YTSEJAM Digest 3365
Today's Topics:
1) Concise vs. complex
by Chad Mitchell <kerensky@telepath.com>
2) TSO, Disposable Heroes, sharing the stage with DT
by "Ken McWatters" <kmcwatters@hotmail.com>
3) Re: Turtles
by Einstein H Zappa <afn39111@afn.org>
4) dt concert setup
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
5) Marillion (and Savatage)
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
6) Have we forgotten where we are?
by AL <al@isd.net>
7) More industry injustice
by "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com>
8) Muzak industry
by "Neal Brown" <nealus@hotmail.com>
9) Re: Songs before DT shows
by Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu>
10) Bombay Vindaloo
by PERCGR8 <PERCGR8@aol.com>
11) Random musings
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
12) NFL notes by Jammers
by Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
13) Fates in Atlanta
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
14) Irish Jammers
by "Robert O'Doherty" <r.odoherty@mvt.ie>
15) G.I.T.
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
16) An X-Files Christmas (long-apologies if you're not into it)
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:04:32 -0600 (CST)
From: Chad Mitchell <kerensky@telepath.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Concise vs. complex
Message-ID: <199712150104.TAA13558@telepath.com>
>>As you become proficient, you start to increase the length and
>>complexity of your compositions. Call it an "adolescent" phase of
>>creativity. ... As you really begin to master the process, however, you
>>become more concise, more able to express the creative thought in
>>shorter statements.
>
>I disagree. Consciseness doesn't necessarily indicate mastery. I
>personally prefer longer, non-conscise songs because they *tend* to have
>more to hold my interest.
Note also that length does not *necessarily* indicate complexity or quality,
either. There are *always* exceptions.
Chad Mitchell
Owner/GM - Oklahoma Outlaws
"Doctors get to bury their mistakes, Architects can only advise their client
to plant vines."
-Frank Lloyd Wright
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:11:21 PST
From: "Ken McWatters" <kmcwatters@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: TSO, Disposable Heroes, sharing the stage with DT
Message-ID: <199712150111.RAA13079@f134.hotmail.com>
Beavis (Wes Foll) declared about TSO:
>I was in shock!! I can't believe it's getting so much airplay and
>that everyone loves it. I know if it had Savatage's name on it,
>people would not like it. Stupid people...oh well, at least Sava is
>getting rich off of stupid people. PLUS their fans who know about
>'em anyways.
I agree to an extent. But Christmas Eve Sarajevo 12/24 did get some
airplay in the Christmas season, 1995, after DWD was released. I heard
it on the local Mix/Adult Contemporary station, with the soft-voiced
female DJ announcing, "we've had several calls about that. That was by
Sabotage [that's how she said it], off the album Dead Winter Dead." She
said the name slowly, like when you ask your parents for a CD for
Christmas and they repeat the name back, not really understanding what
they're saying. :) I do think the marketing strategy of producing a
whole Xmas CD featuring Christmas Eve Sarajevo allowed the song/album to
get a lot more airplay and sales. I'd estimate that with the crossover
to lighter rock stations the airplay of the track increased five to
tenfold with the release of TSO.
A telling moment came later in the 1995 season, when I think that same
DJ remarked to a partner on air that she liked the song, but it was like
Extreme.. they had one "good" song (More Than Words in that case) but
the rest of their album was metal. TSO has been a good way to get
beyond this kind of stereotype.
Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au> stated:
>Also, there was far more variety in the
>styles of music you'd see in the TOp 40. Today.... not so.
>Most R&B-House-Dance-Shit (RBHDS) groups going around today seem like
>they're just being churned out in some huge musical printing press
>out the back of Godknowswhere.
I have a theory on this situation. I think it is a product of modern
recording technology. See, I noticed that in the 80s when my local rock
station had a "new rock" hour in the late evenings that most of the
bands were okay, but they came across as very amateurish because the
song sounded like it was recorded through a tin can in a garage.
Bascially, you had to get a record contract to even have a chance of
regular radio play. However, now an unknown band can "make it" even if
it's their first record because the recording technology can make it
"sound" like other songs on the radio.
In my opinion, this has contributed greatly to fuel the alternative and
rap genres in the last 10 years. Basically, once a genre is deemed
successful, the record companies can search from thousands of possible
tapes for a new hit song instead of hundreds. This gives the impression
that these genres are thriving and diverse, when in fact other genres
such as progressive rock may contain just as much potential in new
artists. This may be a bit of an exaggeration, but at least I feel that
the record companies are in a better position than ever because now
their artists are more disposable than ever.
