YTSEJAM Digest 2245
Today's Topics:
1) Portnoy's drum sound
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
2) D.Zappa "Confessions"...
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
3) Gary Hoey / The Doppler Effect
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
4) Beatles (love songs)
by gsrockr@en.com (George Sumschidt)
5) THE MIRROR NEWS 2/97
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
6) Re: Wheel of Fortune
by Drummnstan@aol.com
7) The Dance of Eternity comments, Mr. So & So
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
8) CD Stores
by Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com>
9) coolest thing
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
10) Dream Theatre Release Date
by Mattonious@aol.com
11) Online CD sources update
by Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
12) Re: "The Dance of Eternity" for sale
by "Sgt. SweetChuck" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
13) Fw: Les Claypool, Music by Email
by alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
14) Portnoy pic and new Nine Miles music
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
15) Re: Online CD sources update
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
16) what happened to jam 2242? did I miss it?
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
17) Re: coolest thing
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
18) end of PMU...
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
19) Boston area jammers: Ytselunch II, really!
by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
20) Superior at Empire Ent.
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 13:25:14 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Portnoy's drum sound
Message-ID: <199702032025.NAA21901@goodguy.goodnet.com>
Images & Words had a very artificial-sounding drum sound, even
though it stood out well in the mix. Awake has this amazing drum sound
where you can hear every last splash and mini-tom, but the album itself
is mixed a bit too thickly to appreciate the drum sound much.
Those of you who want to be blown away by how good Mike's drum
sound can be, must either go see them in concert, or buy the Progressive
Drum Concepts video, and listen to the drum exhibition version of
Erotomania. (It was also played thus at the clinics). With the drums more
heavily accented in the mix, the rhythm has a lot of bite, and the song
itself seems to get a lot better in the process.
The Bruce Dickinson session tracks from Acoustic Dreams also
feature this accent on the drums, though not as soundly, and the Take The
Time demo from TSM single is yet another good example.
- Mike Bahr/durnik@goodnet.com- An independent Equinox representative
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:37:33 -0500 (EST)
From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: D.Zappa "Confessions"...
Message-ID: <v01520d01af1bb70ffd09@[207.90.116.228]>
I want this...on CD.
If anybody has it or can get it, please email me.
Dan
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Dan Temmesfeld - dantemm@erinet.com / s1133627@cedarville.edu
"Home of the Galactic Cowboys Page"
http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm
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Date: 03 Feb 97 12:21:11 -0800
From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Gary Hoey / The Doppler Effect
Message-ID: <199702032046.MAA19544@mailsun3-fddi.us.oracle.com>
Last night I saw Gary Hoey perform in Palo Alto. All Bay Area jammers who
weren't there totally missed out. Aside from the first opening band, which
sucked ass, the concert was amazing!
The second opening act was a 3-piece instrumental outfit called "The Doppler
Effect", led by guitarist Doug Doppler (drummer is Atma Anur, who has recorded
with a lot of Shrapnel guys, I believe). I had never heard of them, and had
no idea what to expect. GUITARISTS TAKE NOTE: Doug Doppler is a phenomenal
new talent. This guy was shredding with taste, and style - totally blew me
away in 45 minutes of pure guitar frenzy and melody. I bought his disc on the
spot, and he signed it after the show - a class act all the way.. Sticker on
the disc reads: "Doug Doppler has a great guitar sound. It's Uncanny. - Joe
Satriani... I've heard the best and he's right up there - soulful. - Neal
Schon" I must agree!!
Then Gary came on - he put on a fantastic show. He was right on top of all of
his great tunes, including the monster "Hocus Pocus" for the encore. He also
played an extremely impressive solo acoustic tune, leading into an acoustic
rendition of "Eleanor Rigby." Other covers included "Wipeout," "Black Magic
Woman.." Oh yeah, and he pulled a random guitarist out of the crowd to go up
and play blues with him - I was up front and he chose a guy right next to me -
DAMN! My take on Gary is that he's somewhat of a cross between a shredder and
a soulful, Carlos Santana type player. It's a good combination, and he's got
great melodic talent.
Go see Gary Hoey (and the Doppler Effect!) if you get the chance...
-Neil.
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:38:51 -0500 (EST)
From: gsrockr@en.com (George Sumschidt)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Beatles (love songs)
Message-ID: <199702032138.QAA20949@en.com>
Greeting one and all. I am on a hunt. In order to become
the great "Hero", I need to find a cd or a tape called
Beatles: Love Songs. Please e-mail me privately if you
have or know of this cd or tape. Thanks in advance, G.
