YTSEJAM digest 2278

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Feb 14 1997 - 17:14:21 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) tribute
     by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
      2) The Petition and stuff
     by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
      3) Chris Impellitteri
     by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
      4) DT trib/Take the Time
     by Anthony LaSorsa <dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com>
      5) Please contact me for Carpe Diem orders!!
     by v932407@si.hhs.nl
      6) Dream Theater Tribute
     by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
      7) Re: Chris Impellitteri
     by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
      8) Re: Gary Hoey's 1st album
     by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
      9) Cancel subscription
     by Pedro Miguel Jr <pmiguel@sercomtel.com.br>
     10) My hand is up...
     by Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
     11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2271/DT Tribute
     by eckie@asu.edu
     12) Re: Third Tribute CD
     by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
     13) Okay, the real Eckiepost
     by eckie@asu.edu
     14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2272
     by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
     15) Plans for the tribute!!!
     by Hector Crisantes <snyfarms@gateway.dakotacom.net>
     16) DT tribute stuff
     by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
     17) Tribute, good luck!
     by ".-[ Greg Slang ]-." <slanggm@jmu.edu>
     18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2275
     by ShekinahSP@aol.com
     19) Awake live
     by Mathieu Ferland <ferlandm@ift.ulaval.ca>

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:16:33 -0500 (EST)
    From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: tribute
    Message-ID: <199702141519.HAA24634@pawn.ax.com>

            This may be a pain in the ass, but how about letting
            *everyone* who wants to participate in the tribute
            musically do it......

            Whoever wants to be a part of it could send an ADAT of
            whatever they think they can do really well according
            to the specifications, etc....

            It may be a pain in the ass with a lot of mail coming
            your way, but this way you don't exile people who
            actually may do it better or with better sound quality,
            etc....plus, on the package they put down the instrument
            and song....You can file them, and when it comes to that
            song, you can see which parts fit best within the whole
            scheme of things....

            This I think would be the most democratic way to do it,
            almost like auditioning....no one will get pissed off
            at any one person because they were left out, and you
            can thank all the people who contributed their efforts
            in the liner notes......

            Just my $0.02....

                   -=* Disrespect is a two-way street *=-
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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:27:30 -0600 (CST)
    From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: The Petition and stuff
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970214091429.2731A-100000@enteract.com>

    For the very limited time the petition has been up and active, I'm very
    pleased with the turn out. I want to commend all of you who have put
    forth the initiative to cast your vote for a new Dream Theater album.

    We're not there yet, though. We will need to assemble even more entries
    here than the petition for ACoS had. It's a fact... if EastWest sees LESS
    interest in this album than in ACoS, they're not going to care one way or
    another about the band. I can't stress this enough, how important it is
    that you ALL sign. The Ytsejam has to be the main force behind this
    petition, because we're the primary forum for Dream Theater discussion.
    This is our duty to complete. We are the most active Dream Theater fans
    on the planet, and we should be proud of that.

    I need anyone who has information about the ACoS petition to come forward
    and post here or write me in e mail about strategies and tactics used in
    that campaign. I really want a count of how many signatures were on that
    petition.

    I have to ask some of you who are on the Dream Theater newsgroup
    frequently to push the issue there as well. We need as much coverage as
    possible. I want to send this petition in two weeks, and that gives us
    little time to advertise.

    Thanks for your help
    *** http://www.prognosis.com/petition ***

    BTW, some people were having difficulty accessing the site. If you're not
    able to get there for some reason, first try:
    http://www.prognosis.com/petition/index.html and if that fails, write me
    at someone@prognosis.com. Any assistance I can give, I will.

    Chris Ptacek at EnterAct, L.L.C -- (773) 248 8511
    http://www.enteract.com (business)
    http://www.prognosis.com (personal site under construction)
    "If faith is the answer, we've already reached it,
     and if spirit's a sign, then it's only a matter of
                time." - Dream Theater

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 11:36:31 EST
    From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Chris Impellitteri
    Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+VD7,nA@tcx.tcco.com>

    Does anyone remember a guy named Chris Impelliterri? I was digging through my
    box of old tapes and found "Stand In Line" with Graham Bonnet on vocals
    (arghh...). Anyway, the guitars were pretty cool (if you like 64th note runs
    coming at you for about 40 minutes). If anyone has any info on him, I'd
    appreciate it. I'd like to get some of his newer stuff if he has any.

    Thanks.

