YTSEJAM Digest 3356
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Voltron
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
2) Meanstreak
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
3) Covers
by "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
4) YNM debate
by Chad Mitchell <kerensky@telepath.com>
5) Yankees...(non DT content!)
by Chad Mitchell <kerensky@telepath.com>
6) Whereabouts of DT members....
by Bruce Dickinson <0_mnedell@FAIR1.FAIRFIELD.EDU>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3352
by Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
8) Ytsejam cover version
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
9) NEVERENDING DREAMS, 5 SHOWS IN A ROW IN EUROPE (LONG!!!!!) PART 1 (fwd)
by Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch>
10) re: DT and the Future
by Brian Hansen <bhansen1@leland.Stanford.EDU>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3352
by MD Polaris <MDPolaris@aol.com>
12) FW show attendance
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
13) Re: STOP THAT!!!!
by eckie@asu.edu
14) Re: From the pits
by eckie@asu.edu
15) Re: Guitar War
by eckie@asu.edu
16) Smack my Bitch Up!
by Scott <skooc@earthlink.net>
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:43:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Voltron
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971212103815.6646A-100000@otter.mbay.net>
All right you bunch of pussies who like the lions. The lions suck!!!! Do
you hear me? They suck!!! What kind of a real fucking robot would have
little pussy lion heads as hands and feet? Everyone who's anyone knows
that air team, land team, and sea team are the way to go! Shit, they even
turn into three cool separate stacked vehicles. And the people were just
cooler. They need to replace that sirupy-assed princess of the blue lion
with someone like Sigourni Weaver or that chick from Terminater. There's
a real battlin' babe! And Jeff was that much cooler than Lance, too. You
people just go play with your lions. Little boys play with little toys
while us big boys will play with real toys. That goes for you kick-ass
tom-girls, too. Which reminds me, did anyone have that kid-sister who
always got one transformer or one go-bot- or one he-man figure, just so
she'd be cooler? They just don't make cool chick toys. Something must be
done!!! Be well.
Matt B
"That is the truth. Not the hammer and sickle; not the stars and stripes;
not the cross; not the sun; not gold; not yin and yang, but the smile...
Because they died, we know we still live. Because a star explodes and a
thousand worlds like ours die, we know this world is. That is the smile,
that what might not be is." (John Fowles, The Magus)
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:46:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Meanstreak
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.96.971212134308.34244A-100000@acs6.bu.edu>
I stumbled across this URL a bit ago:
http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bruss/Metal/groups/Mean.html
When I saw them open for DT years ago, Marlene was playing bass and there
was only one guitar player, Jmuthafuckin'P's wife Rena. :) Didn't Kevin
Moore (or John Myung, maybe) thank Lisa Martens Pace in the liner notes of
Awake?
Wacky out
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:16:07 -0400
From: "Charlie Korch"<ckorch@raleigh.ibm.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Covers
Message-ID: <8525656B.0069AA4A.00@ATLMAIL.IBMUS2.IBM.COM>
>>I can agree with the fact that you would like to see more of DT's
songs live but common, some of the covers they do are just too
incredible. As far as I'm concerned they could play just about any
cover in their 'style' and I'd stand there amazed while they did it.<<
Sorry that I didn't make my point clearer. I don't mind DT doing
covers............I mind "Nightmare Cinema" doing covers. I go to
concerts to be blown away, not to laugh. If I wanted to laugh I would go
see GWAR. :o)
Charlie
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:50:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Chad Mitchell <kerensky@telepath.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YNM debate
Message-ID: <199712121950.NAA15857@telepath.com>
>From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
>Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3346
>Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.95.971211000418.13233A-100000@vectorbd.vectorbd.com>
>
>I feel that I need to disagree with Kelly about the lyrics to You Not Me.....
I happen to agree with Bert. Moreover, I don't feel that this song is
musically "crap" either. I find the song quite moving, the chord structure
simple but tasty. Sure, it isn't as complex as "Metropolis" or some other
DT classics, but I happen to like a little variety.
Besides, YNM would make an excellent single, for the same reasons that PMU
and BMS are, i.e., they can attract the attention of your average rock
statioin listener and get them interested. There are unfortunately a ton of
folk out there to whom Ozzy Osbourne and Ratt are "good music". It takes
simpler stuff to penetrate the skulls of these troglodytes. How many of us
found DT after hearing PMU on the radio? I did. I distincly remember
hearing it a couple of times and thinking, you know, this isn't half bad.
