YTSEJAM digest 2913

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Aug 29 1997 - 03:05:31 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) ACOS Project Update; Tools of the trade
     by "Brandon Vaughn" <bvaughn@snowhill.com>
      2) IDEAL FOR BEGINNERS WORK-AT-HOME
     by rewards@t-1net.com
      3) German Music Express (NDTC)
     by "Brandon Vaughn" <bvaughn@snowhill.com>
      4) Re: IQ tests???
     by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
      5) Passion and Warfare novel?
     by Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
      6) Re: IDEAL FOR BEGINNERS WORK-AT-HOME
     by eckie@asu.edu
      7) Re: Yes on the radio
     by "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
      8) Re: IQ tests???
     by eckie@asu.edu
      9) Re: Metallica producer
     by "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
     10) Re: a good radio experience
     by "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
     11) Re: Los Bastardos
     by "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
     12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2910
     by MellowD502@aol.com
     13) Japanese Import of FII
     by JB <beamup@vt.edu>
     14) Gridiron kings of the 'Jam! (Another survey...)
     by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net>
     15) Re: Volare
     by "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
     16) Singing and stuff
     by "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
     17) MP Drumming
     by DrummerEsh@aol.com
     18) Re: UK Release Date/Live In Tokyo
     by DrummerEsh@aol.com
     19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2910
     by DrummerEsh@aol.com
     20) Freddy Jones Band/Around the World/Singing when sick
     by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
     21) Queensryche CD Rom
     by "John Hough" <jhough@mindspring.com>
     22) Re: radio tunes......elp and CRIMSON! (Radio stuff and
     by Matt Mommaerts <mattymo@inxpress.net>

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:02:43 -0500
    From: "Brandon Vaughn" <bvaughn@snowhill.com>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: ACOS Project Update; Tools of the trade
    Message-ID: <199708290307.WAA14916@frost.snowhill.com>

    Just wanted to let everyone know where I was on the ACOS project. I have
    currently finished checking through Crimson Sunrise, Carpe Diem, The
    Darkest of Winters, and the Crimson Sunset. I've found several errors in
    all except for Carpe Diem. Currently checking Inevitable Summer (with
    errors again). I haven't revised any files yet (pen and paper right now),
    but I'm hoping that after Monday to have the revised files available to
    you.

    I may have a file available that contains some parts that I am really
    debating about how to transcribe. There are about 5 parts now that I am
    really debating about (strangely none of them are the real fast runs -- not
    that I can play the fast runs, but Petrucci is so darn clean in his
    technique -- most are chords).

    Now, let me divulge some of my transcribing secrets to you guys. First of
    all, check out http://www.replayinc.com/ . They have a program called
    CD-looper. It slows down the song up to 4X without lowering the pitch.
    The sound can be a little poppy, but definitely worth the $60 (?) price.
    They have a demo available. Check it out! I can't imagine transcribing a
    song without it now. The day of slowed down tapes is over for me.
    Petrucci's licks are easily figured out with this. In fact, only a couple
    of times did I have to slow it down to 3X. The bass might be more
    difficult even though the pitch is not dropped.

    The other program I use regularly is Tabestry, now known again as Bucket
    O'Tab. They can be found at http://www.his.com/~gse/bucket/ . Again they
    have a demo. It can import and export ASCII tab. It can handle 7 strings
    as well as insert odd time signatures. It can print out nice TAB!! It can
    play the music via MIDI (but it is not that great). Some of you may want
    to get this as well. Later, I will make my Tabestry files available on an
    individual basis for those who wish to get this program and get a "better
    than ASCII" version of ACOS to print out.

