YTSEJAM Digest 2251
Today's Topics:
1) Re: too much material?
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
2) The DT World Order Methodology and Relative Flaws Therein/Thereof
by rsterry@idirect.com (Rick Terry)
3) Eden
by "R. Kevin Preston" <mustaine@wam.umd.edu>
4) Phonathons, mucous, and other ways to pass time
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
5) Re: Eden
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
6) Savatage Streets re-release
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
7) Vocal tricks
by Cliff_Totten@discovery.com
8) Ytse Jammers Speak!!
by wax@sprynet.com
9) realaudio idea
by <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
10) Re: The DT World Order Methodology and Relative Flaws Therein/Thereof
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
11) Re: Gary Howey
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
12) IAW as favorite album.
by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
13) Re: What the??!!??
by Drummnstan@aol.com
14) CD WEB PAGE IS UP!!!
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
15) re: mucous
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
16) Re: Prog night??? (fwd)
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
17) new ytsejam rule
by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
18) Happy Birthday, U-dAZ !!!
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
19) Squeezing Blood Out Of Alice's Dead Nine Inch Theme Song Garden
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
20) So THAT'S the problem....
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 14:45:17 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: too much material?
Message-ID: <32FA34CD.78F4@caribe.net>
Jon Parmet wrote:
>
> Here's a suggestion :)
>
> Instead of double/triple CD, just have the material available instantly
> on the net (say, via realaudio). From the sound-board to the sound-card.
>
> Screw the fookin' CD :)
>
> Jon
id rather wait 2 more years than have to listen to the album on real
audio with its shitty quality..
--
Increasingly the mathematics will demand the courage
to face its implications-Ian Malcolm
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 18:30:07 GMT
From: rsterry@idirect.com (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The DT World Order Methodology and Relative Flaws Therein/Thereof
Message-ID: <32fa1ca0.8307021@mail.idirect.com>
Boo!
>Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:36:37 -0500
>From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
> ok, here's the plan, so listen up.
Thinking touque mode on...
> June 18: Cover My Eyes the video and single is released to
>television and radio.... It rocks soooo hard and it really turns all =
the
>grunge-heads' heads.
Possibly, but remember that these are grunge fans. They may
be turning their heads to vomit, spit or insert another nose ring. ;)
> June 21: The Cover My Eyes single is released. This single,
>available in every cd store, has three tracks....3) the Yes
>medley from Ronnie Scott's. =20
There is one problem with this scenario.
Tempus will buy all of the discs due to the Yes content. :)
That will leave the rest of us waiting until the next millennium for a
new release.
> July 5th: Dream Theatre is a household name.
>
> July 6th: people realize it is spelled "Dream Theater"
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
> By December 31st, 1997: Progressive music rules the world.
>
> early 1998: DT tours Europe
>
> late 1998: world peace established.
>
> later 1998: DT starts recording new cd.
>
> Ok, you get the point. :)
Yes, I do.
Now if you could please put down that satchel of heroin which
is feeding your delusional state, we can refrain from notifying the
proper psychiatric authorities. ;)
Seriously though, I hope that the new one is out soon. The
wait is becoming intolerable. I am actually starting to get tired of
listening to I&W!!!!
H E L P !!!!!!!!! Is there no hormone therapy that might save
me!?!?
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:57:03 -0500
From: "R. Kevin Preston" <mustaine@wam.umd.edu>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Eden
Message-ID: <199702061900.OAA19739@po4.wam.umd.edu>
Recently I had to go and buy the "Silent Man" import to get the song Eden
on CD. Does anyone know if DT is going to release Eden on their upcoming
release? Also, does anyone know if they are going to remake their first
album with Petrucci singing it? That would RULE.
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:02:42 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Phonathons, mucous, and other ways to pass time
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9702061402.A15116-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
> Subject: East West mass email.
>
> Okay, I went to Elekra's homepage and I sent them email via their site.
OK, let's not let this get out of hand. The *last* thing we want is for
a bunch of seemingly wild-eyed, disorganized, headbangers who jumped onto
Mom's computers shouting for "New DT, dude!"
