YTSEJAM Digest 3397
Today's Topics:
1) THAT time of THAT that morning
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
2) MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
by Steve <steve@dial.pipex.com>
3) re: IMPORTANT NEWS!!!! New 'Impact' CD <DTC>/New Paul Gilbert CD
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
4) Visions tracks 1 & 2 backwards ???
by Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au>
5) X-mas CD-Delay
by "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
6) Xmas message
by "Brian P. Kelley" <bpkelley@mindspring.com>
7)
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
8) Something for all
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
9) make yourself a household name....
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
10) Re: Angraween
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
11) Re: X-mas CD-Delay
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
12) Amorphis, Isle Of Joy bootleg...
by Rip Von Rytinki <opk@hlti.fi>
13) fan club cd
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
14) Re: 1997
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
15) angra sounds like helloween?
by "Partha S. Mukhopadhyay" <pmukhop@med.wayne.edu>
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 03:33:17 -0800
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: THAT time of THAT that morning
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-971225113317Z-4932@ms.Kallback.com>
>It's.....well, gee, how 'bout that, it's about 6:00 on a Christmas
morning.
Well it's only 3 in the morning here, so shut the hell up.
You must realize that all of us are in different time zones.
How many more dorks are going to post this?
Chill out! I'm totally kidding, here.
I posted the same thing last year. :)
If you are celebrating a holiday around this time of year,
make it a good one,
Trevor
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 11:52:04 +0000
From: Steve <steve@dial.pipex.com>
To: The Gimp <AMOS@groggimp.demon.co.uk>, Brick rage <BrickRage@aol.com>,
Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19971225115204.00963400@pop.dial.pipex.com>
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 13:31:46 -0800
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: IMPORTANT NEWS!!!! New 'Impact' CD <DTC>/New Paul Gilbert CD
Message-ID: <34A2D0C2.288A@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
>There's also a new Magna Carta CD called 'Impact' that will be released
>soon. This project was conceived by Trent and Wayne Gardner from
>Magellan. There playing is throughout the CD in addition
>to the following players. The songs are structured and arranged very well.
>Its not 100% done yet.
>Vocals: James LaBrie (Dream Theater)
Matt Bradley (Chaos Theory)
D.C. Cooper (Royal Hunt)
>Keyboards: Matt Guillory (Chaos Theory)
>Guitar: John Petrucci (Dream Theater)
>Bass: Billy Sheehan (Mr. Big)
>Drums: Terry Bozzio (Missing Persons/BLS)
>Very scarry stuff!!! Terry Bozzio is phenominal!!! Well, everybody is!!!
>Another Must Have CD in addition to Liquid Tension Project!!
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Yes. As far as I know, Derek will play Keyboards too.
Carl Cadden James (the mastermind from Shadow Gallery) will be the producer.
Some kind of Dream Theam !!! It will be great.
The CD should be out in March.
Arash
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 22:36:07 +1000
From: Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Visions tracks 1 & 2 backwards ???
Message-ID: <34A25337.5571@winshop.com.au>
Just a quick NDTC query...
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before on the Jam, but after
purchasing my copy of Visions by Stratovarius, I have noticed that
tracks 1 and 2 (Black Diamond & Kiss Of Judas) are printed in incorrect
order in the CD sleeve and back of the CD cover.
Is this a standard misprint or was I the only unfortunate individual ?
Thanks,
Luke.
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 14:24:46 +0100
From: "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: X-mas CD-Delay
Message-ID: <01bd1138$78301620$566312c3@gjjhgjhg>
>As it is a fan club cd there is no 'official release', no I haven't got my
>copy and I am pissed off about it and the fact the that us FC members
>have not been informed about the delay
Hello Graham.
Why are you pissed off 'bout something that you get for FREE ?
There were some things that hold up the production of this years' X-mas cd.