Then of course, after buying it and listening to the rest of I&W, I was
floored! If continuing to produce one or twosongs such as these per album
can drag in more fans, then their purpose is fulfilled.
(reaches in closet for asbestos suit)
Chad Mitchell
Owner/GM - Oklahoma Outlaws
"Doctors get to bury their mistakes, Architects can only advise their client
to plant vines."
-Frank Lloyd Wright
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:50:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Chad Mitchell <kerensky@telepath.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Yankees...(non DT content!)
Message-ID: <199712121950.NAA15869@telepath.com>
>>Btw, I am not a member of
>>any NY baseball team, so I really don't understand why you are
>>calling me a Yankee. :-)
>
>Well it's really simple mate, a 'yankee' or 'yank'is am American.
Son, I'm from the South. Call *me* a "Yankee", and ah'll hafta take ye out
behahnd tha woodshed and teach ya some manners. ;)
Chad Mitchell
Owner/GM - Oklahoma Outlaws
"Doctors get to bury their mistakes, Architects can only advise their client
to plant vines."
-Frank Lloyd Wright
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:56:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bruce Dickinson <0_mnedell@FAIR1.FAIRFIELD.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Whereabouts of DT members....
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.971212145422.96455C-100000@FAIR1.FAIRFIELD.EDU>
.....it is a fact that John Petrucci does not reside in New Jersey. I
do not want to disclose where he lives because I know he does not want to
be pestered by rude, obnoxious people. I am not indicating that any of
you are, but you know the type of person I am speaking about. OK, later
guys.
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Matthew G. Nedell
0_mnedell@fair1.fairfield.edu
1-203-256-6222
"If it's not in 2.35, I'm not watching it."
Words to live by as proclaimed by James LaBrie-
"I won't give up till I've no more to give, NO MORE TO GIVE!"
"I said, 'I love you........................good-bye'"
"So speak................I'm right here!"
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:39:57 EST
From: Thrak75 <Thrak75@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3352
Message-ID: <d6f39555.34919311@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/12/97 2:31:11, you wrote:
>By no means am I trying to say that Petrucci didn't put any thought into
>these lyrics or that he doesn't have something he's trying to say. I'm
>quite sure that's not true in this case. I'm just saying I wouldn't try to
>attribute any gifted insights into the lyrics of anyone's music even if
>they are my all-time favorite band. After all, it's a business. Bands
>have schedules, contracts, media pressures, etc. that can sometimes effect
>what they produce.
this comment may depict the most interesting and probably most fair or
accurate assessment of dream theater lyrics.
ytsegoon
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david y. kobayashi
the new york law school
thrak75@aol.com
dkobayashi@nyls.edu
"i'm the monster you created in your daddy's name." - j. petrucci
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 21:11:03 -0800
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ytsejam cover version
Message-ID: <349218E7.4DB2@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
Has anybody heared a band called "MADSWORD" from Italy ?
They have coverd "YTSEJAM" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Their version is a lot heavier and without keyboards. I think it's not bad.
Anyone else has heard this cover version ?
Btw, some people have problems with my weekly top 10 albums. Why ?
I mean, some people mailed what they have dreamed last night and nobody has
something against it, which is absolutely ok. Any my top 10 ?
I think it's a good idea to show others, what I've heard last week.
Maybe they are some artists they don't know, so maybe they will get in to them.
Like Royal Hunt !
Arash
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 21:47:46 +0100 (CET)
From: Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch>
To: MakTs <MakTs@compuserve.com>, Vito Staedler <vito.staedler@alcatel.ch>,
Subject: NEVERENDING DREAMS, 5 SHOWS IN A ROW IN EUROPE (LONG!!!!!) PART 1 (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971212214303.20341B-100000@goblin.studi.unizh.ch>
Hi Jammers,
I'm a 23 years old Jammer from Switzerland and just got back from one of
the most thrilling adventures in my entire life.
I'm kinda dissapointed from the European Jammers. I thought there would be
more reviews on the jam, this doesn't include people from the UK. For
everyone interested, I will add setlists of three shows at the end of my
story.
I've started of preparing the trip about 5 weeks before the onset of the
tour: get tickets to every show = find people who buy them for me, get
accomodation and information about the concertplaces, find the cheapest
train ticket.
