YTSEJAM Digest 2241
Today's Topics:
1) DT Videos, Power Of Omens Drummer
by Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@CompuServe.COM>
2) The Prog of '97
by "Brian Henderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com>
3) 2 More To Avoid
by "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
4) fffffttt on Warner Bros Moosic, DT families?
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
5) drum head death/ Chromakey?
by fba25110@centum.utulsa.edu (bruce forst)
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2237
by Rpupkin514@aol.com
7) Talked to Dave...NEWS! (NDTC)
by Scott <skooc@earthlink.net>
8) Re: prog 97
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
9) Phish/new releases
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2240\30 yrs say we're in this together..
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
11) Phish, Jazz' singing voice, other random crap
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
12) Re: Talked to Dave...NEWS! (NDTC)
by eckie@asu.edu
13) new releases in '97 and some new stuff
by Jan van Huizen <aurora@wirehub.nl>
14) IRC Chat
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2240
by Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com>
16) Quick Star Wars plug!
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Date: 01 Feb 97 01:00:04 EST
From: Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@CompuServe.COM>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT Videos, Power Of Omens Drummer
Message-ID: <970201060003_72064.614_GHB5-5@CompuServe.COM>
You can download a QT Video Clip of the LIE Video from the Electra WWW Site.
You can find the link at any of the DT Web pages (Well, almost any of them).
Regarding Power Of Omens, I read in Modern Drummer (No, I dont drum, I was
looking for info on the new DT album), that the Drummer in POO, has been taking
lessons from Mark Zonder of Fates Warning. Just thought you would like to know
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:17:55 -0500
From: "Brian Henderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Prog of '97
Message-ID: <199702010748.CAA03863@darkstar.icdc.com>
Rush is supposed to put out a live album next, right? Is it possible this
will come out in '97?
Makes one think, dunnit?
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap
robert.henderson@icdc.com
"That's the kind of thing that makes you go boy-oy-oy... Well, it does for
me." -- A. Richter
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:39:17 +0000
From: "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 2 More To Avoid
Message-ID: <199702012239.0140900@no1.com.au>
Two more on line CD stores to stay away from are:
CD Europe
http://www.cdeurope.com
Hold no stock and are rude, arrogant and expensive, plus they don't let you know the
final cost of your order, you find out when you get your credit card statement.
CD Teleshop
http://www.cdteleshop.com
Same again, hold no stock, do not answer your e-mail, I only got a reply after yelling
into their answering machine, and more than a month after I placed my order I still have
not received anything.
I can highly recommend both CD Now and CD Universe, both are fast, reliable and friendly.
Cheers
Graham
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 97 00:45:31 -0600
From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: fffffttt on Warner Bros Moosic, DT families?
Message-ID: <32f2e68a4ac4002@cliff.ou.edu>
I got the Images and Words songbook from WB yesterday. I was following
along with the disk and noticed HEY THERE IS A TOTAL LACK OF KEYBOARD SOLOS
IN HERE! WTF????
Anyone know where I could grab just the keys? Don't want guitar tabs!
A word of amusement -- I think they just ran the vocal track through midi --
no way would any sane person actually WRITE in all those grace notes.
Also, I seem to remember reading some time ago that John Petrucci and his
wife (Roxane? I forgot her name) had just (at the time) had twins. Anyone
know about the band's families? Myung is just a little older than me (isn't
he the youngest?) -- and they're all hitched... Was wondering if little
bitty jammers might be causing the uh hold up in production here and might
possibly make a difference in travelling distance. Like are they going to
tour Oklahoma City or what?? These fellas seem the sort who would stay home
with their sweeties & new babies rather than run around the world on tour.
They're so... rated G... DT is about the only rock band I'd let my children
listen to. Actually they're a captive audience, come to think of it.
"Okay, Wednesday, now watch this guy here playing the piano. Now listen to
this Mozart record. This is called 'classical music'."
Jazzmin
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:03:31 -0600
From: fba25110@centum.utulsa.edu (bruce forst)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: drum head death/ Chromakey?
Message-ID: <199702010703.BAA14053@utulsa.edu>
> 2. Take the duct tape and tape the tissues to the
>bottom of the head.
.. and kill every ounce of the drum head's natural resonance. Why would we
want to do something like that?!
I mean some people like dead sounding drums but not me personally. Just take
a little time and learn to tune those bad boys. Just my humble dissenting
opinion.
A cd I'm looking forward to is the Chromakey cd. I thought it was coming out
soon but when I check the news on the page it say its contains no data. So
what's the deal?
bruce
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 02:22:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Rpupkin514@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2237
Message-ID: <970201022200_275417046@emout09.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-01-30 07:03:00 EST, you write:
<< I received permission from Mike to do Subconscious, Acoustic Dreams and
now Antiquities and my intent is not to compete with him >>
You think you have to get PERMISSION to bootleg a bootlegger?!?!
