YTSEJAM Digest 2284
Today's Topics:
1) Sorry..
by "Rudy van IJzendoorn" <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2283
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
3) death of metal
by acook@tiac.net (acook)
4) Cleveland Rocks again
by gsrockr@en.com (George Sumschidt)
5) oh brother.............
by WildKoba@aol.com
6) UNIVERSITY OF HARTFORD JAMMERS
by "INCE, ALPER" <INCE@uhavax.hartford.edu>
7) Re: GnR
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
8) fan club package? Question for Neil Elliot
by "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
9) Tribute for Jammers
by LaSorsa/Matthews <dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com>
10) Is it me??...It's them, right??
by El Vaquero <VAQUERO@CONCENTRIC.NET>
11) Rudy's Samples
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
12) DT album - let THEM release it!!!
by Rich.Rochelle@asu.edu
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2283 To be ytsejammer to do the tribute
by Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
14) +live+
by Andrew Dietr Miller <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
15) Hear in the Now Frontier
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:34:08 +0100
From: "Rudy van IJzendoorn" <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl>
To: "The Majesty Chronicle" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Sorry..
Message-ID: <m0vwZLJ-000DlYC@parijs.tip.nl>
Hi Jammers,
I'd like to inform you all that from today off the new songs are no longer
available. I had some thoughts about it, and it doesn't seem fair to the
band that these songs are there so prematurely. Again, sorry for the
inconvenience. I talked to a few people about it, and I drew my
conclusions. Everyone that downloaded the songs, please do a wise thing,
and keep them to yourselves. I guess I got a little carried away with it.
In any case a bandmember is reading this, I'm terribly sorry!
Jam on...
Rudy van IJzendoorn
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:20:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2283
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970217140010.19633D-100000@enteract.com>
> From: "Ken McWatters" <kmcwatters@hotmail.com>
> Subject: DT tribute: ytsejammers only?
> One comment I had on the whole issue. I really think we should keep
> people's brothers, sisters, a cool player in this band we know across
> town, etc. OUT of this tribute.
I TOTALLY ABSOLUTELY AGREE. There are LOTS of GREAT bands out
there that can cover Dream Theater songs. We're not trying to prove that
point. The original intent for this tribute (when it was originally
brought up I believe almost 2 years ago) was to record an album of DT
covers BY the Jam FOR the Jam. It gets very tricky once we consider
marketing it outside of the Ytsejam, but foremost, I don't think ANYONE
should be recording on this thing if they A). Aren't on the jam, or B).
Are a known recording artist. It's just not fair to ask jammers to
compete with Shadow Gallery, Symphony X, or Fates Warning. If we do as
well as they would have, great... but NO ONE needs that kind of stress.
This is an Internet tribute... not the "Dream Theater Tribute, by Magna
Carta." It seems only natural that it would be recorded by Dream Theater
fans from the Internet mailing list.
> This is a good question... I'm waiting to hear back from Mike B. Anyone
> else out there professionally mix and burn CDs? I have heard only one or
> two "hey, I'd like a copy of this even though I'm not going to play on it"
> replies. I have also seen three "YEAH RIGHT" posts. SO.... DO WE HAVE
> JAMMER SUPPORT?
> If nobody is going to cover the cost of manufacturing, there is no point in
> doing the tribute. That means that if nobody is going to perk up and buy
> one (I guess if there were any profits we could send it to the band's kids'
> college fund?) we probably ought to stop the planning right here and now,
> before everyone gets hir hopes up.
If Mike Bahr isn't up to the task (I suspect he's rather pumped
about this) I know a minor label that would be quite interested if the
product comes out well. I've already discussed the possibility with them.
My concern is: Should anyone make a dime off of this? My personal
belief is "Absolutely Not." I don't know what kind of profit Mike turns
on his cds, but there's no way the recording artists are gonna get paid
for this (Dream Theater or the performers on the cd) so I have a hard time
justifying anyone else making a buck off of it. I know Mike isn't soaking
anyone on this stuff, but maybe there's a way we could keep costs down
with this album. I know some very reliable places that make high quality
cds for about $8 cost. That's an option, just as perhaps seeing if MR,
Bahr could come up with some really good price for the cd would be an
option. In Mike's case, I know he has to get reimbursed for the time and
effort he puts in, so I'm in no way slamming him (I've purchased 3 of his
cds... wouldn't support him if I thought he was being less than great with
his services)... but in terms off efficiency and cost, it might be best to
work with one of the places around here.