Travel day 1
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The adventure begins with a tiring 10 hour trip, 8 of which on the same
spot in the same train, to Holland. I don't want to attend the show in
Offenbach, Germany, because of the local policy in selling merchandise.
The band's merchandiser is not allowed to sell, instead he's replaced by
local hands and the hall official raises a 20% sales tax!!!
Instead I visit John WGMTT (who got me the ticket).
We spend very entertaining hours throwing (prog) band names at each other,
discussing the Jam (quote John:'those 25 people mailing and the other 800
watching'), doing the Quiz (Max Arbot's homepage, more about it later) and
preparing mentally for the gig with bootlegs and the Japan video.
Travel day 2
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John, his friend Robert and I reach after minor problems (a complete empty
car battery, onset of rush hour) Den Bosch where they become aware of
something missing: Their tickets!
They drop me at the hotel and call up the hall which apparently is sold
out. Back they go. At least 3 hours to drive and two hours till Vanden
Plas start.
I give Dave a ring, a local fan from Den Bosch, who
offers to pick me up at the hotel. He just arrives when I get a call from
Matt, Pensylvania. He'd decided about 2 weeks before the leave to join me,
even though he's not that much of a DT fan. (compare to Ties' report from
dec. 9th)
Dave is grateful and also picks up Matt from the station who's been awake
some 30 (!) hours by that time. After a snack we finally get to the hall
were I manage to smuggle in my camera for the 1st time. (I have to say
that it's a pretty big SLR camera, with a 28-80 mm and a 70-210mm zoom
objcectiv equipped!)
Den Bosch
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I meet jammer Laurens and am stared at like the 8th miracle of the
Antique by his friends. 'You're from Switzerland?!' untill I introduce
Matt.
Laurens told me that his sister
Sound: quite loud, first thing I notice, brilliant, second impression.
Fortunately James is quite healthy, I've already been afraid by the cold
he's had at the onset of the US dates.
Crowd: pretty loud shouting, kinda hard to get in the front row.
Extras: I have to revise my image of the smoking Dutch. There are more
weed-warshippers in Switzerland than in Holland!!!!
I smoke with two guys who than lift me upon their shoulders and
carry me along the stage while shouting 'Take pictures!'
Hall: It is a sports hall, with a balcony around the whole of the
interior. One gets actually to sit behind the stagefront and to
watch the guys from the side and from behind.
The capacity is, I've been told, 4000 people, allowed 2800.
After the show: Matt goes to sleep. I pick up a bootleg sweatshirt. I
know, it's not the fairest behaviour towards the band, but this one is
really nice: grey hood, grey inserts in the sleves, flaming heart and FII
pic displayed, and I haven't seen sold at any shows after.
Dave, his folks and I amuse us listening to the 'Dream Out Loud' bootleg,
probably James at his worst, (Sorry James, but I can't deny it at least
some entertaining qualities.) while starting yet another homepage.
Travel day 3
------------
Never let an American use a European shower without expaining it to him.
(Might lead to another flood.)
Matt and I get to Bonn with some delay. Someone has commited suicide,
abusing a train and now the train is concealed by states authorities;
can't have been a dissapointed DT-fan, though.
At the hall, we meet Michael (who's got 72 DT-CDs at home, does anyone
still call me mad with my photography-obsession?) and one of these 25
people on the Jam: Arash, WGMTT. (Jez, what a cutie!)
I've asked the night before what the name of the tour manager is and the
second person I'm aproaching happens to be him. I explain with my sweetest
voice that I'm from Switzerland, doing 4 shows (I show the tickets for
proof) and my friend is even from the US! (not necessary to mention that
he's already getting fed up with DT-shows...) I ask about a chance to meet
'The Band' personally and am told that there would be two aftershow passes
at the entrance.
CHRISTMAS AND MY BIRTHDAY ON THE SAME DAY, especially because there really
are two passes!!!
