YTSEJAM Digest 2270
Today's Topics:
1) Dream Theater Petition
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
2) James Arin Colberg / Steve Hogarth solo and new Marillion
by Stephane AUZILLEAU <auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net>
3) Petition!!!!
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
4) why DT has played Birch Hell
by curth@execpc.com
5) YTSEJAM digest 2267
by vanzin@dks.com.br
6) The forgetfulness of a tree named ed
by Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
7) Re: DT TRIBUTE STUFF!!!
by "Derrick S Collins" <derrick@cycor.ca>
8) DT trib
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
9) dt tribute
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
10) Whoops!
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
11) images and words- 5 years later. a look back, part 3
by WildKoba@aol.com
12) finally, and other issues
by WildKoba@aol.com
13) DT tribute
by maynard-dcrebs@juno.com (Kevin J Richard)
14) Re: The Mirror samples
by Rpupkin514@aol.com
15) superior II
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
16) Re: DT TRIBUTE STUFF
by Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com>
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:24:58 -0600
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream Theater Petition
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970213052458.006a6244@enteract.com>
Hey everyone,
It's your old pal Stinky Whizzleteets. I have something important
to talk about. The other night in #ytsejam we decided we needed to start
this petition up in full force. We started a committee to get this thing
organized and running, and now I'm proud to say that thanks to the efforts
of (IRC Nicks) D-Man, M-Bone, Chambers, Ryan, Spartacus, DerrickC, Iolo,
TheHand, YtseBen, Spine, Aragorn, Ryan, and myself (Madsman) we have the
page up and running, where you can write your entry to the petition, at
http://www,prognosis.com/petition (we're gonna make it prettier soon too).
The final result will be viewable on the web page, and will also be sent in
an e mail (the script generates an e mail to one of my mailboxes, that I'll
format and send to EastWest by e mail and regular mail.
If you haven't signed yet, please take the time to do so. It's been
tested in all browsers including Lynx for you shell users. Put your biases
against me aside if you have any and do this for the band and for
yourselves. All credit for this web page is given directly to the Ytsejam
and its wonderful members. We'll make sure DT knows it's the collaborative
effort of us all that got this thing going. We have decided to maintain
anonimity with the band (even though Portnoy will probably read this)... we
dont want any thanks or any credit for this... we just have the side-hope in
mind that maybe DT will thank the Jam in the credits to the new album.
Finally, there will soon be a page on the site that will basically
work as a form for you to print and fill out, if you are so inclined. Paper
with ink on it means more to people than paper with printer toner on it. If
you have the time and are willing to do so, check back at the site again in
a day or two for this page, and fill it out. We'll designate an address to
hold the mail until we do our petition bomb.
You will receive updates here regularly with any and all pertinent
information about the site and the petitions's progress. The committee
we've set up has designated members to do particular things for the site and
advertisement. But it is YOU that will make the difference. Post to the
page, and tell everyone you know. Link to the page from your web sites. At
http://www.SpiritOne.com/~schnoor/dtarc/ you will even find a nifty petition
graphic to use as a link.
Thank you and sign the petition!!!!
http://www.prognosis.com/petition/
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener
A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come
from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG.
They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground
on which idea seeds fall."
- Michael Hedges
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 19:31:55 +0100 (MET)
From: Stephane AUZILLEAU <auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: James Arin Colberg / Steve Hogarth solo and new Marillion
Message-ID: <199702121831.TAA07058@zen.dedal.fr.net>
Hi there,
Sorry for the beginning of this message which is personnal, but I really
need to get in touch with JAMES ARIN COLBERG. If someone, or him, can mail
me his e-mail address, I would be grateful.
two days ago, I went to the Steve Hogarth "H" show and it was really great.
He played his whole album, plus "King" from Marillion and two covers: 1 of
XTC and one of stevie Wonder. As a third encore, he came back alone to play
a piano / voice version of "Easter" and "The hollow man". It wasn't planned!
I've heard the new marillion, "This strange engine", and I have to say that
it is a very good album, a bit different from "afraid of sunlight". More
details later.
And keep your eyes open for the announcement of a DT fans convention in
France at the end of april.
stephane
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:42:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Petition!!!!