_________________________________________
"I'm out of debt for the first time in my adult life."
"'What are you going to do now?'"
"Buy a house." -G.S. 11/4/96
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:49:24 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: THE MIRROR NEWS 2/97
Message-ID: <9702032149.AA38280@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hello!
The German Dream Theater fanclub THE MIRROR just released NEWS 2/97, the
second newsletter. Just look at the THE MIRROR webpages, there you can read
the HTML-version. If you don't understand anything, just enjoy the graphics ;-)
Hallo!
Der zweite Newsletter ist da - endlich, ich weiss. Die Mitglieder bekommen
die NEWS 2/97 per Post oder Mail zugeschickt, alle anderen koennen ja mal
in die Webseiten reinschauen! Ich hoffe, dass die offenen Fragen dadurch
geklaert werden koennen. Wenn noch irgendwas unklar sein sollte, dann meldet
Euch!
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:53:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Drummnstan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Wheel of Fortune
Message-ID: <970203153627_848294937@emout08.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 2/3/97 12:47:50 PM, you wrote:
<<
partake anyway, since I haven't yet. The Wheel of Fortune part in "Scarred"
begins at time 5:30, where James sings,
"And how come you don't want me asking?
And how come my heart's not invited?
You say you want everyone happy.
Well, we're not laughing."
If you still don't hear it, then you're deaf.
>>
well i listened to it and IMO the part i mentioned in LSOAD more closely
resembles it(the old theme from way back) so look in your old jams and see
what i am talking about, remember that awake has alot of repeating riffs and
musical themes throughout, both these sections sound similiar but IMO the
Wheel theme is in LSOAD. when its listed in the FAQ as scarred then maybe
Ill believe it. and ohh yeah im glad you have the ability to say that im
deaf, i wasnt aware that i was(this is a touchy area for me, i work with deaf
and disabled children and know sign language, but couldnt ever figure out why
i hear all of these SOUNDS when people talk) : (
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:40:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The Dance of Eternity comments, Mr. So & So
Message-ID: <199702032240.RAA19448@cliff.cris.com>
Steven Zinck pitched,
>It's been a while since I've posted, but I have to part with my bootleg
>cd copy of "The Dance of Eternity" for financial reasons. I'm going to
>put it up for auction here on the 'jam, it goes to the highest bidder. I
>spent $45 for it. It is used, but is in perfect condition.
>
>For those of you who aren't familiar with this particular bootleg, it was
>recorded 3/4/93 at the Limelight in NYC. It's a soundboard recording,
>and reportedly is one of the best sound-quality dt bootlegs out there.
Although there is a bit of controversy over the true source of this show, my
ears tell me this is NOT a soundboard recording, but is an excellent
sounding AUDIENCE recording. It is one of the better sounding bootlegs out
there, but not the best. Regardless, this item is well worth having,
especially with ACOS ("Please don't go!!" version) and Eve (with samples).
Also, this is the "authentic" version of the Tragedy/Comedy bootleg set. Bid
your heart out.
Just trying to keep people informed.
Robin Campbell wrote,
>Anyone here interested in ECHOLYN or MR. SO & SO? I picked up 'As
>the World' and 'Compendium' this weekend and they are not what I expected.
>If there is anyone interested in buying one or both of them, let me know.
Wow, if I didn't already own 'Compendium', I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Understandable that it "might not be what [you] expected", but I gotta say,
I *LOVE* that album. Again, thanks to Aaron Silverman for recommending it to
me. He da man. Now if I could just find their first album.....
-Rick Audet
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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 21:07:14 -0300
From: Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CD Stores
Message-ID: <32F67DB2.5106@geocities.com>
I usually go to GEMM site (http://www.gemm.com) to buy CDs. It researchs
the CDs you want in several shops: CDConnection, CD Banzai, CD Universe,
etc.
