YTSEJAM Digest 2285
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Is it me??...It's them, right??
by maynard-dcrebs@juno.com (Kevin J Richard)
2) simplicity
by "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu>
3) Re: Hear in the Now Frontier
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
4) Thrash metal is dead? What a LOAD of...
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2284
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
6) Re: What a LOAD of...Miasma!
by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu>
7) Cost of making CDs.
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
8) Re: What a LOAD of...Miasma! (haha!)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
9) D-man's Post + More
by Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
10) petition
by imajica@algonet.se (Niklas Thorpenberg)
11) Lotsa DT info
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
12) [Fwd: New Queesnryche Rocks!!]
by wax@sprynet.com
13) re: Michael Harris
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
14) IRC help
by Timothy Adams <adamst@egginc.com>
15) Re: DT tribute
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 01:04:33 EST
From: maynard-dcrebs@juno.com (Kevin J Richard)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Is it me??...It's them, right??
Message-ID: <19970218.000304.3414.12.Maynard-DCrebs@juno.com>
Well put point taken. "W" ;)
>From: El Vaquero <VAQUERO@CONCENTRIC.NET>
>To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>Subject: Is it me??...It's them, right??
>Message-ID: <199702172347.SAA13601@cliff.cris.com>
>
snipped
>
>I don't think that I've seen one person present an idea on=20
>the 'jam without having his idea blasted from every=20
>possible angle...and not constructively, either. I'm=20
>taking myself off this list...I'll let you guys whine to=20
>each other, but I don't have to flood my mailbox with this=20
>shit.
>
>Hugs and Kisses,
>Vin D.
>
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:11:46 -0800 (PST)
From: "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu>
To: Fucknuts <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: simplicity
Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.95c.970217220804.27982E-100000@carson.u.washington.edu>
So I'm at my apartment just hanging out and ACOS is on the stereo.
My roommates friend, after hearing the ending part of "The Darkest
of Winters" (the part with the killer guitar riff and keys solo),
asks me what the band is 'cause he liked what he just heard.
I answer his question and then proceed to play "Ytsejam."
He didn;t like it.
He said it was too simple.
That is all.
Rahul Ananda : spod@u.washington.edu or thehand@dreamt.org
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paranoia's poison door : The pen won't stay the Demon's wings :
The Weaver and the Web that he made : The youngest of the
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to escape from isolation : You've drowned in your soul's
emptiness : Bus stop rat bag haha charade you are : Knights
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:32:41 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Hear in the Now Frontier
Message-ID: <199702180632.XAA36042@jamaica.u.arizona.edu>
At 09:29 PM 2/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
>> For those of you who're wondering about the overall tone of the
>> album - it's generally hard, heavy and raw.
Just the way I like it!!! ROCK ON QUEENSRYCHE!!! I gotta buy this
sucker!
Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:37:57 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Thrash metal is dead? What a LOAD of...
Message-ID: <199702180637.XAA21844@jamaica.u.arizona.edu>
At 01:14 PM 2/17/97 -0800, some dude/dudett wrote:
>I would have to agree that certain forms, if not most forms of metal are
>dead. Pop metal is definitely gone, as is thrash,
Um, how can thrash be dead w/ bands like Megadeth, Anthrax, Pantera,
Metallica, Tourniquet, White Zombie, Ozzy Osbourne, Corrosion of Conformity,
and Sacred Reich (among others) still out there ripping it up and having
gold and platinum albums?
Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 02:19:49 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2284
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970218020557.41198A-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
>
> I was wondering what would be the major issues associated with DT
> actually putting the album out themselves.
One of the things that record companies make sure to place gold-star
stickers next to in the recording contract is the little item which
states that the band must record for that record company exclusively,
except when given permission to go on other labels for soundtracks,
tributes, etc. To record an album and put it out by themselves would
leave DT wide open for a breach of contract lawsuit. So if they wanted to
do this, they would have to get out of their contract first.
I realize that distribution
> is one thing. But there IS the ytsejam as a possible solution (like, I
> buy 5 copies and sell them to friends who don't have access to this
> wonderful list). A lot of albums are sold via the web.
True, but like you said, the distribution is shit compared to what a
major label like Elektra or even a prominent "indie" like Metal Blade can
do.
> Would financing the album be a problem?
It depends.
