YTSEJAM Digest 3358
Today's Topics:
1) Boston (Weymouth) review
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
2) Re: YNM debate
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
3) Re: Smack my Bitch Up!
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
4) Re: FW show attendance
by Cappy <mgjones@mcs.net>
5) Madsword (was: Ytsejam cover version)
by Anna & Heike Boedeker <boedeker@netcologne.de>
6) Re: DT and the Future.
by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
7) Re: Are you a Freak?
by Odd Ericsson <tl96dhg@student.hgs.se>
8) Re: DT and the Future.
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
9) Re: voltron etc.
by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
10) Vocalists?
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
11) Re: variety
by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
12) James LaBrie
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
13) Re: PMU, Rush, et al
by "Christopher Files" <cfiles@erols.com>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3357
by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
15) Predictable?... Well ya. A little.
by Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:51:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: fates@tier.net
Cc: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: Boston (Weymouth) review
Message-ID: <199712122351.SAA27708@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
WOW, what can I say... day 1 of progfest in Boston was incredible
(Fates on Thurs, DT on Sat). Alternate Route was a decent club...
but very few people were there... probably imder 200... The sound
was a problem, though :( I could barly hear Ray at all during part I
of APSOG...
Lte see, first off, Divine Regale was pretty cool, and I recognized
most of the tracks that they played from Horizons.. I also ended up
getting theiur new CD, Ocean Mind, but have not listened to it yet...
It was pretty cool seeing them... I talked to Chris Anderson, their
drummer, for the first time in a while (hadn't heard from him in 2-3
years, had actially traded with him back then for Horizons)... one
semi dissapointment about the show was that he told me that they were
going to do some back up vocals for Eye to Eye, but they didn't even
play it...
Now, on to Fates... I was right up front for the show, and was
standing right next to DR's bass player
Lets see, I haven't been paying attention to the reviews before
(wanted to go in w/o knowing antying), but I am guessdng that the set
list was fairly stnadard... Let see, they stared with APSOG, took a 5
min break, did a few more songs, then left, and finally came back for
an encore... Lets see... they played 11th Hour, which was amazing...
great crowd interaction during the chorus parts... DR's keyboard
player did an amazing job as well.. . during Monument, he played the
quick little part during the middle (the part that sorta sounds like a
coin spining) as well as the alternate ??? (what instrument is that)
part...
Overall, an amazing opening for progfest Boston...
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 97 17:52:45 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YNM debate
Message-ID: <3491c5771816004@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of <199712121950.NAA15857@telepath.com>
from ytsejam@ax.com:
> statioin listener and get them interested. There are unfortunately a ton of
> folk out there to whom Ozzy Osbourne and Ratt are "good music".
I happen to enjoy listening to Ozzy and Ratt (although I recognize that they're
usually not very technically challenging). Does that make me a troglodyte? If it
does, than you can just bend over and "suck my ass." BTW, Randy Rhoads could
give just about any guitarist a run for their money, so don't tell me that Ozzy
was never "good music."
-Brian
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"So understand, don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years.
Face up, make your stand, and realize you're living in the golden years."
-Adrian Smith
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 97 17:53:21 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Smack my Bitch Up!
Message-ID: <3491c5c71816007@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of <199712122136.NAA27784@norway.it.earthlink.net>
from ytsejam@ax.com:
> Not a bad idea but LaBrie's fucking ego gets in the way. This guy is
> one of the biggest assholes in rock and roll
He was cool when I met him, very nice to everyone that was there.
-Brian
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"So understand, don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years.
Face up, make your stand, and realize you're living in the golden years."
-Adrian Smith
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Coleridge on IRC
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 17:56:09 -0600
From: Cappy <mgjones@mcs.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: FW show attendance
Message-ID: <19971212175609.41212@mcs.net>
Jeff Keifling wrote:
>
> >>APSOG is a pretty quiet, contemplative song at times, and
> >>it could be absolutely ruined by a bunch of people making a lot of noise
> >>during the quiet parts. How's the noise level been so far?
>
> Quiet. We just stood there with our jaws on the floor.
Yes. I went to two of the shows on the second leg and the general reaction
is jaw on the floor, dazed. Since it's such a long song, it's a lot to take
in, and a lot of people really listen to it and don't go nuts and really
are pretty quiet throughout the song, clapping and hollering only during
some of the tranistions, and singing along during a few spots.
During the encore when they play shorter, heavier songs is when the crowd
really starts to go nuts and hollering their requests.
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:50:05 +0100
From: Anna & Heike Boedeker <boedeker@netcologne.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Madsword (was: Ytsejam cover version)
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971213005005.007cf100@mail.netcologne.de>
.. Arash Ashouriha ...
