YTSEJAM Digest 3325
Today's Topics:
1) Contributions to the list/Greetings (NDTC)
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
2) Re: signoff thingy
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
3) Mike Bahr Bootlegs For Sale
by Ryan Park <rpark@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
4) Re: Status Seeker/Afterlife remixes
by 015691b@dragon.acadiau.ca (Rick Barkhouse)
5) FW "Chicago" show...
by Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com>
6) sorta NDTFWC: fans at Deep Purple
by "Brian P. Kelley" <bpkelley@mindspring.com>
7) Fates Warning and Dream Theater recording quality (later in post)
by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
8) Re: Fates Warning
by Matthew Robbins-McDaniel <cfi@disknet.com>
9) concert report
by another brick in the wall <sgoldbe1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
10) Concept. greetings. sound, Tolkien
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
11) 20 Minute songs
by "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com>
12) My religious expereince
by dseeger@juno.com (Deborah J. Seeger)
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 15:25:26 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Contributions to the list/Greetings (NDTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971206151352.10957E-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Neal Brown wrote:
[Talk about Tolkien son's pressing his father books]
> (Something tells me this should all be in private e-mail, but such are
> the glories of an unmoderated list. =P )
Well, I really think that when you're posting to the list, you may
be contributing to the other people that are also reading it, but are,
perhaps, shy to comment or send anything to it. Let's face the situation:
there are only, say, 25-35 people that are frequent posters of the list,
while about 800-1000 people are subscribed... So, you may be contributing
to someone else.
> By the way...what the hell does []'s mean?!? There's a couple of jammers
> who use that as a signoff...Rogerio? *lol* That's been bugging me for a
> while.
Well, 4 or 5 people asked me what []s means and here it goes:
In latin countries (or so it seems) it is costumary to greet
friends or people that you consider a lot with hugs instead of with
handshakes (usually regarded as being a lot more formal than hugs). That's
what []s stand for: hugs.
But this is very interesting: in countries of the Middle East,
they have even other ways to greet people and I'm sure people from those
countries can contribute to the list about this.
[]s, Roger... :-)
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 15:33:52 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: signoff thingy Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971206152944.10957F-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Mark Lampert wrote:
> >By the way...what the hell does []'s mean?!? There's a couple of jammers > >who use that as a signoff...Rogerio? *lol* That's been bugging me for a > >while. >=20 > I always figured he was declaring an array (this will be a programmer jok= e). > :)
=09That would be declaring many arrays, right? :-) The compiler would have a hard time to catch that from the context, considering they don't even have name. :-)
> =B7 =95 Colonel Mustard = =95 =B7
=09[]s, learning Tk, Roger...
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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 12:38:49 -0500 From: Ryan Park <rpark@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike Bahr Bootlegs For Sale Message-ID: <199712061738.MAA00145@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Not to make this list solely a trading post, but I put up a couple of notices on Usenet a few weeks ago and got NO response. Well, I've got original Acoustic Dreams and When Dream and Today Unite CDs for sale. Bidding begins at $25, and closes at 11:59 P.M. on Tuesday, December 16th.
I've also got Rush "Closer to our Heart" and Tori Amos "Sugar Baby" CDs for sale, if anyone's interested. These are at a fixed price of $25 and $35 respectively (my original cost including shipping), or best offer + shipping.
Shameless plug: I saw The Rainmaker last night, it was AMAZING! Go see it. Multiple times. Take your friends. It was great.
Ryan
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:47:36 -0400 (AST) From: 015691b@dragon.acadiau.ca (Rick Barkhouse) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Status Seeker/Afterlife remixes Message-ID: <199712061747.NAA21149@dragon.acadiau.ca>
L. Jason Hartman wrote: > ... > I also have one of the Terry Brown remix singles. I don't remember if > it's Status Seeker or Afterlife. I DO know that it's still sealed. ;)
I had no idea that these existed... does anyone else around here have them? Is there much difference in sound quality? Could someone put an MP3 on Dr. Mosh's site? :)
// ============================================== // Rick Barkhouse <015691b@dragon.acadiau.ca> | // -- 706 Crowell Tower -- (902) 585-2700 -- | // Homepage: http://dragon.acadiau.ca/~015691b/ | // ==============================================
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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 12:23:03 -0600 From: Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FW "Chicago" show... Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971206122301.006a0a5c@enteract.com>
>Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 04:22:45 -0600 >From: "sykes" <sykes@inwave.com> >Anyhoo... the first opening band was GREAT! I didn't catch their name, but >they were a cool band that played what I call 70's-Cop-Show-Funky-Music, >combined with some heavy prog tendencies. A cool band complete with horn >section! Highlight of their set, for me, was when they belted out a fine >cover of Black Sabbath's "Sweet Leaf" Also very cool was a bluesy song >called "Fat Woman Blues" or something like that!
