YTSEJAM digest 2862

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Wed Aug 13 1997 - 06:39:06 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 2862

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: shut the fuck up and listen to me for a second!!!!!!
     by Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
      2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2861
     by "dr Roswell" <dr_roswell@hotmail.com>
      3) ROFLMAO!
     by Dave <buster@ee.net>
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2861
     by Polo Santos <ytse_jammer@mail.utexas.edu>
      5) Is Your Web Site A Secret?
     by owl@owlsnest.com
      6) Bafu / license plates
     by "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net>
      7) Re: Is Your Web Site A Secret?
     by "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
      8) Need some addresses
     by Melissa Bahr <emerald@goodnet.com>
      9) This whole bullshit
     by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
     10) Oh, the humanity
     by Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com>
     11) Re: shut the fuck up and listen to me for a second!!!!!!
     by eckie@asu.edu
     12) Re: Is Your Web Site A Secret?
     by eckie@asu.edu
     13) Re: ROFLMAO!
     by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
     14) fuckin jew
     by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
     15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2861
     by love.office@wireless.ee (Love Office)
     16) pointless rambling, subject to be skipped
     by Raivo Hool <raitz@guvatrak.ee>

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    Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 23:42:43 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: shut the fuck up and listen to me for a second!!!!!!
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970812234101.19292A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>

    On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 omeraron@mail.netvision.net.il wrote:

    > 1)there will not be a bonus tracks to the japanese version of FII!!!
    > do you know why?!?!?!?
    > i'll tell you!!
    > because the totall run of the normal version of the cd is 78 fucking
    > minutes!!! and the maximum length of a cd is 79 minutes!! so if they
    > wanna have a bonus track they will have to do it very very fast,if
    > you know what i mean.....

    If you had bought the Japanese version of Awake, you'd see that the bonus
    track, "eve" was put on a mini-disc and was packaged along with Awake. So
    yes, there WILL be bonus tracks with the japanese version.

    Brandon

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    Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:53:32 PDT
    From: "dr Roswell" <dr_roswell@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2861
    Message-ID: <19970813035357.11999.qmail@hotmail.com>

    I sent a 2 page report on Justin to the FBI (internet-criminal@fbi.gov)
    i work for the government myself, i think this will take care of him,
    can I be of any help other than that, i look for ppl like that and erase
    them, the fbi should be on his door in a week or so, until then don't
    answer the threats.

    Dr. Roswell, WC, US

    ______________________________________________________
    Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:42:06 -0400
    From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: ROFLMAO!
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970813004206.0068dfb4@ee.net>

    Brandon, this had me cracking up!

    >> Someone needs to
    >>
    >> beat the living shit
    >> out of you. :) Fucking idiot. :)
    >
    >I never get these curses followed by smileys. Whenever I see one of these,
    >I picture Micky Mouse saying "fuck you" to me and then giving me a candy
    >bar. Why not just say "fucking idiot?" Fuck smileys.
    >
    >
    >Brandon

    Dude, I read that line about Mickey Mouse and just about spit my drink
    all over my keyboard!! LOL!!!!!! I guess I pictured it as well....

    buster
    http://users1.ee.net/buster
    http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/

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    Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 23:57:50 -0500
    From: Polo Santos <ytse_jammer@mail.utexas.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2861
    Message-ID: <33F13ECE.E36E382F@mail.utexas.edu>

    Some cheapo hotmail loser wrote...

    > I sent a 2 page report on Justin to the FBI (internet-criminal@fbi.gov)
    > i work for the government myself, i think this will take care of him,
    > can I be of any help other than that, i look for ppl like that and erase
    > them, the fbi should be on his door in a week or so, until then don't
    > answer the threats.
    >
    > Dr. Roswell, WC, US
    >
    Actually, my neighbors have these REALLY annoying wind-chimes, and won't
    take them down, even though I've asked repeatedly. Could you write a
    report about them?

    Bahr wrote...

    > If anyone's curious, here's my costs as they stand now...
    >
    > $4.00 - media. Remember that discs fail, otherwise this would
    > be less than $3.
    > $2.50 - packaging. Those slick liners cost money.
    > $2.00 - shipping, including packet and so on...<snip>
    >
    Etc. etc. I'm of the opinion that you can't really break down the costs
    of Bahr's operation to the unit anymore; it's gotten so big. And looking
    at the costs of an entire print run would only begin to give us a
    slightly better look at this, since he's running so many projects at
    once. What it comes down to is that once he's covered his fixed costs,
    it's all down-hill from there. I think a price drop is a good thing,
    except that I already payed full price for Bahr's cd's. I know many
    retail outlets will refund the difference if a product purchased from
    the store goes on sale(at least within a few weeks, receitp a must). I
    wonder if Bahr realized that many cheapo's out there(me included, but
    not really) are thinking about cancelling order's and asking for
    refunds, and then just reordering at the lower price. Since he extended
    the print runs of both current DT discs(PT appears to be at over 400
    ordered now, compared to an intitial pressing of what, 150?), there
    seems little chance that they will sell out soon.
        I think the shit hit the fan because many of us are at least
    somewhat bitter at having to wait so long after ordering PT and DoW and
    then having these held up because of the Rush boots. Maybe I'd be
    happier if he stuck to DT boots? Guess I'm an asshole then, cause I
    ordered Acoustic Spirits(along with every other DT boot). I guess what
    I'm(we're(maybe?), as in all the cynics) trying to say, is that it was
    cool to support you(Mike) when you were starting out, but youre customer
    service has been lacking as of recently. I know MANY people are
    anxiously awaiting PT and DoW, which have been shipping for nearly 4
    months, and were on order for much longer than that. And since we seem
    to know you personally(you aren't a big bootlegging corporate entity),
    it becomes much easier to vent. I think before you throw yourself into
    the next project, maybe you should work out a better way to ship you're
    packages, if the postal service limits you even without another
    teamsters strike. More later...

