YTSEJAM Digest 2909
Today's Topics:
1) re: the simpsons theme in lydian
by Thrak75@aol.com
2) CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!!!!!
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
3) Web space for radio station addresses!
by Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
4) lydian lesson, DTinBrazil, iq
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
5) Re: CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!!!!!
by eckie@asu.edu
6) heya!
by yzzy <yzzy@theonramp.net>
7) Miscellaneous Stuff
by Renob125@aol.com
8) Re: lydian lesson, DTinBrazil, iq
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
9) perfection
by "subtlerage" <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
10) Re: CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!!!!!
by "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
11) Superior Home Page.
by BRYNMAWR@webtv.net (D. J. FARRELL)
12) Re: CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!!!!!
by eckie@asu.edu
13) FII and reviews of stuff
by "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer2@worldnet.att.net>
14) DT on the radio!!
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
15)
by Mari <Madi@tsrcom.com>
16) Re: DT on the radio!!
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
17) Eddie doesn't know the power of the WEBB.
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
18) One more I just sent to Eddie.
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:13:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Thrak75@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: the simpsons theme in lydian
Message-ID: <970827201156_790811718@emout07.mail.aol.com>
lydian it is. very gorgeous mode. danny elfman is the shit when it comes to
writing. i believe i was told that he LOVES that mode.
and pardon me sounding like a lawyer (i mean, just came home from my second
day of law school), but one can almost aruge that elfman ripped parts of that
theme from the theme to "the jetsons".
lydian is good because one can do all sorts of fun stuff with that. from
lydian, you set yourself ever so nicely to play whole-tone stuff. and i like
whole-tone. it makes me feel wholesome after i come home from church and i
molested the altar girls. steve vai likes lydian, too. i don't think he likes
to molest altar girls, but one song i can think of that employs this
lydian-whole tone relationship is "the riddle", off of passion and warfare.
even led zeppelin seems to have a knowledge of lydia's mode. there's this one
tune, off of this album called "houses of the holy" (pretty good, too- this
other song, "the ocean" even has bits of 7/8 in it) called "dancing days".
and the opening riff that that page guy plays (not page hamilton of helmet,
mind you) says "beat me in the ass with that lydian pipe!!"
finally, another cunning usage of the lydian mode is to utterly confuse
people, and dupe them into thinking they're listening to a tune in a
MIXO-lydian mode. renaissance's "trip to the fair" off of one of the most
essential art rock albums ever "scheherzade" is the prime example. b mix or a
lydian? i always go with choice a, but i have gotten into passionate debates
over others who argue choice b.
so there- lydian mode. use it. love it. sodomize it occasionally. treat it
well.
if syrinx (what up, bitchass!) can give you history, i can give you some
music theory.
wooo-hah! gotcha all in check (bass line to this song also displays a lydian
character- go busta rhymes!!!).
ytsegoon
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david y. kobayashi
thrak75@aol.com
"i'm afraid of americans, i'm afraid of the world. i'm afraid i can't help
it. i'm afraid i can't." d. bowie
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:06:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970827220537.19386A-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:27:09 -0700
]From: Eddie Webb <eddie@98kupd.com>
To: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
Subject: Re: Dream Theater
Whats with all this dream theatre stuff? If the record label doesn't
support them why should we? Radio is now a business like it or not, and
it's all about image and ratings. We get NOTHING out of playing dream
theatre if they aren't going to be supported again, why should we?
At 10:42 PM 8/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I don't understand why you won't back Dream Theater?? Is it because you
>are afraid?? Whats your story!!!
>
>
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:12:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Web space for radio station addresses!
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970827211127.327975A-100000@DT3.DT.UH.EDU>
John McCabe wrote:
>Anyone who lives in America that complains about their local radio
>selection should really read that post. But, I have a question. How are
>we going to pass around these email addresses? I don't think the jam
>will support the amount of every jammer sending in their local radio
>station(s) email address. So, anyone willing to give up web space, or
>better yet, setup a mini mailing list for awhile?
I am volunteering to put space on my Web page for a list of radio
stations that you all think might play DT. If you have a radio station
in your area that you think would play DT, send me the station's call
sign, frequency, city, state, and e-mail address, and I'll gather them
and put them on my Web page (in table format). But after I compile the
list and put it up, YOU are the ones that have to send e-mail to ALL of
them. And, as always, keep it intellegent. We don't want the stations
to BOYCOTT DT because of our actions. ;)
-Nicole/Kirby
Nicole Rene Stachowicz McWatters | The sleep is still in my eyes
Undergrad Professional Writing Major | The dream is still in my head
University of Houston-Downtown | I heave a sigh and ... smile
stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu | And lie a while in bed.