Oh, and count me in on having played on the same stage as my idols.
Although in my case the little band I was in basically played at a small
club in Houston for 30 minutes on amateur night; DT had played there on
the I&W tour before I'd heard of them. It was still nice to know,
though.
Ken kmcwatters@hotmail.com
URL: http://www.angelfire.com/tx/kmcwatters
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:20:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Einstein H Zappa <afn39111@afn.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Turtles
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.971214201551.100040A-100000@freenet2.afn.org>
Why are we talking about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
Anyway, I think they existed long before the tv cartoon came out in the late
80s, as a comic book (you know, where the pictures don't move?). I had
heard of the Turtles before high school ... in the mid 80s or so ... and I
don't think they were brand new.
While we're talking about comics, what DT songs do you think would go best
in a soundtrack for the best comic of all, Neil Gaiman's _Sandman?_
[ There has only been one thing in my life worth living for,
[ So it would take a true genius to fuck it up.
[ Call me Einstein Hawkings Tolkien Heraclitus Darwin PKD Zappa.
[ (http://www.afn.org/~afn39111)
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:42:19 -0500 (EST)
From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: dt concert setup
Message-ID: <01IR6IB0PITE000L0O@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
>there backstage waiting for the right 'mood'? It probly takes 20 mins
>alone just to set up MP's drumset :) I mean, the songs are played
>between the opening band and DT, right? So that's probly what they do with
>that time.
Maybe. Mike's gargantuan kit is already onstage, tarped, while BW plays.
But people kept crawling under the tarp for this and that, so i guess it
wasn't totally set up. Or something. I really don't know what the hell
I'm talking about! How about that? Huh? Huh?
I kind of like the pre-show music, especially the Clockwork Orange theme.
I don't remember if Derek's keyboards were out there or not from the start,
because I was annoyingly distracted by his swivel-action ass. :)
josh
rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:47:30 -0500
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Marillion (and Savatage)
Message-ID: <3494B662.8C392EEE@ameritech.net>
Well, my most recent purchases are Marillion's "This Strange Engine",
and Savatage's "Edge of Thorns" - oh can't forget I also got Pink
Floyd's "Delicate Sound of Thunder"
Anyhow, about my first Marillion experience...... I haven't listened to
it thoroughly yet, but my first impression isn't too great. Is all of
their stuff this mellow? It seems too.....sedate for my tastes.
I am more happy with my first go at Savatage. They pretty well rock. I
especially love the brief instrumental track #5 (Labyrinth, I think it's
called). I'll definitely be getting more CD's by these guys.
- Joe D.
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:13:29 -0600
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: YTSE Jammers <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Have we forgotten where we are?
Message-ID: <3494BC79.197CBAD4@isd.net>
Dumb question.
Why does a DT digest only have a 15% DT context ?
If I wanted to hear about other bands I would be elsewhere.
A small amount of comments relating to other bands would be fine.
Let us get back to the topic we all signed up for in the first place...
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:06:55 -0500
From: "Jason Birzer" <Longshot@pressroom.com>
To: "The Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: More industry injustice
Message-ID: <199712150546.VAA13939@odin.ax.com>
> I wonder why record companies complain that bands like DT don't sell
well.
> Just an observation, but I have YET to see FII advertised as a new
release
> anywhere. Maybe I'm overlooking something, but could it be their own damn
> fault? Without any label promotion, of course it aint gonna sell.
That is the way the industry works. The ones you see on sale are the ones
the label gave the stores deals on. This was explained to me by a guy a
Blockbuster Music. (He was also somewhat familar with DT. Too bad the
place is now closed. :^( )
>MTV shot themselves in the foot. I just did a paper on MTV so I'm in a
>really anti-MTV mood right now. When MTV first started, it was a great
>source to learn about new music. Now, with the advent of non-music
>programming ("Singled Out," "Real World", etc) less time can be spent
>playing music, much less new music. As a result, MTV is no longer seen as
>the new music source that it once was. That's not to say that radio
>doesn't base their programming on MTV rotation, but people are starting to
>get hip to the fact that MTV doesn't have it's finger on the pulse of
>music anymore. Oh, and about the music industry plummeting, it's not going
>to happen due to some global depression or anything. One of the music
>industry's biggest fear is, coincidentally, the internet. Imagine what
>would happen if major bands made entire new albums available for
>downloading off the internet, thereby bypassing the need for a record
>label at all? Granted, there are certain logistics that would need to be
>worked out, but if more people start having access to the internet this
>could turn into some scary shit.
