YTSEJAM Digest 2869
Today's Topics:
1) Fates in Cleveland
by jemmons@neo.lrun.com (John Emmons)
2) Japanese versions, Faq stuff and other crap
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
3) Fish Concert review in Cleveland's Scene Magazine
by jemmons@neo.lrun.com (John Emmons)
4) Last Tuesday, Fates at Mabel's Pt. 1.
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
5)
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
6) Fates Review Pt 2.
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
7) CD encoding
by NightCast <nightcast@usa.net>
8) Fates at House of Blues Sunday
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
9) Re: Fates Review Pt 2.
by Fern Fryer! <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
10) Unclassified: Angra Live and Andre Matos Voice
by Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
11) CD and sampling tech
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:58:17 +0100
From: jemmons@neo.lrun.com (John Emmons)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fates in Cleveland
Message-ID: <v01540b01b018cc163b28@[204.210.205.63]>
Max, (and any other Cleveland Jammers wondering where the show is...)
>Can anyone tell me what time the show starts,
>or who to call for ticket information?
Yes...the show is this Friday at Sidekicks (2139 Broadview Road)
their phone is (216) 749-7555 and there should still be plenty of tickets
left. I am not sure where Sidekicks is, but it is supposed to be "7 lights
north of Brookpark road". Anyway, it should be a great show with all of
ApsoG being played, though, be warned there are 3 other opening bands, so
Fates may not go on until 11:00 or 12:00...but at least we get and hour +
of music..for a reasonable price!
Hope this helps all those Cleveland Jammers!
Enjoy the show!
Maria
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 21:24:36 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsecrap'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Japanese versions, Faq stuff and other crap
Message-ID: <01BCA8FC.C194A320@McCoy.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Carlos A. Alfaro wrote :
> angels cry
> chega de saussade (i think i spelled it right)
Nope, it's Lasaude ;-)
> my name is omer!!!!!!!!!!!
> not homer!!!!
Doh !
Steven C. Young wrote :
> I still don't understand why Japan gets all of the good stuff first.
Local releases are a lot more expensive than imports in Japan (weird
but true). They have to release albums earlier in Japan, and make them
a bit more special, in order to sell local copies at all. It sucks for
people anywhere else, because they often have to pay through the nose
to get the extra stuff :-/ Usually, the extra stuff is also released
on the singles, though... Marillion's "This Strange Engine" has two
extra unplugged tracks on the Japanese version... They were released
later as bsides on the "Man of a Thousand Faces" single. The Japanese
version of Fish' "Sunsets on Empire" has a bonus track that was also
released on a single in the rest of the world. Of course, this is not
always the case.
Ytse-Elitist Eckie wrote :
> Yeah, I'm the big mouth who said "read the faq" first. Ya got a
> problem wit DAT!? Didn't tink so, foo! Seriously, I'm expecting
> another barrage of questions like,
>
> What movie are the clips on A Change of Seasons from?
Well, there's a sample from "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure"
in there somewhere... Most of it was taken from "Wayne's World",
though...
> Is Derek Sherinian gay?
Yeah. James LaBrie is his lover. That's how he got in the band.
James' real first name is actually John... They figured three John's
in the same band would be too confusing. James also considered using
the name Kevin, so there'd be two John's and two Kevin's in the band.
Mike Bahr was supposed to be the second Mike, when they considered
him as the producer of Awake...
> What does the symbol mean? Where did they get it?
They got the symbol from a misprint of the WDADU cover, when they
were still using the name Majesty. Some of the letters got printed
over eachother... They kinda liked it and started using it as their
symbol. It has no real meaning.
> What's with the flaming heart?
It's supposed to be one of those candy hearts... Kevin Moore used
to set them on fire for fun. He once accidentally burnt down his
parent's house that way. The barbed wire is kind of a warning for
kids not to "try this at home".
Chris Ptacek wrote :
>> i need to make some of you understand something very very
>> importent,and i hope that finaly someone will understand!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Important to you, or important to me?
No, he meant he's impotent.
Bafu Vai wrote :
> Boy, I remember my first time, oooh it was so good...
