YTSEJAM Digest 2864
Today's Topics:
1) re: kzoo
by jsj@ix.netcom.com (J. E. James)
2) fates tomorrow night, and man, am i ever hyped
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
3) FBI
by jsj@ix.netcom.com (J. E. James)
4) Re: fuckin jew
by Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
5) Bloody Arse--Air, and, I need it, man
by caber1@concentric.net
6) 30 Carpe Diem cd's available
by Marcel Berkhout <berkhout@xs4all.nl>
7) Tour Date
by didier goidin <goidin@broca.inserm.fr>
8) Nothing really important
by caber1@concentric.net
9) Love Office?
by Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com>
10) Re: Bahr
by Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
11) Thank you ...
by MakTs <MakTs@compuserve.com>
12) Online shopping
by MakTs <MakTs@compuserve.com>
13) Re: Is Your Web Site a Secret?
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
14) Price refunds?
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
15) if ya cunt beat 'em...
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:50:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: jsj@ix.netcom.com (J. E. James)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: kzoo
Message-ID: <199708131550.KAA10594@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com>
>Any 'jammers from the Kalamazoo, MI area?
>
>
>Jason
Kalamazoo is an actual place? I thought it was just a place Primus made up for a
song.
Lord Mutilo
jsj@ix.netcom.com
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:55:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: Recipients of a Multiplicative List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: fates tomorrow night, and man, am i ever hyped
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970813114951.2475D-100000@stargate.rs.itd.umich.edu>
just wish i could stop competing with a dwarf for the title of "sneezy"
Allergies stink :(
DT, on the other hand, roolz
listening to acos for the first time in a while yesterday (i think i got
APSOG iced, so i went for something else)....forgotten how bad that bull
was getting raped....good stuff, say I
and then I listened to I&W and LTL don' wanna play for me, scratches on
your all time fave CD really stink too.....
right now, I'm on one of those anti-histamine highs......you know how
actifed makes you drowsy? well, it affects me beyond sleep....had 6 hours
of sleep, and i'm still light headed from that 4 am tab.....good stuff
say I.........
the whole world is spinning around me
partha
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:04:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: jsj@ix.netcom.com (J. E. James)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FBI
Message-ID: <199708131604.LAA17807@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com>
>I sent a 2 page report on Justin to the FBI (internet-criminal@fbi.gov)
>i work for the government myself, i think this will take care of him,
>can I be of any help other than that, i look for ppl like that and erase
>them, the fbi should be on his door in a week or so, until then don't
>answer the threats.
>
>Dr. Roswell, WC, US
Too bad I work for that govt agency mentioned in "Conspiracy Theory" that is
like the Uncle nobody ever talks about and the FBI can't touch me :) Did
anybody see this movie yet? I thought it was better than Face Off.
Lord Mutilo
jsj@ix.netcom.com
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 12:40:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: fuckin jew
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970813123804.5123C-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
On Wed, 13 Aug 1997 akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch wrote:
> why don't you just go to a marketplace and wait for a bomb to blow in your
> face, huh?
>
> dumbass
>
> just get a clue, right?
Hey Dave:
To unsubscribe, email <ytse-request@ax.com> with "asdf" in the subject.
Then put "Unsubscribe ytsejam David King" in the body of the message.
Trust me, you'll be doing all of us a favor.
Brandon
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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 12:08:46 -0700
From: caber1@concentric.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bloody Arse--Air, and, I need it, man
Message-ID: <33F35734.7200@concentric.net>
Hi everyone,
> From: Dark Tower <voice@gonzo.wolfenet.com>
> Subject: Singing and the Cold
> Also, the voice is not an amp, even Sebastian Bach, aka Marshall Mouth, is
> using a vocal cord and musculature to produce sound.
Well, I didn't mean that the voice is an amp. But, now you got me
thinking. This is a question for all you physics majors out there....I
forget how the voice is different from the strings/"those things on
drums...heads?" and their amps. But let's say you're singing in 79
degree weather. Would your voice be louder if it was 70 degrees? I know
an amp would be. But I'm not sure about the voice(throat, and, vocal
box).
Side Note: I remember it had to do with compressed air. If this is true
for the voice, we might see JLB singing a stage spraying compressed air
around himself, while our ears start pouring blood! YEAH!!! :)
---- Hey, could someone please send me jam #2857? I never got it, and, I would like to have it.John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 19:12:01 +0200 From: Marcel Berkhout <berkhout@xs4all.nl> To: Ytsejam mailinglist <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: 30 Carpe Diem cd's available Message-ID: <33F1EAE1.18BC9E12@xs4all.nl>
Hi all!
