YTSEJAM Digest 2919
Today's Topics:
1) getting into Dream Theater
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
2) Virus Warning !!!
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@KR.FH-Niederrhein.DE>
3) digest 2916 & 2917 !!!
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@KR.FH-Niederrhein.DE>
4) Fates Warning tour this summer.
by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
5) re: KM keyboards
by 015691b@dragon.acadiau.ca (Rick Barkhouse)
6) ranking of the Fates CDs I have
by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
7) Re: Virus Warning !!!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
8) Getting into DT, Marillion samples
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
9) Re: Yes...
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
10) Unclassified: DT Fanzine
by Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
11) Re: Virus Warning !!!
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
12) FII
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
13) DT fan spawned by radio...
by Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu>
14) sherinian birthday, fates
by "Stephanie Chi" <stephchi@hotmail.com>
15) Postcard missing something??
by Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu>
16) Subconscious cd...I want a copy...I pay
by David Di Tivoli <dream@pronet.it>
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:42:25 +0200
From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: getting into Dream Theater
Message-ID: <199708311345.QAA10498@lahmaat.guvatrak.ee>
Lars:
> too, so I decided to buy Promised Land. Well, it was totally different
> from the little I'd heard of QR previously, but I really liked it. Anyway,
> my friend said she didn't like PL that much, and added "it sounds too much
> like Dream Theater"... so I went out and bought I&W, having never heard DT
It's STRANGE! Dream Theater and "Promised Land" get connected once
again. The tape copy of Awake that I mentioned before happened to be
on the B side of a TDK tape. On the A side, there was Promised Land.
I only intended to listen to "Promised Land" (loved it), but I hit
the play/reverse button twice and ended up listening to Dream
Theater. I remember thinking, "Wow! This instrumental really kicks!
They've never done anything like this before!" Before I knew, the
instrumental had developed into Voices. I thought Geoff sounded
better than ever on it. So there. :-) Imagine my pleasant surprise: I
really loved Promised Land and adored the new band I had just
discovered for myself.
Raitz
"Some say I'm a horrible person. That is not true.
I have the heart of a boy... In a jar on my desk."
-- Stephen King
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:16:14 -0700
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@KR.FH-Niederrhein.DE>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Virus Warning !!!
Message-ID: <340A418E.5547@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
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]From: marcelbo@microsoft.com
Sent: maandag 25 augustus 1997 21:12
Subject: FW: Virus Warning
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FYI
Marcel Boshuizen
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2132 HB HOOFDDORP
+ (31) 23 56 89 161
WARNING!!!!!! If you receive an e-mail titled "JOIN THE CREW" DO NOT
open it!
It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! Send this letter out to as
many people you can.......this is a new virus and not many people
know about it!
This information was received this morning from IBM, please share it
with anyone that might access the Internet.
Also, If anyone receives mail entitled; PENPAL GREETINGS! please
delete it WITHOUT reading it!!
This is a warning for all Internet users - there is a dangerous virus
propagating across the Internet through an e-mail message entitled
"PENPAL GREETINGS!". DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL
GREETINGS"!! This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you
are interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is
too late.
The trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector of
your hard drive, destroying all of the data present.
It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will
AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is present in
YOUR mailbox!
This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to
DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your in box, and who's
mail is in their in box and so on. If this virus keeps getting passed, it
has the potential to do a great deal of DAMAGE to computer networks
worldwide!!!!
Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon as you
see it!
And pass this message along to all of your friends, relatives and the
other readers of the newsgroups and mailing lists which you are on so that
they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!! Please pass this
along to everyone you know so this can be stopped.
PASS THIS ON TO YOUR FRIENDS!!! WARNING !!!
There is a new virus going arround in the last couple of days!!!
DO NOT open or even look at any mail that you get that says: "Returned or
Unable to Deliver" This virus will attach itself to your computer components
and render them useless. Immediately delete any mail items that says this.
AOL has said this is a very danderous virus, and there is NO remedy for it
at this time,Please Be Careful, And forward to all your on-line friends A.S.A.P.
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 21:16:51 -0700
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@KR.FH-Niederrhein.DE>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: digest 2916 & 2917 !!!
Message-ID: <340A41B3.5B9D@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
Can somebody send me digest 2916 & 2917 please ?
I haven't revice this messages.
Thank you very much.
Arash
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 15:01:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fates Warning tour this summer.
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970831145603.13777A-100000@rossby>
Jammers:
I went to the Forth Worth concert AUG 2. The only Fates I was familiar
with at that time was Perfect Symmetry, Inside Out, and APSoG.
I recently obtained No Exit and Parallels (in fact yesterday evening).
]From what I recognize, they played "life in still water" and "the
eleventh hour" off of Parallels. I don't recognize anything off of No
Exit.
So, I'm wondering if there was anything else that people noticed that
Fates played in their tours (perhaps someone went to the Forth Worth
concert?).
]From what I can recall, they played:
1) APSoG
2) Life in Still Water
3) The Eleventh Hour
4) Face the Fear
5) Monument
Any others I'm forgetting? I remember reading that some jammers said
that Fates didn't play anything prior to Parallels.