Message-ID: <199702130542.AAA04283@newman.concentric.net>
Friends, Earthlings, Jammers, lend me your ears.
If you haven't heard already, there is a formal petition in the works to get
our beloved Dream Theater into the studio to get this record on the streets
ASAP. We all can see that something at EastWest is keeping the boys in
withdrawls, and it's time we get together and make our Voice heard!!
Something similar to this has been done in the past, and it worked. Those of
you who don't know, it was the Jammers who managed to persuade EastWest to
release A Change Of Seasons, and the Jammers are rightfully thanked in the
liner notes. If you weren't here for the last one, now is YOUR chance to
participate. Skeptics claim that just because it worked once doesn't mean
it'll work again, but this is entirely the wrong attitude to have. If we sit
on our hands like chickens we can (I'm not calling anyone a chicken, a
porcupine nor an armadillo, it's a simile...no flames please.), but that
surely won't do anything. This effort is well-organized by some real
take-charge folks, and has the power to really make a different. Heck, it
surely can't hurt!!
What YOU need to do, is sign the petition at
http://www.prognosis.com/petition so that your VOICE can be heard. The more
voices, the louder the roar. So go there now and speak. SUPPORT this effort,
and tell all of your friends to do the same.
Thanks for your help.
-Rick
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\****************** Richard S. Audet ******************/
/*************** ytse@cris.com ****************\
\**** Graduate Student in Electrical Engineering ****/
/********* University of Florida *********\
\***** B.S.E.E. & B.Music MUE University of Miami, 1995 ****/
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:42:39 -0600 (CST)
From: curth@execpc.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: why DT has played Birch Hell
Message-ID: <199702130542.XAA10445@mail.execpc.com>
Howdy all!
Just remembered one little tidbit of *accurate* info (I forgot mention
earlier) that a lot of you New Englanders (and others) would probably
appreciate knowing:
The reason why DT has played such places as Birch Hell (during the pre-ACOS,
HftH and Ff96 shows) is cuz they didn't have a full-blown show to go with and
they wanted to keep things more intimate. It's just that the bozos who run
those clubs are a bit too money hungry and so try to jam as many people in as
they can. Fret not, though, I was told they'll play bigger places when they
start touring.
Scott Hansen
curth@execpc.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:46:42 -0300
From: vanzin@dks.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2267
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.17.2.12.-11.46.42.2579404677.592051@dks.com.br>
Hey there!
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From: Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: guitar dt parts
I get bass for Erotomania with the beginning part of Voices!
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Ok, then I get guitar for Erotomania and the beggining (till 4
minutes +-) of Voices :) Don't expect a John Petrucci-like playing,
o'course. :) Maybe Innocence Faded, but that songbook is already giving
me the creeps. :)
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:19:00 +0000
From: Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The forgetfulness of a tree named ed
Message-ID: <33025DF4.23AA@sprynet.com>
Hey there.
I just wanted to throw my opinion on NUNO real fast. I got down to the
music store early yesterday kind of psyched to get it. Well, I knew it
would be quite different than Extreme but.....
I've listened to it over and over and as much as I try to like it, I
can't. I didn't like "Waiting for the Punchline" at first but it really
grew big time on me and now I like it a lot but this Nuno cd just isn't
great to me. It sounds too grungy at first. I like some of the slower
tunes and a few of the harder stuff but overall it's a thumbs down.
Maybe I'll change my opinion over time.
I also got Mr. So&So "Compendium." It has a certain YES influence.
It's laid back but the musicians are great and if you like Yes, I'd
suggest you check them out.
ANd....If I haven't mentioned it yet...CONCEPTION!!!! GREAT BAND!!!!
Heavy, progressive, nice lyrics, tight, great high (but not TOO high)
vocals. Really a good band that i'd highly recommend.
ANd as far as the DT Tribute goes, if no one has mentioned it, I'd like
to do the vocal work for "YTSEJAM".
thanks and I'll go back into hiding now
Later
Phillip
COOL CD of the day: Conception "Parallel Minds"
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:57:04 -0330
From: "Derrick S Collins" <derrick@cycor.ca>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DT TRIBUTE STUFF!!!