    Now...back to checking...
           \\||//
         ~~..'~
           ( \ ) Brandon Vaughn
            \ c/
          __\/__ "The Mad Tabber"
         / \
      < . _ \ bvaughn@snowhill.com
      \ `\ \ -' / \ \ ,,,_ vaughn_b@popmail.firn.edu
    >|""O[|||||nn[:::<
      /_,--- ._\ '''''~
      ~ | |
          | | |

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:09:28 -0500
    From: rewards@t-1net.com
    To: rewards@t-1net.com
    Subject: IDEAL FOR BEGINNERS WORK-AT-HOME
    Message-ID: <199708290309.WAA29789@quick.we-deliver.net>

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:20:45 -0500
    From: "Brandon Vaughn" <bvaughn@snowhill.com>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: German Music Express (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <199708290325.WAA16060@frost.snowhill.com>

    Can anyone tell me their experiences with the German Music Express? I was
    wanting to place an order with them, but I wanted to make sure they were
    reliable (I'm always hesitant about sending my cc# to a business I haven't
    dealt with before). If anyone can give me some info on them, I would very
    much appreciate it!!
           \\||//
         ~~..'~
           ( \ ) Brandon Vaughn
            \ c/
          __\/__ "The Mad Tabber"
         / \
      < . _ \ bvaughn@snowhill.com
      \ `\ \ -' / \ \ ,,,_ vaughn_b@popmail.firn.edu
    >|""O[|||||nn[:::<
      /_,--- ._\ '''''~
      ~ | |
          | | |

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:47:45 -0400
    From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: IQ tests???
    Message-ID: <19970829025805.AAA10819@sni.pananet.com>

    > Hey, please, could you please post those addresses for IQ tests??
    > I don't know where I put Eckie's first post with the address... I'm
    > really curious to see if I'm a genius or if I'm a total dumb to forget
    > where I put his post... :-)
    >

    ahem! That's *Ernie*. Jeez, just a little .sig mocking and everybody gets
    confused:0)

    BTW, it's at www.iqtest.com

    ~Ernie uses it one more time:P

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    Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 00:01:34 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Passion and Warfare novel?
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970829000000.17334B-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>

    Hey Vai fans out there--

    I was loking thru some of my bro's old guitar magazines and found a 1990
    Steve Vai article. He said that he planned on writing a novel based on his
    album Passion and Warfare. Did this book ever come out? Thanks.

    Brandon

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:09:55 -0700 (MST)
    From: eckie@asu.edu
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: IDEAL FOR BEGINNERS WORK-AT-HOME
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970828210812.21472A-100000@general5.asu.edu>

    > I have been a business owner for over 30 years, involved in various
    > things,

    This guy's in the absolutely WRONGEST place to be! Musicians and
    businesspeople don't mix too well!
    ~Eckie

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 23:14:12 +0000
    From: "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Yes on the radio
    Message-ID: <199708290412.XAA10438@Walden.MO.NET>

    > OK, I shall now broaden that question. When was the last time you heard a
    > Yes song other than Roudabout or Seen all good people? And ELP song toher
    > than Lucky Man? There. Find an answer to that one.
    Now that would be a bit more tough :). Occasionally the radio here
    will play something different by Yes. I don't hear ELP much on the
    radio (of course, i don't listen to it that much). I did hear
    Marillion once a while back on a station that was doing something
    about songs from the 80's.

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:20:49 -0700 (MST)
    From: eckie@asu.edu
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: IQ tests???
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970828211534.21472C-100000@general5.asu.edu>

    > Hey, please, could you please post those addresses for IQ tests??
    > I don't know where I put Eckie's first post with the address... I'm
    > really curious to see if I'm a genius or if I'm a total dumb to forget
    > where I put his post... :-)

    *cackle* What? IQ? What test? I hate tests. I'm an artist
    dammit...they never have MY answer on the list of answers. And another
    thing...you forgot the word "ass" in that last line. Sheesh, if yer
    gonna hit yourself in the head, at least hit the forehead! ;)

    I said foreHEAD, not foreskin....
    Wow, this is a first for me...a TOTALLY off-topic post about absolutely
    nothing on the ytsejam.