-- //---------------------------------------------------------------\\ || Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil -(RiOr & EcIpOcLaN Member) - Sao Paulo || \\_ mailto:sabbath.rocker@sti.com.br mailto:gzr@geocities.com _ // \\ Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6671 // ||________________________________________________________|| | "I'm Rock'n'Roll Soldier, Gonna Play it Until I'm Dead | | Nobody I know will ever take my Rock'n'Roll Away From Me"| |________( Black Sabbath - Back Street Kids - 1976 )_______|------------------------------
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 19:23:22 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: coolest thing Message-ID: <32F6817A.177@caribe.net>
Yesterday ..i went to the local sam Goody ..to buy Ivanhoe and when i went to pay for it..the manager said "hey..you into prog" ..and then i was like ..uuh...h...yeah.." and then he pulled out a card and turns out he is the president of the progressive rock asso. of puerto rico .and then he started talkin to me about some cooll bands (none of which i remember now) and he said that the week before.. they were invited into a college radio station here (pretty widely listened to) and they did a 2 hour prog show..putting stuff on like DT and lemur voice..and classics like rush and king crimson.. he also said that theyre hard at work trying to get bands to come here and he said that Yes is almost in the bag..and theyre trying to get rush, to see if something can come up so its really cool..also the guy is responsible for some cd orders ands tuff and he said Sg's and Magellan's orginal albums will be on sale there..as all other magna carta stuff...
-- Increasingly the mathematics will demand the courage to face its implications-Ian Malcolm mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 18:52:54 -0500 (EST) From: Mattonious@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theatre Release Date Message-ID: <970203182557_848322601@emout07.mail.aol.com>
I'm sorry if this question has been posted before, but I haven't had the time to catch up on all my YTSE JAM readings (I know, shoot me!!)
When is the new DT due out?
Thanks!
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:53:49 -0600 From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Online CD sources update Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/0012C2B2@msb01ncadctmsge.ameridata.com>
>CD Universe: >CDNow: >CDConnection: >Music Boulevard: >German Music Express: >MusicNet AG / TeleCD >Tunnel Records: >CD SHOP GOLD / SOUND+ACTION: >Magna Carta Records: >M&M Music Progressive Rock: >Noise Records: >Dream Disc: >Superior from Empire Entertainment: >APOCALYPSE Music:
Add: Impulse MusicImpulse Music: http://www.primenet.com/%7Eshaun/impulse/
A fellow Y'jammer added Impulse: see above:
I can personally vouch for :
>CD Universe: >CDNow: >CDConnection: >Magna Carta Records: >M&M Music Progressive Rock:
I've gotten reliable & timely service from these. Prices are roughly comparable.
If Dream Disc has an URL: please let me/us know. All I have is the info off their latest catalog, and that doesn't include any online info.
I've gotten timelyI ***************************************************************************************** Randall Braun, Contract Review, Systems Integration Group Western Regional Distribution Center, Tulare, CA (Front Desk 209-685-4500) Direct phone (209-685-4508); SIG FAX (209-688-6696) email: rbraun@gecits.ge.com rbraun@adnc.ameridata.com 5 GECITS, GE Capital Information Technology Solutions
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 18:38:12 +0000 From: "Sgt. SweetChuck" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: "The Dance of Eternity" for sale Message-ID: <199702040148.SAA14121@cyberhighway.net>
> It's been a while since I've posted, but I have to part with my bootleg > cd copy of "The Dance of Eternity" for financial reasons. I'm going to > put it up for auction here on the 'jam, it goes to the highest bidder. I > spent $45 for it. It is used, but is in perfect condition.
Sorry, dude, hate to burst your bubble, but I just recently got the same 2CD set for $40 from my local dealer. I hate to rip you on this, but it seems unfair to sell it higher then that to me. I think their still in stock. I'll ask him who his dealer is and get back with you on this. I know it was made by Why Not? records from Italy. Mebbe you can find em on the net somewhere. This is definitely THE boot of the I&W tour to get, though. Best quality I've heard from most boots.
Sorry, duders... KorgX3 aka Mr. Chuckalupugus
"Life is Precious. All of life. And one must try to take in as much of it as possible." -- Yanni
"Life sucks." -- Butthead "Yeah, yeah! And then you die!" -- Beavis
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:02:13 -0800 From: alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1) To: "ytsejam mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Fw: Les Claypool, Music by Email Message-ID: <19970204025738.AAA9820@alexis1>
> > Hey people! I was looking at a Columbia House catalog the other day and I > saw a new CD by Les Claypool. Could anyone here tell me about this CD and > how it compares to Primus? > > I also wanted to say that there's a CD ordernig service called Music by > Email that nobody has mentioned. I ordered some stuff from them, but I > still haven't gotten the CDs. They said it's gonna take between 3-6 weeks, > so I'm not worried yet. Anyways, they only charge your credit card when > they ship the stuff to you. Their prices are very good compared to other > services I've seen. They've also got a lot of imports. I ordered 2 Angra > (Angels Cry was only about $17 and the Holy Land with the extra CD was > about $29) , Symphony X, Blind Guardian, and Michael Kiske. If you order 5 > or more CDs (in the US), shipping and handling is FREE. I really don't > know how reliable they are, but service has been top notch so far, and > prices seem pretty hard to beat. > > Alright, that's all I wanted to say. Bye. > > Alexis
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:34:25 -0500 (EST) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Portnoy pic and new Nine Miles music Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9702032112.P10433-0100000@casey.emba.uvm.edu>
Heya kids. Two little pieces of news for ya today.