Don't know how you could have confused this band with any term near "great"-ness. IMVHO, they SUCKED FOUR-ASSED MONKEYS! As I spent my entire evening leaning against the monitor in front of the stage, I was thankful I had brought my earplugs. I'd call it "standard garage band with two brass players tossed in because they were friends and didn't want to hurt their feelings by tossing them out". Also, that "Fat Woman Blues" was abhorrent...the chorus went something like "Well, I'm so sad cuz I got those 'got no one to fuck me' fat woman blues" (all crammed into two measures, which also sucked) The bassist belted out these and other crude lyrics in a white-boy rapper voice. The only time they had a vocalist was on the Sabbath cover, and even that failed to impress me. I'd say the mood of the crowd was "indifferent, and wishing they'd shut up and go away so Fates could come on". Even the DJ from the local "rock" station cut them off at the end of the set, because they overstayed their welcome. The second band, "Rebel Without Applause" was cool and had a good groove going. And the singer/guitarist really got the crowd going, which was important, as I was pissed off and falling asleep at that point...
As for Fates...they kicked the monkey's asses, of course. :)
-Maddy maddy@enteract.com
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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 14:29:55 -0500 From: "Brian P. Kelley" <bpkelley@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: sorta NDTFWC: fans at Deep Purple Message-ID: <199712061826.NAA05352@camel8.mindspring.com>
Like alot of you out there, I was very sad to hear of the passing of Michael Hedges this week. Such a tragedy! A taper friend of mine said he was the most passionate, wild, eccentric acoustic players he had ever seen. I think he said he could play the guitar parts with his right picking hand and fill in with bass parts with his fretting hand. Any guitar players out there: What exactly is this method of playing called? All I know is it must be pretty difficult to learn, much less master. This is one gifted musical genius I, along with many others, will never have the pleasure to see live. My prayers go out to his family and fans of his music around the world.
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In other news... this is sorta NDTC but bear with me ;) Last night here in Atlanta, I decided to check out Deep Purple at House Of Blues. First had to head home straight from work to pick up my "Machine Head" LP and "Best of..." CD for them to autograph later. Missed the first 30 minutes or so, came in as they were finishing "Woman From Tokyo". The best part was that Steve Morse (a fellow Atlantan and of Dixie Dregs fame) was filling the guitar slot. Man, I would just dig to see JP and SM share a stage together -- I'd be in the ultimate heaven! All in all, a great rocking show -- man, SM totally shreds and Jon Lord is still "The Lord Of The Keys". Only complaint was the voice monitors were low in the mix. Other than that, the sound was AWESOME!!! Ran into Vaiman and his brother there too!
And yes, for all you wondering, they DID play Perfect Strangers! (and Highway Star) for the encores :). Vaiman made the call!
Well, he and his bro ended up leaving right afterward, but I was gonna stick around in the frigid chilly night and get their autographs (with my trusty purple marker!) Went to the car, got my DP albums and preceeded to wait outside the back door for the group.
Amidst the cluster of autograph seekers, I ran into a few DT and FW fans. Small world isn't it?!! Most of the FW fans had no idea about the Outer Edge show and vowed with their lives that they would be there, as well as with DT!! Talked about bands ranging from Yes, Marillion, Maiden, Priest, amongst others. But somebody mentioned something that I just couldn't believe...
Now, forgive me if this has been mentioned here or the FAQ, but this dude said that Kevin Moore is now WITH FW!! He must've heard it as some rumour and I haven't heard it mentioned on the Jam before. Just checked the Island In The Stream FW page and they said their present touring keyboardist is Jason Keazer. No mention of KM (except for Zander's contribution on Chroma-Key). Could somebody please confirm this for me!! This guy must be BS'ing!!!
Got all of DP's autographs eventually (man, it was brutally cold waiting for them BUT worth it :) All of them are really great guys and especially Roger Glover and Ian Paice -- the most talkative of the two. An equal honor, of course, was talking to SM. Very nice person and he signed his name with a little guitar on it. Aaaaaah!!! ;) Can't wait to check out The Steve Morse Band sometime soon. (Also need to get some Dregs CDs!) The coolest part was that they were carted away in this jet black Hum-Vee [sp?] extended cab -- it was totally SCHWEEEET!!!!