> Oh, and he mentioned something about shaving James' head before kicking
> him out of the band.
I heard a rumor that Cyndi Lauper is singing for DT now. Is that true?
- Chris Ptacek
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:11:15 -0500 (EST)
From: acook@tiac.net (acook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: death of metal
Message-ID: <199702172111.QAA18476@zork.tiac.net>
>As most of you live in USA and you like metal bands like Iron Maiden,
>Helloween, Metallica, Megadeth, Angra, etc., what do you think about it?
>I love metal and IMO Jason's opinion was ridiculous.
I would have to agree that certain forms, if not most forms of metal are
dead. Pop metal is definitely gone, as is thrash, and even straight ahead
metal like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest is washed up. However, I think we'll
see a resurgance of this type of music in a newer, fresher progressive form
when DT's next album sells a few million copies and subsequent bands like
Superior, Shadow Gallery, and Lemur Voice break it big. However if this form
of music gets big it won't die out because it's intelligent, musically
interesting, and doesn't sound dated unlike the pop metal of the eighties
and todays alternative bands. Now that I think about it, DT and DT-like
bands mix elements of all the recent time periods of music. The prog-iness
of the 70's, the powerful vocals and virtuoso guitar work of the 80's, and,
well whatever stuff that happened in the 90's that didn't suck. Plus they
mix in jazzy stuff from earlier in the century, and classical stuff that
goes way back! All of this is why this music doesn't seem dated to me, and
even if it doesn't break big, it proves that quality music will last no
matter what form it comes across as. That's my rambling for the day.
adam
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:21:23 -0500 (EST)
From: gsrockr@en.com (George Sumschidt)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cleveland Rocks again
Message-ID: <199702172121.QAA14632@en.com>
Hey group. Well, it finally happened. WMMS fm in Cleveland
has listened to the masses and decided to do away with their
Alternative format and switch to Hard Rock. There is once again
hope that DT will get back on the air.
This morning at 6:00, Stupid Girl by Garbage was playing.
Halfway through the song, you could hear strange voices, then
gunshots, then someone saying, 'start the next song!'
The next song was Back In Black by AC/DC. Soundgarden
followed it up with Blow Up The Outside World, then Nothing Else
Matters by Metallica. Ah, what a way to wake up in the morning.
I am going to be writing a letter to the station asking them
to get some DT in their rotation. Now my question.... What
should I ask them to play??? I was thinking 6:00 or perhaps PMU.
Please respond via private e-mail so as not to clog the jam with
answers to my pleadings.
On the downside of this revelation is the unwanted airplay
of bands such as Bush, U2 and Live. I could do without hearing
that stuff again. Oh well, I guess all is NOT golden in Cleveland.
One of the nice things I DID hear was Stevie Ray Vaughn
playing Pride And Joy and some of the rocking songs that Led
Zeppelin did. (If I never hear "All Of My Love" again, it will be
too soon)
Talk to you all again soon. Thanks in advance for your
responses, G.
_________________________________________
"I'm out of debt for the first time in my adult life."
"'What are you going to do now?'"
"Buy a house." -G.S. 11/4/96
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:28:43 -0500 (EST)
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: oh brother.............
Message-ID: <970217162841_883461163@emout19.mail.aol.com>
so here we are, all getting our pant(ie)s wet over this silly
tribute........oh brother............i have a problem believing that
something like this can actually be worked out. call me mirthandir if you
like, but i dunno...........this is getting silly now........jeez.
well, y'all go have fun with your tribute (btw, will this be a dobule cd?),
and i wish y'all the best of luck, but um.......anyways.
ytsegoon returns.
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david yoichi kobayashi
binghamton university
bd91014@binghamton.edu
"i bring truth and understanding, i bring wit and wisdom fair. precious gifts
beyond compare." -n. peart
"...i held with all my might- fearing my deepest fright, she walked into the
night. she turned for one last look- she looked me in the eye. i said 'i love
you...goodbye.'" -m. portnoy
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:57:59 +0000
From: "INCE, ALPER" <INCE@uhavax.hartford.edu>
To: JAM YTSE <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: UNIVERSITY OF HARTFORD JAMMERS
Message-ID: <Pine.VMS.3.91-vms-b4.970217135322.4207A-100000@uhavax.hartford.edu>
Are there any U of H or Harford Dream Theater fans on this list? I will
appreciate your e-mails to me.I am a progressive rock guitar player and I
want to form a band which will do covers of
DT,Queensryche,Rush,Yes, Marillion etc.