You must be listening to Todd Rundgren. :^) I never thought of MTV as a
place for new music, since it would be played on the radio. It was a big
mistake to drop their all video format and I think they realized it with
the creation of M2. We did have a preview of it here and they did play a
variety of videos, most of which by groups I have never heard of. The
problem is, selling it to different cable companies. I couldn't care less
now.
I think the internet can be a big factor. Look at what we are doing here.
We talk about all the different bands that we like here and they get
exposure that they otherwise wouldn't get. I would never have even heard
of Spock's Beard out here on the east coast if it wasn't for this list. We
have places like HardRadio playing music that isn't played on the radio. I
don't know about Rundgren, vision of delivering music over the internet,
but I think the spread of knowledge is the biggest thing the internet
provides right now.
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Jason Birzer "One likes to believe in the freedom of music
"The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless compromises
shatter the illusion of integrity."
longshot@pressroom.com Rush - The Spirit Of Radio
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:54:57 PST
From: "Neal Brown" <nealus@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Muzak industry
Message-ID: <199712150554.VAA14664@f130.hotmail.com>
>Oh, and about the music industry plummeting, it's not going
>to happen due to some global depression or anything. One of the music
>industry's biggest fear is, coincidentally, the internet. Imagine >what
would happen if major bands made entire new albums available for
>downloading off the internet, thereby bypassing the need for a record
>label at all? Granted, there are certain logistics that would need to
>be worked out, but if more people start having access to the internet
>this could turn into some scary shit.
When I said that stuff about the world economy collapsing I was just
kidding, btw ;) But yeah, that's a good point about the Internet. For
one thing, it would take a LOT of space to put up a whole darned album
on a web page (especially these monsters we've been getting from OFB
lately, which, incidentally, would have been double albums back in the
70s). But the music companies would take steps to prevent that.
Copyright laws, probably, or maybe they'd work out some sort of deal
with the software companies. (In any event, Bill Gates makes more
money.)
>>Most R&B-House-Dance-Shit (RBHDS) groups going around today seem
>>like they're just being churned out in some huge musical printing
>>press out the back of Godknowswhere.
>I know a prominent tour manager who once referred to this process as
>the "BabyFace Car Wash." :)
LOL!! It's the preliminary stages of an alien invasion. The plan is,
they're gonna lower our defenses by making us dumber. Progheads of the
world, unite!!! ;)
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 01:03:29 -0500
From: Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Songs before DT shows
Message-ID: <3494C831.95BFCDFE@bu.edu>
> I dunno, i've never gotten to see them live, but maybe those songs are
> played instead of silence while the band sets up? Who says DT is sitting
> there backstage waiting for the right 'mood'? It probly takes 20 mins
> alone just to set up MP's drumset :) I mean, the songs are played
> between the opening band and DT, right? So that's probly what they do
> with that time.
>
I gotta agree with my fellow Terrier G' Dog, Wacky and say that DT did
need to make us wait. There was a good 15 minutes from when DT walked on
stage to when LiTs began. Although I do like the Clockwork Orange theme.
It's only three minutes, but it seems like an eternity because we know
who will be on the stage soon. MP's drumset is setup before Big Wreck
plays. If you see the Dream Posse live, you will see this behemouth kit
covered with a black sheet, which towers over the whole stage.
Isaac
-- "It sounds diminished ... but it's not"- John Petrucci------------------------------
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 01:22:20 EST From: PERCGR8 <PERCGR8@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bombay Vindaloo Message-ID: <c052cc49.3494cc9f@aol.com>
At the begining of this masterpiece harmonics are heard. This sounds like guitar harmonics to me but then so does the solo when it enters and the harmonics are still playing in the backround. Since this is a live album i find myself not baffled by this but too many ways to do this that i can think of. So i was in hope that you fellow jammers could help me. My friend says that it is the keyboards that starts the solo but i know that if it is the keyboards then the transition to guitar is god like. But then thats DT for ya. I came up with it might have been a sampled sound on the keyboards since i dont really hear any other keyboard part during the very begining with the harmonics. But there again that is a perfect sample if it is. And we both very outwardly threw out the idea that it could be the bass doing the harmonics. But i am unsure as to which, if any, of these ideas it might be. So if any of you know the answer you would settle a big question mark for my friend and I. Thanx
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:53:50 -0700 From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Random musings Message-ID: <000901bd0926$4b2eafc0$512746cf@sir>
First off, whoever mentioned that TSO "ripped off" Tchaikovski on Christm= as Eve and other stories (I think it was Rogerio. Actually it probably was since half of the posts nowadays are from him), You have to realize what that album is about. Sure they played some Tchai, but they also played a bunch of traditionals, and some other various songs that they didn't necessarily write. They didn't rip anything off though. there's a big difference between playing public domain Christmas songs on a Christmas album than ripping somebody off. thanks.
anyway, on with the post. I picked up Building Empires recently, and besides the embarrassing "History" section, it was very cool. The Unplug= ged session stood out the most for me though. Does anyone have this on video= ? Even tape or CD would be cool, but Video is preferred.