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:49:37 -0500 (EST)
    From: Anthony LaSorsa <dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: DT trib/Take the Time
    Message-ID: <199702141649.LAA28534@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>

    Hello all! Like other people have indicated, I am proud to be a part of
    this whole tribute thing. My request is this. I've been in touch with
    Vince Lupone
    about some songs, and TTT is on the list. I believe that TTT is one of the
    cornerstone songs in the DT library. AS far as I know now, there is only me
    on drums and AR Bell on guitar. I'm asking if anyone can play the song on
    bass, keys, or sing it, let vince know @ vgl@u.arizona.edu or let me know at:
    dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com
    I'd love to see this song make it on the Tribute.
    Rock on,
    Tony

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:14:28 +0100 (MET)
    From: v932407@si.hhs.nl
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Please contact me for Carpe Diem orders!!
    Message-ID: <199702141714.SAA07431@belder.si.hhs.nl>

    Hi there,

    for the last Carpe Diem shipment, I need to comfirm 2 addresses:

    1. Brian Kirk
    2. Dana Boisvert

    Please e-mail me!

    also,

    William Rollo, could you please e-mail me?

    thanks,

    Marcel Berkhout
    v932407@si.hhs.nl

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:05:39 -0600 (CST)
    From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Dream Theater Tribute
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970214105701.2731E-100000@enteract.com>

    Okay guys, I have little or no interest in coordinating the Tribute,
    because I want no responsibility for anything that happens (Cat fights,
    drive by shootings, complaints, etc) HOWEVER, I am more than willing to
    offer a mailing list for this discussion to be run on. Vince and Jazzmin:
    I nominate the two of you to organize this (possibly with Hector's help)
    Tribute. Learn to get along. If you want to take me up on my Mainling
    List offer, contact each other, and decide on a name for the mailing list.
    I can have it functional on a moment's notice. That way we'll decrease
    the traffic on the jam.

    Contact me at someone@prognosis.com. I'm willing to help people record
    out here in the Midwest (A friend of mine has the Roland VS-880 digital
    hard disk recorder) or to go to Arizona this summer (because that would be
    a blast!).

    Chris Ptacek at EnterAct, L.L.C -- (773) 248 8511
    http://www.enteract.com (business)
    http://www.prognosis.com (personal site under construction)
    "If faith is the answer, we've already reached it,
     and if spirit's a sign, then it's only a matter of
                time." - Dream Theater

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    Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:38:23 +0900
    From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Chris Impellitteri
    Message-ID: <199702141738.CAA20087@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>

     Alright! C.Impellitteri released 3 full album and 1 mini album after the
    depurture from G.Bonnet.

     First release was "Grin And Bear It" fronted by his original vocalist Rob
    Rock (known as his works with T. Macapine,A.Rudi Pell). Standard hard rock
    album like P.Gilbert always plays. (JVC-Victor 1992)

     The second one was 5 tracks ep called "Victim Of The System". Recommending
    one! He went back to neo-classical style. The first track 'Victim Of The
    System' rocks. Very speedy and technical song. And you'll love ballad
    'Cross To Bear'. (JVC-Victor 1993)

     And the next one was "Answer To The Master" album. Impressive! He expanded
    "VOTS" ep. So the same style with that album. Deffinetely his masterpiece.
    (JVC-Victor 1994)

     Finally,the latest one was titled "Screaming Symphony". The same style
    with former one. But a bit non-polished. (JVC-Victor,Music For Nations
    1996)

     So here's his complete (Except compilation stuff)

     Impellitteri (4track ep)
     Stand In Line (1st)
      those 2 discs are still available from Sony Music Entertainment Japan.

     Grin And Bear It (2nd)
     Victim Of The System (5track ep)
     Answer To The Master (3rd)
     Screaming Symphony (4th)
      those catalogues are from JVC-Victor Entertainment. SS album are also
    available from Music For Nations.

     Thanks.

    At 8:37 AM 97.2.14 -0800, Chung Ng wrote:
    >Does anyone remember a guy named Chris Impelliterri? I was digging through my
    >box of old tapes and found "Stand In Line" with Graham Bonnet on vocals
    >(arghh...). Anyway, the guitars were pretty cool (if you like 64th note runs
    >coming at you for about 40 minutes). If anyone has any info on him, I'd
    >appreciate it. I'd like to get some of his newer stuff if he has any.
    -Keiji Nishihara
      Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp
      tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:43:35 -0600 (CST)
    From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Gary Hoey's 1st album
    Message-ID: <199702141743.LAA09258@tundra.winternet.com>

    > Hoey & Co. played a song which someone said was from his first album,
    > which I haven't been able to locate. The song was called "Strut" or
    > something to that cryptic effect... Anyone know the real title? He had an
    > octave pedal engaged for the verses, and this song had my head nodding
    > from start to finish. A real bull-raper, that groove...
    >

    Gary's 1st album (self titled) is available thru his web site at

         www.sdog.com

    Gary will be playing Gibson's in Tempe, AZ 4/17/97 ... I will be there!!!

    nathan bradley
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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:05:17 -0300
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    To: ytsejam@ax.com
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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:23:25 -0800
    From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: My hand is up...
    Message-ID: <199702141821.AA14178@gateway2.prudential.com>

    Hey folks...
            Jazzmin wrote:

    >>Let's have all hands up by 28 February -- that's a Friday.