Did the sheep like it too ?
> From: Rocky Dean <iban@mindspring.com>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: DT Parody "Wait for sheep"
Fuck, I was just about to write a parody with that title...
I'm still working on a porn version of Metropolis, though :-)
It'll be called Wet-Throbolis :-))
Mark
____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__
But like a needle in a haystack _ _____ ___ _ _ __ __
the truth gets so disguised |:||_.:._|/:._]|:]_[:|\.\_/./
in a kingdom built on madness and on lies. |:| |:| (.:(_ |:___:| \_::/
(Marillion, Holloway girl) |_| [_] \___]|_] [_| [__/
_________________________________________________________________________
Dream Theater online "Under A Cyber Moon" http://www.prognosis.com/dream/
Itchy's http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/ H Website http://www.a-vip.com/H
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:12:56 +0100
From: jemmons@neo.lrun.com (John Emmons)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fish Concert review in Cleveland's Scene Magazine
Message-ID: <v01540b02b018d02c30e1@[204.210.205.63]>
There is a review of Fish's concert in Cleveland, Ohio in Scene magazine.
If you are interested
in reading it and also an interview with Alice Cooper, go to
http://www.clevescene.com/
Click on the current issue and the review is under Livewire. The interview
is listed separately.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:49:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Last Tuesday, Fates at Mabel's Pt. 1.
Message-ID: <199708142049.PAA00739@enteract.com>
Fates Warning Review Pt. 1 (In 12 parts)
----------------------------------------
I dragged a good friend kicking and screaming to see Fates Warning in Champaign, IL
this past Tuesday. It was a 2 hour drive from here in Chicago to the now deserted (summer
session has ended and fall session begins in 2 or 3 weeks) U of I campus. We met up with a
big time Rycher friend who lives on campus over the summer, and walked around, stepping over
tumbleweed, and occasionally hearing the wind whistle through the vast, barren college campus.
On the way down, I expected there to be a lot of people waiting for this show... the
campus is usually extremely crowded, and this is the only bar in town that plays metal shows.
I was mistaken.
After waiting outside what looked to be a tiny little club for about an hour past when
they said the doors should open, we were finally ushered in and carded (19 and over) to get
in. The club was bigger on the inside than it seemed from the outside. The stage was
acceptable, about 3' tall, and spanning from wall to wall. They had a desk at which a man was
selling 2 Fates shirts, both a little disappointing, but also acceptable. One is Gray with
blue lettering, saying "Fates Warning, a Pleasant Shade of Gray" on the front upper left
(badge style) and in big letters on the back it said "Let Nothing Bleed into Nothing" on the
top, and at the bottom, right over your ass, it says _This_ Shade of Gray, or something to
that effect. The shirt seemed to have been designed by whoever designed the shirt Ray was
wearing... his was green, and on the front, across the chest it said "Train of Thought" in
yellow, and on the back it had "Deliberate" n big yellow letters printed right at the
bottom, again, right over your ass. The grey shirt turned out to be the wiser shirt to buy...
read on for why. The other shirt is black and long sleeved... it's a cooler looking shirt,
with a new "Ford" looking Fates logo repeating down the right sleeve. Pretty similar in other
aspects, as I recall. I'll be seeing them again on Sunday, so anyone who didn't get a shirt (I
don't think they were offering them at some of the other shows)
EMAIL ME, NOT THE LIST, at someone@prognosis.com and place an order.
As I said, the shirts are cool enough, but very little graphics (I vastly prefer the design of
the Ytsejam T-Shirt). I will be happy to buy as many shirts as anyone needs, but in this
situation, I can't mail them to you until I receive payment. Contact me for further details.
We expected a lot from the opening band... we had heard rumors about this being some
great prog band from a local town, and were pretty pumped. Disappointed that it wasn't Divine
Regale, yes, but pumped nonetheless.
Let me tall ya, folks, the band was called Hate Choir, and there is nothing worse. I
would rather have been bleeding from my right nad all show than have to sit through that crap
again. This band couldn't decide if they wanted to be D.R.I., Slayer, or Black Flag...
whatever they were doing, they were doing it wrong. They repeatedly insulted the crowd for
not enjoying their music (I use the term loosely) and played worse than anyone can imagine.