I've been away fo a while due to a LOT of problems with my cd writer(s), but I have a new one now and it's hasn't let me down (yet) :) So, I have a new offer for all of you that missed out on the first batch of 'Carpe Diem cd's.
I have about 30 (cd-r) labels with the Carpe Diem print on it left, so I thought, why not make another 30 Carpe Diem cd's. Since Mike changed his price to $20, I thought I'd do it too. The cdr discs are a lot cheaper nowadays, so it's possible.
So that's $20 for a FULL show with the new 'A Change of Seasons' AND a 8-10 page (depends on how you count it) FULL COLOR booklet to go with it. that's not much! Reading the last 10 digests I know that there are some people on the list who think it is a lot of money, but I only have one thing to say to them: DON'T BUY THE CD. simple!
Tracklist for Carpe Diem - LIVE will not always be this way:
1. Intro - 2:08 2. Under a Glass Moon - 7:32 3. Lifting Shadows of a Dream - 6:26 4. Voices - 10:56 5. A Change of Seasons - 22:59 6. Another Day - 4.39 7. 6:00 - 8:38
These tracks were recorded on July 8th 1995 at the Bospop festival in Weert, The Netherlands.
Here's what to do if you want a copy of 'Carpe Diem'
At first I'll restrict the reservations to one cd per person. If it turns out that only a few people are interested in 'Carpe Diem' (I HOPE NOT!) I'll cancel that restriction.
ok, here we go:
* Send a (private) email message to: berkhout@xs4all.nl (Subject: Carpe Diem reservation) * In the message please state your NAME, FULL ADDRESS (snail mail) and EMAIL ADDRESS.
* If you have any questions about 'Carpe Diem' please email me at the same address (Subject : Carpe Diem question)
As soon as I have 30 reservations, I'll email you all privately with instructions on payment, shipping etc......
Well, I guess that's about it.
Oh before I forget, I have one more NEW piece of information and that is that as soon as the 30 'Carpe Diem' cd's are shipped, there's a reasonable chance I'll start on a new cd project. It won't be a 2CD set, but it will be very very interesting for all of you! that's all I will say about it for now.
Thanks and take care,
Marcel Berkhout berkhout@xs4all.nl
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:19:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: didier goidin <goidin@broca.inserm.fr> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tour Date Message-ID: <l03020900b017b8dc06f5@[193.49.126.152]>
>as you all know,i'm from israel, >and i've never see DT,FW,QS or anything that can moves in a live >show!!! >so,i finally going to a trip to holland,france, and italy, and i have >to find any band(megadeth,metallica,DT,fates,anything that like! i >trust you guys!!!) and tell me if they r preforming in those countrys >in october 10-30 . > >PLEASE! PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
Hi, I'm french and in october MEGADETH is on tour in france (24-10-97 au zenith) stratovarius, conception and elegy (3-10-97 a la locomotive)
if you want more details mail me privatly
bye
didier
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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 12:31:17 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Nothing really important Message-ID: <33F35D04.71D9@concentric.net>
Hi everyone,
> From: Seroussi <seroussi@algonet.se> > Subject: subject lines suck... > yeah, let's all post comments containing two words...(ie, "me too", "I > agree")....spreading the fucking love all over the jams...
Is that "one whole [fucking] jam?" Let's also keeping this new found "love" by using the word 'fuck,' shall we. [yes, I'm in my "shall we" stage of life =] > hmm...is this from personal experience? I never noticed that porn sites > don't last...
Is that from personal experience? I've noticed that porn sites just don't get enough hits. Come on, everyone let's all go to http://www.pornallstars.com right now. [if that URL actually works, tell me]
John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:19:04 -0400 From: Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Love Office? Message-ID: <199708132019.QAA13050@darkstar.icdc.com>
>Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:09:09 +0300 >From: love.office@wireless.ee (Love Office) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2861 >Message-ID: <33F187C5.21E4@wireless.ee> >
Take me to the Love Office, eh? I need to, like, collate some copies. And making the coffee takes on all new meaning...
<guffaw>
Oh, lordy, what have I done?
Brian Henderson, Uncanny X-Cyberburlap Cyberburlap@icdc.com
"The specialist won't hurt me, he's not like the nuns..." -- Dead Milkmen
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:31:41 -0400 From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Bahr Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970813153139.007c2670@pop.internal.mindspring.com>
>What is he, a drug dealer?? When it comes down to it what he does is >illegal and not cool. Brian Cox said himself he had DATs of stuff Bahr is >going to make a profit of. Look around and trade. It's worth it.
