YTSEJAM Digest 2845
Today's Topics:
1) ?
by eckie@asu.edu
2) mp3 Of Burning My Soul!!!
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
3) Re: opppinion, dr1982 was right
by "dr d" <dr1982@hotmail.com>
4) arash=piece of shit
by Justin James <jsj@ix.netcom.com>
5) Dr. D and assholes.
by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
6) Arash waste our time!
by Justin James <jsj@ix.netcom.com>
7) DT, FISH, FATEZ
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
8) sequencing and tempo
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
9) people THINK!
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
10) ACOS Transcription Project
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
11) NITRO
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
12) Re: Arash waste our time!
by Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
13) Dream Theater Promotion
by "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
14) dr. d-umbass
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
15) My Journey to the Now Frontier
by Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
16) Re: opppinion, dr1982 was right
by "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2843
by "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 18:26:49 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970810181811.19218A-100000@general4.asu.edu>
What the hell happened to the Ytsejam? This is the _lowest_ filth I
think I've ever seen produced by the list! And right after DT finally
gives us a taste of new material? Some of you people boggle me.
One thing I learned back in Newbie E-mail School: if you're going to put
somebody down, at least have the balls to throw shit at him/her in
PRIVATE email.
Anyhoo, somebody was mentioning problems with a Lo-Pro tremolo system...I
rilly don't know jack 'bout those things, but if somebody could email me
both pro's and con's to this system, I'd be appreciative (Yeah, I know
_you_ already told me Vince, I'm lookin' for other ppl's opinions ;)).
Not like I'm purchasing anything anytime soon....
~Eckie's having too much fun in BLOOD
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:18:20 -0700
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: mp3 Of Burning My Soul!!!
Message-ID: <33EEA09C.3F66@dreamt.org>
Hey all, I just found an mp3 of Burning My Soul in my cache drive! I
don't know where it came from or how I got it, but it's up for grabs to
anyone who wants me to mail it to them, as long as you say PLEASE! Now
keep in mind, it's just a sample, not the whole song, so don't get too
disapointed when it cuts out.
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"Are you gonna bark all day, little -----
doggie, or are you gonna ---- ------------- ----
bite?"-Micheal Madsen, ---- - ----
Reservoir Dogs -- - - - - - - - --
"Years of pain I will take and hone - - - - - - -
Manifest with your broken bones - - -- - -- - -
My heart bleeds for none but my -- - - - - - - - --
own"-Machine Head ---- - - - ----
"None But My Own" ---- ------------- ----
Brian -----
DreamNDay@dreamt.org
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:18:46 PDT
From: "dr d" <dr1982@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: opppinion, dr1982 was right
Message-ID: <19970811021847.11016.qmail@hotmail.com>
HEY! ARASH!
What the fuck is the matter with you arash?, you worthless piece of
shit.Did your daddy anal rape you as a child?! The world would be a
hell of a much better place if sacks of shit like you just went
underground and rotted away. Learn english you motherfucker.
Fuck you,
Justin
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:24:27 -0700
From: Justin James <jsj@ix.netcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: arash=piece of shit
Message-ID: <33EE77DA.3EC7CDDE@ix.netcom.com>
HEY! ARASH!
What the fuck is the matter with you arash?, you worthless piece of
shit.Did your daddy anal rape you as a child?! The world would be a
hell of a much better place if sacks of shit like you just went
underground and rotted away. Learn english you motherfucker.
Fuck you,
Justin
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 21:27:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dr. D and assholes.
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970810211431.27334A-100000@rossby>
W.r.t. : opppppinion:
How do you spell Dr. D's name?
D I C K H E A D
Was that one of the shittiest posts or what?
{ insert sarcasm here .... }
I mean, Dr. D was *REALLY* showing off his grasp of the English language by
using fluent and eloquent terms such as "motherfucker" and "asshole".
I mean, I don't know about everyone else, but I was **highly** impressed
by this guy's tact and talent. Such splendor; such wit; such an
appropriate way to encourage someone struggling with the English language
to improve their skills.
{ end of sarcasm }
Now, to use terminology that Dr. D might POSSIBLY comprehend:
This half-brained son of a bitch (Dr. D) should have his ass wiped off the
jam. The guy who made a few English mistakes was only trying to provide us
with their viewpoint, so LAY THE FUCK OFF! Big deal, they made a few
typos and English errors. It's not like I haven't seen it here before.
It's also easy to make a typo. What do we have to be, secretaries or
English professors? Just shut the fuck up and don't ever post again on
the jam, if that's all you have to say!
-JCase
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:28:08 -0700
From: Justin James <jsj@ix.netcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Arash waste our time!
