YTSEJAM Digest 2915
Today's Topics:
1) LOW RIDER
by Jason Nixon <dumont@net-link.net>
2) Re: Another DJ response!!!
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
3) Jerry, are you out there?
by "Paul T. Fini" <fini@eci1.ucsb.edu>
4) Any news on dream theater tour?
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
5) RE: Delicious? (Boston area-jammers and new DT)
by edwilk@juno.com (Ed Wilk III)
6) Any luck with WAAF?
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
7) Well, perfection is
by beheader@sili.com.br (Pedro Prado)
8) Double sided CDs
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
9) Conception "Last Temptation"
by <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
10) Finneus Gauge
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
11) For Sale
by "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer2@worldnet.att.net>
12) FII
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
13) Live to skank, skank to live
by "W. Brian Henderson" <hender@wam.umd.edu>
14) re: the simpsons theme in lydian
by Thrak75@aol.com
15) Huh?
by Lars Hellsten <lars@shaw.wave.ca>
16) Re: Huh?
by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
17) southern wisconsin jammers
by Mathew and Melissa <palze@tcccom.net>
18) Re: voice problems when sick
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
19) Re: Queensryche CD Rom
by Mike Jones <mgjones@mcs.net>
20) ELP, synths, IQs
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:47:48 -0400
From: Jason Nixon <dumont@net-link.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LOW RIDER
Message-ID: <3406FD34.2C97@net-link.net>
> and a kick ASS instrumental version of Low
> Rider that has some ripping guitar playing on it (who was this?
> Anybody know? They didn't announce it, but it reminded me a lot of
> Steve Vai).
The artist is Gary Hoey and the song is off the Endless Summer II
soundtrack which he pretty much did the whole album with some Dick Dale
I think.
Jason
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:52:30 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Another DJ response!!!
Message-ID: <34070C5E.8B63DD32@caribe.net>
Jim Beavens wrote:
> ======== Fwd by: Al Scott ========
>
> Wow! That took me about a year to read. Yeah, I dug those Eugene
> days at
> KLCX. For us to play the new DREAM THEATER it would have to be a hit
> first.
> We don't break a lot of records here at KUFO. If you listen, all you
> hear
> is really familiar rock tunes. That's our deal...just the hits. It's
> not
> rocket science, but we do have a responsibility to our listeners to
> stay on
> the air with our format. If we played a lot of songs that just one or
> two
> people were into...nobody would listen. That's not to say that Dream
> Theater won't be a hit...but that's what it'll have to be before we
> play it.
> Thanks for listening....you rule! Al
i take it this way..at least the guy was decent ..and toldd him straight
out...by he still was pretty friendly about it...
> -----------------
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:08:04 PDT
From: "Paul T. Fini" <fini@eci1.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jerry, are you out there?
Message-ID: <199708291708.KAA26346@gladiola.ucsb.edu>
Hey - this is a message to Andreas Schaefer... are you still alive Jerry?
I sent a message to your old e-mail address (jerry@muc.de) a while back
and didn't get a reply. Of course, it would help matters if I hadn't
lost your new address, but I'm hoping you'll read this.
Sorry to the rest of the 'jammers for the waste of bandwidth.
Paul
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voice (805)893-8869, fax (805)893-8971 MOCVD group
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 13:21:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Any news on dream theater tour?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970829131726.1070D-100000@thunder>
Does anyone know when/where Dream Theater is going to tour?
I've been a fan for about four years now, and I've never seen them play!
(Central Pennsylvania seems neglected. I feel bad that I missed a
performance last December.. the night after seeing RUSH in the
Meadowlands).
I REALLY REALLY want to see these guys!
BTW: APSoG RULES!!! Where can I see Fates Warning?
Cheers and Stuff
-Ponte
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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 23:12:19 -0400
From: edwilk@juno.com (Ed Wilk III)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Delicious? (Boston area-jammers and new DT)
Message-ID: <19970829.134146.8910.0.EdWilk@juno.com>
>I definitely did. Am I the only Boston-area jammer that hasn't heard
>anything, or are AAF and their second-rate ilk not playing anything from
>DT?
I've heard no new DT, but I loathe AAF anyway. I listen to WGIR,
Rock 101.1. Kickass station. Rush blocks every day, and Queensryche
blocks almost every day. Anyway, they've been deluged with TONS of
requests for You Not Me, and when it comes out (2 weeks before FII),
they're going to have it in heavy rotation.
Ed-San
"People in prayer for me\Everyone there for me;
Sometimes I feel I should face this alone;
My shoul exposed;
It calms me to know that I won't." - John Petrucci
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 14:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Any luck with WAAF?
