YTSEJAM Digest 2874
Today's Topics:
1) whee meters
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2873
by "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
3) Re: CDNOW
by "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
4) Petrucchi Clinic in Florida!
by Daus Studenberg <daus@metrolink.net>
5) Sad News for Rush Fans (NDTC)
by John Dea <jrdea@novia.net>
6) DT and FW Attendance
by Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
7) Re: DT songs with strange time signature?
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
8) Satch
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
9) A moment of silence
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
10) Re: Petrucchi Clinic in Florida!
by eckie@asu.edu
11) Mike Keneally
by The Silent Screamer <tritt@eden.rutgers.edu>
12) Re: whee meters
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
13) Angra And Empire
by "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer@worldnet.att.net>
14) Data is more than audio on a CD
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
15) Frequencies, odd meters
by "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
16) 1 question
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@KR.FH-Niederrhein.DE>
17) ]:0
by Pedro Filipe <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt>
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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:09:30 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: whee meters
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970815190923.007164f0@cats.ucsc.edu>
>> 1-In a piece, how can I distinguish between:
>> -6/8 (Compound Meter)
>> -6/8 (Simple Meter : 4/8 + 2/8)
>
>As as a general rule, any measure with six eighth note beats is in 6/8 and
>any measure with six quarter note beats is 6/4.
Hate to be picky, but in actual Western Music Theory, 6/8 is not a measure
with 6 eighth note beats. It's a measure with two dotted quarter note
beats, each of which is subdivided into three eighth notes. You cannot
look at a compound meter sign and say "hm. 9/8. That means 9 beats of
eighth notes" the way you can with simple meters. Anything where the top
number is divisible by three (except three itself) is a compound meter.
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// \ | \\ "Let nothing bleed into nothing, and did nothing at all"
\| Jim Matheos, Fates Warning, "A Pleasant Shade of Gray"
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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:10:48 +0000
From: "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2873
Message-ID: <199708160310.WAA30413@soli.inav.net>
> I was just wondering....what should music be like in
> the billions of highly developed alien societies out there?
we don't have music.
- Andrew Miller - keyboardist/vocalist - subtlerage -
- subtlerage@subtlerage.com - http://www.subtlerage.com -
- "First Impressions" now available on cassette -
- "sr2" available November '97 on CD -
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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:12:32 +0000
From: "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: CDNOW
Message-ID: <199708160312.WAA30518@soli.inav.net>
> Has anyone dealt with CDNOW? I'm considering ordering something from them,
> but would first like to know if they are reliable or not. Thanks.
>
they're very good. i've ordered from them at least a dozen times in the last
year. quick service, very reliable.
and better prices than sam goody (even with s/h)....
- Andrew Miller - keyboardist/vocalist - subtlerage -
- subtlerage@subtlerage.com - http://www.subtlerage.com -
- "First Impressions" now available on cassette -
- "sr2" available November '97 on CD -
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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:45:10 -0400
From: Daus Studenberg <daus@metrolink.net>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Petrucchi Clinic in Florida!
Message-ID: <01BCA9D6.64DC83C0@mlb2018.metrolink.net>
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This is another reminder to those in Florida that there will be a John =
Petrucchi Guitar clinic in Florida on Monday, August 18. A lot of =
people have been wondering with store location he would be attending at =
and it is confirmed that he will be playing at the ORLANDO Thoroughbred =
Music Store. I believe the clinic will start at 6:30 PM, correct me if =
I am wrong. My friends and I are going to be there at least an hour and =
a half before the clinic (don't ask me why, I guess we think this thing =
might be sold out or something like that!?!?). I will be have a black =
YtseJam T-shirt on and my friend will have his Petrucchi guitar. I =
spoke to a few people who are attending and if there is anyone else =
attending let me know.
C-ya at the Clinic!
Daus Studenberg
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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 97 22:51:03 -0500
From: John Dea <jrdea@novia.net>
To: "~YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Sad News for Rush Fans (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199708160350.WAA22435@oasis.novia.net>
Just read this on the NMS and thought I'd pass it on here. I can't
imagine what they must be going through now. )-8
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>From: rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu (The RUSH Fans Digest Manager)
>Date: Fri Aug 15 09:34:29 PDT 1997
>Subject: Administrivia
>
>As many of you know by now, Neil's only daughter Selena Taylor was killed in
>a car accident this past weekend. From Donna Halper: "She had just been
>accepted to university and had plans to enter law school; she also loved
>music."
>
>We've set up a "thoughts" page on the NMS web site for you to offer your
>sympathy to Neil and his family if you wish. If you'd like to put something
>there but don't have web access, mail me direct "rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu"
>and put "WALL Submission" in your subject. We will be printing out these
>thoughts in a few weeks and sending them all to Anthem.