I think this is a bit of an oversimplification. People are generally hatin' it when they don't have anything to trade. You can get so far on 2:1, but people generally only trade for common shows 2:1. I know I won't trade 2:1 the Euro '97 show I have. So what are people supposed to do? They end up with the common tapes that everyone has and you expect them to be able to trade for rare stuff like Mike puts on his CDs? It's just not that easy. I only have the Euro show because a certain unnamed bootlegger that is currently being heavily maligned was kind enough to tape it off of DAT for me - for free. If he were just into the money making and didn't give a damn about the band or the people he markets to, I would never have gotten that show. Mike is one of the most ethical businessmen I've dealt with. You mentioned Brian Cox in your previous posts. He is an excellent example of the problems encountered in simple boot trading. Let me first say that I have absolutely _NO_ problem with Brian, I'm just using him as an example. When I was first trading a couple of years ago I found Brian's list (and an excellent list it is) and was hoping to do a 2:1 with him. I sent an email every 2 to 3 weeks asking extremely politely for a couple of tapes at 2:1, and even 3:1. Never got a reply at all. Because of this and other situations like it, I always try my hardest to at LEAST get back to the trader even if I'm not interested or don't have time. Alot of people don't seem to have this common courtesy. This is very common for new, and even veteran, tape traders, and shows that trading will not work for alot of people. Media is a concern as well. I would say that at least 99% of people on this list would much prefer having a show(s) on CD than tape if just for sound quality reasons. DAT is great, but most people can't afford the player, and DAT media is expensive. Bahr provides the convience and quality of CD at what I consider a very fair price, not to mention the fact that he just dropped his prices 20% even before this flaming of him began. This is all my opinion, but it's a fact that alot of folks simply don't have the time and resources available to nag people until they can trade for themselves. If you don't like Mike's method, I can certainly respect that and I understand your points, but I would ask you to respect that others do enjoy it and let it be. Take care...
____________________________________ Adam Pye (Alpine) Mindspring Technical Support alpineone@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone (Above URL for bootlist w/ setlists) ____________________________________
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:42:28 -0400 From: MakTs <MakTs@compuserve.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Thank you ... Message-ID: <199708131542_MC2-1D13-BD5B@compuserve.com>
>>> From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch >>> Subject: fuckin jew >>> =
>>> why don't you just go to a marketplace and wait for a bomb to blow in=
your >>> face, huh? >>> =
>>> dumbass >>> =
>>> just get a clue, right?
Thank you very much Dave! With your words and your .ch mail account you d= id a great job in feeding prejudices about Switzerland and Swiss people! :((= ( (Dave is an English student in Lausanne/Switzerland.)
>>why don't you just go to the bank and continue assisting the nazis?
Thank you, too. I won't go too deep into the subject but please: If in those days highest bank executives and some particular politicians in my country did all those awful things please don't condemn the whole country= ! Most of our old generation still can hardly or simply not believe what ha= s happened *behind their back* while they were standing at the frontier rea= dy to defend the country. They were proud of being a part of the one country=
with by far the highest percentage of refugees relative to the number of residents. They were proud of being a part of the only small still democratic country in Europe while surrounded by nothing than fascistic nations at war. They didn't know what was going on on a higher business level! Only few knew then.
And now, my generation is sick of being accused of what has happened *then*. We are ashamed about those bad deals some made and hope that today's politicians find a way to somehow "do justice" (and of course we all know that unfortunately this will never really be possible) to all those who suffered and were victims of those dark days.
So far for racism, politics and the past. Thank you for reading! ...and please, for us all: don't make it a big thread!
Cheers! Mak
PS: Missing music content? Sorry 'bout that, really had to vent! Just wat= ch my next post!
=2E............................................ They say there are strangers, who threaten us In our immigrants and infidels They say there is strangeness, too dangerous In our theatres and bookstore shelves
Quick to judge Quick to anger Slow to understand
Ingnorance and prejudice And fear Walk hand in hand - Neil Peart
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:47:39 -0400 From: MakTs <MakTs@compuserve.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Online shopping Message-ID: <199708131547_MC2-1D0C-79F3@compuserve.com>
Hi again!
Hey, I know you know! So could you please give me some tips:
I bet many of you have made plenty of experiences with online CD shopping= =2E But for me as a greenhorn there are so many CD sites out there... so can someone please give me some tips for good places: reliable, cheap, fast, doing foreign shipments (to Switzerland/Europe), having a lot of prog and=
offering generally a good service. That's what I'm looking for.
