YTSEJAM Digest 2247
Today's Topics:
1) DT promos
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
2) Jazz Concert/Deep Purple tree
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
3) rick's a sore big-toe
by fba25110@centum.utulsa.edu (bruce forst)
4) Re: DT's new album
by LaSorsa/Matthews <dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com>
5) Re: Space-dye Vest, PMU, ass-holes
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
6) 6:00 and dubliners
by sdh@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
7) Beatles (love songs)
by gsrockr@en.com (George Sumschidt)
8) marketing strategy for DT
by Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
9) Portnoy's drum sound.
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
10) Fix for 96' bootleg
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
11) quick question (NDTC)
by Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
12)
by Je Suis Un Criminel <Madi@tsrcom.com>
13) EMERGENCY! (NDTC)
by nishiki@juno.com (Aaron K. Silverman)
14) Randal's List
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
15) KISS concert!! DTC
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
16) uncharacteristic plugging of a local band
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
17) Arabesque-NDTC
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
18) FW: Re: DT news
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
19) Close my Eyes
by Coop42@aol.com
20) Oops...
by Coop42@aol.com
21) double
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
22) Re: New album due out.
by Gary Cleghorn <gary@tequila.demon.co.uk>
23) Kevin Moore / Doug Pinnick
by Daniel James Temmesfeld <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
24)
by
25) Enough with the Wheel of Fortune talk
by Gkras19@aol.com
26) Question for old prog fans. . .
by TTubbiola@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 17:00:44 -0600
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT promos
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970204230044.00712394@mail.inlink.com>
hey, i've just been looking to round up some DT promos, i have the TTT and
gettin' the LatM, and the others i know of are the CIAW and Lie ones... just
wondering if there are any others and more importantly if anyone has these
or any others and would like to dump them off. make an offer ;)
~Rip
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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 23:09:01 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jazz Concert/Deep Purple tree
Message-ID: <32F7C18D.398@mailstorm.dot.gov>
I got this off another mailling list. Maybe someone will find use for
it. Jack DeJohnette is worth the price of admission alone!
For the benefit of those in the Philly area, the Michael Brecker Quintet
(w. Pat Metheny, Dave Holland, Jack DeJohnette and Joey Calderazzo) will
be
appearing at TLA (the Theatre of Living Arts) on Tuesday, Feb. 11.
Early
show @ 7 PM, late show @ 9:30 PM.
For all you Deep Purple/Rainbow/Dio fans, check this page out:
http://www.deep-purple.com/rosas/misc/dp-tree.htm
It's got a ton of familiar names (Yngwie, Steve Morse, Cozy Powell to
name a few)
Jon
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:27:35 -0600
From: fba25110@centum.utulsa.edu (bruce forst)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: rick's a sore big-toe
Message-ID: <199702042327.RAA08603@utulsa.edu>
rick audet says....
>3. I'm terribly sorry about offending you with my deafness reference. It was
>supposed to be a lighthearted hyperbole, kind of like "I've told you a
>million times", you know, like that. I should have put a smilely face after
>it. It didn't cross my mind that someone might be so sensitive to the
>comment. I meant no harm. Again, I apologize.
then comments:
>For me, it sticks out like a really sore big-toe.
AACK!!! When will you ever learn?!?! When will the vitriolic attacks on
people with physical afflictions end? I'm sure right now there is someone
out in the ytsejam readership that sits reading with a really sore big toe
wondering what they ever did to you to deserve such cold-hearted treatment.
What kind of insensitive animal are you that you have to take every
opportunity avaliable to batter away at someone's sense of self worth?
Whaddya also kick puppies and steal old lady's walkers too? Someday you too
may have a sore big toe!!!
"You say you want everyone happy. Well, we're not laughing"
HEHE!!
peace jammers!!
bruce
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 18:42:39 -0500 (EST)
From: LaSorsa/Matthews <dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT's new album
Message-ID: <199702042342.SAA04647@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
What a travesty of justice! Is there no caring souls on this planet?!? Why
oh why can't the management get their crap together and get DT into the
studio? AARRGGGHH. I think that DT should at least record all of the
tunes, then put them on 3 discs or however many it takes to fit all the
songs, and sell them to all the people on the jam. We will be the only ones
with all of the tunes in a set. We should have to pay for them but I know we
all will. Then, when EastWest decides to release the cd, we'll already have
it and thensome!
But back to reality.... What a buncha SH#T!!!!!!