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:58:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: GnR
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970217165708.25881B-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Slash kicks ass, I don't care what they sang about. He's more melodic
than many technical geniuses, namely Yngwie. Axel's vocals are good, too,
even though he's a shit. They kick ass. Be well.
Matt B
====================
"You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The
Great Muppet Movie)
"Now all we need is a little enerjon, and a lot of luck." (Optimus Prime,
Transformers the Movie)
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:34:41 -0500 (EST)
From: "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: fan club package? Question for Neil Elliot
Message-ID: <199702172334.SAA16732@web1.america.net>
Hey Neil, um, I was wondering when we "newbie" clubbers would receive our
introductory package (like the little card and all that stuff..). I got the
cd and the fanzine, but there was a note that said that all of the marterial
wasn't available yet. I was just wondering when it might be ready? thanks!
(would've written you directly but I don't know your email...)
Beavis (Wes Foll) http://www.america.net/~wfoll/beavis.htm
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:39:55 -0500 (EST)
From: LaSorsa/Matthews <dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tribute for Jammers
Message-ID: <199702172339.SAA25979@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
Hello all! I will have to agree that the tribute should be for all jammers.
Not just the ones in the Southwest area. It wouldn't be a total jammer product.
If we have the man's blessing, lets do it up. Maybe he could be a part of
it somehow in the production or cover stuff. Just an idea.
As far as having relatives play on it, yes I asked my cousin if he would do
keys for the couple songs I want to do. When I asked him, there was NO ONE
signed up for keys on ANY of the songs. I'd prefer to have all jammers on
the album as well as most of you probably do too.
That's all I got to say about that.
This IS going to be a difficult thing to pull off but what a rush it would
be to have a finished product. I'd buy 3 or 4 copies for myself and friends.
See ya,
Tony
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Date: 2/17/1997 18:46
From: El Vaquero <VAQUERO@CONCENTRIC.NET>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Is it me??...It's them, right??
Message-ID: <199702172347.SAA13601@cliff.cris.com>
I don't know about you people, but I subscribed to the
Ytsejam to get DT info and exchange ideas about concerts
we've seen or the albums as they came out. It seems to me
that all the Ytsejam is now is a place to tear down other
people's opinions and complain about other members of the
'jam. All you people are whinning little bitches!!! Yes,
this means you Pat Daugherty!!! For three years you've
been posting about Al...get a fucking life!! You are the
head bitch!!
I don't think that I've seen one person present an idea on
the 'jam without having his idea blasted from every
possible angle...and not constructively, either. I'm
taking myself off this list...I'll let you guys whine to
each other, but I don't have to flood my mailbox with this
shit.
Hugs and Kisses,
Vin D.
P.S. Any response to this posting made to my personal
e-mail will be answered with the all-appropriate "Go Fuck
Yourself."
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 01:23:32 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: Rudy's Samples
Message-ID: <9702180023.AA37132@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hi Chris!
>> OK, since we're all ANXIOUSLY awaiting the new DT album I have decided to
>> put some new songs on my website. These are all in Real Audio format, ISDN
>
>Folks:
>Any of you that have this stuff, at *least* keep it under your hat. The
>band does not want anyone to have any of this stuff yet. Let's try to at
>least appear that we're respecting their wishes.
These songs were played during John's and Mike's workshop tour here in Europe,
and Mike and even John allowed taping during the clinics. And that would have
been pretty inconsequent if they really wouldn't want us to hear any new
stuff, wouldn't it? ;-)
Steffen
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:39:24 -0700 (MST)
From: Rich.Rochelle@asu.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT album - let THEM release it!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970217172856.4521B-100000@general1.asu.edu>
Howdy all,
I was wondering what would be the major issues associated with DT
actually putting the album out themselves. I realize that distribution
is one thing. But there IS the ytsejam as a possible solution (like, I
buy 5 copies and sell them to friends who don't have access to this
wonderful list). A lot of albums are sold via the web. Hell, Steve Vai
produced his first album (Flexable) and he ended up making a few hundred
thousand copies at first. Because HE did it all, he made about $8 a disc
(you do the math, I'm already drooling at the amount)... and look at him
now (anyone get to see the G3 tour? ooh).