Financing the tour would
> probably be an issue. Mike B? What about it? Is this too
> unconventional/inconvenient to do? I was thinking that since DT has
> their act together and has a bunch of free time (probably not, but
> they're not in the studio, right?), maybe this is a possible solution.
>
> Booking a tour by yourself involves a shitload of time and a shitload
of money. Bands rarely make money off the road even with record-label
tour support. It could be done, I guess. Warrant did a club tour by
themselves in between the time they were dropped by Columbia and picked
up by CMC. But I digress.....
Richie
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 02:37:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@BGNet.bgsu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: What a LOAD of...Miasma!
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970218022439.28431A-100000@falcon.bgsu.edu>
On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Vincent G. LuPone wrote:
> Um, how can thrash be dead w/ bands like Megadeth, Anthrax, Pantera,
> Metallica, Tourniquet, White Zombie, Ozzy Osbourne, Corrosion of Conformity,
> and Sacred Reich (among others) still out there ripping it up and having
> gold and platinum albums?
I don't think Megadeth is thrash anymore, judging by Scott Cook's post
a while back about an interview with Mustaine about their forthcoming
album. Anthrax's last album was more hardcore than thrash. I guess
Pantera's still thrash, but I wouldn't be the one to know because I'm not
a fan and am not familiar with their material. Metallica doesn't consider
themselves "metal" anymore, let alone thrash. I'm not familiar with
Tourniquet. White Zombie is more heavy metal than trash, with their
industrial/dance rhythms. Ozzy has always been straightforward metal.
And I'm not that familiar with Sacred Reich and Corrosion of Conformity,
although I'll see COC open for Metallica tonight in Cleveland. I guess my
connotation of thrash is speed, something you mosh, or "thrash" to. Any
thoughts from other 'Jammers?
Sincerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 01:18:33 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Cost of making CDs.
Message-ID: <199702180818.BAA28608@goodguy.goodnet.com>
Since the tribute would be a "legit" creation, there are some
low-cost avenues to explore in production that I will make sure and make
known to whomever decides to put their time and effort into doing so.
When you're doing a home-grown bootleg production thing like I am,
you often feel like you're being "nickel-and-dimed-to-death". The blank
CDRs are cheap enough, but everything else adds up AWFUL quick. I'm lucky
Equinox pays so well or I wouldn't have time or money to work on these
CDs, which are easily my most intense hobby.
I have been asked a lot about whether I would produce and
distribute the tribute (stop rhyming, I mean it! Anybody want a peanut?)
and I would have to say YES... IF and only if I can commit to having it
done and shipping within a reasonable time. My entire life timeline was
thrown way the hell off course by the seizure of the Tori print run by 3M
last fall, and I'm just now beginning to show signs of recovery.
Production and shipping on the Metallica Wrath disc actually has gone
pretty durn well, but since the Tori problems delayed me by many months,
my Metallica customers have been rightfully upset at having to wait. Same
thing with the DT Precious Things production. The actual production isn't
taking much longer than it should... it's just taking place months later
than I had planned it to. All this being said, I have three things to do
within the next five months or so... Precious Things, Darkest of Winters,
and Virtual Songs. Assuming I can catch up to near-current pace, I could
indeed produce and distribute the DT tribute disc.
If I can't do it, Todd Strickland has said he will give it a go,
and Jim Colberg knows how it's done as well, plus we could look into
having it made legitimately and professionally at a pretty good cost
scheme... I would sure like to be able to sell those discs at $10-12 and
have the project still stay solvent.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 01:35:24 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: What a LOAD of...Miasma! (haha!)
Message-ID: <199702180835.BAA29942@jamaica.u.arizona.edu>
At 11:51 PM 2/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
>I don't think Megadeth is thrash anymore, judging by Scott Cook's post
Actually, their new album is supposed to be "everything fans wanted
in LOAD but didn't get" or something like that. If I remember correctly,
Mustaine says it's got 4 MTVish songs, 4 all-out thrash/speed metal songs,
and 4 in-between songs.
>Anthrax's last album was more hardcore than thrash.
Dunno 'bout you guys, but I considered most of that album thrash.
Upbeat, groovin, fast guitars, double bass, etc. "Kick-start to turn me
over. Punch drunk but I'm still sober."
>I guess
>Pantera's still thrash.
Yeah they are. They're a band that's very proud to be metal. That,
and Dimebag's playing, are the main reasons I like 'em as much as I do.