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039 |
Kirby on irc.dreamt.org | "Soliloquy" _2112_ by Rush
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:41:25 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: lydian lesson, DTinBrazil, iq
Message-ID: <19970828013929.AAA23479@sni.pananet.com>
> molested the altar girls. steve vai likes lydian, too. i don't think he
likes
> to molest altar girls,
think again. Ever heard Zappa's 'Stevie's Spanking'? :)
so DT are playing in Brazil. hmmmm, I don't think a Panama-Brazil flight
would cost so much:)
BTW. i just took an iq test at www.iqtest.com, and i got a score of 159.
So it's either a crock o shit, or I'm a genious. I'm going for the genious
part:)
either way, it's great for the ol' ego,
Ernie
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:21:34 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970827202008.12552A-100000@general1.asu.edu>
I emailed KUPD about 3 days ago, and I STILL haven't gotten a response.
But that royally pisses me off.
Are we the only people here who believe "The world is what we make of it?"
~Eckie throws his radio out his window, and dynamite into thiers
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 16:35:39 -0500
From: yzzy <yzzy@theonramp.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: heya!
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970827163539.007b3c30@mail.theonramp.net>
just sent email to eddie@98kupd.com and basically told him that he's chosen
the wrong career path if he doesn't want to play what he's listeners are
requesting. *yzzy slaps eddie* i hope everyone sends email to eddie.
and many thanx to Swifty for posting DT's Yes Medley on his page. it
played without a hitch (and the dl went pretty quick too ;-) if you don't
have this mp3, you might wanna visit
http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/dtstuff.html
the mp3 of Angra's Never Understand (from Mosh's ftp site) is awesome.
i've been wondering for over 2 years what Angra sounded like (thanx Mosh :)
and now i know what i've been missin'. can someone let me know which cd
this song is on? i've found a few cd sites that lists the tracks from
their available cd's, but, i haven't found Never Understand listed on any
of `em.
cul8r *wave*
yzzy //Iz*zee//E*zee//E*ziz*ee//Y*z*z*y//Izzzzz
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 23:32:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Renob125@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Miscellaneous Stuff
Message-ID: <970827232922_-166831268@emout05.mail.aol.com>
Hey jammers
>>Sorry to be a pain, but I was wondering how to unsubscribe from ytsejam
>>(not that this isn't a cool group or anything!).
Then what the hell is your problem???
>>5 ways to rule:::::::>>>>>>>>
You forgot one:
6: Sitting on your ass popping beer and waiting for the new album while
everybody else in the world has it, speaking of which....
>>The release date for the new DT CD in Netherlands is September 19th.
>>The album in Italy will be released the 17 September........
Well, fook you too...
I wonder if everybody _but_ the US is getting bonus tracks?
>>any thoughts on Faith No More's new album? i just picked it up last night
and
>>i *REALLY* dig it. now, does anyone have any recommendations on the next
>>FNM album i should check out?
I'd be interested in hearing thoughts on FNM's new album too. As far as
recomendations, I've only got Introduce Yourself, The Real Thing, Angel Dust,
and I've heard KFADFFAL. If you like TRT, go for Introduce Yourself. It's
got Chuck Mosely on vocals, who sounds naturally stoned, which is hard to get
used to, but the lyrics are funny and the songs are catchy. IMHO. Angel
Dust is
a more mature album than The Real Thing while not as dark. You've probably
heard
Midlife Crisis, which was why I bought the album. BTW, anybody have any
ideas
on which FNM I should pick up next?
>>Eckie Eckie Eckie pTang swip zoom BOINGO
My thoughts exactly. NU! NU! NO, you're saying it wrong!
Anyway, I know some of us like Prince, but whatever you do, do NOT buy
Emancipation. It's a waste of money and time. IT SUCKS! If you want to
know why I'll tell you privately, but I loved the funky sign album
(especially
Melt With U), and the Gold Experience was different but likable. Just stay
away from this stinker. I warned you. Fortunately I got it used and on a
trade in.
Has anybody heard that butchery of the Police song they've been playing on
the radio lately? What do you think of it? Is it as bad as I think it is?
I'm not talking about the lyrics either, because I'm not gonna start a flame
war about dead rappers. Their intent is not the issue, but HOW they did it
is.