Later,
Jon
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 17:07:17 -0300 (ADT)
From: 015691b@dragon.acadiau.ca (Rick Barkhouse)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: KM keyboards
Message-ID: <199708312007.RAA10886@dragon.acadiau.ca>
Anders wrote:
>Lately there's been some questions about keyboards which made me think
>of this; What keyboards does KM use on wdadu, i&w and awake???
>
>Anybody know...?
I'm not sure about WDADU (and I would like to find out...), but I'm pretty
sure he used a Roland JD-800 and a Korg DW-8000 on I&W and probably also
on Awake.
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 15:15:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ranking of the Fates CDs I have
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970831150248.14113A@rossby>
OK. Now that I have 5 Fates CDs, I can more fairly rank the ones
according to what I like best.
1) A Pleasant Shade of Gray (masterpiece and ranks in my best CDs of
all-time!)
2) Inside Out. (This may be a tie between IO and Parallels)
3) Parallels.
4) Perfect Symmetry. (too much screaming, but progs awesome!)
5) No Exit. (WAY too much screaming, but rocks good!)
While I'm on this topic, I might as well do the same for Dream Theater
and Queensryche: (that way I can have some DT content)
DT:
--1) Images and Words (masterpiece) 2) Awake 3) A Change of Seasons. 4) Live at the Marque 5) WDADU
Queensryche: -----------
1) Empire 2) Bridge single CD (with full band version of Someone Else) (awesome CD for only 4 songs!!) 3) Rage for Order (Gonna Get Close to you is about the only song I don't like on this CD). 4) Promised Land 5) Operation: Mindcrime (I've never been much of a fan of this CD, that is, until I saw them live in Dallas a couple weeks ago!) 6) Hear in the Now Frontier (not that far behind, though. I'm liking it more and more lately)
I had the Warning, but had to return it. Too much "80s screaming". Never heard their first CD.
-Jon
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 17:38:27 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Virus Warning !!! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970831172751.28581A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
Hey, people.
It is not possible for a virus to work on any platform that exists today. There are two or three factors that can guarantee that you can't have such a program:
1 - There are much more architectures out there than just our PCs. Sparcs, Alphas and Macs are some exemples. All these architectures have their own machine language that is different from each other; 2 - Even if we were running just one platform (say, PCs), the "virus" would have to be executable under Unices (Linux, Free BSD, Minix, Xenix (UGH!)) and DOS as well as Windows and OS/2; 3 - If your mail program executes any code as soon as you read the mail (be it by decoding the e-mail or by any other means), "put it in a trash can" :-) and get a better software that does *ONLY* what *YOU* tell it to do.
And just a terminology point: a program that deletes your hard disk without you being informed is called a Trojan Horse and not a virus. A virus has to multiply itself to be called a virus (i.e., it has to follow the "cycle of life", reproducing itself and infecting some host program/file). On the other hand, Windows is a Trojan Horse. :-)
So, I hope this is informative and if you have further questions, feel free to ask.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 19:26:58 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Getting into DT, Marillion samples Message-ID: <01BCB660.FF85B680@ns.globalxs.nl>
> I remember first hearing of Dream Theater.
Me too, back in '89... A friend's brother bought a copy of WDADU when he was in Canada. That friend made me a tape of it, and the rest is history :-) WDADU became one of my all-time favourite albums... Until IAW was released :-) _____
JB asked :
> Subject: marillion stuff & IQ stuff > > I've heard alot about these guys since subscribing to the jam, but > have never heard them... Are there any samples (mp3/wav/etc) > 1) that are out there > 2) that you'd recommend me listening to get a good sampling of > their sound.
Music Boulevard has 17 real audios of Marillion songs (probably just bits and pieces). I haven't heard the samples myself, but you can find them through my homepage (in the "MARILLIONIZING" section). Itchy's Homepage --> http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/
:-) _____
> From: "Ruggiero Sardaro" <rootstod@euronet.nl> > Subject: SUBSCRIBE!! > I'D VERY MUCH LIKE TO BE PUT ON YOUR LIST!
No you don't. You just don't know it yet. ;-P
Better give "Voices" a try :
Address: voices-request@arastar.com Subject: asdf Message: subscribe voices <first-name> <last-name>
:-) _____
> From: Marroquin Arellano <vstcomp@guate.net> > Subject: asdf > ususcribe ytsejam vstcomp@guate.net
Wrong address and a fucking spelling error.
Oh well,
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 17:46:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Jason Nixon <dumont@net-link.net> Subject: Re: Yes... Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.970831174623.13128C-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Owner of a lonely heart? I hope you were kidding.