>Metallica doesn't consider
>themselves "metal" anymore, let alone thrash.
I heard that in one interview too, but you'll probably find out
tonight when you see them. They're very much still thrash metal, even if
LOAD (w/ the exceptions of "Ain't My Bitch" and maybe "Wasting my Hate")
isn't. I actually like LOAD, but I really don't feel that the band is gonna
continue down that direction. At least I hope not. I think that stunt at
the MTV Europe awards said something. Cool to see 'em playin' Motorbreath
again live.
>I'm not familiar with
>Tourniquet.
Christian speed metal. Double bass in almost every song. Very cool
stuff.
>White Zombie is more heavy metal than trash, with their
>industrial/dance rhythms.
I just bought a live bootleg from Rio '96, and it's VERY thrashy IMHO.
>Ozzy has always been straightforward metal.
Ever "thrashed-out" to Paranoid? I KNOW I have. Point proven tho...
>And I'm not that familiar with Sacred Reich and Corrosion of Conformity,
Very cool bands. Seen SR live and they basically preach thrash.
Very heavy. Also, if you only consider "Lie", I guess you could call Dream
Theater thrash ;p haha!
Sorry for the minimal DTC,
Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 01:39:51 -0700
From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: D-man's Post + More
Message-ID: <33096AD7.61D1@micron.net>
Hi! all
Good job D- My sarcasm detector worked well-I thought your post was
cool!
I couldn't resist posting about all the new tunage I've got lately. I've
a very cool friend who has decided to tape several of his (extensive) cd
collection over for me!
Tangerine Dream: all of them
Ozric Tenacles: 4 -I can't remember all of them right now
Eloy: 2
Pink Floyd: Breathe (Live studio Dark Side of the Moon)
" '" : Live BBC with Echoes,Some cuts from Atom Heart Mother, One
of these Days, and a couple others!
I just bought:
Klause Schule: Dig it (anyone know where I can find the lyrics for
this??)
PF: Ummagumma (2cd)
HW: Live Chronicles, Do Not Panic
JT: Heavy Horses :)
/me is enjoying myself!!!
I haven't been keeping up here-what's happening with the new DT album?
Sorry for not keeping up-been workin' late & long!! Wasn't it 'sposed to
be out sometime soon??
Keep rockin'
Pam
Waiting
--
Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton
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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:10:51 +0100 (MET)
From: imajica@algonet.se (Niklas Thorpenberg)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: petition
Message-ID: <199702161410.PAA28161@angel.algonet.se>
Some people have been wondering what the we're trying to achieve with the
petition (i thought that was obvious :-)). We want a new album! But why
write to the record company? Because if we're gonna complain, we might as
well do it where it may make a difference. I mean, there really isn't much
use in complaining on the jam or to your friends; they can't do anything
about it anyway, and everyone already knows it has been too long since the
last album. But maybe Elektra don't know that we all feel that way, and so
it is our best chance of making things happen. Right?
oOo
Information wants to be free...
oOo
Niklas
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 01:20:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Lotsa DT info
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970218001846.26347C-100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
> From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
> I heard a rumor that Cyndi Lauper is singing for DT now. Is that true?
> - Chris Ptacek
What?!?!? You need to re-check your sources, man! Pat Benatar's the new
vocalist, not Cyndi!
Cyndi Lauper? Christ, how do people manage to come up with this stuff!!!
Oh, and as part of the big send-off for James, not ONLY did DT make him
shave his head (D-Man, you scooped me on that one), they also drugged him
and had someone tattoo "I like to eat Lego's pieces with my cereal. Dang,
they sure are crunchy!!!" on his forehead. Then the whole band (yes, with
NEW vocalist Pat Benatar) took a picture with James (who was still
unconscious and drooling at the time) and my source also tells me that
they made LOTS of duplicates and autographed photos (minus James'
signature) will be mailed out to all CURRENT (that means "not future," so
if you're not in it now, you're screwed) DTIFC members. And we're talking
poster-size photos here, so you can see James' new tattoo AND his drool
clearly. (Man, those guys in DT are ALWAYS thinking of their fans.)