Looking forward to your help! Thanks in advance! Cheers! Mak =2E..................................................... Wheels within wheels in a spiral array A pattern so grand and complex Time after time we lose sight of the way Our causes can't see their effects. - Neil Peart
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Date: 13 Aug 97 12:09:20 -0700 From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Is Your Web Site a Secret? Message-ID: <199708132001.NAA09745@mailseq4.us.oracle.com>
Spammer wrote: >Subject: Re: Is Your Web Site A Secret? If his service is so good, how come he has to spam mailing lists for publicity... ;) -Neil.
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:06:07 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Price refunds? Message-ID: <199708132006.NAA28141@goodnet.com>
Actually, the price drop was originally intended to affect Mosaic and everything after that, and I'm just spreading it across the board in order to give everyone a break. I timed the price drop very specifically: there were NO orders en route to me at the time, excepting perhaps one or two discs worth, and therefore there's no overlap to refund the price differences. Besides, coughing up $5 to 500 people won't exactly help speed up production. :) I hope people see that I'm just running this the logical way and not trying to be a dick or anything.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:17:59 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsecrap'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: if ya cunt beat 'em... Message-ID: <01BCA838.15203B00@ns.globalxs.nl>
Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> : >> Someone needs to >> >> beat the living shit >> out of you. :) Fucking idiot. :) > > I never get these curses followed by smileys. Whenever I see one of > these, I picture Micky Mouse saying "fuck you" to me and then giving > me a candy bar. Why not just say "fucking idiot?" Fuck smileys. that was my response to Lars "coxucker" Hellsten's "Someone needs to get a fucking life. :)" (notice the smiley) remark. About that "fuck smileys" stuff... Smiley's can prevent a lot of misunderstandings and maybe even flamewars. But who fucking cares. You won't find any smileys in the rest of this post.
Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com> > how the fuck am i stabbing anybody in the back?? Oh, i dunno... You could've taken things to private email instead of talking crap about Bahr on the list. TRy durnik@goodnet.com You're talking about informing DT's managment to save your ass, because DT knows you made the DAT. NEWSFLASH! They already KNOW Bahr makes those boots. If they don't care that Bahr makes the cds why should they care who provided the source for them ?
> i didnt get a penny for it and i had no part of the creation of it. And that's what's really bothering you, right ?
> mark, if i ever see you at a show or at a ytsecon or something, > you better be prepared to back up your "coxucker" comment. Not very likely, since I'm from holland.
"dr Roswell" <dr_roswell@hotmail.com> : > I sent a 2 page report on Justin to the FBI > (internet-criminal@fbi.gov) i work for the government myself, i think > this will take care of him
a Doctor using a hotmail address ? dr Roswell = dr d ?
> From: owl@owlsnest.com > Is your web site the best kept secret on the Internet? No fucking way
> We will submit your site to 50 indexes and search engines for $85. or just register your homepage with over 100 indexes and search engines for absofuckinglutely nothing at http://www.broadcaster.co.uk
> HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? > Generally, we complete the submissions within 48 hours of > receiving your order. It can take any individual search engine or > index up to three weeks to process your submission, although most are > much faster. Yeah right, lotsa search engines take well over a month before spidering your website. Three weeks my ass. Cool, I'm responding to spam now.
> From: love.office@wireless.ee (Love Office) > PLEASE DO NOT SEND THIS INFORMATION ON THIS ADERESS ANY MORE. > THE PERSON WHO USED TO READ IT HAS LEFT WORK AND NOW UNFORTUNATELY NO > ONE NEEDS IT... There's a lotta love in that message
> From: Pedro Filipe <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt> > Can anyone send me the complete 'Pull Me Under' guitar tab > (preferably from the official scores)? TRy under a Cyber Moon at http://www.prognosis.com/dream/
> From: caber1@concentric.net > I didn't get jam #2857. Could someone send it over my way? I didn't get it either. bummer
> From: "D" <zayas@frontiernet.net> > I want you to discontinue sending me this newsletter What fucking news ?
> From: John Happe <jared@home.stlnet.com> > I would like to unsubscribe to the jam. Smart move ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THE YTSEJAM : _ _____ ___ _ _ __ __ Address: ytsejam-request@ax.com |:||_.:._|/:._]|:]_[:|\.\_/./ Subject: asdf |:| |:| (.:(_ |:___:| \_::/ Message: unsubscribe ytsejam <yourname> |_| [_] \___]|_] [_| [__/ _________________________________________________________________________ Itchy's http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/ H Website http://www.a-vip.com/H They are fuckin' TRASH. I'd put them in a trash can. FUCK YOU !!! DIE !!!
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