This is beyond bad, folks. I am absolutely not shitting anyone about this, but during their
set, I actually started thinking "I would rather be watching the Spice Girls live or Coolio
live than this" and I started some creative visualization, in hopes that maybe I could make
myself hear Spice Girls and see Spice Girls, and not have to endure this unpleasant shade od
pain. They were too powerful... I failed.
When the torture ended, one of the main guys in the Fates crew came down to us in the
crowd and said in sort of a whisper, "What the fuck was that?" He didn't look like he was
joking... he looked as though he truly didn't know. Unfortunately, I couldn't answer him... I
didn't know for sure either.
During the opening act a few more people came in and we almost had what looked like a
crowd there, but I realized there were maybe 3 layers of people by the stage... the place was
empty. I spotted Mark Zonder in the back of the room signing autographs, but figured they'd
be on soon, so I left him alone, and kept my spot at center stage, fondling the left monitor
(which I was pounding to pieces with my fists during the show).
Fates came out shortly after, to some level of applause. During the sampled beginning
of the song (Everything before the "So where do we begin" is sampled, like DT did with PMU and
Metropolis when I saw them, to add effect when they come out on the stage) Ray took a
disappointed look around the gathering, and said into the mic "Now don't yall crush each other
to death out there." Jim Matheos looked depressed at the small number of people waiting for
the show. We found out later that there were only 93 people in attendance.
The sound effects built up to a peak and Ray said "Ooooooooh feel that tension
building! Spooooooky!" just joking around. He was proving to be very good at getting a
response from the crowd, even before he started singing.
They broke full on into APSoG, and I have to say, I haven't been so impressed with an
execution in my life. They sounded at parts JUST LIKE THE ALBUM, and at other parts BETTER.
It was truly stunning. The band far exceeded my picky expectations. If you don't like Fates
Warning, you should consider shelling out the $10 and seeing them on this tour, to see if that
doesn't change your mind. It is something that I feel completely honored to have seen, not
unlike the first wave of the G3 show in Chicago (Which was the show the guys all said in a
Guitar Mag interview was their favorite). There's no way Dream Theater is better than this
band. Maybe equal (I dunno) but no one is like this band, and no one I've ever seen has put
on a better show. They had no fog, minimal lighting, and no tricks or anything... they made
all of the effects with their instruments.
The crowd of 93 startled the hell out of the band, because we were all completely
raging and screaming at every break. It was pure energy in there. Mark Zonder commented
later that it was the loudest 93 people he'd ever heard. Everyone there was a Fates fan, and
everyone was singing along, especially during 11th Hour in the encore, when Ray held the Mic
stand out above us.
They continued through, and during the heavier songs, about a measure before Ray would
come in, he'd run to the mic and go "BEEP" and just hop back grinning. We were just DYING.
After a flawless performance of APSoG, the band stood there catching their breath, as we
screamed for an encore. When the crowd calmed and Ray was about to speak, the guy next to me
yelled "ONE MORE TIME!", and Matheos looked like he was gonna fall over laughing. I think
they really appreciated the enormous crowd response... I think this music is being very poorly
marketed. I think this could appeal to ANY fans of contemporary rock/alternative/prog/metal
music.
They played 5 more songs: Life in Still Water, Monument, We Only Say Goodbye, Face the
Fear, and The Eleventh Hour, all of which were perfect, with the exception of the keys taking
Frank's solos. The keys sounded great, but there's no way you can really replace a raging
guitar solo with a keyboard solo. I've never heard a band pull that off well, and I've heard
it attempted several times. I thought the keyboards and bass were excellent. Very well done.
The guitars were even better, and the drums were amazing. Still, Ray shined above them all.
Ray Alder is easily my favorite vocalist by a long shot. I think any of the Alder-haters on
this list would change their opinions if they saw them on this tour. Full on AMAZING.