What we do want, assuming that the band wants this, and assuming it's
warranted, is to politely ask ONCE for some feedback regarding the status
of DT's new album, and a gentle reminder that it's been too damn long
since they've released an LP.
People that have to read publicly solicited e-mail like that will hit "D"
on those "Dude, DT nox radz!!!!!" posts faster than Bafu comes up with
that trademarked witty repartee.
----
> From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Voices
>
> By all means, do not use any of the blueberry drinks...not
> only does it taste bad, but when you go for that *one* note
> or scream or what have you, it's pretty embarrassing for the
> crowd to see a blue mouth and tongue..... little unknown
Well, I suppose that all depends on what kind of image you're going for,
now doesn't it? :)
----
> From: Graham Borland <graham@grelb.src.gla.ac.uk>
> Subject: Mucous
>
> Why don't Americans spell mucous "mucos"?
>
> Graham B.
Why don't the Scottish spell it "McMucous"?
:)
----
> From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2249
>
> This is weird. The best vocal drink I've ever found was Very Fine
> Fruit Punch. Get a bottle and tell me I'm wrong. :)
Yeah, but try to *find* it anywhere!
> But more importantly, this is the first post of considerable size
> I have EVER seen on ANYTHING that's focused on Milk and Mucus. I don't
> know whether to congratulate you or to pummel you! Look at this... Dream
> Theater has been dormant for so long that we're talking MUCUS on the
> Ytsejam! Lord have Mercy!
At least we're not talking about God... oh, sorry.
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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 16:02:29 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Eden
Message-ID: <32FA46E5.7B75@caribe.net>
R. Kevin Preston wrote:
>
> Recently I had to go and buy the "Silent Man" import to get the song Eden
> on CD. Does anyone know if DT is going to release Eden on their upcoming
> release? Also, does anyone know if they are going to remake their first
> album with Petrucci singing it? That would RULE.
uh? ...is this a joke? ...i guess youre talking about Eve...and
petrucci? dont you mean Labrie? ..and btw theres a very cool bootleg
(shamelss plug) called When Dream And Today unite..that fetures the
songs from dream and day with james on vocals
--
Increasingly the mathematics will demand the courage
to face its implications-Ian Malcolm
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 97 15:15 EST
From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Savatage Streets re-release
Message-ID: <m0vsaE5-0008g3C@xcalibur.iinc.com>
The Savatage Streets re-release was called off a couple months ago because
parts of many songs were included on the Edge Of Thorns album. Also, f.y.i,
When The Crowds Are Gone was originally slated to go on the Streets album
right before Jesus Saves but the band couldn't wait and put it on Gutter
Ballet. Too bad about the double version of Streets. Its a damn shame
Don COmpton
mcauburn@iinc.com
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more
to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:15:15 -0400
From: Cliff_Totten@discovery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Vocal tricks
Message-ID: <85256436.006E4B2D.00@smtp1.discovery.com>
Cliff Totten
02/06/97 03:15 PM
I dont understand how DRINKING anything could affect your voice.
I always thought that your "voice box" or vocal chords are in your "wind
pipe". Nothing that
someone swallows actually passes through their "wind pipe". If they did, it
would go into their lungs and they would cough like shit !
Later CTotten@Discovery.com
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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:18:38 -0500
From: wax@sprynet.com
To: eegmail@aol.com
Subject: Ytse Jammers Speak!!
Message-ID: <32FA3C9D.5D3@sprynet.com>
Upon the advice of other Jammers <ya got the right idea Tony>, just
wanted to drop a note to say LET'S GET ON THE FREAKIN BALL WITH THE NEW
DREAM THEATER ALBUM. I, personally, am going through withdrawals and
have played Awake, A Change of Seasons, and Uncovered so damn many
times, my girlfriend is threatening to hide the CD's from me.
Queensryche's Hear in the Now Frontier and the new Magellan will have to
suffice for now, but us jammers can't be deprived much longer or there
is going to be an uprising!!! The streets will flow with the blood of
the non-belivers!! Badges?!! We don't need no steenkeen badges!!!
