who has done all > of the classic Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin covers.
Sorry I was born in the 70's but I don't remember much of those 8 months. :) What covers did this guy do?
> We are scheduled to play 3 or 4 Headlining shows in South America in the > middle > of September, and then if all goes as planned...we'll begin the world tour > starting in America sometime in October...
Do any of the guys in South America know where they'll be playing? Or more importantly do any of you guys have DAT's? :D Because I'm guessing that first show is going to be a real collector's item! Paging Mikr Bahr! ;-)
John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:59:23 -0400 (CST) From: "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@webhost.cl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: You not me Message-ID: <199708070059.UAA27188@antonia.webhost.cl>
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Ok, I hope *THAT* empties the bitching stack. Now, some serious comments:
I din't like YNM. I don't know what will happen with the rest of the album, though. When Counterparts came out, I hated "Nobody's Hero", but loved the rest of the album... sooooo... let's wait until FII comes out.
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 19:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sean Davis" <Sean.Davis@MCI.Com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theatre Imports And Others Message-ID: <19970807003705.AAA30641@localHost>
Im not sure if anyone out there has these or not but I can get a hold of: Dream Theatre Live At The Marquee $14.25 Silent Man $8.75 As well as others: Annihilator: Refresh The Demon (digi-pak) $19.50 Queensryche: Japenese Promise Land has 2 bonus tracks $26.00 Savatage: Live In Japan $22.50
If anyone is interested in any of these e-mail me privatly there is other stuff to choose from as well I'm putting together a catolog so if anyone is interested in that e-mail me your address and can have sent out in about 2 weeks. Can get just about anything Videos,Cds, and Movies. I'm going through a real good distributer.
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:45:31 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: You Not Me Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970806204235.19469B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
I for one have not had a chance to hear it yet (I know shoot me), but I do recall when DT had "Lie" on the net WAY before the album came out...most didn't like it much at first and became VERY sceptical...then those of us that are still here supported it and if we didn't like the first listen...gave it a few more. Moral of the story...There isn't one...it's DT have some faith in the band you say you are a big fan of or leave those of us who are ENTHUSIASTS alone and spend your time elsewhere. :)
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 21:32:51 -0400 From: Noel Ontiveros <yourname@zoo.uvm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Let's change the subject Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970807013251.0067c2a4@pop.uvm.edu>
I just joined the JAM, and I've been keeping up with all that everyone has had to say about DT's new song. I can't believe all the shit that everyone is giving each other over it! I really don't want any part of it (being that I haven't heard it yet myself), but I'd just like to say that nothing should be said of DT until the WHOLE album comes out. But to completely change the subject, has anyone heard of Seventhsign? Anyone have any of their albums? This is a great prog metal band from Albuquerque, NM and I can't find any of their albums :(
Noel
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 21:43:41 -0400 From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Big Secret Prog Metal Gathering in Bawlmer Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970806214341.006a303c@mail.ee.net>
Mike Blevins said: >Pat wrote & quoth: > >>Mike Blevins wrote: >>>BTW, there is some truth to the rumor that there's going to be a prog >>>metal festival in Maryland later this year. That's all I can say, except >>>for knowing that a popular band from Brazil is supposed to be playing... >>>:) >> >>What? >> >>You are not allowed to give information like that and then say "That's >>all I can say"... > >Well, being the person with the information, YES I CAN. :) >Talk to me at Fates.
Or, if you really want to know the straight skinny, get off your lazy butt :) and drive down to the Old Savage Mill in Savage Maryland.
Go inside and seek out a store called Of Sound Mind. It's the only store in the place that doesn't specialize in chick stuff or old Happy Meal toys. It is the best record store in the Balto/Wash/N.Va area. Take lots of money or a credit card.
Go inside the store and go to the "Progressive Metal" section. Pick out Angels Cry, Holy Land, Freedom Call, and Holy Live or whatever is in stock. Take your $100 to the counter.
The guy there is named Chris Lamka. He's always there. He lives there. He has a bed hidden behind the jazz LPs on the floor at the back wall.
Tell him your favorite band in the whole wide world is Angra and ask him if he's heard anything about them coming to the US... :)
Then smile and go home to tell us the details.
It was still just in the planning stages when I was there in June so I don't know. What I do know is that Chris is the Financier/Organizer/Promoter/etc of the previously mentioned event.
I will be there.
Joe - jkruger@ee.net
PS. MHOOYNM - My Humble Opinion of You Not Me
This is a fine example of a band stretching out in attempts to achieve a greater measure of commercial success (not always a bad thing you purists) without sucking. I think its a good thing; maybe I'll be able to talk my wife into going with me to the show now.
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 21:01:31 +0000 From: "Chairface" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Maiden Message-ID: <199708070152.UAA18795@Walden.MO.NET>
I just picked up Maiden's Raising Hell video today. Pretty cool. The horror illusions in it are actually kinda funny :). I kinda dig it. I noticed in the credits that they use Cacophony's "Go Off" as background music during some of the illusions. I also picked up Dead Poet's Society :). I also got my letter of acceptance to graduate school at Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville for the Fall semester today. One bad thing happened, though. I noticed my copy of I&W skips really bad during Metropolis. Eh, maybe I can snag another one if it doesn't stop :).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 19:06:05 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bleeding Ptacek Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970806190601.008165b0@postoffice.syspac.com>
Chris "Tah-Check" wrote: > Don't hate me because Kevin Shirley produced me. Don't hate me because Desmond Child >wrote me. Don't love me because JOHN PETRUCCI IS GOD. Don't unsubscribe from the jam because >FUCK YOU YOU WILL DIE DIE DIE DIE Farber sucks. > Just hate me because I'm beautiful. > Okay Chris, HELLO?! Off the acid, dude. :) That made about as much sense as Metallica's "Bleeding Me". By the way, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SONG ABOUT?!!! If anybody deciphered (sp?) it, please enlighten me. I just don't understand some of these lines...like:
"Caught under wheels roll, I take the leash that's bleeding me."