But those FW fans I were talking to told me to DEFINITELY buy APSoG!!! They also mentioned that if you love DT, then you'll definitely like Enchant. Opinions? Comments?
That's it!! I've cluttered up the Jam long enough ;) T-minus 10 days and counting for DT at Masquerade and Cashman's gathering. Woo hoooo!!!
Take the time, Brian
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 12:41:44 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates Warning and Dream Theater recording quality (later in post) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.971206115750.18381C-100000@rossby>
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Jason Braswell posted:
I don't want to insult anyone, but I just had my first FW experience with APSoG, and I must say that I wasn't impressed even in the least. There was a total of about two minute's worth of real composition on that album, and the rest was minimalist plunking! Anyone else agree with me, or am I alone? jason
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Jason,
I think you will become increasingly alone on this opinion, because after more and more listens, Fates' pure talent and musical writing abilities will become more apparent. IMHO, APSoG is a complete masterpiece, and should not be underestimated as an astounding CD.
I now rate it 2nd on my all-time list to Images and Words, and I wasn't that impressed initially with APSoG either. It was good, but too much to absord all at once.
Now for my experience with Fates: --------------------------------
I first got the Chasing Time CD, which was a mistake. I didn't like much of what I heard, and ended up returning it after a bit. Later, I decided to give Fates another chance, and picked up Perfect Symmetry. Most of the time, the vocals were awful, but the music ruled so much, that I stuck with it. At Fates' Hands is an incredible tune with a wicked instrumental section finishing up the song. I think "At Fates' Hands" is the "metropolis" of Fates Warning.....
Next I picked up Inside Out. I was extremely impressed by the dramatic improvement in the vocals. Excellent vocal work, and Mark Zonder got even better on drums. I was impressed by this CD, however the songs were a bit more poppy and less progressive. However, extensive use of 7/4 time occurs on this CD. "Monument" is certainly a highlight of this CD, as it is one of their best tunes. I'm appreciating IO more and more lately....
Then, I heard about this APSoG CD, consisting of one 53 minute song. "MOST COOL" I thought. They're going more progressive and unique! I was expecting some unique and very interesting stuff when I first got this CD. My first listen was that this was a good CD. It took a while for it to pick up in tempo and aggression, and it finished kind of with a wimper, but nonetheless, it was good. Although now I interpret the ending as a "whisper" rather than a "wimper"!
Now, the more I listen, the more impressed I am with APSoG. I notice cool things like the use of the same lyrical pattern, but in a different melody line. Also, there is a track later in the song, which is a piano, acoustic guitar duet which is played in 4/4, 4/4, 5/8, 4/4, 4/4, 5/8, 4/4, 4/4, 5/8, 4/4, 4/4, 4/4 repeating pattern. I usually notice time sigs and stuff when I first listen to songs, since I'm a technical drummer who first loved RUSH prog. music in high school (my first prog. band). Anyway, I first noticed these time changes in this acoustic part at the Fort Worth concert I went to AUG 2. EXTREMELY COOL WRITING!! They made it sound so natural that I didn't really even notice these time changes going on.....
Just recently, too, I noticed that they bring this melody line and time change sequence in track 11 (I think), with the whole band playing, heavy and all. Again, EXTREMELY COOL!! Mark Zonder is MOST AMAZING on this CD, once the tune rocks more. Some of the things Mark plays is just awesome. Jim Matheos is a master song writer. I continue to respect him more and more. The way the "let nothing bleed into nothing" chorus is brought back occasionally in the tune is also masterful. And the intro vocals: BEST I'VE EVER HEARD RAY ALDER. He has incredibly improved his vocals over the years from pure screaming metal to tasteful, artistic, and controlled. He can sing rough and scratchy when he wants to, and then can bust out a strong, moledic line among the best of them. Further, Joey Vera is an excellent bassist. I definitely like him better than their former bassist. He can jam in concert, and does so on the CD!! And those 5/4 bass lines in the middle of APSoG: WOW!!! Raw, yet controlled and tasteful.
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And of course, Kevin Moore on keys. We all know it doesn't get much better than Kev' on the keys. I think he helps to really make this CD a winner as well. I regret to admit this, but Kevin really had the chops and chunk on the keys compared to Derek S. Granted Derek has the edge for jazz, but I think Kevin can nail down a more cool souding solo (as in Scarred vs. A Trial of Tears) than Derek. (However I haven't seen DT in concert, so I'm just judging the keys on ACoS and FII)
Anyway, Jason, if you don't give APSoG at least 2-4 more months of a chance, with fairly regular listening, I think you'll be missing out on an exquisite listening experience. There are more things to notice and pick up on with every careful listen, and eventually you will realize what a work of art APSoG really is. Anyone else agree with me here?