First, a friend of mine is a photog for Metal Edge, and he scanned in one of his shots of Mike and sent it to me, so I put it up on the web so you could all have a look. It's at http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/PORTNOY1.JPG. I should be getting more pix soon.
Second, for all you Nine Miles fans out there, we have recorded a third song. Sound-quality wise, it's not as great as the other two, but song-writing and arrangement wise, it's my favorite out of the three. It's called "Forever In a Day," and you can get a listen for it and read the lyrics at the Nine Miles Web Site.
And, for those of you that haven't heard any Nine Miles stuff, I hope that you can take 15 minutes out of your day and try us out. There's no money involved or anything, I just want people who know music (that's you guys) to give us an unbiased opinion of this stuff.
You can check us out at http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/ixmi.html
Thanks for indulging us! Enjoy that Portnoy picture!
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:01:39 -0600 (CST) From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Online CD sources update Message-ID: <199702040301.VAA27980@parka.winternet.com>
The online import dealers I use are
Alta Mira amcyber1@aol.com http://members.aol.com/amcyber1/AM.html
Terrible Teds terteds@aol.com http://members.aol.com/terteds/terrible_teds.html
I have delt with both of these companies for 4-5 years now and they have always given me excellent service and they know their product well.
Nathan Bradley -------------------------------------------------------------------------- savaweb@winternet.com Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 21:34:38 -0600 From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: what happened to jam 2242? did I miss it? Message-ID: <32f6ae483cf1002@cliff.ou.edu>
.. anyone else get this? Send me it!
Also, if anyone can give me instructions on how to get to IRC, I've a little extra time during the week now & would love to chat! (little fly voice) HELP ME!
Thx jazzmin
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 00:31:58 -0500 (EST) From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: coolest thing Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970204003004.8516C-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
> Yesterday ..i went to the local sam Goody ..to buy Ivanhoe and when i > went to pay for it..the manager said "hey..you into prog" ..and then i
I think the coolest part of your post was that you found Ivanhoe at a Sam Goody. The chances of finding a CD like that in a US Sam Goody is very low.
Brandon
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 00:50:11 -0500 (EST) From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: end of PMU... Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970204004652.9293A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
OK jammers-
After listening to PMU for the 37,000000000th time today I was wondering if DT ever commented on it. Did they ever say why they ended the song so damn abruptly? What was the goal in doing that? They could've ended it just like it sound on LATM.
Thanks.
Brandon
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:35:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu> To: "Zee' Yzeejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Boston area jammers: Ytselunch II, really! Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970204012835.26744C-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
So, now that all other important social events are out of the way, we are really, truly going to have Ytselunch II on Sunday, Feb 10th, at or near 1:00 pm, at the 99's near Bunker Hill College. If you will be anywhere near Boston during this weekend, and want to kill some time with some wacky people, email me at: jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu, and let me know that you want to show up, and with how many people you be taking. If you could do this before Thursday, you're in. Later than that, we can make arrangements.
Let me know... -jeremy
+=====================================================================+ # grad student, Boston U. #"He's sitting at the edge of the bed # # Boston, MA 02134 # staring at the headlines in paper # # Astronomy # He said 'Look at poor Gene Kelly # # <*> <*> <*> # I guess he won't be singing in the rain' # # Jeremy Hallum # You Took Away All My Heroes # # jhallum@bu.edu # Can you Take Away My Pain" -Dream Theater # +=====================================================================+
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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 08:26:26 +0100 From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Superior at Empire Ent. Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970204072626.006a3a18@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!
Uhm, I'm still alive! :)
>From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com> >Subject: FW: Empire Entertainment CD list
>SUPERIOR - behind (Ger) org. band pressing $21.98 WHAT?! Can't be! This pressing is SOLD OUT! There is only the NOISE pressing now.
>SUPERIOR - behind T-Shirt (L/XL) black, dbl sided $TBA Hmpf. Seems this dude is kind of a little too fast. The T-shirts will be finished by the end of this month. So you can order them in March at the earliest and I will sell them via Jason Skewes too and this will maybe be a little cheaper. So if you want some, please be a little patient. I'll tell you all when they are ready to be shipped, ok?
Bye.
Bernd.
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