I'm picturing a dog getting run over by a truck here, and Jaymz is putting himself in the role of the dog :) Does he bark on stage for this song? I never saw *this* one live.
Eric wrote: >God, I love DT content!!!! > >Does this count? > No. and neither does this.
Oh yeah. NMY...er...Y>NR...eh...MNY...ILOVENY...YNM...yeah that's it! Pretty fuckin' good song. Nice 'n heavy with a killer groove and great vocals. That's the jizznut...errr....shiznit :) Good to C some D.T.C. back on the J.A.M.
One last note...MESA BOOGIE KICKS ASS, RIPPS NADDZ, AND JUGGLES HOOTERS.
Laterz,
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If you don't like it, it won't hurt my feelings. :)
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 19:12:36 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: rare disease sweeping the nation Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970806191234.00799ec0@postoffice.syspac.com>
>MoneyMaster O G Nate Doggz in da house, mofukka, wiffa gat!
Man, first Dale, then KorgX3, now Ptacek. Is everybody here coming down with a case of the hip hops?! FUCK. If you all don't stop I'm gonna have to get wiggidy-wack smack-dack on yo ass, BOYEEEE!!! Shit, me too now. This is contagious.
back to mumblings and jumblings...
~MegaVinnie ~SavaVinnie ~FatesVinnie (WTF?!) ~MetallifukinVinnie
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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:09:29 -0500 From: "Scott/Curt Hansen" <curth@execpc.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Deb Seeger please email me! Message-ID: <199708070215.VAA14786@mailgw00.execpc.com>
Hi all, sorry for the waste of space but I need Deb Seeger to contact me - I lost your email address!
Thanx Scott Hansen curth@execpc.com
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 19:43:13 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: "Maverick supersonic, I'll be there in 30 seconds." Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970806194312.0081f210@postoffice.syspac.com>
Mig(15)uel wrote: >I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate >it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it >sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I >hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, >it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. >I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate >it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it >sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I >hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, >it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. >I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate >it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it >sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I >hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, >it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. >I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate >it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it >sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I >hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, >it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. >I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks. I hate >it, it sucks. I hate it, it sucks.
"I see a pattern...there's structure there."
>I din't like YNM.
Din'ty Moore soup sucks. I put it in the trash can :)
>I don't know what will happen with the rest of the album, though.
Damn, and I was hoping you WERE related to Dion Warwick.
>When Counterparts came out, I hated "Nobody's Hero", but >loved the rest of the album... sooooo... let's wait until FII comes out.
You're just an anti-paganistic-pro-independent little-r-republican gay-bashing poofter assmunch in disguise, admit it!!
>\ GCS/O d-(pu) s++:+>++: a26 C++ UL+>L++++ >/ P+ L>++ E--- W++ N+++ o+ K+++ w--(+) !O >\ M- V-- PS+(-) PE++ Y+ PGP-(+) t++@ 5++ >/ X- R tv(+) b+ DI+ D++ G++++ e+(*) h!>++ >\ r-- y?
Yeah, I thought the fish was excellent too, but I don't know what was up with your dad and that damn cat. I mean, why did the cat crawl up his nose in the first place, and who was that dumb kid that ran in there after it?
;)~
>"Trust me - I know what I'm doing." >- Sledge Hammer
Truly a man with taste :)
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 22:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Renob125@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Pull Me Under Message-ID: <970806224708_1116437207@emout18.mail.aol.com>
<< Pull Me Under (even though I never would have classified it as radio friendly) received quite a bit of airplay, and is the sole reason many of us bought I&W, and subsequently joined this list. >>
Preach on, brother. I heard this song once and loved it! Then the radio guy never told me who played it. Then the jerk never played the song again. Could've been Clouds of Thunder for all I knew; the words eluded me at the time. A couple years later I was searching through a BMG catalog and DT I&W was there with Pull Me Under listed under it. I said screw it and ordered the album, thinking that just might be the song. And it was, hallelujah! Now I'm DT fan for life! All because I heard one song on the radio once.....
Maybe my (lengthy - sorry about that) story is not the norm, but I doubt it! Radio airtime is what we want if DT is to sell albums and make some more! Hell, with all the material they have, and if FII successful, they could have a new album next year! Now THAT would be something.
Paul ytse-golfer
"You and me go good together." -Spice Girls, demonstrating the grammar they learned good in school
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 23:02:57 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@caribe.net> To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Live IN TOkyo Message-ID: <33E93AE1.E5500069@caribe.net>
Does anyone know where i can find Live in tokyo for ordering ONnline???
thanx The local suncoast videos had 3 copys a couple of months ago and now they dont have any....thats a good sign isnt it?
--
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com mailto:progboy@mindless.com
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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 00:14:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PROG in Maryland? Message-ID: <199708070414.AAA29897@umbc8.umbc.edu>
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 14:54:37 -0400 > From: Rocky Dean <iban@mindspring.com> > To: ytsejam@ax.com > Subject: COMEON MARYLANDERS DAMMIT > > ok, im going to post this again... i NEED to get into a progressive band, > playing guitar or keys, i dont care which, but i need to.. before i explode. > so anyone in Maryland pleeeeeeease email me if you are in a band that could > use me, or know of a band that could use me. or i will be forced to come > knockin down your door! =] > > Rocky Dean > iban@mindspring.com > http://www.mindspring.com/~iban
Woah. I didn't know people played progressive music here in Maryland. I'd be in a prog band, too, if I could find one.
Steve Z
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