    ~An Eckie's coming, to town, a fiery invader, burning it down, to the
    ground, the DISINTEGRATORS

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 23:23:22 +0000
    From: "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Metallica producer
    Message-ID: <199708290421.XAA12507@Walden.MO.NET>

    > =09Maybe the'll have a better arragement/production. Let's hope this
    > is the case (who will be the next Metallica producer?).
    Babyface.

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 23:33:02 +0000
    From: "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: a good radio experience
    Message-ID: <199708290431.XAA14014@Walden.MO.NET>

    > ~Eckie gets even with you, even with you
    Hehe :). I did hear this song on the radio last night while driving
    back from Hannibal, MO (musical wasteland). That's a big deal for
    that area, too. Not only did I hear that, but I also heard Crue's
    Girls, Girls, Girls :) and a kick ASS instrumental version of Low
    Rider that has some ripping guitar playing on it (who was this?
    Anybody know? They didn't announce it, but it reminded me a lot of
    Steve Vai). Same station. It was 105.9 KZZK out of Quincy, IL.

    Dale R> Newberry

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 23:35:12 +0000
    From: "Too Much Coffee Man" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Los Bastardos
    Message-ID: <199708290433.XAA14242@Walden.MO.NET>

    > >>Whats with all this dream theatre stuff?
    Surprise, surprise, he misspelled it.

    Dale R. Newberry
    "Here come the bastards..." -Primus

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    Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 00:42:16 -0400 (EDT)
    From: MellowD502@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2910
    Message-ID: <970829004152_1412326230@emout08.mail.aol.com>

    In a message dated 97-08-28 11:05:23 EDT, you write:

    << | Rick Barkhouse | Visit my homepage: |
     | <rbarkhou@atcon.com> | |
     | | http://dragon.acadiau.ca/~015691b/ |
     | aka Drusillus on #ytsejam | |
     +---------------------------+-------------------------------------+
     | "Through nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to live." |
     | - Kevin Moore, "Learning to Live" |
     +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ >>

    Aren't these lyrics by John Myung?? (Not Kevin Moore)

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    Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 01:18:47 -0400
    From: JB <beamup@vt.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Japanese Import of FII
    Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19970829011847.007b9860@mail.vt.edu>

    >>a good bit of news for the Kraut jammers: my trusty (and rich) CD
    >>dealer tells me that 'Falling Into Infinity' will be released on Friday
    >>the 19th of September in Germany, and that the Japanese import
    >>version with the 2 bonus tracks will be available on the 23rd. Just
    >>thought I'd share that one with you.

    How are they getting 2 bonus tracks on a CD whose recording time is
    already packed to the limit?

    JB

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    Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:15:25 -0700
    From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Gridiron kings of the 'Jam! (Another survey...)
    Message-ID: <3403B7ED.4A9E@phnx.uswest.net>

    Hey, y'all...again,
            We here at Ytse-Survey Int'l (me) have decided to entertain the
    idea of having an NFL team poll on the 'Jam. We (I) would like to know
    which NFL team is the most popular amongst those 'Jammers who follow
    them.
            E-mail the name of your favorite NFL team to:

     syoung@phnx.uswest.net

            I won't set an ending time on this one, except maybe the end of
    the season.
            
    Thanks, football fans!

    Steve Young (no, not THAT one!)
    syoung@phnx.uswest.net

    P.S. -- CURRENT COUNT: Steelers (1 vote...mine). Let the games BEGIN!!!

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 23:10:36 -0600
    From: "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Volare
    Message-ID: <199708290534.WAA14989@odin.ax.com>

    >And somebody out there who knows keys (KorgX3, you listening?), what the
    >hell is the difference between a synthesizer and a keyboard? I always
    >thought they were more or less the same thing....