Like: the last European Tour and some problems with the BUMA STEMRA
(copyright organization in Holland) You don't know how much sleepless nights
this cd have costed us at ALL the official Fanclubs. Do you really think
that (in think in your case) Neil Elliott sents out an mailing per post to
inform all his subscribers that the FREE X-mas cd will be a little late.
Man, you really don't have a clue !
Anyway the cd's are pressed and well. So i think that you can expect your
copie (altough al littler later) pretty soon.
Denis Schoen
TOD The Official Dutch Dream Theater FC
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 10:10:12 -0500
From: "Brian P. Kelley" <bpkelley@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Xmas message
Message-ID: <199712251405.JAA07262@brickbat8.mindspring.com>
I know this has been rubbed into the ground many times in the past, but I
have to do it...
Had my Awake CD handy for when my alarm went off to play...(yep, you guessed it)
6:00 ON A CHRISTMAS MORNING!!!
6:00 ON A CHRISTMAS MORNING!!!
6:00 ON A CHRISTMAS MORNING!!!
6:00 ON A CHRISTMAS MORNING!!!
Would've had a more profound effect if I HAD awaken at 6:00, apparently I
didn't set the alarm and woke up at 8:30 (d'ohhhhhh!!! :) Oh well, have to
try it again next year...
Merry Christmas to all the Jammers worldwide :)
Brian
PS Any fellow Atlantans still interested in the trip to Jaxx, PLEASE let me
know. Tickets will be gone soon, if not already!
PPS Hopefully I was a good boy this year and got the Yes: Keys To Ascension
Vol. I and the new Enchant under the tree :)
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 10:40:04 -0500
From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971225154004.006b7f2c@pop.pipeline.com>
The Doc started a good thread.
This year I saw:
3 Fates/Divine Regale
1 Savatage
1 Bruce Dickinson
1 DT (almost 2, as the Fix for 96 shows were about a year ago)
1 Powermad - 3 days (Quiet Room, Soundscape, etc.)
8 or 9 Division ;-)
1 Overkill
It was a good year for Prog Metal. Maybe I even forgot a few shows...
was Yngwie last winter? Time flies...
Green Bay Packers - The Quest to Repeat - Detroit Red Wings
13-3 22-9-7
vs ??? vs Toronto Maple Leafs
Kevin
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 12:26:51 -0500
From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Something for all
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971225122651.0068e6e8@ee.net>
>what do you think was on DT's mind when they wrote metropolis, how they're
gonna
>focus on bringing through the story, or how they're gonna show off with
the middle
>section (no flames required, thank you very much ;)?
No flames here man...
I think what was on their mind was creating a peice that they knew
was solid both from a lyrical and compositional standpoint. I have serious
doubts that they were standing around going "wow, this instrumental
is really gonna blow Seroussi away!". I do believe that the meaning of
the song was just as important to them as the musical masterpiece itself.
Why would they sacrifice the quality of one for the other? The story
behind Metropolis is not just some chicken scratch they came up with
to keep James busy, it has a strong meaning.
The guys are focused on creating songs that they feel strongly about,
not worrying about what people are going to be ore impressed with. Don't
kid yourself into thinking it's an ego thing with the instrumentals and
that lyrics are just there to take up space. If that were the case than
the lyrics would be repetitive rather than lengthy. They're there because
they make the song whole and the lyrics/music compliment each other, while
helping the listener bring themselves to the meaning of it.
>My point is, it seems like they don't put as much thought into the lyrics
as they
>put into the music; the focus of their songs is on the music, not on the
message.
>yes, the lyrics might be moving and thoughtful, but they're not the most
important
>thing about the song...
I'm not flaming this guys post at all, in fact I think it's cool
that he brought this up even though I disagree with him.
Ya see, I'm one of those fans that think DT's lyrics on most
of the songs are just important and as thoughtful as the music
itself, but the post quoted above just goes to show you how much
DT really can appeal to anyones personal preference. I can't blame
the guy for getting more out of the music than he does the lyrics,
the important part is that he is a fan.