Message-ID: <199702130627.CAA15170@bud.peinet.pe.ca>
> A Mind Beside Itself
> (Erotomania)
> Bass: Fernando Ma
> Guitars: Jake (forgot his last name)
> Vocals:
> Keys:
> Drums:
I'll do the Vocals on Erotomania. :)
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:53:24 +0000
From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT trib
Message-ID: <199702130652.AAA21688@Walden.MO.NET>
>The Ytsejam
> Bass:
> Guitars: Vincent LuPone
> Vocals:
> Keys:
> Drums:
I CALL VOCALS ON THIS ONE, hehe :).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 00:51:52 -0600
From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: dt tribute
Message-ID: <3302ba040a74002@cliff.ou.edu>
Looks like Arizona's the place to be m, perhaps starting in spring break?
Thanx Hector!
I'd like to include Killing Hand from WDADU, and I'll call vocals on it.
Between Charlie's studio version and James' live version (not to mention the
tempo differences), I think a reworking would be GREAT.
Let's not limit the songs just yet. Here's the list I've grokked from the
'jam (and hey, didn't I say I could coordinate? Let's keep it public for a
while!):
Guitars: Vince -- Mirror/Lie, Ytsejam
Rip -- UAGM, Scarred
Chris Ptacek -- ACOS
Jake -- Erotomania
Bass: Fernando Ma -- Erotomania, Voices
Jonathan Dery (7 string) -- Just Let Me Breathe
Chris Ptacek
Keys: KorgX3 -- LTL, Metropolis, Scarred
Drums: Anthony G. LaSorsa -- TTT, PMU
Chris Ptacek
Drummnstan -- UAGM
Vocals: Jazzmin -- UAGM, Killing Hand, anything unclaimed
Chris Ptacek
Steve Z
John Parmet -- "Whewww" (TTT); "Please Don't Go" (ACOS)
Syrinx -- Mirror/Lie
Other noises: Jazzmin -- shaker box on Metropolis; harmonica
Bruce Forst (polka arrangement) CiaW
Dale Newberry -- horns, trombone
Technical stuff: Hector Crisantes: Studio in Arizona
Mark Peters -- 8 Track
Adam & Dr Drew -- CD Burner
Jazzmin -- photography and cover art!
MONEY: one very nice lurker with a cool .sig!
(sorry, I don't think the Marlboro points would help, but thanks anyhow)
I do see a couple of songs that are gathering support -- UAGM and
Erotomania. Metropolis also seems to be popular. Since we're not in a
hurry, and it would be cool to include everyone possible (who says we
couldn't have three drummers on one song?), let's just keep making
suggestions and then we'll start paring down the list.
As for the .wav file transfer thingie... it's a cool idea, but I think it
would require too much extra equipment for too many people, and besides a
Ytsecon (an ytsecon?) would really ROCK -- literally!
Keep on jammin'! This COULD really, really happen!
Oh, and Mike B, would you puleeze ask the band if this would be okay...?
Thanks!
Jazzmin
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:03:39 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Whoops!
Message-ID: <199702130703.AAA17386@jamaica.u.arizona.edu>
Sorry dudes, my f*ckup!! There are NO, repeat **NO** vocals on the
instrumental tracks. Laterz,
Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:30:11 -0500 (EST)
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: images and words- 5 years later. a look back, part 3
Message-ID: <970213023009_-1609113698@emout18.mail.aol.com>
so here we are, at the last leg of the i/w retrospective tour. speaking of
retro, got a chuckle out of all the people wanting to do a dt tribute. my
advice is the best of luck to y'all, but this idea has been attempted before
(i was included) and as far as i know, nothing ever came out of it. think to
yourselves.....
a) how do people from minnesota, utah, idaho and mew york get together?
b) if you send tapes, how can you assure that everyone will play exactly what
is supposed to be played (how do you know one guy will play a song at 132mm
and another one at 133mm- big difference)
c) who the fuck do you get to produce/compile the shit together? where does
one get the money to find someone to produce/compile said recordings?
anyways, the last leg of my i/w thoughts goes out to mr. carlos "why was it
in spanish" alfaro. why, you ask.....well, because it tasted a lot better
going down than it did coming up. actually, i just felt like it. if you
really want to take the labor to transcribe my review into coherent english,
be my guest. parle-vous francais?
off we are....