    After lambasting Vince for "botching things", my hand is up to let Vince
    run things. After all, he has set up a studio and actually called the guy
    involved, which is paramount to simply picking songs. He has also said
    that he is not adverse to any song being in there as long as there are
    people to fill it out. It doesn't seem like he's the one being the
    control freak.
            So with all due respect Jazzmin, having an idea is one thing,
    executing it is another. So would someone care to tell Jazzmin whose idea
    this really was last year (or was it the year before)?
            I ask only one thing: If Space Dye Vest is going to be on the
    album, I be allowed to have some part in it. Someone claimed the guitar
    and vocals, I'd do either. I can also do the keys if given the music two
    weeks in advance, and the bass as well. Please let me in on this one. I
    beg of you...

    Andrew
    _____________________
    When the music stops,
    There's only the sound of the rain...

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:44:49 -0700 (MST)
    From: eckie@asu.edu
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2271/DT Tribute
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970214114422.11477E-100000@general5.asu.edu>

    On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 Drummnstan@aol.com wrote:

    > lets get really freakin nutz and cover ACOS. anyone up for it???
    >
    >
    > laterz,
    > stan
    >
    Sure...

    ..you just gotta provide me with the 7 string.

    >:)

    ~Eckie

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:53:36 -0500 (EST)
    From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Third Tribute CD
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970214135224.5288A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>

    A 74-minute epoc written by the collective Ytsejammers. And guess what?
    We'd get so pissed off at each other by half way through that we'd...
    That's right!!! NUKE!!! NUKE!!! NUKE!!! Be well.
    Matt B

    ====================
    "You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The
    Great Muppet Movie)

    "Now all we need is a little enerjon, and a lot of luck." (Optimus Prime,
    Transformers the Movie)

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:18:24 -0700 (MST)
    From: eckie@asu.edu
    To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Okay, the real Eckiepost
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970214120654.11477H-100000@general5.asu.edu>

    Hi all,

    I don't mean to clutter up yer mailbox too much (with this whole tribute
    CD discussion goin' on...in fact, that's my main concern in this post),
    especially since email traffic has jumped considerably (for me, anyways).

    Enuff of the formalities:

    It's truly hysterical that a) guitarists are a dime a dozen, and 2) all
    of 'em want to contribute to this album, myself included. Unfortunately,
    only the meatiest chops survive the butcher, so...

    I want to play the triangle! Or the shotgun (Metallifans know what I"m
    talkin' about here).

    Another problem that I know Vince is gonna face (seriously, I've been in
    his dorm room) is all the fookin' mail he's gonna have to handle.
    Please split up the chores here; have Jazzmin carry out the east coast
    operations and Vince the southwest operations, and maybe even a third
    collaberation on this thing. A double CD may be what comes out of this
    whole thing if we get enough blood, sweat, studio time and dead rodents.
    The whole thing looked fantastic until somebody (Jazzmin) stomped on
    another person's (Vince) foot. "All ya need is love." Come on here,
    can't we all just get along?

    Second topic: (NDTC)
            Are there decent sound adapters/peripherals for Macintosh? Are
    they better or worse than PC? I'm thinking of buying a Mac over a PC,
    'cuz quite simply, I'm a studio artist who's studying varying forms of
    animation. So ya might see the connection there. It'd also be nice if I
    could get myself recorded onto the danged thing (This is where
    ytse-computer people come in). I heard Steve Vai mastered his new
    album, "Fire Garden" on a Mac.

    Now back to your regular flame warring,

    ~Eckie

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:18:47 -0500 (EST)
    From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2272
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970214161740.20608A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>

    On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Andrew Dietr Miller wrote:

    > It's funny everyone is talking about this tribute, they talked about doing
    > it last year too. It's never getting done, your fooling yourselves, but
    > go ahead I could use the laugh.

    Yes, I agree with Andrew. If it does get done, I will be surprised.

    But keep thinking that you guys will do a tribute. It just makes me delete
    all those messages so much faster. I now have less ytsejam reading to do.