>Has anybody heared a band called "MADSWORD" from Italy ?
You betcha! :-) IMSNHO this is one of the most talented prog-metal bands
next to DT... all 4 really are virtuosos and Gianni Guerra is an excellent
writer, so you don't have to fear it just was some cheap DT clone...
>They have coverd "YTSEJAM" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Their version is a lot heavier and without keyboards. I think it's not bad.
>Anyone else has heard this cover version ?
Actually I've listened to this one more often than to DT's original... and
I like their "Tsushima" better than "Metropolis" (now if this wasn't a
reason for immediate unsubscription :-))
>Btw, some people have problems with my weekly top 10 albums. Why ?
>I mean, some people mailed what they have dreamed last night and nobody has
>something against it, which is absolutely ok. Any my top 10 ?
>I think it's a good idea to show others, what I've heard last week.
>Maybe they are some artists they don't know, so maybe they will get in to
them.
>Like Royal Hunt !
As I'm curious by nature I always look forward towards learning about new
stuff... :-)
Heike
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:34:26 -0500
From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DT and the Future.
Message-ID: <3491E621.3CB0FC27@enter.net>
Wow....I didn't think I would start a war about Rush, but I did. That
wasn't the purpose of my post.
Let me put it in simpilar terms now that I've read some reactions and
had some time to think it about for myself.
What the main idea I was getting was this:
Do you ytsejammers think that todays commercial world can be changed.
Or will it continually spiral downward so that my 5 year old nephew
banging on a pot and a pan will make millions.
I bring up this issue, because I have studied about personal and social
change and wanted to get a feeling of what the rest of the group felt.
I leave it at this and interject more later.
Bruce Duesterhoeft
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 02:46:07 +0100
From: Odd Ericsson <tl96dhg@student.hgs.se>
To: YTSEJAM digest <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Are you a Freak?
Message-ID: <3491E8DE.A65741F9@student.hgs.se>
I think Freak Kitchen is one off the best bands I have heard in '97.
They combined many different styles and make a perfect blend.
And the guitarist Mattias "IA" Eklundh really knows how to handle his
instrument.
He is must be one of the best new guitar players in the 90:th.
Check out there official homepage
Freak Kitchen Official Homepage - http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-60651/
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 21:31:04 +0000
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT and the Future.
Message-ID: <19971212162710.AAA6716@sni.pananet.com>
> Do you ytsejammers think that todays commercial world can be changed.
> Or will it continually spiral downward so that my 5 year old nephew
> banging on a pot and a pan will make millions.
I think it *can* be changed, but not simply by artists sticking to
their guns. As said before, most artists we hear today are signed
to record labels. The key word is 'signed' as in contracts.
Normally , the companies own the music, and they have the final say
on what is released on CD.
The way it can change, is if artists work together, so that the music
becomes the more important factor again in the term 'music business'.
After all, if no artists agree to sign with labels with the
contracts they're currently give out, it'll give us the power to
negotiate and get more of a fair deal out of it.
that's what i think,
Ern
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:37:49 -0500
From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: voltron etc.
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971212223749.0069c018@scott.skidmore.edu>
>Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:43:30 -0800 (PST)
>From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
>Subject: Re: Voltron
>cooler. They need to replace that sirupy-assed princess of the blue lion
>with someone like Sigourni Weaver or that chick from Terminater. There's
>a real battlin' babe!
Well is WAS anime...heh...all the girls are really skinny, tall, and
pretty. And USUALLY pretty wussy. Go watch Natsuki Crisis if you want
buff chicks hehe.
>Little boys play with little toys
>while us big boys will play with real toys. That goes for you kick-ass
>tom-girls, too. Which reminds me, did anyone have that kid-sister who
>always got one transformer or one go-bot- or one he-man figure, just so
>she'd be cooler? They just don't make cool chick toys.
Uhm, I had like, a lot of transformers (my favorite was Jazz!) and
GI-Joes, but my "brother" had every Star Wars, GI-Joe, and MASK figurine
ever created...spoiled brat. I guess that's what happens when you have a
lawyer for a dad...kidding! ;) I remember my parents refused to buy me
Voltron stuff, but bought me My Little Pony crap...bah...I did have almost
all the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles stuff...the old school crud (the dolls
with the rubber heads)....
Enough remeniscing...no one responds to my posts.
This was originally about a dream...my dreams are SO weird (the ones that
I remember anyway)! They're always really big epic stories. Anyone else
have a similar experience?
DT Content!!!! ANYONE GOING TO THE JANUARY 2 SHOW IN HARTFORD, CT, please
e-mail me!!! :)
Erica Bonomi, ebonomi@skidmore.edu
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 01:36:59 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Vocalists?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971213013430.10223A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
Ok.