I don't think I missed a word, singing along with the band. I was going completely
psycho. I sang the LaBrie harmonies as loud as I could in Life in Still Water, and tried to
add any harmonies that I didn't hear Joey Vera singing (he was the only one doing backing
vocals).
Stay Tuned...
--Chris Ptacek at EnterAct, L.L.C -- (773) 248 8511 http://www.enteract.com (business) http://www.prognosis.com/madsman/ (my contribution to --------------------------------- the vast wealth of "To err is human... to suck out | underdeveloped one's brain with an orally | web sites) deployed flesh tube is not."-MS| **************** ---------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 16:54:42 -0400 From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199708142050.QAA27000@kira.ici.net>
>6. contrary to what d. khoe said, i am not a "bootlegger". i tape > shows.
I checked on the back of my ticket stubs for some concerts, and nearly all of them have a clause on there that says that taping or broadcasting the shows is illegal. But this is all just semantics, really. Call yourself a taper if you want, it's still bootlegging. I don't know why you attach such a negative connotation to *that word*.
-----
_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________ E-mail: psull@ici.net IRC: DDictator WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html NP: Drain STH - "Horror Wrestling" ______________________________________________________________
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:50:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates Review Pt 2. Message-ID: <199708142050.PAA01019@enteract.com>
Equipment that I recall off the top of my head:
Guitars: Ovation steel string acoustic (most of which sound the same) and a PRS blue flame maple top body, with the bird inlays. I'm sure there's a model name for the guitar, but I don't care. :) Couldn't tell if it was neck through body or bolt on. He played through a Mesa Boogie head (which he had mounted in a rack) and a bunch of effects. I'll try to write down all of the equipment at the show on Sunday. He also had two Mesa Boogie 4 X 12 cabs that looked like the older metal grilled Rectifier cabs, but the logo said Mesa Boogie, and the Rectifiers say Mesa Engineering, I believe. Drums: No change in the kit from the last time I saw it on a poster... I forget the brand... GMS or something like that. A ton of cymbals and several electronic pads (He uses these extensively on everything from Parallels through APSoG, and I wouldn't have enjoyed the show so much had the sounds been absent). Bass: Huge Ampeg cab, and about 3 or 4 different basses. The only one I recall clearly was a Fender with a maple neck. He was on the other side of the stage for most of the show. He did crack out the fretless for a few tunes. Keys: Two Ensoniq keybards. I'll be sure to write down the models during the next show... I was too busy being dazzled by FATES WARNING to pay that much attention to those details.
After the show, we ran out to the bus, to try and beat them to it. We failed... they must have made a break for it. About twenty people gathered with us though, and we presented a compelling argument for the band to come out and say hi. One of the dudes in the crew came out, and we accosted him, "Are they coming out, or WHAT?!" He told us not to go anywhere. Ray popped out and said in a squeaky high pitched joking voice "Whassup, People!" and then told us he had to do a quick interview and that he'd be back. A couple college reporter type people hopped up on the bus, and people were all mocking them like "I'm cool. I have a magazine. Look at me, everyone!" The crew guy came out again, and gave out a limited number of 8 X 10 glossy promo pictures of the band, one of which I managed to snag. I got that, two cd inserts, and (the reason why the grey shirt is better than the black one) my shirt autographed by the whole band. I'll be scanning the promo picture and putting that online (particularly because I think Mr. Kizer's gonna want that for his page) so you can all check it out and learn how to forge their names. My voice was shot to hell when I was talking to the band, and I told Ray I didn't know how he did it every night, since I probably couldn't sing more than one octave by the time they finished their set. He said that he loses his voice all the time after shows, but you can sort of feel when you're doing damage and when you're just working your limit. I think we turned what they thought would be a dismal night into a memorable one for them. I was floored, and Fates will remain my favorite band. I didn't see any jammers at the show. Very disappointing. One guy there has been following the Fates newsgroup forever, and he took what had to be some AMAZING photos during the show. He said he'll be scanning them and putting them up on his page and on the newsgroup, so keep your eyes peeled in the next couple days.
That's all! Thanks for reading!