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.96.970829140833.85370C-100000@acs3.bu.edu>
Howdy people! I've basically been emailing WAAF's DJ's (all of 'em) like
every couple of days requesting BMS and I haven't gotten a single
response. Any other Boston area jammers have any luck? Anyone else wanna
try? ;) http://www.waaf.com -- just say you're from Cambridge or
something. :)
Wacky
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 15:23:25 -0300
From: beheader@sili.com.br (Pedro Prado)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Well, perfection is
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970829152325.006afba0@pop.sili.com.br>
>are you blind? i said nothing of the sort. i was defending DT saying they
>shouldn't be held up to some ridiculous expectation that everything they
play
>should be executed with robotic precision. that if there ARE rhythmic
>imperfections in portnoy's playing, so what? he's human. i have no problem
>with portnoy's playing nor the rest of the band's. i think they're great.
i
>never said anything to the contrary.
>
>> I will say it again: just because he does little mistakes, this is not
going to
>> change my opinion about him: he is perfect and that's it!
>
>re-read my original post. you definitely mis-interpreted it.
Ok, I maybe I misinterpreted your words. So, let's make things clear: when
I posted the first message about MP mistake I was just making a comment,
something that could be interesting to notice. I NEVER said he is not good
because of this mistake and I NEVER said he (or any other drummer) has to
play like a drum machine to be good. This is so true that Portnoy is still
one of my favorites.
What I think is the reason for all those misinterpretation stuff, is my
first message's subject: "MP is not perfect". Let's just take the word
"perfection" off this discussion. That's it.
_________________
Pedro Prado - a.k.a. Beheader
Email: beheader@sili.com.br - ICQ: 1271907
URL: http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/3551
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 14:27:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Double sided CDs
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.96.970829142006.85370D-100000@acs3.bu.edu>
> It's a double sided CD, dumbass!
]From this quote I see that there really are three kinds of people.
Pessimists, optimists, and the uninformed. Eg.:
Mr. Pessimist: "Man will never travel to the moon."
Mrs. Optimist: "I bet they're gonna have recycleable containers someday."
Mr. Noclue: "It sure is a good thing K.I.T. could turbo-boost."
-Wacky
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 97 14:22:47 EDT
From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Conception "Last Temptation"
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+k9l,oA@tcx.tcco.com>
I've been listening to the new Conception "Flow" CD for the past few days and
I get the chills everytime I get to the solo of "Last Temptation". If anyone
has been able to transcribe this section, please let me know. It's one of the
most terrifying solos I've heard since Paul Gilbert left Racer X.
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:54:32 -0600
From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Finneus Gauge
Message-ID: <199708291854.MAA03338@mailmx.micron.net>
Does anyone know if FG just changed the spelling of phineas gage, the first
guy to get a frontal lobatomy or does their name actually mean something?
woot
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:12:50 +0000
From: "Brian Reeves" <ytsejammer2@worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: For Sale
Message-ID: <19970829191217.AAA26272@default>
Howdy
I have a few Discs that have been gathering dust
here for several months now.
If anyone is interested E-Mail me and I'll
get it to you ASAP.
Savatage-Streets $7
Savatage-Dead Winter Dead $7
Echolyn-As The World $8
Steve Morse-Southern Steel $6
Clockwork-Search $5
Shadow Gallery-Carved In Stone $8
All prices include postage
Phoenix: Seems Eddy Webb is makin quite a name for himself.
He even slammed one of us on his live show yesterday.
Something to do with all of us DT fans covering our computer
keyboards with saran wrap and sitting around jerkin off while we
E-Mail him.
Funny Dude Huh??
This shit was LIVE!
Putz
'nuff said
ytsejammer
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 13:23:59 -0600
From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FII
Message-ID: <199708291924.NAA05076@mailmx.micron.net>
ok guys I just got paid so I need to order the bonus tracks ver. of FII.
has anyone found a good price for the "you receive it on the release date"
deal? Is it just the Jap ver. that has the +2 or is it all the versions
outside of the US? thanks in advance.
woot
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 15:31:32 -0400
From: "W. Brian Henderson" <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Live to skank, skank to live
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970829153132.0069d580@pop.wam.umd.edu>
>They lost to a Brazilian "reggae" band called Skank.
Hrmm... Sounds more like a "ska" band to me. Haven't heard 'em, of
course, but any band with the word "ska" or its bastard child "skank" in
their name pretty much *has* to be a ska band.
Examples? Sure... (pardon my spellings on any or all of these - I've only
heard them being spoken of by my ska-punk friends, even though I myself was
in a ska band at one time (7th Grade Commando Chorus))
Skastifarians
Skatellites
Skankin' Pickle
Mephiskapheles
Skafflaws
Haley and the Skamets
Undercover S.K.A.