Don't you people think Mustaine sounds like Donald Duck? :-)
[]s a bit curious :-)))), Roger...
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:43:42 -0500
From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: variety
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971212224342.0069a498@scott.skidmore.edu>
>Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 17:52:03 -0500
>From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
>Subject: DT live variety - or lack thereof...
> Is it just me, or does anyone else wish DT would actually throw some
>variety into their live show? I've been trading DT boots for awhile and
>after 2 or 3 from the same tour you've heard pretty much all the tour has
>to offer. The setlists, while occasionally changing a bit, are 95% the
>same throughout the tour.
Well, they did play some different stuff the first show in New Haven....
Okay, someone answer me THIS: why does DT only do Nightmare Cinema at
really big venues? I have YET to see it, and I'm jealous!!! ;)
Erica Bonomi, ebonomi@skidmore.edu
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 01:51:46 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: James LaBrie
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971213014108.10223B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Brian Hayden wrote:
> > Not a bad idea but LaBrie's fucking ego gets in the way. This guy is
> > one of the biggest assholes in rock and roll
>
> He was cool when I met him, very nice to everyone that was there.
He was not cool to me also. Maybe that's because I mentioned one
word with which he seems to have problem: "Ytsejam".
Very rude from his part. But let's forget this for a while. Let me
think that it was one of those days in which his mood was not very good. I
refuse to think that he acts like he did with me, because, if it were
true, DT would loose half of the fans they have.
On the other hand, John Petrucci is the coolest person that I've
ever seen, together with John Myung (he actually talks a lot, at least
with me!). Derek Sherinian was one of the craziest people that I've ever
met! Man, he is funny as a hell! He was wearing some shining shoes and
showing them to everyone... That was very funny. Too bad that I didn't
have some questions to do an interview when I met the guys. Myung
(and Petrucci) promptly told that if I had questions some questions there,
they would be pleased to answer.
Oh, how I hate myself! (Let's remember that when they were here in
Brazil, the new album was not even released and I could have some
interview that every newspaper/magazine would have dreamt of).
The only thing I really miss is that Portnoy wasn't available to
talk. I'd love to talk with him about the 'jam and bootlegs, since he
seems to be into boot collecting and (it doesn't take a genius to guess
:-) ) that I'm an avid collector. :-)
So, let's forget about LaBrie's personality. He's only 1/5 of the
band and, as I said earlier, maybe that was not one of his best days. I
prefer to think this way.
> -Brian
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 23:45:05 -0500
From: "Christopher Files" <cfiles@erols.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: PMU, Rush, et al
Message-ID: <01bd0781$e1f2c000$60a4accf@default>
>>How many of us
>>found DT after hearing PMU on the radio? I did. I distincly remember
>>hearing it a couple of times and thinking, you know, this isn't half bad.
I had 2 radio experiences that forever changed my life and brought me
into the wonderful world of prog. It was sometime in late 91 or early 92
when, as a junior in high school and a fan of late-80s hair bands, I heard
"Dreamline" (by Rush) on the radio (and I'd never listened to the radio
much, just watched MTV ...before it was eMpTV), and I said to myself, "Who
is this? This kicks ass!" After hearing "Roll the Bones" I decided to buy
the album, and it was some of the best stuff I'd ever heard.
Then in late 92 early 93 I heard PMU on the radio and had the exact same
reaction as to "Dreamline" (far above "not half bad"), only I liked PMU even
more because it had the combination of heavy metal *plus* keyboards *plus* a
guy with an incredible voice who didn't yell like the singers did in the few
heavy metal bands I was familiar with (although I was a fan of The Black
Album by that time--but for me, PMU blew Metallica's TBA away). I stared at
I&W in the store for a time until TTT was released, at which point I figured
"2 for 2--the album must be great" (as I'd done when "RtB" was released).
I&W blew me away, and I thought it was the coolest thing because none of my
friends or classmates listened to DT. They were my discovery, my band.
They'll always be my favorite band.
Scott said:
>They [Rush] went from writing some
>of the greatest rock songs of all time, prog or not, to becoming
>a Human League/Eurythmics clone in the 80's. That shit from Signals
>all the way through Hold Your Fire is all synth pop. I'm not saying
>it's all bad, but most of it sucks (sorry Merlo, it had to be said ;-) ).
I've read the other responses and must agree that "synth-pop" is just
way out of line in terms of describing Rush's 80s music. Yes, their music
did become more commercial than the stuff from _Hemispheres_ and before, but
not much more commercial, and I'm pretty sure that was not their intent. As
I understand it, Neil became disenchanted with writing the metaphorical
lyrics necessary for the epic songs (I'm referring to stuff such as
"Hemispheres", "Xanadu", "2112", "Natural Science", Jacob's Ladder"). He'd
enjoyed writing those types of songs, but it was time to move on, and he
started writing lyrics that came out and stated what he was trying to say.