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:22:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott <skooc@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Talked to Dave...NEWS! (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199702010722.XAA01031@iberia.it.earthlink.net>
Got this from a friend of mine. I know we have 'Deth fans here so here ya go!
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:01:55 -0800 (PST)
>From: ratlhead <ratlhead@fingers.shocking.com>
>Reply-To: megadeth@anthrax.ecst.csuchico.edu
>To: Multiple recipients of list <megadeth@anthrax.ecst.csuchico.edu>
>Subject: [MEGADETH:10802] Talked to Dave...NEWS!
>
>Ok Guys...
> Talked to Mustaine tonight on the phone...Lots of news!
> First, the new album is done...at least with the band. It's going to go
>get mastered/manufactured on Monday...and then all we have to do is wait!
>There's still no official release date...I forgot to ask about the album cover.
> Here's the Offical track list...notice the name changes!
>
>1) The Disintegrators (was Atomic Destruction)
>2) Mastermind
>3) Have Cool, Will Travel
>4) Vortex
>5) Sin (was The Evil Within)
>6) Trust
>7) Almost Honest
>8) Use the Man
>9) I'll Get Even
>10) FFF
>11) One Thing
>12) She-Wolf
>13) A Secret Place
>
> Smoking Gun was never finished and won't make the CD. Another thing...one
>of these songs, which is undecided, will only appear on the European/Japanese
>version. Reason for this...they're releasing what they're paid for here in
>the States. Over there...it's not that they're paid more, but they can rent
>CDs...so this may be more incentive for the renters to buy it. Kinda cheesy,
>so I'll have to get both I guess....or the unreleased US track could be on a
>single.
> As for the music...he says there's 4 radio friendly songs, 4 'heavy as fuck'
>Megadeth songs and 4 kinda "crossover/metal/radio" songs...
> Didn't ask about a tour....shit
> He said he was reading the Megadeth newsgroup last night...he was messing
>around on the Internet...and he was kinda disturbed at some of the shit people
>are saying...especially comparing Load to Youthanasia. The way he looks at it
>is neither one has 'speed metal' on it so it's not like they're that much
>different. But he feels that the new Megadeth album is going to make a lot
>of true metal fans happy and make up for what people wanted in Load.
[snipped for bandwidth]
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 02:27:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: prog 97
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970201022653.22837C-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
> Galactic Cowboys April/May ???
The working title for the album is "the house that Bud built" or something
to that effect (I'm probably close but wrong).
Brandon
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:53:27 +0000
From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Phish/new releases
Message-ID: <199702010757.BAA16455@Walden.MO.NET>
Man, Phish is really good. The bass player (name escapes me off
hand) has an excellent sense of groove. If you dig some rather
lengthy extended jams, get some live stuff (A Live One, or any number
of bootlegs). I recently saw a 4 CD bootleg set of them doing the
Quadraphenia in its entirety (and some other stuff) for $99. Yeha,
standard price per CD for a boot, I guess, but a tad expensive for
me. They, however, are not metal by any stretch, but I highly
recommend them.
One more prog-ish release scheduled for this spring/summer.
Tourniquet's new album is due out. Don't know a name yet, or a
definite date, but reports say it's supposed to be "the TOurniquet
album fans have been wanting to hear for some time (since Pathogenic
Ocular Dissonance?)."
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:50:51 -0800
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2240\30 yrs say we're in this together..
Message-ID: <199702010750.XAA24436@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com>
>I'm looking for the following DT promo's:
>*12" "Pull Me Under" RockAhead1030 UK Promo
>*12" "Pull Me Under" RockAhead11775UK Promo(4 bands)
>*2cd "Foundation Forum 88" Concr.8801/8802USA Promo Sampler.
>*2cd "Protect the Innocent" TCD -2363Sampler (UK)
>*lp "Images And Words" ? ? ? ?French issue.
>*cd "Rock Tune Up 87" TA Netw. 31-08-92USA Promo Sampler
>*cd "The E. Entertainment Group" PRCD 9351-AUSA Promo Sampler
>*cd "The next sounds you hear" PRCD 4902-2USA Promo Sampler
>*cd "Another Day" PRCD 5077-2USA Promo (No Sleeve !!)
>*cd "Live" PRCD 5340-2USA Promo (2 tracks !!)
>*2lp "Metal Shop" MJI MS-268USA Radioshow (17-03-89)
>*cd "When dream and day unite" MCD-42259France (different sleeve)
>Please email me privately
Sorry (not), Hey - if anyone knows about the above let me know cause I
didn't have a clue these existed. Yell it from the mountain tops!!!
and .........