Bonn
---- I walk in (with company: my camera) and get trough to the front row. The local security threaten me already after the 2nd song of Vandan Plas to either take my camera or give the film. The last time I take pics from the front row, stupid me. Actually they are quite nice guys. They entertain us about their stressing jobs at 'Spice Girls' and 'Boy Groups' concerts with rows of girls passing out and in the end I get even the film back. Sound: Crisp, good quality. Since I concentrate this night on the band, I finally realize the swift and very slight changes DT make on their songs, besides of changing the running order every night even if it includes the same songs. Play a tact twice instead of once, the guitar going up instead of down for two seconds, an additional layer of keyboard, a minute of very simple bass-drum rythm and an improvised guitar across, and just TIGHT, NO HOLE IN THE SOUND ! Crowd: Easy, very comfortable to stand, enough air, half the hall singing along! Extras: I scream all the lyrics with two girls next to me. We point out Dereks posing and once start shouting 'Derek' which enlightens his face with yet another smile. Arash just stares in astonishment at the band. DT put parts of the Mirror and an old Rainbow song into the Ytsejam and the extra, Metropolis, ends with drums still being played but Mike already calsping peoples hads: roadie-support. Hall: It looks rather like a club than like a sports hall, my guess is close to 2000 people. The hall is part of a huge complex, which also includes a public work out area, bureau rooms, working facilities... Aftershow Matt and I am waiting for the dudes to appear. First is Derek who walkes straight up to a table with two blond girls and starts conversation. I give him the choccolate which I bring along to most of the concerts I attend, after all I'm from Switzerland and I've never had anybody turn this present down.Sorry to interrupt, but the working room at the University closes now and I gotta leave.
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:02:26 -0800 From: Brian Hansen <bhansen1@leland.Stanford.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: DT and the Future Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971212130226.006aa728@bhansen1.pobox.stanford.edu>
Good Post Bruce.
> From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net> > >I was just thinking the way to work today about DT's future (you do >things like this during an hour drive). Now, I'm almost sure that Mike >has said that the direction the band is going in is the way THEY want to >go. I kind of question this.
You have to remember that "THEY" are a band. The individuals may want to go different directions. So when we hear one member talk, they probably aren't talking for the whole band. (Kevin Moore obviously wanted to go in a different direction.) What we hear when the recording is done is probably some sort of compromise. (O.K. We can do the Journey-style chorus, but it has to be 12 minutes long with 15 time changes. Oh yeah, we have to have one radio song too.)
> From Rush to > Metallica to Queensryche and so on.
I agree, I think that DT is starting to follow the pattern, whatever that is.
>What I think bands like Dream Theater and the like should do is, forget >what is going on in the 'commercial world', but do what you want and TRY .. >Why doesn't DT try to step up and do what they stand for, instead of >making their music 'more accessible'. I say BULL SHIT! Americans
Once again, I agree. It's always a red flag to me when a band (or band member), starts to talk about trying to mold themselves to fit some market. Or are trying to be like this or that.
On the other hand, a good sign for me is when a band says that they just started coming up with some incredible ideas and rolled from there. No thought to market positioning or accessibility. They just put out their music and say to the world, check this out!
But then again, as others have said, in the real world you can be a starving artist, or you can try to make some money. Metallica may have lost their edge and their artistic integrity, but I bet they're rolling in the dough! Plus my guess is that the music is a lot easier to write than something like MoP or AJFA. Being a starving artist starts to lose it's appeal when you get older, married and have kids.
hasta, BH
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:53:24 EST From: MD Polaris <MDPolaris@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3352 Message-ID: <37ffa683.3491a4f0@aol.com>
In a message dated 97-12-12 07:02:33 EST, you write:
<< > What does it say that Def Leppard's drummer uses one hand less then he used > to, and it's not enough of a difference that they need to fire him? You know, I like Def Leppard's 80's stuff, but I recently heard some of their early work (when they were part of "the new wave of british heavy metal") and man, they freakin' rocked. Fast, heavy, cool. -Brian >> their first album, On Through the Night, is incredible...it's fast, heavy, and raw...if you like Def Leppard at all you sould give the album a listen...unfortunately their last album, SLANG sucks...it's basically alternative...but i like the rest of them. Mike
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:31:29 -0500 From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FW show attendance Message-ID: <v01530501b0b75d6ada80@[209.50.100.151]>
>>APSOG is a pretty quiet, contemplative song at times, and >>it could be absolutely ruined by a bunch of people making a lot of noise >>during the quiet parts. How's the noise level been so far?
Quiet. We just stood there with our jaws on the floor.
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:29:52 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: STOP THAT!!!! Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.971212142419.23907C-100000@general3.asu.edu>
> I wish DT stopped playing covers, and would treat us to one more great DT > song. Remember, every goofy Nightmare Cinema spoof is one less Scarred we > get to see. C'Mon DT, play Scarred!!!!!