See, we're getting delerious already!! DT is God. 'Nuff Said...
--
"The man who hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, strategems, and spoils;
The motions of his spirit are as dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus,
Let no such man be trusted."
--William Shakespeare
(From "Under the Wire" by Magellan)
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:33:29 +0200
From: <raitz@guvatrak.ee> "Raivo Hool"
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: realaudio idea
Message-ID: <199702062036.WAA22318@pepe.online.ee>
> Instead of double/triple CD, just have the material available instantly
> on the net (say, via realaudio). From the sound-board to the sound-card.
To those who don't have soundcards (a vast majority, methinks),
there'd be a paid telephone line where you can order what song you
want to listen to and then enjoy it in its fullest mono lo-quality.
:-)
R.
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:49:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: The DT World Order Methodology and Relative Flaws Therein/Thereof
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970206154507.8128A-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu>
On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Rick Terry wrote:
> Seriously though, I hope that the new one is out soon. The
> wait is becoming intolerable. I am actually starting to get tired of
> listening to I&W!!!!
> H E L P !!!!!!!!! Is there no hormone therapy that might save
> me!?!?
Hey Rick...where have ya been? :)
The new DT album: I love DT as much as the next guy, but I am patiently
waiting for the new LP. I have so many other CDs to buy and listen to to
keep me busy until DT's next masterpiece. Plus the fact that there's
homework and other shit to do. I hope they release the album sometime in
the summer. I think if it's released during school time, I'd abandon all
my claases and work b/c I'd be listening to the new DT album all f00kin
time. :)
How doy uo think Metalica fans felt waiting 5 years for a new album. Trust
me, it's not that long a wait. 2-3 years is the average time it now takes
between albums.
Brandon
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:04:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Gary Howey
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970206160335.8864A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
His technique sucks, but listen to his phrasing. Tasty tasty tasty I tell
you. Be well.
Matt B
====================
"You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The
Great Muppet Movie)
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:13:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IAW as favorite album.
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970206150338.4923A-100000@rossby>
Hi all:
I have to put in my plug as well for IAW being my favorite album. I also
*LOVE* images and words, and very much *like* Awake. I really do enjoy
the clear and melodic vocals that James has. Perhaps it was the mixing
process as well, but even when he sings more metallic, such as the
beginning of Take the Time, he has more definition and clarity in his
voice compared to Awake.
I do *love* the drum sound best in Awake. Portnoy's set is magnificent
sounding in that release.
Also, I have to admit that I don't like as well the 7 string, heavier
sound in Awake and Change of seasons. I'd like to hear mostly 6 string
guitars and better vocals with more clarity.
Initially, I thought that Awake was a BIG step down in quality from IAW,
when I heard just the cassette. But fortunately, when I got my CD player
(practically for the reason that the cassette did not have Scarred on it,
despite never hearing the song), when I first heard Scarred, it REALLY
made up for the cassette. That's one of DT's best songs I think.
Anyhow, that's my 2 cents worth, and I'm hoping DT keeps enough finesse
and taste in most of the new songs in order to keep them mis-classified
as a heavy metal band!
Jon Case
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:14:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Drummnstan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: What the??!!??
Message-ID: <970206160113_1246958251@emout02.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 2/5/97 11:46:25 PM, you wrote:
<<the 60-70mins that sound most like I&W's and just put that on
1 CD. I don't need 2 other CD's full of White Zombie Theater
(refering to some of the new stuff heard at Birch Hell).>>
wow, someone has a real open mind when it comes to new music
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:14:26 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CD WEB PAGE IS UP!!!
Message-ID: <199702062114.OAA24239@goodguy.goodnet.com>
Whew!!! At long last, I finally have managed to get the "official" Bahr CD
webpage up and working. It will contain all CD updates directly from the
source the moment they come out, plus it contains a catalog of all past
and future Prism Records limited-edition CDs. Please give it a look if
you're checking out the web.
Here's the URL: http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
(bet you could all see THAT one coming, eh?)
Jeff and Ryan, and others currently carrying my CD updates or cover
images: If you could alter that link to a link that carries the people to
my page, it would be tremendously appreciated. I owe you all some beers
for your support up till now. Thanks!!