I believe "Red Barchetta" is described by them as the last story-oriented
song.
So I don't think Rush was trying be more commercial (and I'll here agree
with whoever it was that mentioned Signals as actually being a great risk
after their best-selling MPictures and PWaves). Just because the songs have
become shorter to fit with Neil's more straightforward lyrics, it does not
mean the songs have become any less complex. And the synths were added
because Rush, like many other artists in the 80s, were very interested in
the synths and what they could add to the music--they always had been
interested. And they tried new stuff on every album. Power Windows is my
favorite album from the Signals-to-HYF period. The songs are *so* powerful
and so musically complex and well-written. And as I said, their music
wasn't *that* much more commercial--Rush got airplay on rock stations, but
certainly not on any pop stations like the Eurythmics did (w/ perhaps the
exception of "New World Man" which was really the only song written with the
radio in mind, I believe). Okay. I'm done. Long post--I'm sorry. :-)
~Topher
PS ~Why does Ikkie always talk about himself in the 3rd person? Is he
really Bob Dole with a alias? :-)
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 01:15:25 -0500
From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3357
Message-ID: <349227FD.54E9A51D@dreamt.org>
> From: Richard Warren <rwarren@memphisonline.com>
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3356
>
> There is a song on Acoustic Dreams called Long Island Expressway
> that has a bass line that sounds like Lie. The guitar part is
> acoustic.
And what, may i ask, are the initials of 'Long Island Expressway'? :)
--
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- Dream Theater, "Light Fuse And Get Away"
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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:31:47 -0500
From: Jon Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Predictable?... Well ya. A little.
Message-ID: <34921DC3.5DE2@net1plus.com>
> From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
> Subject: DT live variety - or lack thereof...
> Is it just me, or does anyone else wish DT would actually throw some
> variety into their live show? I've been trading DT boots for awhile
> and after 2 or 3 from the same tour you've heard pretty much all the
> tour has to offer. The setlists, while occasionally changing a bit,
> are 95% the same throughout the tour. And worse for QR, they play all
> their songs EXACTLY the same as the album version. Forget jams,
> forget improvs. Might as well play the album and have them pretending
> to play on stage. Why would anyone want to trade tapes of identical
> shows? DT isn't quite that bad, and it's always interesting to hear
> how James sounds from night to night, but for the most part there's
> absolutely no variety in DT live shows. Now, this doesn't stop them
> from being incredible live, but it doesn't make me want to do a
> road trip to see 4 or 5 DT shows in the summer if they're all gonna be
> the same...
Good thread... I completely agree with you. During the Home For The
Holidays shows a couple of years ago, they changed the setlist every
night. I thought it was great and I really regretted missing the Malibu
and Birch Hill shows (especially Birch Hill. The U2 tune was
fantastic!). Since (as well as before) then, their shows have become
somewhat predictable. It's a much better feeling if you go to a show
(or really several shows) not knowing what to expect. Picture this:
Night A:
Take The Time
Just Let Me Breathe
Hollow Years
Improv
Light Fuse And Get Away/Set The Sun
6:00
Silent Man (Electric)
Erotomania
Improv
Lines In The Sand
Encore: ACOS
Night B:
Metropolis
Lie (single version)
Peruvian Skies
Improv
Only A Matter of Time
Anna Lee
Improv
Trial Of Tears
Wait For Sleep/Learning To Live
Encore:
Scarred
Nightmare Cinema doing Burning My Soul (If possible)
I swear I'd attend every show within 1,500 miles and would try to get
tapes of every show of the tour if that were the case! This is why
Phish has such a dedicated and GROWING following. No two shows are
*ever* the same and no one knows what the hell to expect on a given
night (except a great show).
I know DT has this in them. They do put on an excellent show. They are
the masters at changing little sections of their songs (UAGM has a few
bars in it now with a shuffle feel) and linking the songs together. And
why are they so shy about improv lately? Who knows... hopefully we can
get another Bombay Vindaloo out of them someday.
I think I'll ask Mr. Portnoy how he feels about this kind of stuff after
the Boston gig tomorrow (well... technically it's today). He definately
seems to be one of the more liberal members of the band in the sense
that he'll do anything to make the show fun. *Hopefully* I'll get to
speak with him that is!
Sorry for taking up so much space. I don't post all that often--only
when I feel reall strongly about a thread. I'm curious to see how
others feel about this...
Jon Dery
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