Would financing the album be a problem? Financing the tour would
probably be an issue. Mike B? What about it? Is this too
unconventional/inconvenient to do? I was thinking that since DT has
their act together and has a bunch of free time (probably not, but
they're not in the studio, right?), maybe this is a possible solution.
Hasta...
rich
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:25:57 +0100
From: Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2283 To be ytsejammer to do the tribute
Message-ID: <3308DAF5.44B9@uni-mb.si>
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About Ken's post in 2280... To be ytsejammer to do the tribute...
I think it's a very good idea and it sounds perfect to me...
So if someone isn't ytsejammer it's better that he/she keeps out of
this...
That way the tribute can realy be called an Ytsejam DT tribute... :)
See ya,
--
Sebastjan Videc aka StDeVil on IRC
<<- And from an Ivory tower hears her call
Let the light surround you!!! ->>
Dream Theater, IAW
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:17:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Dietr Miller <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: +live+
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970217231501.11793A-100000@copland.udel.edu>
I'm sitting here, it's late Monday night, around 11, and I'm listening to
the new live. I'm really getting into the first track, rattlesnake. It
seems to be a good headphone disc. I think anyone who has liked live will
like this disc, I think it's better than the second and on par with the
first two (including Public Affection), but of course production and the
quality of intruments etc. is much different.
I'll keep you guys informed.
later....andy
Andrew Miller Cigarettes,
ytsejam@Udel.Edu Burbon,
--or-- A N D
andym@dreamt.org Betrayl......
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Date: 18 Feb 97 07:19:31 +0200
From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hear in the Now Frontier
Message-ID: <9702180719.aa31@tppalv2.metsaserla.fi>
Greetings, ye 'jamanoids...
With all this Queensryche talk going on I thought I'd forward an in-depth
review of the HitNF album from Queensryche's net fanzine "Screaming in
Digital." Just in case everyone hasn't seen it already... :P
>_Hear in the Now Frontier_ Review - Dan Birchall
> Over the years, Queensryche have taught me many things. Most
> importantly, perhaps, they've given me an appreciation for what
> it means to be progressive. They are in a state of, as Yes put
> it, perpetual change. Each album provides us with a glimpse of
> a single frozen point within a five-dimensional continuum.
>
> Each time the band releases an album, they gain some new fans
> who find the "sound d'jour" appealing, lose some old fans who
> just can't stand it, and, of course, prompt most of us to
> rethink our ideas about just what sort of music we like. This
> album will be no different - in fact, if you read Usenet,
> you've probably already seen some fans expressing alarm over
> negative reviews.
>
> You shouldn't necessarily believe everything you see or hear,
> but to be blunt, this album is so different from anything else
> that it's hard to draw comparisons. No, there wasn't any truth
> to those rumors about cover versions of old polka tunes - but
> this certainly isn't last year's model, either. If you like any
> or all of Queensryche's previous releases, there is a definite
> possibility that you will absolutely hate this one. There's
> also a definite possibility that you'll love it to pieces. But
> isn't that always the way?
>
> For those of you who're wondering about the overall tone of the
> album - it's generally hard, heavy and raw. The band made an
> effort not to "over-produce" this one - in fact, both the
> recording studio and mixing engineer have strong grunge ties.
> If you've ever wished that you could hear more of Eddie and
> Scott, or that you could fire up the subwoofer and annoy your
> neighbors, this is the album for you. It's got more bass than
> the last five put together.
>
> Chris and Micahel aren't left out by any means. Although the
> guitar work on this album feels much more rhythmic than on past
> works, there are also quite a few solos and duets worked into
> songs. Overall, the sound is extremely lush and layered. At
> first listen, it's a little hard to pick out the progressive
> technical elements in the music, but don't give up.
>
> Geoff's vocals are, as always, strong, clear and distinctive.
> The band also makes a lot of use of backing vocals and vocal
> harmonies on this album, with very powerful results - imagine
> the rich layered vocals of a group like Collective Soul,
> coupled with all the talent of Queensryche. In fact, Chris even
> sings lead vocals on one song!