Chris Ptacek at EnterAct, L.L.C -- (773) 248 8511 http://www.enteract.com (business) http://www.prognosis.com/madsman/ (my contribution to --------------------------------- the vast wealth of "To err is human... to suck out | underdeveloped one's brain with an orally | web sites) deployed flesh tube is not."-MS| **************** ---------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:26:32 -0600 From: NightCast <nightcast@usa.net> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CD encoding Message-ID: <01BCA8CA.910957A0@tron>
------ =_NextPart_000_01BCA8CA.91127F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>Well, you guys are missing something. We have heard that the new nasty >producer has watered things down, right ?? Well, a normal CD is = encoded >using 16 bits per sample. I figure that with the watering down, they >can probably pull it off using only, say, 13 bits per sample. If 16 >bits creates a maximum of 80 minutes per disk, then 13 bits would allow >for about (getting calculator out) 98.4 minutes. This 13 bit encoding >is how they will be able to fit an extra 18 minutes onto the disk >(Japanese only). =20
>I bet they tried to get it down to 12 bits per sample (which would have >been 26 extra minutes) and just couldn't do it. That is why they = didn't >even attempt to record Metropolis Part 2 in the studio. =20
Dude, what are you smoking? ALL CDs are encoded using 16 bits. CD = players can't handle anything else.
Now DVD, on the other hand.. That'll be a whole new story. Assuming = audio DVD discs become a mainstream idea. I don't know if I could = imagine a 35 hour new DT release.. But I wouldn't be complaining if I = saw one!
------ =_NextPart_000_01BCA8CA.91127F60 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
eJ8+IgMVAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAdAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAAOwAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHl0c2VqYW1AYXguY29t AFNNVFAAeXRzZWphbUBheC5jb20AAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgADMAEAAAAPAAAAeXRz ZWphbUBheC5jb20AAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABEAAAAneXRzZWphbUBheC5jb20n AAAAAAIBCzABAAAAFAAAAFNNVFA6WVRTRUpBTUBBWC5DT00AAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAB4A9l8B AAAADwAAAHl0c2VqYW1AYXguY29tAAACAfdfAQAAADsAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDdAQ9UAgAA AAB5dHNlamFtQGF4LmNvbQBTTVRQAHl0c2VqYW1AYXguY29tAAADAP1fAQAAAAMA/18AAAAAAgH2 DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAAslGAQSAAQAMAAAAQ0QgZW5jb2RpbmcA7gMBBYADAA4AAADNBwgADgAPABoA IAAEADcBASCAAwAOAAAAzQcIAA4ADwAXABgABAAsAQEJgAEAIQAAADdEQ0Q2RTYwQjcxNEQxMTFC