And there's MORE good news: due to the change in vocalist, EastWest has
decided to get DT into the studio TOMORROW, and the album has been
re-scheduled for release NEXT WEEK. My source says this sudden change of
plans came about because the CEO of EastWest's parent company is
apparently a HUGE Pat Benatar fan and he said he wants a new Benatar CD by
week's end or the entire EastWest management will be fired.
Anyway, like I said, Cyndi Lauper is DEFINITELY not in the band. I know
this 'cuz my source said so and it never lies.
And in the words of George Carlin (hilarious guy, BTW), "OK, that's enough
o' that."
Younis Hilal-------------------------------yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu
--Taken from DTNN (Dream Theater News Network: All-DTNews (tm), All the
Time, that's right, you heard me right, goddammit.)
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 07:00:11 -0500
From: wax@sprynet.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: [Fwd: New Queesnryche Rocks!!]
Message-ID: <330999CB.3E35@sprynet.com>
Message-ID: <33091043.3479@sprynet.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:14:40 -0500
From: wax@sprynet.com
Reply-To: wax@sprynet.com
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To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Queesnryche Rocks!!
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Greetings Jammers,
My name will be new to you, but I've been watching from the shadows and
have some of you to thank for turning me on to some really fantastic new
stuff like Magellan and Cairo while waiting for plugs at East West to
remove their thumbs from their asses.
Anyway, through my various media connections who shall remain anonymous,
I snagged an advance CD copy of "Hear In The Now Frontier," the new
Queensryche album and thought I'd give ya an overview:
Four words to remember: BE PREPARED FOR CHANGE!! I mean R A D I C A
L change. This album is such a far cry from anything they've ever put
out, it may actually scare more than a few fans away, especially those
who jumped on the Empire/Promised Land bandwagon for songs like "Silent
Lucidity" and "Lady Jane." If you are expecting another Empire or
Promised Land, you are in for one BIG sonic wake-up call. The true fans
who have come to EXPECT change will even be blown away by this one. I
sure as hell was!! They cranked the guitars to 11 for this one and
pulled out all the stops!!
Aside from "Sign of the Times" which is almost "Last Time in Paris" with
alternate lyrics, there is nothing to compare this album to although
"Saved" sounds like it could be a <very modernized> outtake from Warning
or Rage. Highlights include the dreamy, yet rockin' radio-ready tracks
"Hero" and "Miles Away" and don't get me wrong "Sign of the Times" does
rock too!
Chris DeGarmo does a fine job filling Geoff's shoes on "All I Want," but
the highlight of the album and my fave new QR tune is the
balls-to-the-wall "Anytime Anywhere" <no pun intended; it is about sex
addiction>. The riffs on this one will really ryche your world and
resonate in your head for hours after ya hear it!! Don't mean to rub
salt in any wounds, but thought I'd prepare you for the experience you
WILL want to have on March 25th...
--
"Can someone please let me know
how we spun out of control?
Has the captain let go of the wheel?"
"Sign of the Times"
Queensryche
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 97 8:10:33 EST
From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>, <cmustard@hic.net>
Subject: re: Michael Harris
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+FaO0nA@tcx.tcco.com>
| If any of you are looking for some excellent prog
| instrumental guitar CD's, you need to hear
| Michael Harris.
I think Michael Harris is an awesome guitar player. I always thought of him
as a shredder, not necessarily progressive... Check out his collaboration
with David "hardest working man in shred-ville" Chastain, "Live, Wild and
Totally Diminished". It's a wild concert filled with some frightening
guitarwork.
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:17:39 -0500
From: Timothy Adams <adamst@egginc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IRC help
Message-ID: <s3096531.067@wasc.egginc.com>
Hey all,
Could a knowledgeable IRC person please contact me??? I've been
trying to get in but am having problems.
Thanks in advance,
Tim
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 97 10:32:31 -0600
From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
To: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
Cc: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT tribute
Message-ID: <3309d9896f35004@cliff.ou.edu>
At 08:31 PM 17/02/97 -0700, you wrote:
Transportation will be a
>>large deciding factor for who plays what on what song. I think we can
>>accomodate everyone on their first or second choices; some, however, will
>>have to duke it out... =)
>
> No. We will screen their tapes and we will decide. No "duking it out."
IT WAS A JOKE, YOU MORON.
>>Third, your idea of deciding the songs before we get a list of musicians is
>>premature.
>
> These musicians need to know what to play, no?