And finally, for those of us that are having a rough time with finals wee= k, here's something that's kinda therapeutic. Pick your favorite Christmas song and transpose it to a minor key (most of em are major). It makes fo= r a good laugh. I find that O, Tannenbaum works very well with this as it mak= es it sound like somebody's Christmas tree just burned down :)
For those of you who saw the light last year and picked up TSO's CD, I wo= uld recommend reading the first page over again. Just reading the story real= ly puts the holiday in perspective. Or better yet, take an hour and just lis= ten to the whole thing while reading all the extra lyrics that aren't sung. I've listened to this thing a huge number of times, but right about Ornament/Old City Bar, it has never failed to tug on the ol' heart string= s.
It rolls down stairs It comes not in pairs Runs over your neighbor's foot. It's great for a snack And fits on your back It's woot! woot! woot!
woot=99 from Blammo!=AE
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 00:06:07 -0700 From: Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NFL notes by Jammers Message-ID: <3494D6DF.7017@goodnet.com>
To all those Jammers bragging about the success of their local NFL franchises, I have this to say:
My team gets first draft pick next year! ;) :)
Yes, for the first time since the NFL merger, the Arizona Cardinals will finish a season as the worst team in the league. If we do NOT either pull a "1989 Dallas" and trade that pick for a shitload of awesome offensive linemen, or draft a VERY LARGE boy to protect my man Jake Plummer, I will support any initiative to get the team to leave Phoenix and will be content to wait until a future league expansion.
In other news, there's nothing to say really. CD faithful will be happy to learn that the Precious Things shipping process is nearly complete, leaving Darkest of Winters as the only backlogged DT title.
-- - Mike Bahr / Prism Records - durnik @ goodnet . com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:58:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates in Atlanta Message-ID: <199712150758.AA04197@crl.crl.com>
"Divine Regale has entered the building...."
Just back from Fates. One-word review: great!
This was, however, the first time (per Ray) that they'd performed APSOG before a seated audience: the venue had put out tables and chairs right in front of the stage, and these were full of people. There were people standing behind the chairs, but these were also the same people who, I noticed, were yakking during APSOG. :) When they played the shorter songs (and Ray mentioned the above) and Joey motioned for everyone to stand up and crowd up to the stage, we did. :)
Paid attendance was about 200, I think. Note the word "paid."
Divine Regale were at the show but apparently were not able -- or allowed -- to open. The opener was a local band, Blanket Party, who were actually pretty good in a somewhat-more-technical-AiC way. DR's keyboardist played keys for FW, of course. (and is a really nice guy).
Cool to see Ross/Thrak (from Balt. and Fla.) again, plus Phil Carter, Eric Marlett and Charlie Korch, and great to meet Rick Atkinson and Thrak's friend Steve. Wes/Beavis, the wuss, was a no-show. :)
I'll let the Fates experts give setlist details -- I'll just say that I have more of an appreciation for APSOG now. :)
Fates are apparently off on Monday and so are DT. The chance of a fusion reaction of cataclysmic proportions is quite real, should both bands actually co-exist within the state of Georgia simultaneously. :)
Tiiired......... :)
-- +-- ...once the cloud that's raining ---+- Paul W. Cashman ---+ | over your head / disappears | vanyel@crl.com | | the noise that you hear | www.crl.com/~vanyel | +--is the crashing down of Hollow Years.... --+---- ICQ #4151223 -----+
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:30:38 -0000 From: "Robert O'Doherty" <r.odoherty@mvt.ie> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Irish Jammers Message-ID: <61F3B4EC9D23D11181A0006097AD1D730809BE@skylight.mvt.ie>
Sorry to bother the rest of you, but are there any Irish jammers out there?
Rob.
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 01:09:15 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: G.I.T. Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-971215090915Z-5957@ms.Kallback.com>
>From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng" >Is the Guitar Institute of Technology still a popular place for music >students? Back in the 80s, it was "THE" place for shredders to go hone their >craft. I wasn't very good, but I dreamed about going there and coming out as >the next Yngwie or Van Halen. Just wondering. If I ever get out to the West >Coast, I'd like to visit. Yeah, it's a great place to go. Especially if you can get your wife to pay for it and then dump her the second she says "I'm pregnant". Fuckin' guitar players.