Message-ID: <33EE78B7.C4D148A4@ix.netcom.com>
Arash, you wasted our time sending the mp3 files, so:
If you have a fucking problem then get a fucking real Internet
connection
you fucking idiot! Anyone who fucking uploads a fucking 4 meg MP3 file
with a goddamn modem deserves to have their time wasted. You stupid
asshole.
It's fucking lameass 28.8k fuckers like you that are fucking up the
Internet! You send mp3 shit that don't work! Take your fucking AOL shit
and shove it up your ass! Dipshits like you that are fucking clogging
up the Internet the way you clog up your dad's ass make me sick! I'd
fucking kick your ass. Why did you say you sent massages? you fuckin
asshole
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:40:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Explore The Boundries)
Subject: DT, FISH, FATEZ
Message-ID: <199708110240.WAA24989@grex.cyberspace.org>
Hey,
Last Tuesday the local Electra Rep stopped by and handed me an
Electra Fall Sampler disc. Track #8 was Dream Theater's "You Not Me". I
was pretty happy.
Last Friday Night I saw Fish at the 7th house in Pontiac and got
to meet him after the show. I was pretty happy.
This upcoming Thursday I get to see Fates Warning. I'll be pretty
happy.
-- --- "Life is cast in shadows, ,swodahs ni tsac si efiL" molded by an expert hand, ,dnah trepxe na yb dedlom and the scenes that play before us, ,su erofeb yalp taht senecs eht and are the tragedies of man." ".nam fo seidegart eht erakoggie@cyberspace.org is John R. Kotzian
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 20:20:33 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: sequencing and tempo Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970810202021.006d875c@cats.ucsc.edu>
Unfortunately, most (if not all) sequencers do not handle tempo correctly. If you set a tempo of 80 with a meter of 4/4, then it's 80 quarter note beats per minute, which is as it should be. However, if you have 4/8 and a tempo of 80, it's still 80 _QUARTER NOTES_ mer minute, rather than 80 eighth notes, which would make more sense. So, when calculating the tempos for sequencing, you should keep in mind that a sequencer's tempo is always in quarter notes per minute and not in beats per minute. SOme may be different, but just about all the ones I've used are like this as well.
The problem stems from the fact that a sequencer only displays the tempo as a number, and not with the corresponding note value. In a 6/8 piece, for example, you'd want to measure in dotted quarter notes per minute, since that is the beat value in 6/8.
p.s. picked up a bunch of new CDs in the UK, such as My Dying Bride, the new Paradise Lost, etc. will review soon.
__ /\ __ __\/__\/__ ~Chris \_||_/ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ /__||__\ // \ | \\ "Let nothing bleed into nothing, and did nothing at all" \| Jim Matheos, Fates Warning, "A Pleasant Shade of Gray"
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:20:07 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: people THINK! Message-ID: <19970811022618.AAA4571@sni.pananet.com>
I dunno if it's the same wee.wee guy, but in the end it's some moron that just wants to fuck up the list, so stop posting about what an idiot he is. It's quite blatantly obvious, you don't have to remind us all.
Arash, I don't know why the guy decided to take it on you, but I hope you didn't get the wrong impression. Don't let one guy spoil it for you. I'm sure a lot of jammers (including me) are very thankful for putting those mp3's on your page. Just weed out all the assholes and you'll find the jam to be a cool place. But the Fucking Idiots are cool ppl though:)
laterz, Ernie
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 21:24:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Falling Into Debauchery <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: ACOS Transcription Project Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96a.970810211959.40078E-100000@dante28.u.washington.edu>
> From: Brandon Vaughn <vaughn_b@chipola.cc.fl.us> > Subject: ACOS Project alive and kicking (barely) . . . > > Those of you who have been on the jam for over a year might remember an > ambitious nut-brained guy who started a guitar transcription of ACOS > project but never finished it. That nut-brained person would be me.
He hath returned! :)
> changed jobs twice, moved twice, crashed my computer twice, (man I > don't like the number 2!) . . .
Anyone who continuously crashes their computer like this must have a problem with drunk drivers.
> But I guess the real reason I dropped from sight is that Warner Bros. > threatened to sue me if I distributed the finished product. Go > figure...they have the rights to the music...are never going to publish > the song...yet if anybody transcribes it (even though they _do not_ > sell it), they sue. We live in a messed up world.
Wow. Guess I'm up for about fifty lawsuits.
> If I get real brave, I'll even send a copy to Petrucci. (He knows we > were working on it, and seemed flattered at the time.)
Yes he was. So flattered in fact that he personally made corrections on that lick at 12:42 that everyone was frying their brains trying to transcribe. :) I think everything I sent way back when for this project had already been transcribed by other folks, so let me know if there are any spaces available for editors, Brandon!