Persons who are plannng this need to know who CAN play the songs. Perhaps
you are so superior on your guitar that you should go replace John Petrucci.
Maybe you should tour with G-3. However, in planning this tribute you MUST
realize that not everyone is as talented as you apparently are, especially
when it comes to the drum lines. If you make a list of songs people can't
play, you're setting yourself up for failure.
>>We are not dream theater, no matter how much any particular
>>jammer can do it is impossible to include a lot of people when others are
>>not able to play certain (or most) songs. For this reason we MUST allow
>>people to tell us what they are able to play. It will not be a list based
>>on votes, but a list based on ability.
>
> Due to the demo tape idea. Jazz, you're making this more
>complicated than it has to be. If you don't stop, I'm asking you to leave.
WHO ARE YOU to ask ME to abandon MY IdEA? Excuse ME, Sir Vincent, YOU are
the one who needs to learn a few things about planning, and if you insist on
making a mess of things, you are going to confuse people and make it hard to
get any support for this in the future.
>>Sixth, I coordinate nationwide (media) events professionally. I know what
>>I'm doing. How old are you, and what is your experience that you feel you
>>are running this whole thing? Do you have any idea of what I normally get
>>PAID for this? For an event like this, I would charge, and get paid, about
>>$800. Just for sitting at my computer doing what I'm doing now.
>
> Don't try to make yourself feel superior to me. I'm not pushing an
>ego on you, but you seem to like to do that to me. If you want to be paid,
>leave. This is non-profit.
My point is that I have a LOT of experience. I never said I wanted to be
paid. If you're reading that into my statement then you need to start
paying closer attention to what people write.
> Then leave. Your dissent could end the whole tribute. You're
>acting like a cancer. You are not necessary to the success of this. Hector
>and the ytsejammer musicians are the only necessity.
This statement is absolutely ridiculous and further exemplifies your
inexperience and naivety. Further, I AM a musician (among other things).
YOUR dissent and insistence on leading people down a twisted and confused
path is NOT going to get this tribute done.
What does it mean to you, Vince? Are you just trying to waive your dick in
the air? I've seen your bloated .sig, so I can guess that your feelings of
impotence must be running rampant right about now. From your past posts on
the jam you seem to feel it's your place to stomp on others instead of a
well-placed non-judgmental statement. Or do you WANT to be a team player,
working WITH other people to pay homage to a band we all love? Are you
acting in a Dream Theater spirit, or just trying to bully your way into a
position you know nothing about?
>>I hope that we can decide to work together:
>
> Not when you send a bitch-out statement like this. This coming just
>after your immature jam posts. You are acting very immature and it needs to
>end if you still want to be a part of this.
1. saying I hope we can work together is bitchy?
2. I'M immature? Read your comments above and meditate on who is being
immature. How old are you anyway?
>>you will be on-site at Hector's
>>studio supervising the recording going on there. You will have more on your
>>hands than I think you realize.
>
> I've recorded before. I know what I'm getting into. Don't
>patronize me. Are you even a musician?
Once again you have not been reading what I wrote. I have placed you as
head of operations in Arizona. That entails much more than just recording
your lines.
>>Please send me your list of availabilities. As soon as the deadline is up,
>>I'll try to get a list broken up by region. I hope/think by that time there
>>will be five recording centers, and with the Power of Omen tape that should
>>do it.
>
>THERE IS NO DEADLINE!!! WE HAVEN'T BEGUN SCREENING TAPES YET!!!
>WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH?
There IS a deadline to volunteer, at which point we will begin accepting
tapes. The heads of operation at the (now SIX) studios will be the ones who
screen the tapes, trying to work people together into ensembles.
I might point out to you that with six studios one could easily be dropped
from the list. You might reconsider your nasty opinion.
>We need to keep this off the 'jam -- people are unsubscribing because of
>>this. I promise to not leave you out.
>
> I promise to leave you out if you keep acting like this. You're a
>cancer. Have you read all the jams that basically say to you to leave?
>Read your jams please.
I have NOT seen any of the sort. Rather, I keep getting mail that says,
"Vince is such an overbearing shit, he wants to screw this up, PLEASE try to
regain control over it, you are knowledgeable and seem to have a good plan.
PLEASE don't let Vince screw this up, we want a tribute album."
> Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
May Satan eat your children if you ever send me this .sig again.
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End of YTSEJAM Digest 2285
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