>> Does any one know how Portnoy tunes his drums? My drummer is having
>I think my drummer at one time MacGyvered his.
Hey let's not talk that way on the jam - keep it clean.
>I can answer the question about tuning your toms.
>........
>2. Take off the drum head.
The cost will depend on the size and type of head you want to wear. Oil
filled heads are more expensive and will help kill that blasted ring man!
Before you throw those bad boys away, you can use your 14'' head for a
muffler for your snare that is if it is a 14'' drum. Cut your 14 or 15'' head
around the outside edge just as it starts to curve down to the metal ring along
the outside edge to cut the ring off. Now you have a 14'' piece of circular
mylar. Leave 3/4 to an 1'' of margin and cut the middle out of it. When you
are finished you be looking and a mylar donut 14'' in diameter an inch wide.
Place this on top of your snare head - no tape needed. Kiss you ring goodbye
boy. I haven't tried this for toms it may work. Usually for live performances
muffling <sp>? is not necessary - proper tuning will safice.
About what is mentioned below.. Hmmmmm..... Don't know that I would do that to
my drums - they just too dear to me my fellow Dreamite.
>the rim of the head too. If it's warped trash it. If it's good:
>4. Buy a box of tissues and a roll of duct tape.
>5. On the bottom of the head:
> 1. Fold over about 8 tissues (once in half and fold
>once lengthwise.
> 2. Take the duct tape and tape the tissues to the
>bottom of the head...............
>6. Reattach the head the tom and tighten to disired taughtness. DO NOT
>OVERTIGHTEN this will cause a warping of the head and make sure that the
>when you tighten the head you alternate lugs. (i.e. start at the bottom and
>go to the other side and tighten.) Do it slowly, so that you get even
>tightening.
>
>OR:
>
>Repeat steps 1-3 and instead of tissues: Use carpet pading ($2-3.00 a
>square foot.) and cover all the wood inside the tom. Use short staples to
>affix the pading to the wood inside the tom.
On an unrelated note: How have you guys been doing?? Long time no-hear. I've
been watching from a distance. :)
I know that...
a wonderful thing is a trigger, a trigger is a wonderful thing, it tops a
thing called rhythm it kills a thing called ring....
Mike P. if your reading this I&W is the best DT effort to date drum wise IMO.
Please be flexible on the trigger issue.
Any Phoenix jammers out there? I'll be in the "city of heat" next week with
some evening time to kill. I'd like to see if there is some trading we can do
or maybe I'll just bring the media and a few bucks for your time and you could
record my some rare DT. Hm????
God Bless and Take care All......
Michael C.
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 03:06:07 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Phish, Jazz' singing voice, other random crap
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9702010246.B21361-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
> Subject: Seeking Promos and stuff
>
> Hi Jammers,
>
> I'm looking for the following DT promo's:
Aren't we all?
----> From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com> > Subject: Other great prog - Phish! > > "Junta" (a double disc). Trey Anastasio has a masters in jazz guitar, which > by itself means nothing, but if you listen to this music you'll appreciate its
To paraphrase: UVM is no fucking guarantee!!!
:)
> Any other opinions?
Well, being in Burlington, I hear a lot of Phish on the radio. I like what I've heard. Jazzy, a little proggy, great instrumentation, great harmonies. Their live stuff tends to drag a bit for my tastes, but they know how to jam. They're one of those bands whose CDs I carry around the store for 45 minutes, and put them down on my way to the counter. But definitely falls in the "not bad at all" category for me.
----
> From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu> > Subject: Re: Awake > > Why does Erotomania give all the major themes of The Silent Man in the > middle? Just a question. I would think that maybe they would have one > theme run through the whole albom or something. Be well.
What they actually did is borrow a lot of themes from many various parts of the album there. There are also other places on the album where they borrowed from one song for another.
Why? Cause it's neat as hell.
----
> From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu> > Subject: DT after strep throat is very very ugly > > Does anyone have any suggestions for how to get back to that nice clear > sound? My crossover has shifted way low, and I sound more like Michael
First of all, let me say that I in no way presume to be an expert on this matter. This is what usually works for me. I have no idea if there's any scientific basis behind any of this at all.
When my voice is feeling particularly like shit, what I do is drink some variety of tea product. I assume real (hot) tea, with lemon and/or honey, would be best, but Snapple seems to do ok for me.
Also, avoid all dairy products as much as you can. It stuffs up your sinuses and then you have all that frothy sputnum to deal with.
Finally, warm up a *lot* before you attempt to sing for real. Sit down with the piano/guitar/whatever and do a couple of scales. Start at the low end of your range and work to a little above the middle. Then break out the tapes and try to sing along at moderate volume with something you're comfortable singing - for me this is often Alice In Chains' softer stuff and Stone Temple Pilots. Whatever works for you. Then, eventually work it up to concert volume.