Rock on,
Tony
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:38:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Space-dye Vest, PMU, ass-holes
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970204193512.5718B-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Number one, PMU's ending has been disgussed often. However, since it is a
valid question for this digest, the boys ran out of tape before the song
ended.
Next, what are the samples in sdv from? What do they mean?
Last, would some people please pull the ten-foot long and three-mile
wide sticks out of their asses please and just chill! Opinions are an all
or nothing game and I believe there is a such thing as humor, freedom of
information, sarcasm, etc. Thank you. Adieu and be ell, if you can relax
long enough to be so.
Matt B
====================
"You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The
Great Muppet Movie)
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Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 20:39:59 -0500
From: sdh@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 6:00 and dubliners
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19950204203951.00699d30@home.seas.upenn.edu>
>The passage was from James Joyce's short story "the Dead", in his book
>"Dubliners". Now, I reckon this has been discussed here before, so I hope
>you could enlighten me a bit on WHY they used this passage in the song
>6.00??
>
>I've always been curious about that sample - it sounded so ... I don't
>know ... it creates images when I hear it ... it is sort of mystical,
>laden with meaning hidden to us mere mortals... In short, it SOUNDS very
>good in the song. But to me, when reading the novel IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY
>SENSE. The passage seems not very important in the short story at all, and
>is not very 'mystical' or laden with deeper meaning (mind you; I'm not a
>literary critic!! Good chances of being wrong!), and it seems DT have
>just snipped a little piece of conversation out of its context (I know -
>that's what samples are...).
>
>So I wonder if there has been any discussions on the jam on this, and if
>you know more than I. I guess I was a little disappointed to read the
>words in such a different context, where they did not at all produce the
>images & thoughts as they do in the song.
>
>If anyone are interested, I can type the passage for you, or give
>instructions on where to look for it in the story.
>
>
Aunt Kate said that Julia had wasted away in the choir, instead of using
her talent and trying to go ahead with a professional singing career. She
then said, referring to the choir: "...Six o'clock on a christmas morning.
And all for what?"...
"Well, isn't it for the honour of God, Aunt Kate?"...
"I know all about the honour of God, Mary Jane, but I think it's not all
that honourable for the pope to turn out the women out of the choirs that
have slaved there all there lives ..."
The point of the passage is that Julia had wasted her life away in a church
choir instead of using her talent to do something. This fits perfectly
with the theme of 6:00, which was based on KM's friend who worked in a
factory all his life and finally realized too late that he had wasted his
life and his talent.
Scott Houldin
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 20:50:22 -0500 (EST)
From: gsrockr@en.com (George Sumschidt)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Beatles (love songs)
Message-ID: <199702050150.UAA17412@en.com>
Greeting one and all. I am on a hunt. In order to become
the great "Hero", I need to find a cd or a tape called
Beatles: Love Songs. Please e-mail me privately if you
have or know of this cd or tape. Thanks in advance, G.
_________________________________________
"I'm out of debt for the first time in my adult life."
"'What are you going to do now?'"
"Buy a house." -G.S. 11/4/96
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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:36:37 -0500
From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: marketing strategy for DT
Message-ID: <199702050334.TAA09511@kim.teleport.com>
ok, here's the plan, so listen up.
"Cover My Eyes" by Dream Theater (Not Marillion) is a three-minute
song. This leads me to believe that it is radio-friendly. Since it is by
Dream Theater, I assume that it kicks ass. With these assumptions, here is
my marketing strategy.
June 18: Cover My Eyes the video and single is released to
television and radio. All the stations will be blown away by the complexity
of such a short song. It rocks soooo hard and it really turns all the
grunge-heads' heads.
June 21: The Cover My Eyes single is released. This single,
available in every cd store, has three tracks. 1) Cover My Eyes, 2) the
studio version B-side of "Caught in alice's 9 inch tool garden", 3) the Yes
medley from Ronnie Scott's. This has something for the DT fan, the metal
fan, and the prog fan in everyone.
July 4th: The US celebrates its independence with the release of
the highly anticipated DOUBLE cd named "" (actually i can't think of that)
Each cd is over 60 minutes long, but one cd is half Metropolis II (over 30
minutes)
July 5th: Dream Theatre is a household name.
July 6th: people realize it is spelled "Dream Theater"
By December 31st, 1997: Progressive music rules the world. People
take up an interest in other prog bands, and instantly Queensryche,
Marillion, Superior, ad infinitum become the most powerful bands in the
universe.
early 1998: DT tours Europe
late 1998: world peace established.
later 1998: DT starts recording new cd.