    Iolo

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 01:11:13 -0400 (EDT)
    From: owl@owlsnest.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Is Your Web Site A Secret?
    Message-ID: <199708130511.BAA08049@owlsnest.com>

         Is your web site the best kept secret on the Internet?

         We'll promote it to 50 search engines and indexes for $85
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    If you have a great product, but are not getting many inquiries from
    your Web site, you may not be adequately listed on the Web's search
    engines and indexes.

    Millions of viewers daily use these facilities to find the products
    and services they are looking for. But if your site is not listed, no
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    Listings on most of these services are free. However, locating and
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    That is why we offer a web site promotion service.

    WHAT'S THE DEAL?

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    Generally, we complete the submissions within 48 hours of
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    The list changes from time to time. This is our current list:

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    After we process any corrections, we will run your promotion, capturing
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    Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 01:14:36 +0000
    From: "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Bafu / license plates
    Message-ID: <199708130516.BAA56414@node1.frontiernet.net>

    >"Yeah, he should stop wasting his time with us and start swindling
    >lawyers and politicians!! Where the BIG BUCKS are!!"
    >
    >Sorry, a voice just shouted that in my mind. Must have been from the
    >Tang.

          It's good to see that Bafu still drinks his Tang . . . hope
    it's scalding hot :-)

         Also, I've been meaning to bring up the topic of personalized
    license plates. I remember somebody said they had plates that said
    YTSEJAM. Well, when I get a new car, I want to get personalized
    plates that have something to do with DT. I was thinking of this
    last summer and came up with the following:
     LRNG2LVE (gee, wonder where I got my ID?)
     DT ACOS
     METROPLS
     VINDALOO
     LFTGSHDW
     VOICES
     SCARRED
     FRTNNLIE

      Anybody got any more? I think they have to be 8 letters or less,
    at least in NY.

     -Brian Anderson

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    Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 23:55:35 -0600
    From: "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Is Your Web Site A Secret?
    Message-ID: <199708130601.XAA21106@odin.ax.com>

    > Is your web site the best kept secret on the Internet?

    OK, sounds like a good time to start barring people who aren't subscribed
    to the jam from being able to post.

    That way, we might not have to see anymore crap like this:

    >Dr. Roswell, WC, US
    >____________________________________________________
    >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    Hrm... Dr. D. and Dr. Roswell, both with hotmail accounts. Gee, what a
    coincidinky.

                KorgX3
                KorgX3@cyberhighway.net

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:40:22 -0700 (MST)
    From: Melissa Bahr <emerald@goodnet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Need some addresses
    Message-ID: <199708130740.AAA26602@goodnet.com>

            If the following people would like their CD's to be sent to them I
    need them to E-mail me at: emerald@goodnet.com with their addresses. Some
    how when I redid the way the business was working there were some
    envelopes missing or something. So if you would be so kind as to help me
    out I would appreciate it.

            Here is the list of people I need addresses from:

            1. Cameron Hall
            2. Craig Spinney
            3. Chuck Polenzani
            4. Dave Thornton
            5. Bill Huston
            6. Charone Frankel
            7. Andrew Munves

            The sooner you email me the sooner your CD gets sent out.

    - Melissa Bahr - emerald@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:45:34 -0700
    From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: This whole bullshit
    Message-ID: <199708130745.AAA15843@gms.gmsnet.com>

    Alright... Let me say my piece...

    Brian Cox....

    Well... he's a good BOOTLEGGER (yes, that's right) BOOTFUCKINGLEGGER...
    Don't give me this shit that you're not a BOOTLEGGER... you copy the
    shows for your own listening?? That's still bootlegging, let's not keep
    up this higher than thou attitude... you want Bahr to be honest, you be
    honest first...

    Well, at least I can say you don't owe me anything... I don't know about
    others...

    As for me, that's right... I'm a fucking BOOTLEGGER... I own many DAT
    masters...

    -The Doc

    -- 
    #$%*#$*@                 E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com                     #$%#$#$%
    _+_+_+_+           Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering                _+_+_+_+
    [][][][]               Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast                    [][][][]
    #$@#$#@#               http://progmetal.gmsnet.com                     @#$@##@$
    

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 05:05:54 -0400 From: Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Oh, the humanity Message-ID: <199708130905.FAA29337@darkstar.icdc.com>

    >They have a permanent keyboardist now (forget his name) and plan to keep >him and not hire a second guitarist.