Once I've warmed up like that, I can pretty much tackle anything in my "normal" range (which still totally excludes all DT except the beginning of "Lie". :)
Oh, and one final non-scientific note. I love DayQuil. It does wonders for me. Clears me up in like 5 minutes. Two of those happy little caplets and I'm Pavarotti.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 01:08:56 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Talked to Dave...NEWS! (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970201010459.20939A-100000@general3.asu.edu>
FUCK YEAH!!!!
Sorry, I usually keep the cussin' down on the massive mailin' lists, but IT'S HAPPENIN'! NEW MEGADETH!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOFUCKIN'WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
I think I'm gonna blow out my stereo tonight listening to Youthanasia, Peace Sells, Countdown, (and for the life of me, I just can't remember the other cool album name...is it Hangar 18?) I hate it when you're rambling about something you love, and completely brainfart on a name or title. Ugh. This is gonna bug me for the rest of the night....
~Eckie
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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 09:53:45 +0100 From: Jan van Huizen <aurora@wirehub.nl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: new releases in '97 and some new stuff Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970201085345.006766e0@mail.wirehub.nl>
Galactic Cowboys April/May ??? Their new album will be called The Horse That Bud Bought.
I recently bought some new records : Stressfest by Steve Morse Band .. very nice, apart from Mr. Morse himself I like the bass player very much (Dave LaRue) Into The Eye Of The Storm by Artension .. cool stuff, although a bit cheesy in some parts but I recommend it to anyone
--Aurora--
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 09:57:49 -0500 (EST) From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: IRC Chat Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970201095611.27562A-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
I tried logging into port #2112 and it kept timing me out....all these authorizations kept coming up and then it timed me out....is it because of the unix system I am on???? Email me and let me know..thanks.
Dan
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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 08:59:27 -0600 From: Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2240 Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970201145927.006bb0b4@enteract.com>
>From: YtseJim <LUTZ@uhavax.hartford.edu> >Subject: various junk
>I can't believe how many people have not heard the Xmas 95 shows... >It looks like half the list joined in the last 6 months.... >You ALL missed the Tape Tree?
Ooh! Ooh! Me, too! :) Must have fallen asleep in the back of class...*grin* And I can't really remember when I joined the jam. I was here, then I left for a little while, then I came back... *shrug* My mind has left the building...
>From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org> >Subject: PAL Format VHS
> If anyone has any information on where I can get some VHS tapes >that are in PAL format converted to the US Standard, it would be greatly >appreciated.
My friend got two Army of Lovers PAL tapes from the Netherlands, I believe, and took them to (if I remember correctly) a place that did video shoots (ie for weddings, etc) Look thru your yellow pages; I'll see my friend today, and I can ask him. One word of warning: if it turns out crappy, make 'em do it over again! They did a horrible job the first time, and he refused to pay until they did it better. They did. :)
>From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
>> Star Wars: >> >Am I the only one who took the day off from work to be at the first >> matinee? > > Hehehehe The GF and I just saw the 11 AM show, since I didn't have >to get to work until 2.
Ooh! Ooh!!! (raising hand) _I'm_ the GF!! Neat to have a new title, eh? ;) What's that stand for?? General Ford? Generic Frog? Green football? Hmm...
> I'm too fuckin' lazy to do this by Private e mail, and I've gotten >like 25 requests for Impulse's info in the last two days, so I'll post it >here.
I don't know about the rest of you ytsefolks, but to me it showed up as: >http://www.primenet.com/%7Eshaun/impulse/
Let me try it... http://www.primenet.com/~Eshaun/impulse
Wonder why the tilde didn't come out right...
Don't know how many Queensryche fans are out there, but the new single should be released on March 11, and it's called "Sign of the Times". For a complete track list (I believe) go to http://www.mcs.net/~ryche (that's a tilde before ryche, in case it doesn't show up right) and click on the "Hear in the Now Frontier" logo.
Have fun!!
-Maddy "EEEEEYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAAA!" -Baby Animal, Muppet Babies
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 11:11:39 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Quick Star Wars plug! Message-ID: <199702011611.LAA11216@umbc10.umbc.edu>
WOW!!! Star Wars was awesome!!! Some of the scenes of the X-wings near the end actually sent chills down my spine, no kidding!!! Some of the new CGI creatures were kinda distracting but alot of the new CGI scenery shots kicked ass!!! (MF leaving the hanger!! WHOA!!!)
If you are any sort of SW fan at all, do yourself a HUGE favor and see this thing in the theater!!!!
May The Force Be With You!!!!!!!
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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