Ok, you get the point. :)
Michelob
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:35:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Portnoy's drum sound.
Message-ID: <199702050335.WAA01631@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
I just want to say for the record that the snare sound on Images sucks
because it is triggered. You can tell because there aren't any accents on
the snare drum at all. Maybe it was because Mike was still learning how to
get the right sound out of the snare drum. Or maybe he had uneven sounding
hits. later, j
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:37:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fix for 96' bootleg
Message-ID: <199702050337.WAA17535@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
Does anyone have it? I WANT it bad! I will pay for the tape and the
shipping and handling if someone can send it to me. Later, J
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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:40:56 -0500
From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: quick question (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199702050339.TAA10585@kim.teleport.com>
Sorry for asking a NDTC question...
Can someone please tell me MTV's general e-mail address? Please
respond via PRIVATE EMAIL! (SOY*)
And please, nobody send me joke addresses like "mtv@sucks.com" or
"fuck@that.station.com", etc. I've heard them all. :)
Thanks.
Michael Estok (michelob)
estok@teleport.com
*SOY - Save Our Ytsejam
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:59:28 -0600
From: Je Suis Un Criminel <Madi@tsrcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970204230017.233fc346@tsrcom.com>
Sorta New at this...anyways I'm looking for names on progressive rock
bands...so if there are any good ones out there...please lemme know. Oh
yeah, in "Space Dye Vest" there's this background voice talking saying "he
doesn't want you to be real, to think and so have feelings"...blah blah
blah, you know what I'm talkin' about....anyways, where is that from? Jes'
curious. Much love.
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:05:02 PST
From: nishiki@juno.com (Aaron K. Silverman)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: EMERGENCY! (NDTC)
Message-ID: <19970204.220504.9534.0.nishiki@juno.com>
Prog Rock Nite, mankind's greatest invention since the Eventide 3000, has
apparently been canned permanently at the Rock & Roll Cafe! Last time,
Bob Wolf mentioned something about moving it to a bar near Rutgers. If
anyone can verify this, the name and/ or location of said bar, or if you
have Bob's email address or another way to contact him or Dan Gibson,
PLEASE email me immediately! If anyone knows anything about a possible
event tonight (wednesday), feel free to call me at work during the day
at (212) 571-3434 x. 273.
Thanks,
Aaron
nishiki@juno.com
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 07:51:51 +0100
From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Randal's List
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970205065151.006dafb4@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!
>From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
>Subject: PMU ending, Superior Bernd, CDs online
>Sorry Bernd, sometimes I forget that you're a fellow Y'Jammer as well. I
>actually posted the catalog for everything. I thought some people might be
>interested in some of those-hard-to-find items on the list.
Hey! No problem at all! I just wanted to correct these things
because I didn't want people to think that this stuff is available.
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 18:08:22 +1000
From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KISS concert!! DTC
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970205080822.0068ab9c@powerup.com.au>
Hi
I'm back, for the one or two of you who noticed I was gone.
I went to my 4th concert ever, and the first since November 93, on Monday
night - KISS! It was absolutely brilliant, etc. etc. etc.
But what made it even more brilliant was something I saw before the gig. A
guy walks along, about two rows in front of me, and he's wearing a Dream
Theater t-shirt! The first physical proof (I don't consider email etc to be
physical) that someone in Australia has heard of them! Woohoo!
OK, maybe he just thought the shirt looked cool (the Awake one) but still,
it was a very nice to see.
Ah well, I'm back.
Steve Vai gig next Thursday night! Woohoo!
See yis
Spiff
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 02:32:49 -0600
From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: uncharacteristic plugging of a local band
Message-ID: <32f845af55e7002@cliff.ou.edu>
.. If anyone out there likes Deep Blue Something, you might also like Fanny
Grace. I just got in from school (that's right: 2:am!) and the KATT had
them in the studio. They're from somewhere normal, but came to Oklahoma
City to play clubs and get their sound straightened out... worth a listen
but not a thread... The female singer sounds like an icy mix of Tina Turner
and Bjork. I only mention this because they just put out their 2nd album
(_Pinch_) a couple of days ago. Go to Blockbuster music and borrow it for a
few minutes.
Thanks for everyone who sent info about IRC. I'll try to get that working
in the next few days so I can play too!