DTC - Can't wait for the new album.
NDTDT - Wouldn't it be funny if Leanne Rimes (sp?), as a cover song, sang
George Michael's "I Want Your Sex"? If she did it during Saturday
Night Live, people might actually watch it again!
Pauly via AOL
-You know, after hearing the Spice Girls on the radio day after day after
day,
they really aren't THAT bad...
-You said it and you know it so just admit it.
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:33:36 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: lydian lesson, DTinBrazil, iq
Message-ID: <19970828023137.AAA24980@sni.pananet.com>
> BTW. i just took an iq test at www.iqtest.com, and i got a score of 159.
> So it's either a crock o shit, or I'm a genious. I'm going for the
genious
> part:)
>
> either way, it's great for the ol' ego,
> Ernie
>
hehe, i knew something like that would happen. It's genius, not genious:)
At least i corrected myself in time....
Ernie
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:43:45 +0000
From: "subtlerage" <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: perfection
Message-ID: <19970828034027.AAC19441@subtlerage.avalon.net>
on 27 Aug 97 at 17:15, you wrote:
> But, as I said in the subject: If this missig really exists, I don't think
> this makes MP a worst drummer. Even the best drummer (like MP) can make
> mistakes.
this is one of the most ridiculous threads i've seen. even the best can make
mistakes? are you idiots, er, uh, people forgetting that we're talking about
human beings here? nobody is perfect.
i realize the person that wrote the above quoted out section is simply
commenting on the thread, so this isn't directed at them, but to those of you
that are analyzing DT's music looking for mistakes- get a life. they're not
perfect. no one is. if you want to hear flawless drumming, buy a drum
machine.
some of you people have WAY too much time on your hands...
- Andrew Miller - keyboardist/vocalist - subtlerage -
- subtlerage@subtlerage.com - http://www.subtlerage.com -
- "First Impressions" now available on cassette -
- "sr2" available September '97 on CD -
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:07:10 -0600
From: "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!!!!!
Message-ID: <199708280413.VAA03221@odin.ax.com>
>We get NOTHING out of playing dream
>theatre if they aren't going to be supported again, why should we?
THIS is what pisses me off. The only thing they get are advertisemenst
between songs. That's what pays for radio. Advertisers rarely care about
songs being played just so long as they get their advertisement aired.
Remember what I said about 2 weeks ago about bribes? I think this is what
he was talking about. "We didn't get a free box of condoms, so why should
I support AIDS research?" Fuck, some people are dumb. heheh. I flamed
him in my own kewl way. Check this out...
"...I remeber when people used to treat Metallica like dirt back around the
Master of Puppets era. Suddenly Metallica starts selling albums after
making a video for One. Then they go multi-platinum after realeasing the
"black album." All of the sudden all of you DJ's start saying, "Duh, well,
I've been supporting them since Kill 'Em All. Duh..." Oh, well. Nothing
attracts flies like fecal substance..."
Anyway, I went a little off, but that guy's a Jolly Rancher if I ever saw
one.
~KorgX3 is strong enough for a man, but pH blalanced for a woman.
"Make Music, Not Garbage" - D' Addario String Co.
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 00:20:47 -0400
From: BRYNMAWR@webtv.net (D. J. FARRELL)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Superior Home Page.
Message-ID: <199708280420.VAA11355@mailtod-111.bryant.webtv.net>
Re; 'Jam #2908. In response to Col. Mustard & Paul. The Superior
home page is located at <A HREF>gaia.owl.de/~fine/superior.html.
Hope this clears things up.
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:30:17 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970827212927.8279A-100000@general4.asu.edu>
*cackle*
It's gonna be interestin' to tune into Into the Pit this week....
'n see if he has anything to say 'bout all these DT email bombs...
*cackle* *high-five Vince*
~Eckie gets even with you, even with you
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:35:58 +0000
From: "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer2@worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FII and reviews of stuff
Message-ID: <19970828033551.AAA20561@default>
For those of you who for whatever reason cannot get to
a CD store on Sept. 23 - CDNow has FII available for
preorder. You can get it that day if you pay extra for
next day delivery.
I just ordered Mayadome and Stratovarius Episode from
Music Blvd. I'll post my impressions after a few listens.
I gotta feelin that Mayadome is gonna rock nadz.
If you haven't already, go to their homepage and read
their fave drummers, guitarists, etc.
See anything interesting??
Then download some samples....
Hear anything interesting??