RDlENDQ0NTUzNTQwMDAwAP0GAQOQBgD0CwAAIgAAAAsAAgABAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAAAAAAsA KQABAAAAAwAuAAAAAAACATEAAQAAAL0AAABQQ0RGRUIwOQABAAIATAAAAAAAAAA4obsQBeUQGqG7 CAArKlbCAABtc3BzdC5kbGwAAAAAAE5JVEH5v7gBAKoAN9luAAAAQzpcV0lORE9XU1xvdXRsb29r LnBzdAAYAAAAAAAAAMvau9VM/9ARvZ1ERVNUAACigAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAy9q71Uz/0BG9nURF U1QAAMKAAAAQAAAAfc1uYLcU0RG9nURFU1QAAAwAAABDRCBlbmNvZGluZwAAAAADADYAAAAAAEAA OQAgSGy8+Ki8AR4AcAABAAAADAAAAENEIGVuY29kaW5nAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG8qPi8SmBuzX4U txHRvZ1ERVNUAAAAAB4AHgwBAAAAAwAAAE1TAAAeAB8MAQAAABIAAABGUzEvQUNDRVNTL0pBTUVT VwAAAAMABhB2VcCSAwAHECIDAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAABXRUxMLFlPVUdVWVNBUkVNSVNTSU5HU09N RVRISU5HV0VIQVZFSEVBUkRUSEFUVEhFTkVXTkFTVFlQUk9EVUNFUkhBU1dBVEVSRURUSElOR1NE T1dOLFJJR0hUPz9XRUxMLEFOAAAAAAIBCRABAAAAIggAAB4IAAAgEwAATFpGdQhlLggDAAoAcmNw ZzEyNXIyDGBjMQMwAQcLYG6RDhAwMzMPFmZlD5JPAfcCpANjAgBjaArAc4RldALRcHJxMgAAkioK oW5vElAgMAHQhQHQNg+gMDUwNBQh8wHQFBA0fQdtAoMAUAPU+xH/EwtiE+EUUBOyGPQU0K8HEwKA ApEI5jsJbzAa3/plDjA1HAodIRzfHekb9P8eEhx/IE8gDR+PHb8cDxBg/DI4Jdom8SavJ7kb9Cfi vyZPKh8p3SlfJ48rVDkOUB8upDABKCMwAAKCc3R56mwHkGgJ4HQAABNQA/BQZGN0bAqxXDJYYZhk anUxcAUQZ2gFQjsWMgwBYwnAMmADMHNufGV4FzAHsAWwAMACc3OxAFBzYjIUUDFgYRPw9FxrCeBw C5AyPzKjCGDrMpALgGUxoHY5YAFAM5u/DDA0ZCgAN0AEoAuAZyfx6TTmYmEXEGQCIDWgNUbnMdAz kDuRIDExMw5QNp//N684vwBROfwAoDRuPH89hv8xJA/APo8/n0CvDlA570MP20QfPbMzAoITEGM2 YEuhkzOQPbB0aTmQIEQBEKhhdWwFQFAKwGEJwOBhcGggRgIhNiQlQOhmaS0PkDgBQDkwUDPrRw8y o2ILIHIJUFJSFqDZUlJ3NCVBFwBwAdBNcn8zv0qfS6ZP0E6QBRACMC1DTzADYTogVG9XsFModWJq BZB0V7BEYeh0ZTo2JDZP/1EPUh//Uy9UOTHAPaMOIUuhOrYOUJtVb1Z+UjmBFwEgSD2R+wSQNiQ3 WW9af1uPXJ05Dy9dvw+QaXAI0GIKsHQ4/0n6D1RGEF+/YMZqAGHQC1C8eS9PQFywCxFiRXM2JP8o AGM/ZE9lX1yvVE9rX2xv7211V9JXdFipOW+/Mz8DMB1pszlzn3SveqBEb2P+dQeAAjAF0E8AGgMT EBrwgnYCUSB7VW5reCFpFdJKYQeCVweQT3F933jSeDB4cHFRAYBuWDAAYL8J8E2gfQACATXgXlJl APBLfQAxgHAegFx2CJB3+msLgGRrQILSBPAHQBBhvwFADgBxIj2ChDUCEG8FQjcXIRLyWMBtC1FY wCBDqDpcXFcAb07hbU8wNwMQB5CG4E0N4ANgc2+5AYAgTwEgDeCCIFyIltZFAMADEC5LcHSAABcQ t3hwNSFncngBQIExbjHQ9xrwijRONGN+cRMCAIAFkPxsdkGhRtAOcDXgjMIBkP8AII1SgyF9QQHB jMEW4A9wzwAARtAM0AGQIC59xIzW/w5QjXJOcHjAje+O/5APD8DfRtAFgZGvkr+Tz2xrQEbQ7myR b5YvlzUpkDwlQJUP45nvlyRiICgCkZsPjQP/WVCYv51/no+fn40wYxCg4v+Nv6JPo1+QPCgAoO+m b6d//6iPjTB4AKVvqv+sD60UCvmfipKv0ngveT96zXs+ApBCVxLyYmtta67jIE5ffYADEFihYX1n oGwILCB5CGAgZ3V59wQgCsATgG0EAT3CiEAHgGR0aDuRLiB/kT1wYf9N8T2BbbG50FiwuyETgDVg /QfgbktAMYAKhQKRfiEEAL8JgH4STlC50ABQfiFkAkAcbS0ZcQ5AYwA4MzL+ILYxF3AEcA5wBJC6 cQQgf22QWMAa8bshO5EEIIBBbvO4ILTUPz+6MrgCl4ATUNM14oawRCAEACAJ8AWgfQEAZLxfvW++ fbSgPcM2/CBiTcAEIIKQBcBGUIZR8mW6IUkgbtC4gLjhuzP/A/C50LtzwDM9wsEku4G8T3/E775u