Later alligator...
jazzmin
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 01:27:33 -0800
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
Subject: Arabesque-NDTC
Message-ID: <199702050927.BAA00131@ms.kallback.com>
I got Arabesque today from Berand Tromp (bassist for Lemur Voice and
Arabesque)
It is some really good instumental stuff.
Anyway, he says:
"We now have a female singer and I play Chapman stick on half of the songs,
so we have changed quite a lot. We are planning to record our 2nd cd in
March 1997."
If you want the cd, called Beyond the Veil BTW, just send him $15 US, and
I'm sure he'll send you one.
Barend Tromp
Graafschaphornelaan 47
6021 XJ BUDEL
The netherlands
trevorw
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 01:40:56 -0800
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
Subject: FW: Re: DT news
Message-ID: <199702050940.BAA00156@ms.kallback.com>
>> completed: "Cover My Eyes" (3:20) and "Hollow Years" (6:20).
>k, hands up who thinks the Boys have been listening to a bit of Marillion?
My thoughts, exactly. That would be the coolest thing if they ever covered a
Marillion tune.
trevorw
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:57:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Coop42@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Close my Eyes
Message-ID: <970205075757_-1844761711@emout20.mail.aol.com>
I agree that Close my Eyes is probably going to be something like Wait for
Sleep or The Silent Man, but wouldn't it be cool if it turned out to be so
short because it's so fast? I mean the guys must be pretty frustrated because
of the current situation and maybe they were just in the mood for a really
aggressive thrash song.
Just a thought...
Andreas Berger
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:02:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Coop42@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Oops...
Message-ID: <970205080241_1380429334@emout09.mail.aol.com>
Uh, of course I mean "COVER my Eyes"...
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:38:08 +0200
From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: double
Message-ID: <199702051444.QAA11956@pepe.online.ee>
> acoustic or a ballad track... maybe it wont even make the final cut..
> hehe damn well all love a double cd.. :)
The band could release a single regular CD and then some kind of
limited edition double or triple CD. How's that sound? The band?
Hello? :-)
R.
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:55:25 +0000
From: Gary Cleghorn <gary@tequila.demon.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: New album due out.
Message-ID: <qOnCtDAd9J+yEw0h@tequila.demon.co.uk>
In article <199702040807.BAA11361@goodguy.goodnet.com>, durnik
<durnik@goodnet.com> writes
> Nobody knows, not even the band, when the new album will be done.
>The band has _nothing_ to do right now. They're so bored they're writing
>more material... they could do 2 albums at this rate. I can't understand
>why their management isn't getting them into the studio. With all that's
>happened, it would probably be just fine if Portnoy produced the album
>himself. After all, he co-produced Working Man.
>
>- Mike Bahr/durnik@goodnet.com- An independent Equinox representative
Good grief i hope not , the production's ok but hardly good enough for
Dream Theater. Anyway i thought Paul Northfield was on board as
producer or is that only a maybe?
-- Gary Cleghorn Mmmmmm... donuts whoo-hoo------------------------------
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 11:42:48 -0500 From: Daniel James Temmesfeld <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Kevin Moore / Doug Pinnick Message-ID: <s2f87266.066@smtpgate.cedarville.edu>
Kevin Moore finally updated his ChromaKey page. Apparently, he's got 4-5 mixed, and 3 more to go.
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Sorry, no URLs for those pages. You can get to them through my links page:
http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/links.htm
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:46:03 -0500 (EST) From: Gkras19@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Enough with the Wheel of Fortune talk Message-ID: <970205123157_1580114587@emout14.mail.aol.com>
I don't mean to be rude, but it is obvious that during the writing of "Scarred", and LSOAD, that Pertucci didn't stop and say "Hey guys, lets put a TV game show theme in the song". Actually now that i think about it, it does sound more like the "Price is Right" than "Wheel of Fortune".
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:51:17 -0500 (EST) From: TTubbiola@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Question for old prog fans. . . Message-ID: <970205111934_-1543260218@emout13.mail.aol.com>
Hi all,
A longtime lurker here. Does anyone here remember Gamma w/Ronnie Montrose? I'm wondering if there were ever any CD releases of the album with "Man On The Ship" on it?
---------------------DT CONTENT---------------------
At the NAMM show last month I noticed that Mike Ps wife seemed to be expecting. I didn't get a chance to ask him as he went backstage just after I saw him.
Should we have a naming contest???
Later all,
Tom
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