I have listened to the Clockwork E.P. several times now and I
am a little dissapointed. Kinda disjointed songwriting and what
with the ummm...weak drumming (seems like THIS is the guy with
the timing problems, not M.P.)
Interesting lyrics though. If you like Echolyn and you like heavy
guitars then Clockwork might work for you.
Also picked up Eldritch Seeds Of Rage from a fellow jammer.
My 3 year old picked up the CD and said "Daddy these mans are
bad guys". I replied "No their not honey, they play music".
My son then said "This man is Mad And Creepy".
(Don't know where he learned " creepy" from)
When I looked, He was pointing at the Vocalist.
You know, he does look mad and creepy and he kinda
doesn't sing a whole lot better.
Pretty good stuff though - heavy, nice keys and lotsa
atmosphere in places. Reminds me of a more progressive
Savatage for some reason.' Cept heavier.
Nuff Said
Ytsejammer
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 97 23:44:53 -0500
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT on the radio!!
Message-ID: <340502445d0b021@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
I just heard Burning My Soul on the radio! (X105 in Minneapolis MN). It's a
really cool song, heavy loke a lot of the stuff on Awake.
-Brian
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 00:17:36 -0500
From: Mari <Madi@tsrcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970828002633.0d8f4906@tsrcom.com>
can some one send me quick instruction on how to get off this list?
My hatred for you is delicious
-Mari
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 00:19:57 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DT on the radio!!
Message-ID: <19970828041801.AAA27360@sni.pananet.com>
> I just heard Burning My Soul on the radio! (X105 in Minneapolis MN).
It's a
> really cool song, heavy loke a lot of the stuff on Awake.
>
> -Brian
>
ok, how many of you got the tingles when you read this?:)
Ernie
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:47:08 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Eddie doesn't know the power of the WEBB.
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970827224704.0082b100@postoffice.syspac.com>
"Let's kick the tires and light the fires!!"
/me hi-fives all his ytsejammin' buds.
~Vince
>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:45:31 -0600
>To: Eddie Webb <eddie@98kupd.com>
>From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
>Subject: CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!!!!!
>
>Vince now listens to 93. Fuck you 98 K-U-P-GREED.
>1100 Hardcore Dream Theater fans now know about your greed, and we're the
ones who got Elektra to release their last album. Check the liner notes
for "the online Ytsejammers". We also are the 2500 that petitioned
successfully to get DT into the studio to record this album. You've just
said the wrong things to the wrong group of people. Remember Z-rock?
>
>Check this shit out:
>
>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:27:09 -0700
>>]From: Eddie Webb <eddie@98kupd.com>
>>To: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
>>Subject: Re: Dream Theater
>>
>>Whats with all this dream theatre stuff? If the record label doesn't
>>support them why should we? Radio is now a business like it or not, and
>>it's all about image and ratings. We get NOTHING out of playing dream
>>theatre if they aren't going to be supported again, why should we?
>>
>>
>>
>>At 10:42 PM 8/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>>I don't understand why you won't back Dream Theater?? Is it because you
>>>are afraid?? Whats your story!!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 23:03:17 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: One more I just sent to Eddie.
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970827230313.0079a650@postoffice.syspac.com>
For those of you that care,
This one's a little calmer :)
~Vince
>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 23:02:08 -0600
>To: Eddie Webb <eddie@98kupd.com>
>From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
>Subject: Hey man, let's talk.
>
>Hey man,
> I was a little harsh with that last e-mail, and I apologize. I'm a bit
of a zealous type when I see a group of genuinely good people getting a raw
deal. You're gonna probably be getting a bunch of e-mails from lots of
people. Please read them all and consider each one. Every single one of
them is from a good person who means well. We just wanna see our favorite
band do what we know they can. I know you're not the one in power here,
but even if the single just gets on "Into the Pit", I'll be satisfied.
Remember what happened to Rush and Metallica. They music was incredible
but their following was cult for a long time. All of a sudden, that one
single, that one album, something, and they're superstars and everybody
wants to play them and have them on their show. The same will happen with
Dream Theater. A band with this much talent, sound, and appeal cannot be
oppressed for long...and if you guys don't play their new single, "Burning
My Soul", you're burning your own.
> Think about it this way. Do you remember what happened with Dream
Theater's "Pull Me Under" single a few years back? I still hear that one
on 98 from time to time.
>
>Sorry for being such a pissy son-of-a-bitch, but I'm stubborn.
>
>
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