    I hope that's not the same guy they had up on stage with 'em... Lil' Bolton there spent more time fixing his hair than actually playing!

    Somehow, I had an extra $10 and I bought Divine Regale's EP, "Horizons". Is it just me, or does the singer sound little like his studio-self when playing live? Perhaps it was the pacing -- distorts throatal muscles, I hear, alters the identity. Not a complaint, you understand.

    >wonder if Sony have bought the Angra back catalogue too

    With our luck, probably, then they'll pull an echolyn, and not release any of it! Worst case scenario. Aside from the one where each future Angra release is loaded with deadly neurotoxins to be released upon removal of shrinkwrap.

    A few weeks ago, I was playing some MIDIs I wrote for my pals. John, a punk friend of mine, walks in at the end, just as my stuff is ending. I had recorded the MIDIs on a tape I used for mix-tape purposes earlier in the year, and Angra came on, halfway into "Z.I.T.O.". He was enthralled. Quite a surprise -- perhaps Angra will be able to do half-decently in the states. Nah. Hangrason on the other hand... Now *that* has possibilities. "Everyone's favourite Brazilian speed metal band fronted by a 14-year-old hearthrob!"

    Before I depart once more, and before I forget to ask again, are there any other University of Maryland, College Park 'Jammers? Thar's where I'll be come late August. Senior to freshman? Where's the decency in that? As a great Tanner once put it, "How rude!" Or was that "You got it, dude"?

    Brian Henderson, Mmmmcyberburbop Cyberburlap@icdc.com

    "Yadh! This sucks!" -- me, after sampling my first White Castle bacon cheeseburger

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 01:02:36 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: shut the fuck up and listen to me for a second!!!!!! Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970813010206.22513A-100000@general3.asu.edu>

    > whoa!!!! i was actually listening to holy wars at the same moment i > read the mail!!!! whoaaaaaa

    Damn I'm good! >:^D

    ~Eckie knows too much

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 01:05:10 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Is Your Web Site A Secret? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970813010454.22513B-100000@general3.asu.edu>

    Okay, who's the joker who sent that one here?

    ~Eckie gets his shotgun

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 01:58:13 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ROFLMAO! Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970813015811.00820820@postoffice.syspac.com>

    At 09:57 PM 8/12/97 -0700, you wrote: >>I never get these curses followed by smileys. Whenever I see one of these, >>I picture Micky Mouse saying "fuck you" to me and then giving me a candy >>bar. Why not just say "fucking idiot?" Fuck smileys.

    If anyone here wants a .jpg of Mickey Mouse flipping you off, e-mail me ;)

    Vincent LuPone VGL@syspac.COM

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:20:59 +0200 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: fuckin jew Message-ID: <v03007800b0172c2f3bbf@[128.178.99.38]>

    >> From: omeraron@mail.netvision.net.il >> Subject: shut the fuck up and listen to me for a second!!!!!! >> 1)there will not be a bonus tracks to the japanese version of FII!!! >> do you know why?!?!?!? >> i'll tell you!! >> because the totall run of the normal version of the cd is 78 fucking >> minutes!!! and the maximum length of a cd is 79 minutes!! so if they >> wanna have a bonus track they will have to do it very very fast,if >> you know what i mean.....

    why don't you just go to a marketplace and wait for a bomb to blow in your face, huh?

    dumbass

    just get a clue, right?

    __________________ Dave King

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:09:09 +0300 From: love.office@wireless.ee (Love Office) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2861 Message-ID: <33F187C5.21E4@wireless.ee>

    PLEASE DO NOT SEND THIS INFORMATION ON THIS ADERESS ANY MORE. THE PERSON WHO USED TO READ IT HAS LEFT WORK AND NOW UNFORTUNATELY NO ONE NEEDS IT...

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    Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:13:36 +0300 (EET DST) From: Raivo Hool <raitz@guvatrak.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: pointless rambling, subject to be skipped Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970813130131.13519A-100000@lahmaat.guvatrak.ee>

    Hell-o

    First off: can at least some of you refrain from posting two-meter-long signatures? Whereas I understand that long sigs reduce the factor of flames and bullshit on the Jam, thus increasing its probable quality and adding at least some pith to it, they're still redundant.

    Secondly: if there really must be a sig, is there actually a good reason to create those of Dream Theater/Rush/Queensryche lyrics that most people here know by heart anyway? Kind of reminds me those lyrics (did it again): "I take your words and try them on, it's a perfect fit boy".

    I know I am too guilty in the first degree of not changing the sigs all the time, but at least I try to keep them devoid of Dream Theater lyrics (I mean, DO I GET OFF if I repeat them to those who already know them anyway?) and at a reasonable length. <-- Holier-than-thou.

    Huh. I think I've done my best to start the sig wars again.

    Raitz

    "I am the biggest Metallica fan in the world. I have three teeth. I play Gibson Ru Paul like Nicky Six from Roses and Guns."

    At The IRC's, the other night

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