    Technically they mean the same thing. Synthesizer basically means "Using
    synthesized (a.k.a. sampled) sounds." Usually what I refer to as a good
    synth I'll call a keyboard, and I'll call a mediocre one a synth. Not that
    the X5's mediocre, but heheh. My X3's a Music Workstation and can kick
    it's ass. :) Anything with a built in speaker and 32 note + polyphony is
    where I generally consider something a keyboard. It's just my way of
    putting down "girly" keyboards. heheh

    Did that make any sense? I hope not.
                KorgX3
                KorgX3@cyberhighway.net

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 23:33:52 -0600
    From: "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Singing and stuff
    Message-ID: <199708290539.WAA15051@odin.ax.com>

    >I need some advice from fellow singers. What do you do when you
    >have a cold, but still have to sing? Like... what do you do for
    >preparation (drink, eat, etc.), what do you avoid, and what do you drink
    >daily? I know this has been covered before, a ways back, so if someone
    >could just forward me those, instead, that'd be cool. Thanks.

    Drink lotsa TheraFlu and avoid milk like the plague. Don't eat Taco Bell
    before a performance. My friend says he sings better after a glass of
    lemoade. heh. Never tried it. Make sure to give yourself a good warm up.
     Start low and slowly build up. Don't shock your system by drinking
    something cold in the middle of a performance, if you really feel the need
    to drink something. Don't smoke. Period. And, well, I'm starting to
    sound like a U2 song, so I'll stop. :)

    >Can anyone tell me their experiences with the German Music Express?

    Very reliable. They sent my Time Lost CD to me within 2 weeks.
    Impressive.

    >How are they getting 2 bonus tracks on a CD whose recording time is
    >already packed to the limit?

    Two words: Dimensionally Transcendentalism. In layman's terms they are
    convoluting towards exceeding the dimensional capacity limitations of
    phyical read/write data area on the compact disc and force the locations of
    the musical tracks to be recognized in quantam space. Pretty simple when
    you think about it.

    Just watch Dr. Who.
                KorgX3
                KorgX3@cyberhighway.net

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    Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 01:50:21 -0400 (EDT)
    From: DrummerEsh@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: MP Drumming
    Message-ID: <970829015017_1519284037@emout11.mail.aol.com>

    Mike is the man he never misses a beat, everything is done intentionaly its
    just past our understand of it LOL!!!

    "When your talking to yourself and nobodeys home"
    Guns N Roses

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    Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 01:59:38 -0400 (EDT)
    From: DrummerEsh@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: UK Release Date/Live In Tokyo
    Message-ID: <970829015937_-1804266169@emout18.mail.aol.com>

    The Live In Tokyo is awsome you should definetly buy it, Awsome live
    performances including Ytsejam and to live forever.

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    Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 02:05:19 -0400 (EDT)
    From: DrummerEsh@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2910
    Message-ID: <970829020518_1394346952@emout08.mail.aol.com>

    Check out this Yes MP3 site i think. Im not sure but its like 2 volumes of
    live yes music, Im not sure but check it out if you like.
    http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/6677/filez3.htm

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    Date: Fri, 29 Aug 97 01:41:11 -0500
    From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Freddy Jones Band/Around the World/Singing when sick
    Message-ID: <34066f0667e3005@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>

    > But that's all before I've even heard the new Genesis, and the FREDDY
    > JONES BAND is supposed to be coming out with a new album too pretty soon
    >
    > (if anybody ever checked up on this band, because of my prior
    > recommendations or otherwise, I would love to know about it)

    I've been a fan of these guys for a while, they're really good. I don't have any
    of their CDs yet, though. I was going to see them in concert last summer, but my
    ride was late. Oh well.

    > Quick comment on the "perfect" drummers thread, if you want a "perfect"
    > drum song, look no futher then the new techno hit "Around the World."
    > I'm not sure if that's title, but if that isn't the title it might be
    > called "The Most Annoying Song In The World."

    Whoever
    wrote/performed/funded/had-anything-to-do-with-allowing-that-song-to-get-beyond-
    concept-stage should be shot. It easily wins "Most Annoying Song" honors.

    > I need some advice from fellow singers. What do you do when you
    > have a cold, but still have to sing?

    I gargle salt water, and drink plenty of fresh water (not ice-cold).