Bafu Vai
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 21:34:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Falling Into Carpal Tunnel Syndrome <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: NITRO Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96a.970810212446.40078F-100000@dante28.u.washington.edu>
In other news, I recently found in my mailbox two albums by a band called Nitro. They were mailed to me by Joe Kruger. Nitro is now defunct, you can't get any of their albums in retail stores unless you check the used bins. So Joe was kind enough to send me some examples of the legend we know as MICHAEL. ANGELO.
I have a few thoughts about Nitro to share with all of you, since I know you're all dying with curiosity. Listening to Nitro has allowed me to reach the next plateau of shredder-nirvana. Soon the 16th note shall fill my soul from within and I shall become one with the fretboard. But before I attempt to describe the fury that is MICHAEL. ANGELO. I feel I must address the vocalist in all of his glory.
The vocalist, Jim Gillette, is a scream. A riot. A hoot. A hootananny. Just now he was making sounds for a full thirty seconds. Falsetto or not, some of this stuff sounds pretty difficult. I wonder if any of his notes were looped somehow and blended together to create some of the neverending passages of sound he tortures the listener with. His name is Jim Gillette 'cause his vocals are razor-sharp, baby! Like STILETTOS in your eardrums! And your temples and your throat and everywhere else on your body that soundwaves can vibrate!
I'm not saying he's Geoff Tate, or James LaBrie, or Charlie Dominici, or even Sinead O'Connor. In fact I think he's quite horrifying. In fact the entire band is horrifying, some members in more skillful ways than others. You either want to shut your ears because you can't stand the agony, or because you can't stand the sick, twisted, merciless perfection of execution. But Gillette can hit really high notes with his falsetto voice and wail them for unusually long amounts of time. Sometimes you can hear his voice being used as a backing track, a role usually reserved for the ambient chords of a keyboard. All of a sudden you go, "Wait, that sounds like a human voice in the background...holy cow Jim Gillette has been making that noise for the last four tracks straight!"
The bassist and drummer handle the bass and drum parts. I saw the drummer, Bobby Rock, give a clinic in Mount Vernon in 1995, and he was phenomenal. His kit supposedly took five hours to set up, with about six guys working full time on it. But it was gigantic, bigger than Portnoy's, and the drum shells featured artwork from the Sistene Chapel, so they were really pretty to look at. And Rock just went wild, a great mix of styles and a great sense of humor. I wish I'd purchased one of the Frankenstein discs he was selling afterwards.
So that's the vocals, bass, and drums.
But then. Theeennnnn... There is MICHAEL. ANGELO. All I can say is holy shit. If you occasionally enjoy listening to fast guitarists, and wonder if there's a level above the Malmsteen > Gilbert > Impellitteri chain of devastating speed, MICHAEL. ANGELO. will take you to the next level.
MICHAEL. ANGELO. doesn't do much other than pick like a flawless machine. He also sweeps like a janitor on crack. There is no unwanted, interruptive string noise under any of Angelo's picking, so I'm almost certain he used a muting device of some sort. Perhaps a glazed donut. But regardless, he must be heard to be believed.
YOU ARE NOT READY.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 00:36:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Arash waste our time! Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970811003358.6966A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
On Sun, 10 Aug 1997, Justin James wrote:
> It's fucking lameass 28.8k fuckers like you that are fucking up the > Internet! You send mp3 shit that don't work! Take your fucking AOL shit > and shove it up your ass! Dipshits like you that are fucking clogging > up the Internet the way you clog up your dad's ass make me sick! I'd > fucking kick your ass. Why did you say you sent massages? you fuckin > asshole
I count seven "fuck" words. Can he replace George Farber's 1st place position of being the most immature ytsejam poster? We'll have to wait and see.
Brandon
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 00:42:20 -0400 From: "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater Promotion Message-ID: <33EE982B.7B43F232@nh.ultranet.com>
I have been out of touch for quite a while on the working of DT... I have been on vacation for 2 weeks... uck... anyways... I wanted to let everyone know that I have been ringing the phone off the hook at local stations requesting the new song. I hope they will play it.. I am on a personal mission to support this band and promote them.. The song is well worth promoting... Dasit..... J
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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 22:11:27 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dr. d-umbass Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970810221125.0079e270@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 07:40 PM 8/10/97 -0700, dr. dork wrote: >Fuck you, >Justin
I couldn't have said it better myself, you loser.