g8ADoL9hSzACYHkvx8BOYAMgTcAgiFBmID/G9AIgbTC4IEZQ0HExM//Hf8iBz8BZQMtGCvOyn7Ov /7S2y8/M37710SMFAD2QWMBzuLG5AGF4B3B9IM+RID9vILkBjYDZIsfSPbBza9fK4wOg0PZ3CGBs NSAHQP0JAHfLv9cPvuMKhbYxgaHvuMAG4GdQrIBnFyBN0D3RH4PBfRCGcQWxZ0EpIDnYOC402la6 IVS54AQg/9D0w2Q7kdKf06/Uv9XP3e97vrnDQWjl0MrzyXHPQWL3E4DO0ckRb8ixBUADkTVx/07A PfBqANpmAiHsELuC2yK/5H/lj+af56/ov765KH9A7xMxB5ATgNBCKboh7o/vn//wr/Gzy0/yj759 yKDrgLtj/88AtMHAguwQ4MHPYsEi6/L3DiDRHqyAd7ngFtDcRbqC//Wv9r/3z/G/+n/X6gnhRWD/ x2DspNpl4iANsDUgtJLY0PncYm4n/cLPYeMDu1HjUf//oPzB6vI9sAji+Z8FH98t/2fBsoBYsIYy u2HsEBrwGlDtbbFNFyARoHAaYONRTqFfhYC/ELJxu4IxcHU9sG//9X8BjwKf+K4STxNfA08Lf+sM jxVFRBFQZbgg/6C7UaO40rhCc21vgxFnwfH4QUxMwwG4tMN1z9XHVXe6IcMRhmF5YgHhMUbgcvxx dYVwyRG6cYFA69HscNZ5udPDYGxiIC4VRRVF4zXAu+BEVkS4IEuAu3P3hXCLYSEDLrogCbIgdutV 3wohEAC7pDFw4CB5kCAYv/sZz77wMbowHUC5MH0gPcL/TlARYSNy2xJNMOtxD1B9MP/ZU4MgtLE9 kIdgFsA9kMhz/0txIHh+wsMwz8DIoAijwzDtiaBnZ4HCcTNW4OqgyPB5u7NEVA8hZ7BLQSThQvfg gcig3FNuJ18ob98hS6H/IIfrgSuRskM9wi5jRlC74PlLgGUhMg8zH98qFb8Wz58X3bZ2gTG3STlG fQA+sQE+8AAAAwAQEAEAAAADABEQAQAAAAMAgBD/////QAAHMOB2EUz4qLwBQAAIMOB2EUz4qLwB CwAAgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAA4UAAAAAAAADAAKACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAQ hQAAAAAAAAMABYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFKFAAC3DQAAHgAlgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAA AEYAAAAAVIUAAAEAAAAEAAAAOC4wAAMAJoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAGFAAAAAAAACwAv gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAADoUAAAAAAAADADCACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAARhQAA AAAAAAMAMoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABiFAAAAAAAAHgBBgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYA AAAANoUAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4AQoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADeFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAA AAAeAEOACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA4hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgA9AAEAAAABAAAAAAAA AAMADTT9NwAAjgg=
------ =_NextPart_000_01BCA8CA.91127F60--
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:03:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates at House of Blues Sunday Message-ID: <199708142303.SAA03457@enteract.com>
***Warning. Blatant overuse of caps below. Warning***
ATTENTION FATES PEOPLE, AND PEOPLE WHO SORTA LIKE FATES, N STUFF ----------------------------------------------------------------
You must attend the show this Sunday, at House of Blues in Chicago. It will kill, and you will hurt, and you will love every damn minute of it. If you're on this list, you will LIKE THIS SHOW.