Finally, I purchased Parallels over the summer, after the Fates concert. A most excellent CD, with a HUGE improvement in recording quality and vocals from Perfect Symmetry. PS wasn't a bad quality
**sidenote criticism about FII sound quality***
(like WDADU **no bass** and unfortunately, FII: i.e. muffled treble sound, like if I'm wearing earplugs or something. Drums and vocal clarity diminished dramatically from AWAKE and IAW. The only improvement from past recordings is that the bass is clearer and better sounding. Keys are way tuned down, and guitars are too upfront.)
** end of sidenote **
Back to Parallels:
Another HUGE success for Terry Brown. I have never gotten a CD which wasn't awesome, that was produced by Terry. This guy is great! He produced both APSoG and Parallels, and those are the best CDs by Fates. Also, the best of RUSH was produced by Terry as well. He is the ultimate prog. rock producer, case-closed!! Terry, please take a bow for us. I **REALLY** wish he would produce the next Dream Theater CD. I betcha it would be the best we ever heard if the two of them got together. Just a suggestion, Dream Theater.....
What does anyone else think about my opinions (DT and Fates related) ? Sorry for the mamoth post. It's been a while since I commented much anyway.
E-mail me at: jcase@rossby.ou.edu
Later everyone,
Jon
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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 14:21:25 -0500 From: Matthew Robbins-McDaniel <cfi@disknet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Fates Warning Message-ID: <3489A5B5.1A8A23FC@disknet.com>
> > I don't want to insult anyone, but I just had my first FW experience > > with APSoG, and I must say that I wasn't impressed even in the least. > > There was a total of about two minute's worth of real composition on > > that album, and the rest was minimalist plunking! Anyone else agree > > with me, or am I alone?
Well, you're not TOTALLY alone. I've been a big FW fan for years and I was a little dissappointed with APSoG at first. I guess it just didn't live up to the pre-release hype for me. Its a little too mellow for my taste and kind of boring at times. However, it is growing on me more with each listen (as a lot of good prog does). I don't really see "minimalist" in the album, as much as I see carefully chosen notes. Its not that I hate APSoG, or that I'm not impressed with parts of it. Its more that I just don't feel its their best work. So, I'm more indifferent about it than anything. But eveyone is entitled to their own opinion. :^)
~Matt
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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 14:31:29 -0500 From: another brick in the wall <sgoldbe1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: concert report Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971206143129.006c6cb8@ic3.ithaca.edu>
Hey all, I'm new on here but have been a DT fan for quite awhile. Thought I'd start off with my report of the D.C. concert I saw last week. WHen we first got in there, nothing much was going on, except that a few of us noticed the b.g. music as DT, but nothing we'd ever heard before. We bugged the sound guy into showing us the CD -- it was some unpublished, unreleased stuff that they had recorded (a lot was mainly instrumental). THere were around 5 songs on it though I can't be sure, and I dunno what he said about it being released. However, for you die-hard archivists, this may be something to look out for.
But onto the music -- I feel bad for almost any DT opening band, only b/c the fans are expecting some kick-ass performances and are anxious to get going with it. "Big Wreck" played for about an hour -- way too long, IMHO. The guitarist was good, but the band didn't back him up well enough to really shake things up.
So then the ominous sounds of "Rooster" came on as we made our way up front. Derrick came out first, followed by John Myung, Mike, John Petrucci, and finally James. It seemed like the music never ended and sometimes they would start up the beginning riff of something and then change their minds and play another song. I can't even pick out a song that was the best (they all were great) but as a personal favorite, "Metropolis" stuck out for me. "Ytsejam" was of course phenomenal, and I'm glad I got to hear it live. Some lucky fan up front got one of Mike's sticks, and some got Mike or James's spit/sweat flung on them (yummy).
The best treat of all came before the concert started. While Big Wreck was on, I decided to check out the tour merchandise. While I was perusing the shirts, some guy came up next to me and asked the vendor about autographed CD's. They were only $20 as opposed to $15 for regular ones, so suffice it to say I gobbled one up. All five members signed the insert which is proudly displayed on my wall.
||___|| ||___|| sarah ||___|| "I sync, therefore I am." -- filmmaker's creed ||___|| If you can't read this, you are illiterate. ||___|| ||___|| ||___|| || ||
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 14:45:48 -0500 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Concept. greetings. sound, Tolkien Message-ID: <19971206094016.AAA21883@sni.pananet.com>
> BTW, I heard (don't remember the source) that Opeth will be doing > a concept album! >
hmmm, i was under the impression that 'Morningrise' is a concept album...