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/6933 | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 05:54:20 +0000 From: Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My Journey to the Now Frontier Message-ID: <19970811055412.AAB27811@LOCALNAME>
The Queensryche concert in West Palm Beach, FL was amazing. The setlist mutated again because of Geoff Tate's cold. They did not play 'Take Hold of the Flame,' 'The Lady Wore Black,' 'Breaking the Silence' and 'I Don't Believe in Love.' They added 'Della Brown' and to my surprise replaced 'Get a Life' with Walk in the Shadows.' :) I was expecting 'Get a Life' to follow the opener, 'The Voice Inside,' but when they started, I said to myself this is not 'GaL,' it's 'Walk in the Shadows!' :)
The band was incredibly tight tonight. Tate came out dressed like a pimp. He wore a white dress shirt with a jacket and dress pants. It did not take long for him to change into a tank-top with the heat. I was in the 7th row on Degarmo's side. Throughout the show I was yelling the words of the songs and playing air guitar. He noticed me a couple of times and gave me a few looks, and he pointed at me occasionally. :) The band was joking around with each other. I highly urge all of you to journey into the now frontier.
BTW, does anyone have any boots, besides the secret location show in New Mexico, of Queensryche on this tour? If so, send me a message.
Isaac Davidjon@worldnet.att.net
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 00:41:48 -0600 From: "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: opppinion, dr1982 was right Message-ID: <199708110647.XAA25562@odin.ax.com>
I write this in concern for all people who subscribe to the Ytsejam mailing list (A mailing list for the fans of the bad "Dream Theater") We have been suddenly receiving unwarranted mail from this person who is using one of your addresses. This kind of intolerance, in my opinion, is unacceptable in such a public forum. Please help correct this problem, because he is unwilling to comply.
Thank you, KorgX3 KorgX3@cyberhighway.net
]From: dr d <dr1982@hotmail.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Date: Sunday, August 10, 1997 8:32 PM Subject: Re: opppinion, dr1982 was right
> >HEY! ARASH! >What the fuck is the matter with you arash?, you worthless piece of >shit.Did your daddy anal rape you as a child?! The world would be a >hell of a much better place if sacks of shit like you just went >underground and rotted away. Learn english you motherfucker. > > >Fuck you, >Justin > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >
]From: dr d <dr1982@hotmail.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Date: Sunday, August 10, 1997 4:44 AM Subject: Re: oppppppinion
> >Hi >come on people what's your oppinion about "Burinig My soul", "Just Let >Me >Breath" and "Preuvian Skies" ? > >you made a mistake, it is not: oppinion, it is: oppppinion >my opppinion about "Burning My soul" is that it su, suu, suuucks, there >i got it! >Didn't your mother teach how to spppppeak english, what did she teach >you motherfucker? >You fuckin dumbass, can't you speak? ok, it's not the first time: >Sorround >go's >massage > >so, you see, you are born retarded, where is your dictionary, did you >shove it up your ass? >"Just let me breath", the mp3 song, i donwloaded it and it didn't work, >you motherfucker, you can't even make a mp3 song, you fuckin asshole, >you wasted the time of everyone. >ALL THE SONGS YOU MADE DON'T WORK, YOU MENTAL RETARD!! >your web site sucks, what can you do right motherfucker? > >YOU SEND SOME MASSAGES??? you fuckin asshole??? > > >---------------LET YOUR DICTIONARY SURROUND YOUR ASS----------------- > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 00:59:12 -0600 From: "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2843 Message-ID: <199708110712.AAA25663@odin.ax.com>
-------> From: Justin James <jsj@ix.netcom.com> >You know, I've been on the jam for over a year, and this is the single >worst piece of filth I have ever seen posted here. We have rules about >things like religious debates, country debates and things like that. >But people like this are the ones who need to be kicked off the list. >Come on Skadz, lets get rid of this worthless waste of sperm & egg.
-------> From: Justin James <jsj@ix.netcom.com> >It's fucking lameass 28.8k fuckers like you that are fucking up the >Internet! You send mp3 shit that don't work! Take your fucking AOL shit >and shove it up your ass! Dipshits like you that are fucking clogging >up the Internet the way you clog up your dad's ass make me sick! I'd >fucking kick your ass. Why did you say you sent massages? you fuckin >asshole
Did anyone else notice this or is it just me? It appears our wonderful Dr. D and our beloved Justin James, who both seemed to haven't suddenly sprouted from the bowels of Hell itself seem to be the same person. Anyone wanting to condemn this bastards, send gripe letters to abuse@hotmail.com (For the Dr. D mails) and Netcom doesn't appear to have a gripe forum so just gripe to support@ix.netcom.com (for the Justin James mails) Be sure to forward them an original message in order for your complaint to be viable. Let's keep intolerant shit like this offa the net.
And don't repost the whole damn thing to the 'jam like I just dumbly did. *blush* KorgX3 KorgX3@cyberhighway.net
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