Those of you with Dream Theater, Galactic-cowboys, or King's X specific
pages will want to e-mail me the URL so I can add it to the links. Or if
you think I'm an idiot, maybe you WON'T want to. It's up to you. :)
-Mike Bahr (durnik@goodnet.com)
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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:42:44 -0600
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re: mucous
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970206214244.00721104@mail.inlink.com>
>
>Why don't Americans spell mucous "mucos"?
well if you think about it, "mu cous" kinda looks like "moo cows", and we
all know moo cows are good. that about sums it up :)
~Rip
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 18:09:29 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Prog night??? (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9702061853.A19846-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Hey, gang. Aaron Silverman asked about the infamous New York City prog
nite, and whether it was going to be held this month. Well, I asked Dan
Gibson himself about it, and here's what he wrote back:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 17:57:43 -0800
From: Dan Gibson <dgibson@echonyc.com>
To: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>, nishiki@juno.com
Subject: Re: Prog night???
Sorry about the lack of info on this, guys! I've been too busy with
other things to go chasing Bob down, and he's probably in the same boat
as me, and the new ownership (as of about a year ago) at the RNR has not
been too impressed with the cash flow generated by Prog Night, so the
way we left it was "maybe we'll start it again in the spring when the
weather's nicer...". I'll post something on the tidalpool web site as
soon as I get hold of Bob and see if he's done anything.
BTW, thanx about the comparison with the Eventide 3000... ;-)
--
Dan Gibson 60 East 12th Street, #2J
http://www.echonyc.com/~dgibson/ New York, NY 10003
dgibson@echonyc.com (212) 460-8416
So, I guess that's the scoop. Too bad they couldn't get more of a draw,
especially in a town like NY. If you ever hear about Prog Nite happening
again, be sure to support it! What does it say about us, or about prog
in general, if we can't get out one night a month?
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 18:55:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: new ytsejam rule
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970206185421.3240B-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu>
On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Rip, Cow Virtuoso wrote:
> >
> >Why don't Americans spell mucous "mucos"?
>
> well if you think about it, "mu cous" kinda looks like "moo cows", and we
> all know moo cows are good. that about sums it up :)
When there is no DT content, you must write about cows and mucous or else
I will unsubscribe you.
- Skadz
:)
Brandon
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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:55:57 +0100
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'The YtseSpam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Happy Birthday, U-dAZ !!!
Message-ID: <01BC1491.B0ABE500@Tuvok.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
_ _ ____ __ _____
[=| |=] _ [= _ \_/= \__==/
| |_| |[_]| |_\ | <> \/ /_____
[_____] [_____]_| \_\_______\
H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y ! !
Itchy :-D
_______________________________________________________itchy@dreamt.org__
All of us get lost in the darkness _ _____ ___ _ _ _ _
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars [=][_===_]/==_][=\_/=][=]_[=]
All of us do time in the gutter RUSH | | [ ] ( (_ | _ | \ /
Dreamers turn to look at the cars THE PASS [_/ [_/ \___][_/ \_] [__/
____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__
http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/ http://www.globalxs.nl/home/b/bredius/
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:42:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Squeezing Blood Out Of Alice's Dead Nine Inch Theme Song Garden
Message-ID: <199702070042.TAA24220@newman.concentric.net>
I have wav's for the 80's version of WoF and TPiR theme songs. If anyone
needs convincing, I'd be happy to email them to you. And I'll put the rest
on a gift certificate. Thank you. -Rick Audet
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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 22:11:42 -0500
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: So THAT'S the problem....
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970206220719.0068ac3c@ici.net>
>Okay, I went to Elekra's homepage and I sent them email via their site.
>You can email them at: elektra.com or eegmail@aol.com
THAT explains all the problems at EastWest - THEY'RE ON AOL!!!!!
They probably need to contact everyone via e-mail, and they can't get
through all the busy signals (that or they're too busy waiting on hold for
their AOL refund).
-----
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator
NP: Tool - "Aenima"
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