> In latin countries (or so it seems) it is costumary to greet >friends or people that you consider a lot with hugs instead of with
Heh, i think thats more of a brazilian custom...In most latin countries (as far as i know) we give handshakes w/ men, and kisses on the cheek to women... Of course in special occasions there are hugs.
>(like WDADU **no >bass** and unfortunately, FII: i.e. muffled treble sound, like if I'm wearing >earplugs or something. Drums and vocal clarity diminished dramatically >from AWAKE and IAW. The only improvement from past recordings is that the
>bass is clearer and better sounding. Keys are way tuned down, and guitars
>are too upfront.)
Hasnt this topic been covered enough? Anyhoo, as far as bass goes ( i assume your referring to the frequency, not the instrument) i think there's plenty of it...i even have to trim the lower end of the eq when i listen to it..However, the bass drum has more of a 'thud' than a 'punch'
Drums...i can hear them clearer than ever..I can understand evrything MP is playing.
Keys? With every listen, I notice more and more that Derek is playing rhythm with his guitar sound, so it sounds like its just guitar...there are a lot of parts like that (like the heavy riff in NM right b4 the last chorus).
ABout Tolkien...It seems to me nobody has mentioned Rush's 'The Necromancer'?
later, Ernesto
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 14:32:27 -0500 From: "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com> To: "The Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: 20 Minute songs Message-ID: <199712061959.LAA00808@odin.ax.com>
>There were once these black vinyl things called records. They could hold >not much more than 20 minutes on a side, so if you wanted to write a long >song, you had to make sure you didn't go beyond that limit, unless you >wanted to do something real cheesy like the fade-out/fade-in as in Focus >III and Brain Salad Surgery (which is PRESERVED in the atlantic cd version, >grrrrrrr).
or Jethro Tull's "Thick as a Brick" for that matter...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Birzer "One likes to believe in the freedom of music "The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity." longshot@pressroom.com Rush - The Spirit Of Radio --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 15:33:00 EST From: dseeger@juno.com (Deborah J. Seeger) To: fates@tier.net, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My religious expereince Message-ID: <19971206.153704.5039.4.DSeeger@juno.com>
Just to piss off you Jammers who have yet to realize who the best band REALLY is, this is going to the Ytsejam, too! (Jason, you picked the WRONG time to diss Fates, buddy!)
FATES WARNING......DECEMBER 5, 1997.........JACKHAMMER.....SCHAUMBURG, IL
How much did this show kick ass? Let me count the ways...
Got in line to get in about 7:00-7:15. We thought doors would open at 8. Yeah right. While we were waiting in the doorway to the club, the boys walked in one by one, using the same enterance we did! I thought that was strange. They looked pissed. Later, inside, I think i had a good idea on why they would look so. Parallels Dude Dave found me and told me that Fates weren't getting on till about midnight! I'd be pissed too, I guess.
After what seemed to be an eternity, the first opening band took the stage. Didn't bother remembering their name. All I remember is they were some funk-ska kind of outfit and they played WAY too long for an opening band. Then, Rebels Without Applause came on. They didn't play as long as the first band, but I kinda wished the first band got cut off sooner because at least RWA were entertaining. Neither of these bands were great, but at least they were tolerable.
Shortly after midnight Fates FINALLY started playing! Holy shit, this show beats the House Of Blues show from earlier this year into the ground! It helps when you're in the front row! :) They sounded awesome, as usual. Ray is just a maniac! He knocked over his mic stand and even accidently stepped on Jim's foot , probbably because the stage was kind of on the small side. The new keyboardist was an improvement over Ed Roth, that's for damn sure! What was the guy's name again? I know someone must've mentioned it. Mark and Joey - what can I say, extremely tight, as expected. Jim is still god. Heh heh, saw his little nameplate on his rack! And is that picture of his daughter? It was great to see they brought back a couple older songs in their setlist, but I still wish they'd take some of the REALLY old stuff on the road with them!
And a special "Yo" goes out to the people I met - "Sykes," Sir Christopher Ptacek with the faithful Miss Maddy at his side, Dave from Parallels (sorry, dunno your last name!) and these two guys Steve and Dave I met through a friend over two years ago who saw and remembered me (just in case they subscribed in the last 12 hours!) It was great hanging with you all!
Debbie Seeger DSeeger@juno.com
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