Reach Damon Fibraio at damon@shell.monmouth.com keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality Deviant of Reality All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars. Neil Peart of Rush
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Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 08:17:01 +1000 From: Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Unclassified: DT Fanzine Message-ID: <4A256504.007A009F.00@nschq-e-navy.navy.gov.au>
Yep got mine a couple of weeks ago, yet another excellent issue (well done Neil), if you need to contact Neil Elliott, who runs the fan club. images_and_words@compuserve.com
gRaham_
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 17:17:58 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Virus Warning !!! Message-ID: <19970831211806.AAC20013@sni.pananet.com>
> 3 - If your mail program executes any code as soon as you read the > mail (be it by decoding the e-mail or by any other means), "put it in a > trash can" :-) and get a better software that does *ONLY* what *YOU* tell > it to do. >
ok PC-doofus here with a question: Does the preview screen in my email program equivalent to "decoding the email or any other means" ?
jus' checking, Ernie
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 17:17:39 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FII Message-ID: <19970831211806.AAB20013@sni.pananet.com>
last night, thanks to very kind soul, i got to hear FII...here's my review...
like, *SPOILERS* and stuff....
New Millenium: kick ass, awesome, not much more to say
You Not Me: skipped it. we all know that one already:)
Peruvian Skies: one of my personal favorites. Starts out with a trippy, Floyd-ish vibe and ends with a crunchy stomp. Vinnie and Eckie will like this one:) I lost my connection and missed the ending. bummer:/
Hollow Years: I really can't say much about the ballads,, because i have to let them grow on me. They all seemed like they were good. This one has a Marillion-esque quality to it.
Burning My Soul: a heavy one. I was disappointed that they changed the intro they used at the fix shows. I liked how it started really soft and then crashed into the gargantuan riff, oh well. Cool song in any case.
Hell's Kitchen: I like how this fits with BMS. It's like a nice Coda. It starts out soft (with the old BMS intro :/) and grows slowly. I like the effect it gives.
Take Away My Pain: Read my comment on ballads above. Sounded kind of adult contemporary-ish.
Lines in the Sand: I love Derek's intro to this. Always have, always will. The song itself has a blues rock kinda vibe, but it's very progressive. In the middle it gets slow and builds up. The ending is very cool.
Just Let Me Breath: awesome. Cool solos by JP and DS here. Short yet proggish.
Anna Lee: Queen meets Elton John. I didn't pay much attention to this one, so i won't say anything else.
Trial of Tears: this could very well be the song that ends up being my fave. It starts very softly and sloooooowly builds up. A looooot of emotion. both John and Derek shred it up big time here.
Overall: This isn't a rock-your-nadz-from-beginning-to-end type CD. There are nadrockers, but there are the ballads to balance it out. There's a lot more emotion in this CD than any of there previous stuff.
Sound: Well, it's different. Again. I like that. It deosn't sound like I&W. It doesn't sound like Awake. It looks like DT changes faster than Rush:) There's a lot more groove to this. The music has 70's vibe at times. The melodies are very 80's sounding. Is it prog, you ask? Yes definitely. But there's no more 'prog' sections. It's more sprtead out across the album. Hard to explain. What i mean is that there are few sections were they delibiretely go hay-wire...instead they'll do small pieces of it throughout the song. All in all, i'll say that this CD brings the 70's 80's and 90's into one nice package.
Oh and there's no grunge in this record. really. none. nada. zippo. Just in case you were worried.
...and bassists will be very, very happy. oh yes.
I saw the postcard. If that's the cover, at first i was disappointed, but now i must say. The cover goes with the music.
just letting you breathe, Ernie
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 18:25:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT fan spawned by radio... Message-ID: <199708312225.SAA23120@acmex.gatech.edu>
> yes-radio sux-and I gave it up ages ago! Glad to see there's others like > me out there!
While I often curse the fact that a radio station that plays music I enjoy is about as rare as a monologue from Myung, at the same time I can't deny the fact that it was radio that first introduced me to Dream Theater. I know there are many out there who had the same experience, and speaking for myself, while I rarely have a moving musical experience while listeing to the radio, there are moments when that one gem sneaks through, and so I leave myself open to the possibility. Totally shutting yourself off from anything is only asking for you to miss something, so while I don't think the state of radio is anything to cheer about, I still listen now and then because, hey, you never know....(and thank you for playing NY Lotto...;)
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:06:13 PDT From: "Stephanie Chi" <stephchi@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: sherinian birthday, fates Message-ID: <19970831230613.19220.qmail@hotmail.com>
read on a KISS website that Eric Singer threw Sherinian a pool and barbecue party for Derek's birthday. Apparently Derek is living in Eric Singer's house. Those KISS websites report on everything. I guess they still keep in touch from Sherinians days with KISS.
Fates Warning in Hollywood kicked ass. Those guys can really play. No Kevin Moore sighting though. I was hoping he would be around. Now hopefully that tour video will come out.
lauters Now playing: Crimson Glory- Crimson Glory Fates Warning- Parallels
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 19:26:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Postcard missing something?? Message-ID: <199708312326.TAA14472@acmey.gatech.edu>
Just a comment: If this postcard is indeed the new album cover, they'll be departing from a little tradition...the cover of every previous full length album has featured the Majesty symbol somewhere on it. Personally, I hope this isn't the cover though, but in reality, it doesn't really matter. I don't love DT for their covers, even though I always love the covers....ah, well.
Eric
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 01:33:34 +0200 From: David Di Tivoli <dream@pronet.it> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Subconscious cd...I want a copy...I pay Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970901013334.0086b420@pronet.it>
I'm looking for a cdr copy of that cd...I'll pay for it..........let me know.
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