#6 under a glass moon, or my ass sticking from under a window, or the
bafu-asked-jp-what-it-was-about song. something about apocalypse, right? i
suck at lyric interpretation.
for someone who wanted to hear or feel that aggressiveness like in pmu, this
is just heaven. i love the beginning of this tune. guitar sounds incredible-
not like plastic. real subtle kevin-isms that we all have come to adore.
portnoy's just raping the drums. but myung, wherefore art thou? so low in the
mix. prater, that'll be 2 minutes in the box for double attempt to spear
(anyone else notice that that is a real nhl penalty called quite a bit this
year? what gives?).
pantera, anyone?
and i love those tritones (shortly before labrie enters). speaking of vocals,
labrie does a good job for the most part (anyone else hate how the chorus
sounds- especially, live? jeez). maybe they should have brought in devon
townshend (as much as i hate him). but the fact that i only marginally enjoy
james voice here is irrelevant to the fact that this song just rocks too
hard.
2nd verse- why do i keep thinking david lee roth's "skyscraper"? is it that
steve vai clean tone, or is it the fact that both songs are in f sharp (or
some form of it)? very nice transitions from smooth cool lines to their best
impersonation of trent reznor.
instrumental section- i love the 1st part, where jp is just playing a few
notes really and kevin is carrying it with that coolio line, to be followed
by the rest of the band, into a monster solo by jp- perhaps even his best
guitar solo. very tasteful. i forget that he's playing fast, sometimes,
trying to get his yngwie-isms and vai-isms.
keyboard solo. a fast 7/8. impressive. i wish i could play keys like that.
the perfect solo sound. that piercing korg sound. ahh, a work of art.
the song finishes very nicely also. ok, so this may be the best written song,
as opposed to what i've said so far, but this is subject to change, after
all.
777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
7777777
wait for sleep
so we've been anally assualted by this heavy stuff (save for another day and
surrounded), and all of a sudden, another ballad. irish sounding. let's do a
jig, boys and girls. a broken-legged jig, that is. so the words are
incredible (i think kevin's strength lies in his lyrics), and i'm waiting for
it to get louder. where's porntoy? fuck that shit up, boyyeeeeeeee!!!!!
but no. never happens. thank god. saved a brilliant song. the perfect segue
to the last song. anytime i hear the last song of this album played live
without wfs, i get pissed. not right. sucks. ugly. poor. kinda like having
sex and in the middle of it, you just stop because you're bored or tired. no
fucking way....
8 is GRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEAT! learning to live.
you can't let that happen. i mean, going from the sweet rhythms of wfs into
the polyrhythmic craze at the beginning of ltl (note that the keys part stays
just about identical thru all of it, a la mirror or acos). makes me think of
doom when i hear the intro. i think it's a little bit too long- they were
starting to overstate themselves before they hit the verse.
but oh, that 1st verse. again, awesome transition from loud to soft. i will
say this now- james is fucking amazing on this song. from beginning to end.
awesome use of dynamics. as a matter of fact, this might be the most dynamics
i've heard yet. boys and girls writing music, always remember the
fundamentals- without dynamics, it just sucks. without things being kept
interesting, you get bored. it sucks. then no one buys it. no likes it. then
they're forgotten. well, i think they're getting forgotten anyway, but oh
well....
anyone else also think that the 1st verse makes great sex music? anyways.....
"listening to the city...."..........powerful. fucking powerful. tritones.
heavily distorted guitar. anger! the boiling cauldron! fuck you! your mother
sucks my cock! hell! satan!
so bitter, so sad. i love that part. one i reached for love and now i reach
for life.
"another chance to lift my life." this section here, ladies, gents, goons, is
what we call "text painting." we went from an angry heavy part, to a part
that first of all, is in major, and you DO get a feeling of another chance,
right? text painting.
instrumental seciton- again, i think this may have been a TAD overdone. great
tony levin bass by mr. myung. great dynamic play. acoustic guitar, which i
wish jp would do live too. drums sound awesome. building up to something.
where are we going? going, going, going....to probably the most amazing 3 or
4 minutes of recorded dt out there. the solos and interplay fascinate me.
team play. i never thought of jp as a guitar hero until awake. never really
thought of any of them as these monsters. the wfs re-entrance is beautiful.