No [Skank] Doubt
See what I mean?
Brian Henderson, Ex-Cyberburlap
hender@wam.umd.edu
"...from rockclimbing to the chest, er, chess club..." -- Dr. Kirwan in his
Freshman Address today
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 15:52:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Thrak75@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: the simpsons theme in lydian
Message-ID: <970829155242_-1435860311@emout20.mail.aol.com>
lydian it is. very gorgeous mode. danny elfman is the shit when it comes to
writing. i believe i was told that he LOVES that mode.
and pardon me sounding like a lawyer (i mean, just came home from my second
day of law school), but one can almost aruge that elfman ripped parts of that
theme from the theme to "the jetsons".
lydian is good because one can do all sorts of fun stuff with that. from
lydian, you set yourself ever so nicely to play whole-tone stuff. and i like
whole-tone. it makes me feel wholesome after i come home from church and i
molested the altar girls. steve vai likes lydian, too. i don't think he likes
to molest altar girls, but one song i can think of that employs this
lydian-whole tone relationship is "the riddle", off of passion and warfare.
even led zeppelin seems to have a knowledge of lydia's mode. there's this one
tune, off of this album called "houses of the holy" (pretty good, too- this
other song, "the ocean" even has bits of 7/8 in it) called "dancing days".
and the opening riff that that page guy plays (not page hamilton of helmet,
mind you) says "beat me in the ass with that lydian pipe!!"
finally, another cunning usage of the lydian mode is to utterly confuse
people, and dupe them into thinking they're listening to a tune in a
MIXO-lydian mode. renaissance's "trip to the fair" off of one of the most
essential art rock albums ever "scheherzade" is the prime example. b mix or a
lydian? i always go with choice a, but i have gotten into passionate debates
over others who argue choice b.
so there- lydian mode. use it. love it. sodomize it occasionally. treat it
well.
if syrinx (what up, bitchass!) can give you history, i can give you some
music theory.
wooo-hah! gotcha all in check (bass line to this song also displays a lydian
character- go busta rhymes!!!).
ytsegoon
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david y. kobayashi
thrak75@aol.com
"i'm afraid of americans, i'm afraid of the world. i'm afraid i can't help
it. i'm afraid i can't." d. bowie
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:24:18 -0400
From: Lars Hellsten <lars@shaw.wave.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Huh?
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970829162417.0076a4ac@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca>
I'm just wondering... why are people e-mailing radio stations, and
requesting Dream Theater, then saying "I'm
e-mailing you because they're not getting any support from their label"?
Isn't that shooting yourself in the foot? Sure it's what we think, but all
you're doing is saying "please play DT", and then giving them a good reason
NOT to play DT. Do you really think commercial radio stations exist to
promote bands that aren't popular or well supported? Of course not.
What you should be writing is "please play DT" and then "they have a large
following that can be seen on the net, so I'm surprised your station isn't
giving them more airplay". I'm sure DT are more popular than some bands
that get a lot of airplay, but the imprssion I get from the messages people
have sent to DJ's is that you're giving the DJ's the impression the band is
less popular than they actually are.
*** Lars Hellsten <lars@shaw.wave.ca> ************************************
The Toronto Maple Leafs mailing list info: http://hockey.dyn.ml.org/
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 14:02:00 -0700
From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Huh?
Message-ID: <199708292102.OAA16982@ichips.intel.com>
>I'm just wondering... why are people e-mailing radio stations, and
>requesting Dream Theater, then saying "I'm
>e-mailing you because they're not getting any support from their label"?
Well I don't know if "people" are doing this, but it's what I did.
I felt that I needed to explain a possible reason why they might have
not heard anything from their label...it is probably a redundant thing
since I'm sure they know far better than us how much the label promotes
the band at that station. However I don't see how it can hurt if
we emphasize that label support or no label support, the fan support
is there...
>What you should be writing is "please play DT" and then "they have a large
>following that can be seen on the net, so I'm surprised your station isn't
>giving them more airplay".
Yes, that's basically what I said...
>I'm sure DT are more popular than some bands that get a lot of airplay,
Nope, don't think so. The simple fact that they get airplay makes them
more popular by default.
>but the imprssion I get from the messages people
>have sent to DJ's is that you're giving the DJ's the impression the band is
>less popular than they actually are.
All I can do is speak personally, and DT is virtually unknown around here.