>
> What's that - you want to know about the songs? Oh, okay. The
> first song on the album, which will also be the first single,
> is _Sign of the Times_. Fast and guitar-laden, it features
> lyrics about the mess society's gotten into. It's followed by
> _Cuckoo's Nest_, another hard song, though not quite as fast,
> with lyrics that have something to do with crime and kidnapping
> or something like that.
>
> The third song, _Get A Life_, features some nice distorted
> bass, and is the perfect song to play for someone you're
> positively sick and tired of. In fact, I found myself wondering
> which of the perpetually-squabbling denizens of Usenet the band
> had in mind when they wrote this! It's not as heavy as the
> first two, but it's certainly metal. The heavy, lush sound
> returns with _Inside_, a song about trusting your instinct or
> conscience. In terms of musical structure, it's a very pleasant
> song.
>
> Track five, _Some People Fly_ is one of only two songs on the
> album that are more than five minutes long. It's a grand,
> anthemic song in the tradition of _Anybody Listening?_ and
> _Promised Land_, and features some incredible vocal harmonies.
> _Saved_ starts with some jangly guitars, followed by an attack
> from the rhythm section. The verses feature peaceful guitars
> and vocals over a fast rhythm, but the choruses, oh, the
> choruses! I haven't heard group shouting like this since _Take
> Hold of the Flame_, and I've never heard such aggression from
> Eddie and Scott. Wow.
>
> The last song on what I suppose amounts to the first side,
> _You_, is a hard, happy, upbeat, funny love song of sorts.
> Everything about this song is catchy, and yes, that chorus will
> get stuck in your head. Side two begins with the album's other
> long song, _Hero_, a slow, trippy song about someone being in a
> big machine. I've got no idea what they're talking about, but
> Maisha found it almost Lennon-esque. This might appeal to those
> who like _Two Miles High_.
>
> Track 9, _Miles Away_, is a little harder and faster, but still
> gentle enough to qualify for AOR airplay. This one reminds me
> of _My Global Mind_ or _One More Time_ - until the lush chorus
> with its group vocals arrives. _Reach_, on the other hand,
> returns quickly to the crunchy metal vein, with a fairly funky
> feel.
>
> Chris makes his lead vocal debut on _All I Want_, an
> honest-to-goodness love song. If you already know that he sings
> along with Geoff on _Silent Lucidity_, it shouldn't come as
> much of a surprise that he's actually got a very good voice. If
> Chris lulls you to sleep, _Hit The Black_ will wake you up, and
> _fast_. Hard and driving, with Standard and electronically
> altered vocals, this is in a vein similar to _Saved_.
> Queensryche may steal away a few fans of death or techno metal
> with these songs!
>
> The shortest track on the album, _Anytime Anywhere_ is a song
> about sexual obsession. Musically, it reminds me of a vastly
> more talented Van Halen. The first few times I heard Geoff say
> "oww" in the traditional jock-rock tone of voice, it was all I
> could do not to laugh - it seems so out of character for the
> Thinking Fan's Metal Band.
>
> The last song, _sp00L_, picks up where _Sign Of the Times_ left
> off. With layered vocals reminiscent of Def Leppard - also, of
> course, produced by Peter Collins - it suggests that society's
> problems can be solved, that changes can be made, that current
> structures and systems are designed to trap us into
> perpetuating them, and that we need to encourage the spool to
> "turn another turn."
>
> All in all, it's safe to say that the album is _not_ what
> you're used to, but that even with a new range of musical
> styles, the members of Queensryche are just too talented for
> their own good. Maisha labeled several of the songs "refined
> grunge" - and in the hands of a less talented or technically
> masterful group, most would be little more than grunge. In
> their typical fashion, though, the guys manage to explore new
> territory without once losing their sense of what sounds good.
>
> So there you have it. If you're looking for the Queensryche of
> the past, they've gone away - but if you're looking for the
> Queensryche of the Now Frontier, they're doing quite well at
> whatever you call this sort of music. Is it still prog-metal?
> Is it prog-rock, or prog-grunge, or all of the above? I'm not
> sure what it is - in fact, I don't know if it can even be given
> a name. I think the best description for it may be a phrase
> that the guys have used to describe themselves in the past -
> "The alternative to alternative."
_Mape_
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