    -Brian

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    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 23:35:47 -0700
    From: "John Hough" <jhough@mindspring.com>
    To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Queensryche CD Rom
    Message-ID: <199708290643.CAA20894@brickbat8.mindspring.com>

     I bought this a while ago and personnally I didn't like the 'game' itself
    and became to annoyed with it to finish it to hear the song. Does anyone
    know the code to skip to the end and hear the song?

    John Hough
    jhough@mindspring.com
    http://www.mindspring.com/~jhough
    GO PADRES!!!!!!!
    Tony Gwynn .400 watch ------ 8/19/97 ----- .379

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    Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 01:44:46 -0500
    From: Matt Mommaerts <mattymo@inxpress.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: radio tunes......elp and CRIMSON! (Radio stuff and
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970829014446.007ee960@inxpress.net>

    Man, you think this list is bad sometimes, try the South Park mailing
    list... if you don't know what South Park is, tune into Comedy Central Wed
    nights at 10p/9p central for the funniest cartoon since the Simpsons or
    B&B. (It's also on Sunday nights at 12a/11p central. That mailing list is
    mostly (stupid) AOLers and losers that can't cut out their headers. So be
    glad the 'Jam is so cool. :-) although it did take us 2900 or so jams to
    get to be this cool.

    Just saw tonight that ELP is playing in Milwaukee the 20th of Sept. Cool
    huh? But wait... guess who's in town at a different place that night?
    Yup, Marillion. Sigh... decisions decisions. FNM is on the 25th of
    Sept... Machine Head/Coal Chamber on the 23rd....Good week for shows in
    Milwaukee!!

    As for all this talk of Radio stuff. You might know that I host a radio
    show... It is on a non-commercial Community station in Madison, WI. I talk
    to record companies who market their albums to me. Any Major label that
    has a new album out calls me (or hires a few marketing companies to do it),
    e-mails me or sends me stuff to try to get me to play it and report to the
    Radio trades (to get good chart numbers)... and I'm only a Metal show. In
    the same vein, the higher priced departments at these record labels do the
    same thing, but on a higher scale to the more Rock orientated stations.
    These rock stations (the bigger ones at least) don't really have too much
    to say about what they play. These stations pay consultants who "test"
    songs in "listening auditoriums" and rate them into what Demographic the
    song fits into. Or something like that... these so-called music experts
    know the songs that people will like... So unless the program director at a
    particular station feels that a song will do well, and make it so people
    don't tune out. Tuning out is the worst thing for a radio station, and
    frankly for the average listener... long cool stuff from Dream Theater is
    too much for them to understand and they tune out. Until you are a "DJ",
    you don't know how stupid the average listener is... it's amazing that they
    found the station to begin with... Metallica "one" will be on, and someone
    will call up... "Can you play 'one' from Metallica?" that's just an
    example. As much as I love DT, they'll never be as big as Queensryche or
    Metallica or whoever... but with every Album DT gets bigger, and we can
    only hope it gets picked up somehow... too bad MTV sucks now... All Elektra
    has to do is pay MTV gobs of money to play the video...

    So, in other words... don't get on the DJ's case too much, they'll get
    fired if they play too much stuff that's not on their music log...
    call/write/e-mail the Program Directors... and if you live in Madison,
    WI... tune in after Sept. 9 to 89.9FM on Monday nights between 11p-2a...
    you'll heard DT. If yer not Madison, find your local college
    station...usually the person that hosts the show picks the music, ask them
    to play it! (The official Radio "ADD DATE" for DT is Sept. 9th...FYI)

    that's it for now...

    Matt

    P.S. I still like Mike Bahr...if he weren't around where would we get this
    high quality stuff from? If you don't like him or what he's doing, don't
    talk to him or buy his stuff.(I just *had* to get my 2 cents in on that
    matter) I STILL gotta get some money to him...maybe some OT at work next
    week will help. <grin>

    mattymo@fox47.com
    mattymo@inxpress.net
    Personal Home Page: http://www.inxpress.net/~mattymo
    WORT-FM Mosh Pit page: http://www.inxpress.net/~mattymo/moshpit

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