Instead of lying and saying that DT is sweeping the country by storm, I
chose to make the point that the radio station could lead the revolution
of a great band that is under-represented in modern radio. This is
probably being naive, though. <shrug>
Jim
-- Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> | If I had a witty remark that MD6 Design Engineer, Intel Corp, Hillsboro OR | would better the lives of my -=(UDIC)=- Subconscious Dragon -=(UDIC)=- | fellow mankind, do you really ** I don't speak for Intel ** | think I would put it HERE?------------------------------
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:06:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Mathew and Melissa <palze@tcccom.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: southern wisconsin jammers Message-ID: <199708292106.QAA21278@bsd-03.tcccom.net>
hey all! i found the email for WJJO 94.1, and i sent them an email. no response yet, but here's there email address:
wjjo@wjjo.com for lunch requests.
maybe if they get a few more people asking, they'll play some. :)
mathew
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 97 16:14:17 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: voice problems when sick Message-ID: <34073ba973be014@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
> >>I need some advice from fellow singers. What do you do when you > >>have a cold, but still have to sing?
I just talked to my sister (a voice major) (we're both sick right now) and she said that first thing in the morning when you get up, gargle with hydrogen peroxide BUT DON'T SWALLOW IT!!!! Then wipe the back of your throat with cotton swabs. This is more a preventitive measure than a cure, you should do it as soon as you notice any congestion/sore throat/whatever. She also said that gargling with salt water, which I recommended, just dries out your throat. *shrug* beats me.
-Brian
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:22:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Jones <mgjones@mcs.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Queensryche CD Rom Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95.970829171913.15486A-100000@Mars.mcs.net>
I don't have mine handy at the moment, so I can't tell you exactly where they are at, but look for the two largest .mov files in one of the subdirectories. I don't remember which CD they are on, but they are significantly larger than the rest of the files. You can play them directly. If you can't find it, email me and I can locate the exact files.
-- Mike Jones mgjones@mcs.net mike@biggorilla.com http://www.biggorilla.com
On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, John Hough wrote:
> > I bought this a while ago and personnally I didn't like the 'game' itself > and became to annoyed with it to finish it to hear the song. Does anyone > know the code to skip to the end and hear the song? > > John Hough > jhough@mindspring.com > http://www.mindspring.com/~jhough > GO PADRES!!!!!!! > Tony Gwynn .400 watch ------ 8/19/97 ----- .379 > > > >
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 15:30:22 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ELP, synths, IQs Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970829153016.006be874@cats.ucsc.edu>
ELP: Hey, the "Welcome back my friends" is from Karn Evil 9, first impression, _part_2_. Jeez, can't you people remember the simple name of a song??? (big sarcasm alert over) :) :) :)
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Keyboard vs Synth vs Workstation: Okay, there's no fixed definition of a synth vs keyboard, but here's what is more or less the working definitions:
Keyboard: Anything with those little black and white keys and is not a piano or organ :)
Synthesizer: Anything that builds sounds from simple waveforms (like sine, aquare, sawtooth) rather than samples.
Sampler: I think we know what this means. Note that most modern keyboards have both sampling and synthesis technology.
Workstation: Usually has other bells & whistles like a built-in sequencer, advanced accompaniment, etc.
But what, you ask, about the difference between "real" and "toy" keyboards? Here's my criteria, and this is completely personal.
Anything with build-in speakers is a toy keyboard, or to be polite "consumer" level rather than "professional" level. The only people who don't have a separate amp are people who never intend to play outside of their bedrooms. Yes, some digital pianos have them and are pretty darn good pianos, but all the "pro" level models of the same units don't have the speakers.
Anything with smaller than full-size keys is a toy keyboard.
(and here I'll get into trouble) anything with auto-accompaniment or little pictures of drums over the keys is a toy keyboard. Hey, want to PLAY, not do the one-finger groove, and if I need pictures over the keys to tell me where the General-Midi drums are (ugh) then I'm not serious.
Oh, Anything with general-MIDI as its only sound source is a toy. GM is good for video games, computer soundcards and such when you want to get the same sound out of different hardware, but the sound source is weaker, less expressive, and just sounds worse than non-GM keyboards. Example: I've never heard a GM sound that layered samples. Most 'boards these days, when you open the hood and program sounds, let you layer 2 or 4 or more sounds to create your patch sound. GM does no have this. you get "piano" or "sitar" and that's it. :P :P ANy wonder why the coolest new stuff (JP-8000, Prophecy, Roland's JV series, Korg's Trinity, etc) are all either no GM at all, or offer GM as a special mode, but are normally not in GM mode?
Yep, I'm gonna get flamed for this by people who own what I call "toy" keyboards. Oh well. Let's try to keep it polite, eh?
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And lastly, yup that IQ test was a sham, I'm sure. He's trying to sell you on his full $14.95 profile. ich.
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