So, I have to politely disagree with him and just say that "hey bud,
maybe you just aren't getting the message" :) I personally think their
lyrics are incredible and that they represent a definite mindset and
some deep concepts and points of view on the human subconcious and
emotion. But by the same token, I understand that not everyone picks
up on the message, but they may still love the music.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hannakuh (sp?), Happy Quansa, and...
PARTY ON WAYNE! :)
buster
http://users1.ee.net/buster/
http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 12:38:37 -0500
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: make yourself a household name....
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971225123835.0068d240@mail.ici.net>
>People will be turning their
>backs on Kurt Cobain and Shannon Hoon for something new. When people are
>still listening to JLMB and they have no idea who KC and SH are, the songs
>prophecy will have come true.
Interesting idea...a song that *is* a self-fufilling prophecy. If the song
fails to become a DT standard, then in essence, it has still succeeded by
becoming an example of what the song is about!
And people think the lyrics don't mean anything. :)
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 21:19:16 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Angraween
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971225211814.11163A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Charlie Korch wrote:
[Angra and Helloween]
> I thought the same thing when I first heard them. But after listening to
> them a little bit more, I now think that they sound even MORE like
> Helloween.
> I think that they are a very good band, but I don't know if I would call
> them Progressive Metal. Maybe power metal or something like that.
Now someone saw the light :-) and repeated what I said some months
ago. :-)
Merry XMas to you all, Roger...
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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 10:24:48 +1100 From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: X-mas CD-Delay Message-ID: <199712252328.KAA18334@armstrong.apic.net>
> Do you really think > that (in think in your case) Neil Elliott sents out an mailing per post to > inform all his subscribers that the FREE X-mas cd will be a little late. > Man, you really don't have a clue !
Oh yes I do more than you. No he could posted a message to the #ytsejam mailing list telling everyone of the delay or got it put up on one of the DT web sites the one run by Mark Bredius, "Under A Cyber Moon'. How hard is this, or you could have done the same thing instead of trying to rub my face in it. > Anyway the cd's are pressed and well. So i think that you can expect your > copie (altough al littler later) pretty soon.
Why didn't you tell us this earlier ?
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 01:45:22 +0300 From: Rip Von Rytinki <opk@hlti.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Amorphis, Isle Of Joy bootleg... Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19960827014522.00921760@hotmail.com>
**This is the second time this appears in jam, a very little marketing has been done elsewhere, we want to make sure that every amo-fan here gets their own copy***
Greetings...
We, TripleX records bring you our first release: Amorphis : Isle Of Joy
If you like Amorphis, you really shouldn't miss this one.... Act fast since only 50 of these will be made
We don't want to waste bandwidth so for further information go to our page http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dungeon/4371/ and see the info.
The price per CD is $15 + $2 for postage. Mail us to get exact payment info.
Happy Jammin'
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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 10:44:11 +1100 From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Cc: <images_and_words@compuserve.com> Subject: fan club cd Message-ID: <199712252347.KAA18961@armstrong.apic.net>
My apologies to Neil Elliott if it seemed like I was having a 'dig' at him I wasn't. As most of you know I am a strong supporter of the Fan Club and Neil.
graham
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 20:40:28 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: 1997 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19971225204027.006cbd98@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 02:34 AM 12/25/97 -0800, Dr. Moshie-Poo wrote: >4 Fates shows >3 DT shows >2 Enchant shows >Marillion at the Coach House
...and a partridge in a pear tree.
;)~
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 01:37:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Partha S. Mukhopadhyay" <pmukhop@med.wayne.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: angra sounds like helloween? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971226013530.23560B-100000@moose>
i might agree with that. the first thought i had upon hearing mr. matos' voice in the context of angra's music was ,"wow, this guy/band sound really.....GERMAN."
anyway
partha
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