(Sorry for the rant, but this happened to my sister and I've been holding it inside for a few years. No offense to G.I.T.or guitar players in general.) >
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:12:01 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "Ron R. Beman" <ronb@ms.kallback.com>, Subject: An X-Files Christmas (long-apologies if you're not into it) Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-971215101201Z-6058@ms.Kallback.com>
> * * * > >* THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE... HO HO HO! * >An X-Files Holiday Sighting, author unknown :( > >Mulder: We're too late. It's already been here. > >Scully: Mulder, I hope you know what you are doing. > >Mulder: Look, Scully, just like the other homes: Douglas fir, > truncated, mounted, transformed into some sort of > shrine; halls decked with boughs of holly; stockings > hung by the chimney, with care. > >Scully: You really think someone's been here? > >Mulder: Someone or some THING. > >Scully: Mulder, over here -- it's fruitcake. > >Mulder: Don't touch it! Those things can be lethal. > >Scully: It's O.K. There's a note attached: "Gonna find out > who's naughty and nice." > >Mulder: It's judging them, Scully. It's making a list. > >Scully: Who? What are you talking about? > >Mulder: Ancient mythology tells of an obese humanoid entity > who could travel at great speed in a craft powered by > antlered servants. Once each year, near the winter > solstice, this creature is said to descend from the > heavens to reward its followers and punish its > disbelievers with jagged chunks of anthracite. > >Scully: But that's legend, Mulder -- a story told by parents > to frighten children. Surely, you don't believe it? > >Mulder: Something was here tonite, Scully. Check out the bite > marks on this gingerbread man. Whatever tore through > this plate of cookies was massive -- and in a hurry. > >Scully: It left crumbs everywhere. And look, Mulder, this milk > glass has been completely drained. > >Mulder: It gorged itself, Scully. It fed without remorse. > >Scully: But why would they leave it milk and cookies? > >Mulder: Appeasement. Tonight is the Eve, and nothing can stop > its wilding. > >Scully: But if this thing does exist, how did it get in? The > doors and windows were locked. There's no sign of > forced entry. > >Mulder: Unless I miss my guess, it came through the fireplace. > >Scully: Wait a minute, Mulder. If you are saying some huge > creature landed on the roof and came down the chimney, > you're crazy. The flue is barely six inches wide. > Nothing could get through there. > >Mulder: But what if it could alter its shape, move in all > directions. > >Scully: You mean, like a bowl full of jelly? > >Mulder: Exactly. Scully, I've never told anyone this, but when > I was a child my home was visited. I saw the creature. > It had long white strips of fur surrounding its ruddy, > misshapen head. Its bloated torso was red and white. > I'll never forget the horror. I turned away, and when I > looked back it had somehow taken on the facial features > of my father. > >Scully: Impossible. > >Mulder: I know what I saw. And that night it read my mind. It > brought me a Mr. Potato Head, Scully. IT KNEW I WANTED > A MR. POTATO HEAD. > >Scully: I'm sorry, Mulder, but you're asking me to disregard > the laws of physics. You want me to believe in some > supernatural being who soars across the skies and > brings gifts to good little girls and boys. Listen to > what you are saying. Do you understand the > repercussions? If this gets out, they'll close the > X-files. > >Mulder: Scully, listen to me: It knows when you are sleeping. > It knows when you're awake. > >Scully: But we have no proof. > >Mulder: Last year, on this exact date, S.E.T.I. radio > telescopes detected bogeys in the airspace over > twenty-seven states. The White House ordered a > Condition Red. > >Scully: But that was a meteor shower. > >Mulder: Officially. Two days ago, eight prized Scandinavian > reindeer vanished from the National Zoo in Washington, > D.C. Nobody - not even the zookeeper - was told about > it. The government doesn't want people to know about > Project Kringle. They fear that if this thing is proved > to exist, then the public would stop spending half its > annual income in a holiday shopping frenzy. Retail > markets will collapse. Scully,they cannot let the > world believe this creature lives. There's too much at > stake. They'll do whatever it takes to insure another > silent night. > >Scully: Mulder, I -- > >Mulder: Sh-h-h! Do you hear what I hear? > >Scully: On the roof. It sounds like . . . a clatter. > >Mulder: The truth is up there. Let's see what's the matter. > > > * * * >
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