>
>Also from Donna: "Anthem/SRO and the family are setting up an endowment for
>the arts in his daughter's memory. The foundation is called the Selena
>Taylor
>Foundation, and donations may be sent to it c/o Anthem."
>
>I believe it would be better if we could send one large donation on behalf
>of the NMS. If John Coleman (below) or someone else would like to start this
>I will put up the information in the next digest. I'll also be putting
>up the same information on the web site, to make it a joint NMS/web page
>donation. (we'll try to mail the donation & thoughts together)
>
>Stewart & everyone at "The Spirit Of Rush" will also be collecting during
>their Rush Convention in England in a few weeks.
>
> - rush-mgr
>
>----------------------------------------------------------
Suddenly you were gone
]From all the lives you left your mark upon
--Rush, "Afterimage"
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Systems Analyst, SWPS Weapon : jdea@creighton.edu
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 05:11:41 +0000
From: Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT and FW Attendance
Message-ID: <19970816051137.AAB5487@LOCALNAME>
>My gut is telling me that DT is gonna have as difficult a time filling
>clubs up as FW has had, unless they promote more, book better venues,
>get more publicity out. Certainly, a great number of people will come
>out just to watch JP shred, but the FW tour should serve as a warning to
>DT as well concerning the road this year.
I disagree. Let's look at a few reasons:
1- Previous tour attendance- DT has headlined shows in ~1000+ person clubs.
I don't know about FW in the past, but they are playing to 150 people now.
2- Airplay- DT has gotten some exposure on the radio and MTV in the past.
How many people have seen DT on MTV and how many have seen FW on MTV?
3- Accessibility- JP and MP regularly put on clinics. JP, MP and JM all have
instructional videos. JP, MP, JM and DS are frequently mentioned in
magazines like Guitar World and Modern Drummer.
4- Label Support- E/W may not treat DT good, but they can promote a band
much better than MetalBlade can.
Isaac
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 00:08:24 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DT songs with strange time signature?
Message-ID: <19970816044416.AAC22506@sni.pananet.com>
> > "weird" time signatures (if you could indicate a 4/4 song for my own
> > experiences hearing, I'll love).
> >
Another Day is all in 4/4.
> > Thank you very much for any information, Roger...
>
> take him Images And Words..play for him Metropolis, specially the middle
> part, learning to live, and TTT, i thnk that should bee nough .. any
> other suggestions guys?
>
Add Erotomania to that...and Surrounded too. What I love about Surrounded
is that it's in odd-time, but it sounds 'natural'
I wish I had a cool last name like 'Satriani'. Oh wait, Schnack is cool.
nevermind:)
Ernie
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 00:47:32 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Satch
Message-ID: <19970816045511.AAA22642@sni.pananet.com>
YES! Satch is in the studio with Stu and Jeff. WOO-HOO! The next Satriani
CD WILL kick ass.
just wanted to share that with you:)
Ernie
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 01:18:51 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A moment of silence
Message-ID: <33F5464B.6197@auburn.net>
I read some terrible news moments ago. Selena Taylor, the daughter of
Neil Peart, was killed in a car crash today. I don't know what else to
say, really, I just thought some of you might not know about this yet.
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:35:36 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Petrucchi Clinic in Florida!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970815233331.13218A-100000@general3.asu.edu>
> This is another reminder to those in Florida that there will be a John =
> Petrucchi Guitar clinic in Florida on Monday, August 18. A lot of =
Who the hell is John =Petrucchi? Can he play as godly as Petrucci?
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That's quite alright buddy, the first couple of times were enough for
me. I'm full now.
~Eckie
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 97 3:44:08 EDT
From: The Silent Screamer <tritt@eden.rutgers.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike Keneally
Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.5.871717448.tritt@er3.rutgers.edu>
Somebody posted a message stating how incredible Keneally is on both guitar
and piano/keyboards. I've got this to say: whoever saw the second round of
G3 and knew of Keneally previously probably had to pick their jaw up off the
floor after he and Vai played Pusa Road from Fire Garden Suite. Pusa Road is
specifically the movement with the sequenced piano and acoustic guitar. If
anybody was the highlight of the show, in a technical sense, it had to be
Mike Keneally. By the way, if anybody's interested he's got a HUGE webpage
on Moosenet. I'm not sure what the URL is but I think it's
www.moosenet.com/~keneally ,either way you can look it up in a search engine
if my URL is wrong.