E-Mail me if you're going to the concert. I'm considering organizing a get together here at my office either before or after the show. Right now, all I know is, myself and a few friends as well as the mighty Debbie Seeger will be there. Anyone else planning to attend, or anyone who needs a ride, LET ME KNOW!
DON'T MISS WHAT MAY BE YOUR ONLY CHANCE TO EVER SEE APSOG PERFORMED LIVE!
Mail: someone@prognosis.com
Carlo, it's time for an APSoG .sig, man. :)
--
Chris Ptacek at EnterAct, L.L.C -- (773) 248 8511 http://www.enteract.com (business) http://www.prognosis.com/madsman/ (my contribution to --------------------------------- the vast wealth of "To err is human... to suck out | underdeveloped one's brain with an orally | web sites) deployed flesh tube is not."-MS| **************** ---------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:24:11 -0700 (MST) From: Fern Fryer! <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Fates Review Pt 2. Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.970814161940.102732A-100000@aruba.u.arizona.edu>
The Bass Rig: Ampeg Head Ampeg SVT (8x10, I'm pretty sure) Kramer Fretless (the one with the "metal fork headstock") Fender Jazz 5-string (looks like it had a Precision body up close though.) Fender 4-string (I think)... Several pedals (probably Chorus, EQ and noise gate)
Fernando Ma Materials science & engineering University of Arizona http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma
"I like to work without contracts whenever possible. Contracts mean 'I don't trust you.'" - Victor Wooten
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:13:17 +1000 From: Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Unclassified: Angra Live and Andre Matos Voice Message-ID: <4A2564F4.0000668D.00@nschq-e-navy.navy.gov.au>
Someone asked about the closest person to a genius, Andre Matos, about his voice live. I was a little disappointed with the sound quality on 'Holy Live', but the vocals still sounded great. I doubt it very much if Andre does any studio overdubs, I have a video of him at a club show from the 'Angels Cry' tour and despite the bad quality his voice is spot on and hit those high notes with ease (specially during 'Wuthering Heights') and does killer versions of Maiden's 'Flight Of Icarus' and 'Wasted Years'. I have a CD boot called ' The Gates Of Holy Land' and Andre sounds great on that too, but the boot is really not worth buying, cept for the great cover of Manowar's 'Manowar'.
gRaham.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:43:46 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CD and sampling tech Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970814174329.007058a8@cats.ucsc.edu>
Okay, I haven't read up on the specifics of the tech, so I'm pulling most of this out of my butt:
I've never heard of a CD encoded at anything other than 16-bit, 44.1Khz. I think thew original post about increasing the length of a CD by using 13-bit encoding was a JOKE. Yes, you can save memory when sampling to a hard drive, but an audio CD must be at 16/44.1
The whole debate over "resolution" vs "sampling rate" is kind of silly. Both contribute to overall sound quality in equal measure. Imagine if you graph out your sound wave on paper, with time in the x direction (as is usually done) -- sampling rate is your x resolution, and the number of bits (often called resolution) is your y resolution. Increasing the bits allows for smoother curves since you have a creater number of values for the aplitude of the wave, and increasing the rate allows for higer pitched sounds to be heard, since pitch is directly related to frequency, and you need at least 2 samples per wave period to be able to hear the sound. So, at 44.1 Khz, the highest frequency encoded is in the 22Khz range, and so on.
Also, a 4x burner will not decrease the sound quality of an audio CD produced. Remember, CD burners were made originally for burning computer data, which, unlike audio data, needs to have 100% accuracy. You can overlook a small glitch in audio data and not even notice the difference, but an error in your hard drive backup and things no longer work. Now, early 4x burners mayu be more prone to errors, and thus result in more bad copies that have to be thrown away, but the good ones will sound exactly the same as the original. It's a digital copy, after all.
__ /\ __ __\/__\/__ ~Chris \_||_/ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ /__||__\ // \ | \\ "Let nothing bleed into nothing, and did nothing at all" \| Jim Matheos, Fates Warning, "A Pleasant Shade of Gray"
------------------------------
End of YTSEJAM Digest 2869 **************************
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Thu Apr 01 2004 - 17:59:46 EST