beautiful how it gets restructured to fit another song. the last chorus just
rocks my head. loud, but not too aggressive. it's really subtle. it's very
final. you know this is the end of the album. the end of the show. the last
song they'll EVER play live, be it this year, or 20 years from now.
and the end itself. one of those parts i wish could loop forever. in my car,
i always sing a long (whoooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
WHOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo -OOOOHHHH) at the top of my lungs. powerful.
so that does it for now, i think. i have more issues to pick up on, but i'll
do those later.
ytsegoon
**********************************************************************
david yoichi kobayashi
binghamton university
bd91014@binghamton.edu
"i am a dream...a day rushes by but i do not. if i am cut i can be stitched.
if i am gray i can be brightened. if i am broken i can be mended. if i am
dull i can be sharpened. i am resilient." -the anatomy of man
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:40:15 -0500 (EST)
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: finally, and other issues
Message-ID: <970213024014_-2043902940@emout18.mail.aol.com>
ok, that felt good getting that shit about i/w out of me. i'll be doing awake
sooner or later.
lastly, the issue of the drum triggers. i dunno.....you see, i can't tell the
difference. it sounds like any other snare drum (i guess perfect pitch
doesn't equal perfect drum accuracy or something). i don't see a big problem
with it. i think prater did an ok job, considering that dt was a small band
at the time. granted, i do like the idea that baron and purdell did a lot
better, but i don't hate prater like some people here do. oh well.
onto other things.......
i picked up the new bowie (taanks for the recommendation, whoever said it).
and reeves gabrels is a fucked up guy! wow. love it so far. verrrrrrrrrrrry
well done. and to think, fucking bowie produced it! sheesh. i guess he
learned from brian eno.
speaking of crackheaded guitarists, wondering if anyone here is into ronald
shannon jackson and the decoding society. it features one of my favorite
guitarists- his name is vernon reed, or read, or reid. something like that.
wondering if anyone had any cool tips for stuff to pick up.
my wfs transcription business is up and running again. email me privately for
more info.
peace.
ytsegoon
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david yoichi kobayashi
binghamton university
bd91014@binghamton.edu
"'so speak, i'm right here', she used to say to me not a word, not a
word...." -j. petrucci
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 03:00:43 EST
From: maynard-dcrebs@juno.com (Kevin J Richard)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: azrael@communique.net
Subject: DT tribute
Message-ID: <19970213.015947.4982.4.Maynard-DCrebs@juno.com>
I will do the vocals on Erotomania, I know it's tough but I think I just
might be able to pull it off.
Sarcastically yours,
Maynard D'Crebs
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 03:16:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Rpupkin514@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The Mirror samples
Message-ID: <970213031605_750963145@emout01.mail.aol.com>
Yes indeed it was Jeremy Irons you heard.
The sample was from "Damage" : )
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 01:09:25 -0800
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
Subject: superior II
Message-ID: <199702130909.BAA00159@ms.kallback.com>
Concerning my last post about Superior-
1. Many thanks for no one flaming me for stating my opinion
2. I listened to it a second time and liked it a lot more. I think my first
review was a little
harsh. Lesson to Learn-Never form an opinion (or post it) after only
one listen.
3. Nothing in my first review applies to track 2 which I would say, if I had
the
expressed written consent of Korg3, ROKZ NADS!
Thank You and Good Night
trevorw
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:25:49 -0300
From: Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT TRIBUTE STUFF
Message-ID: <3303165D.74E6@geocities.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:09:53 -0700
> From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
>
> Subject: DT TRIBUTE STUFF!!!
It will need to be american to do the tribute? If not, here goes:
:)))
> (The Silent Man)
> Bass:
> Guitars: Vince LuPone
Vocals: Jose L. Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com>
> Percussion:
-- //---------------------------------------------------------------\\ || Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil -(RiOr & EcIpOcLaN Member) - Sao Paulo || \\_ mailto:sabbath.rocker@sti.com.br mailto:gzr@geocities.com _ // \\ Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6671 // ||________________________________________________________|| | "I'm Rock'n'Roll Soldier, Gonna Play it Until I'm Dead | | Nobody I know will ever take my Rock'n'Roll Away From Me"| |________( Black Sabbath - Back Street Kids - 1976 )_______|------------------------------
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