    Brandon

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:23:09 -0800
    From: Hector Crisantes <snyfarms@gateway.dakotacom.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Plans for the tribute!!!
    Message-ID: <3304E5CD.84B@pop.dakotacom.net>

    Hello,

    Ok, this is the thing so far... I will be out this weekend until
    Monday, so any e-mail you send will not be read until then. I'm planing
    to do some preliminary recordings (nothing final) next weekend with some
    jammers from AZ, I'm going to make a wav file out of this and send it to
    the JAM. This is just to give people and idea of what it will probably
    sound like. I'm not going to do this thing if it ends up being an AZ DT
    TRIBUTE, that is not what I want. I will do as much as I can to get as
    many people involved in the recording. Fortunately I don't have to
    organize this damn thing because it seems like some have taken it as
    their duity already, but I will withdraw my offer if this whole thing
    gets too messed up. I don't want any hard feelings between anyone, and
    I don't want to end up being the one to blame. THIS WILL WORK!!! I know
    we can put something together that we will be proud of, but remeber,
    your participation is crucial. Again, I will be gone all weekend, but I
    will try to keep in touch as best I can. I hope all is well. Please
    take this thing seriously.

    Sincerely,

    Hector Crisantes
    AKA: DTFreak

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:28:48 -0700 (MST)
    From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: DT tribute stuff
    Message-ID: <199702142128.OAA19232@goodguy.goodnet.com>

    OK all, here's what I've noticed so far...

    1. The AZ location is probably pretty good. We have some flexibility in
    location. I'm willing to drive down to Tucson to do whatever parts need
    doing. I also have access to a house with a nice sizable garage here in
    Gilbert (my in-laws' place) so whatever facilities are necessary, we can
    probably get. Vince, my voice number's on my web page if you want to give
    me a ring.

    2. I have a DAT recorder... not the greatest one, but it will suffice for
    storing the finished versions of the songs.

    3. Don't sweat it if someone already called a part you wanted!!
    Personally, I was gonna have some people get together with me to do an
    acoustic version of Pull Me Under and a bluegrass version of Take The
    Time, all totally independent of the people doing the "real" covers. Cover
    tapes are only as awesome as your variations make them... provided you
    play well and with energy and spirit. There can easily be multiple
    interpretations of the same songs on the tribute. The Tori Covered tribute
    has some songs that I hate one version of and like another version of. Of
    course, most everything on it sucks. That said, I want to hear a country
    version of Don't Look Past Me.

    4. Would I be the distributor for it? I don't know, this just came up, and
    though I'm complimented that people turn to me automatically, I really
    haven't been secretly planning this all along as a profit-making venture.
    :) I'm willing though. If I don't do it, Jim
    Colberg might... he's a crack shot with a CD burner. We'll just have to
    see. I'll say this: I'll do it if I can commit to making the production
    and turnaround time reasonably small, based on my backorder load at that
    time.

            Take it easy everyone!!

    - Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:29:36 -0500 (EST)
    From: ".-[ Greg Slang ]-." <slanggm@jmu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Tribute, good luck!
    Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.970214162535.17920A-100000@falcon.jmu.edu>

    To all contributing to this effort, I think it's a very cool idea. Not
    only would the final product be something great to listen to, but it
    shows just how spirited the jammers on this list are. I'm not one to
    contribute, but would be willing to pay just about anything for the final
    product. I'm sure many feel the same way. I wish everyone the best of luck
    and urge everyone to contribute. It should be a real honor!

    --
    Slang, Gregory
    slanggm@jmu.edu
    

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:36:40 -0500 (EST) From: ShekinahSP@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2275 Message-ID: <970214145827_-939298420@emout18.mail.aol.com>

    Please take me off your e-mail list.

    Thanks!

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    Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:01:35 -0500 (EST) From: Mathieu Ferland <ferlandm@ift.ulaval.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Awake live Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9702141613.A5965-0100000@weber.ift.ulaval.ca>

    I finally found a place to buy some bootleg and importations (I live in Quebec city, Canada, the country just to the north of USA, maybe you can see it on a map...) I bought Awake, live on video in Japan. It's a great show but I have difficulties with the bass. Sometimes, it's too rough, you can hear the strings like if he uses a hammer instead of his fingers. Like in Lie or Mirror, the bass is over all the others instruments. My question is: Can you find this sound on several others bootleg? (cuz I'm planning to buy some and I don't want to be disapointed) Also, I heard about Superior, is it good?, I listened 1 song and I was surprised. Maybe some comparaison will be appreciated Finaly, Eldritch have an upcomming album. When it will be available?

    Thanks in advance Long life to Dream Theater

    Ferl

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