Nah, I disagree here, it's a show I'm going to see. It'd be MUCH more entertaining to experience the Nightmare Cinema act and doing a cover tune here or there than DT just do DT. Granted, I'd love to hear as much DT live as possible (hence, my bootleg collection) but the dudes need to have some sort of fun! heh heh
Why don't they just extend their act? Hell, Fates Warning played the Mason Jar, here in Phoenix until 1:30 in the morning. It pissed off the owner, but the crowd LOVED every minute of it. ('sides, the owner wasn't into the music at all, and he's an asshole too)
~Eckie, still waiting for an AZ date to pop up in the DT tour schedule
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:33:29 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: From the pits Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.971212143028.23907D-100000@general3.asu.edu>
> "Uh, if it's so lame...why is it selling out so fast?" > > -that is not a very good defense. Look at what else sells.
Yeah, but it works in reverse logic from the other "stuff" that sells. You see, stuff that truly sucks, like Bjork, Spice Girls, and Puff Daddy, Missy Elliot etc., will sell millions. Stuff that kicks ass but is said to be sucky won't sell anything at all. See what I'm sayin'? >;) ~Eckie and his fucked up logic
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:34:51 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Guitar War Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.971212143353.23907E-100000@general3.asu.edu>
Yeah, it's me again,
On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, ProgRckBoy wrote: > I'm the same. It seems that if you write something that sounds good clean, > you can arrange the parts to add a distorted guitar... but if you write > things dirty, then you have a lot of cleaning to do. And you don't need an > amp for an acoustic.
I HIGHLY doubt Mirror/Lie was written on an accoustic!
~Won't Eckie stop posting?!
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:36:11 -0800 (PST) From: Scott <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Smack my Bitch Up! Message-ID: <199712122136.NAA27784@norway.it.earthlink.net>
>If Rush has "cycled toward commercialism", then why is it that the much >of the Rush I hear is from 1982 (ie: Signals) and earlier? Wouldn't their >newer material get more airplay if it was more commercial? Aside from the >occasional "Test For Echo" (when the album was first released) and the >_one_ time I heard "Ghost of a Chance," where is this fabled >commercialism? Progressive rock doesn't (just) mean 20 minute songs about >otherwordly forces (2112) and allegorical quests for meaning (The >Fountain of Lamneth). I firmly believe that Rush is writing and playing >the kind of music that they want to write.
And if you can listen to anything Rush put out AFTER Hemispheres and say they didn't go commercial then you're either not paying attention or have an IQ of a turnip! They went from writing some of the greatest rock songs of all time, prog or not, to becoming a Human League/Eurythmics clone in the 80's. That shit from Signals all the way through Hold Your Fire is all synth pop. I'm not saying it's all bad, but most of it sucks (sorry Merlo, it had to be said ;-) ). It wasn't until Presto that they started getting back more towards guitar oriented music and stopped trying to get airplay in the discos.
>I've got a pantheon of animals in a pagan soul >Vishnu and Gaia - Aztec and Maya >Dance around my totem pole > >That's commercial? I think that's quite far removed from "So....tell me >what you want what you really really want."
Lyrics aren't what make a song commercially viable, it's the beat. If you can dance to it and have a marketable look then you can have your :15.
>I have this idea.....I know it has probably been thought of before but it >would be cool. DT should remix WDaDU and have the vibrant James LaBrie >perform the vocals. I am almost positive the members of DT would not be >up for it but it sure would be cool. I guess a live bootleg could be made >up of the songs in the order of WDaDU. Hey, if anyone else is with me >please let me know.
Not a bad idea but LaBrie's fucking ego gets in the way. This guy is one of the biggest assholes in rock and roll and when I heard how he intimidated a jammer one time for wearing a ytsejam shirt (this was before James understood what this whole list thing was) I lost all respect for the bunghole. It's one thing to try to stop bootleggers from profiting on your name, but to have a woman talk you into coming to meet James and when he does he starts threatening you for the shirt you're wearing tha shows me the guy has no class.
Why do you think they don't play WDADU songs in concert anymore (except for Ytsejam)? It's because James is such a fucking baby he can't handle singing songs from another singer.
Now excuse me while I go smack my bitch up.
Scott
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