To the Satriani fans out there, here's a bit of current news. Joe finished
recording his new album which will be titled "Crystal Planet". It features
Joe, Stu, and longtime friend Jeff Campitelli. The album is said to be a
cross between Surfing and Flying In A Blue Dream but more electronic
sounding. All songs are supposedly on the up side (not as mellow and bluesy
as his current CD JS). Sorry about the lack of DT content.
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Dori Tritt "Like a scream but sort of silent"
tritt@eden.rutgers.edu - John Petrucci
screamer@dreamt.org
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 00:56:42 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: whee meters
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970816005640.0082a210@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 07:26 PM 8/15/97 -0700, Chris Oates wrote:
>Anything where the top
>number is divisible by three (except three itself) is a compound meter.
>
/me scratches head.
I thought 3/4 and 6/8 were basically the same thing, so how can it be a
compound meter one way and not a compound meter the other way? Somethin's
fishy :)
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 01:56:46 +0000
From: "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer@worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Angra And Empire
Message-ID: <19970816085646.AAA28220@[207.147.169.2]>
Query:
Someone posted the E-Mail address for Empire Music
and a List of all of their Angra stuff.
Jus wunderin if somebody could get me that address
again or send me the jam itself ?
Gotta get some of that shtuff right away!
Damnation game should be here tomorrow..
Anyone interested IMHO of this disc??
I've been listenin' to the 1st Symphony X for bout
2 weeks and it ain't Divine Wings but it has it's moments.....
They've cum a loong way in 3 years - Check them out if
you haven't allready.
P.s. Eckie - Wherabouts do you live in Arizona - I'm from Mesa...
I think Mike Bahr would agree with this
Ytsejammer
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 02:31:20 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Data is more than audio on a CD
Message-ID: <199708160931.CAA24593@goodnet.com>
For some reason, 74 minutes of audio in the form of WAV files will
NOT fit on a CD. It will fit if written as an audio CD, but if written as
data, it's nearly 850 megs of stuff. I don't know why there's a
difference, but there is. I never could back up the data files of my CDs
to CDs themslves... but the 1gb Jaz drive works.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 15:41:33 +0200
From: "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Frequencies, odd meters
Message-ID: <9708161343.AA11438@nomina.lu.se>
Lars Hellsten wrote:
>BTW, I know you're wrong because if there were any truth to what you
>said,all CD's would be recorded at 8 KHz or lower, because very few
>musical instruments have a higher range than that - the 4th octave
>above middle-C is something like 4000 KHz...
I think you've missed something important here. The 4000 Hz (not KHz) tone
is just the strongest frequency, all instruments have many overtones and
one of them dominates the sound and decides the pitch of the tone, the
other tones create the specific tone of the instrument. So if you hear a
4th octave c at 4000 Hz, the tone probably contains much higher frequencies
that are essential for the instruments sound, it's what decides if it
sounds like a piano or an electric guitar.
I think it was Joe Satriani who said he preferred analog recording because
some of the high frequencies that the ear can't hear influence the
frequencies that you can hear.
Correct me if I'm wrong
Roger wrote:
>So, I'd like to ask you if you could indicate me which songs have
>"weird" time signatures (if you could indicate a 4/4 song for my own
>experiences hearing, I'll love).
Most songs except PMU, Another Day and TSM (Although PMU contains two 7/8
measures)
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 18:55:01 -0700
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@KR.FH-Niederrhein.DE>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 1 question
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Hi
I've only one question :
Is Fates Warning's A Pleasent Shade Of Gray part II maxi CD also released in
Europe ? -------------------- BTW, my top 10 albums of the week :
1)Royal Hunt - Paradox 2)Steve Vai - Fire Garden 3)Dream Theater - The Fix For 96 4)Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene 7-13 5)Angra - Holy Land 6)Dream Theater - A Change Of Seasons 7)Fates Warning - A Pleasent Shade Of Gray 8)Dream Theater - When Dream And Day Unite 9)John Norum - Another Destination 10)Pink Floyd - Pulse
ARASH
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 18:10:35 +0200 From: Pedro Filipe <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ]:0 Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970816161035.0067e93c@mail.telepac.pt>
To all the experts out there:
I have an Yamaha QY22 portable sequencer and I want to transfer some DT songs from my computer to the sequencer, which is general MIDI compatible. Some songs have 8 or more intruments but my sequencer has only 4 tracks. Is there a way to fit 8 or more instruments in only 4 tracks? Can I do like in my computer-have 2 instruments in one single track, as long as I assign them to different channels?
Those who can help me with this will be saved for last when I TAKE OVER THE WORLD!...world...orld...ld...d...d. Hey, cool echo!
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