YTSEJAM Digest 2148
Today's Topics:
1) SG#1 order from MC
by Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
2) Live at the Middle East! (fwd)
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
3) You rang?
by Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com>
4) Re: CD questions on Angra/Symphony X
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
5) Dream Theater new song
by metal@mail.tij.cetys.mx (Juan Manuel Valverde Jaime)
6) Happy 1997!
by "Rudy van IJzendoorn" <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl>
7) Kevin Moore
by jbrett@ultranet.com (Brett Lefebvre)
8) happy ytse-new year
by Drummnstan@aol.com
9) DT Inspired Recomendations
by Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
10) I'm sorry
by Erik Stearns <stearns@bga.com>
11) Re: I'm sorry
by Drummnstan@aol.com
12) oh yeah.. about that cow hating thing... and re: i'm sorry
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
13) 1 9 9 7
by "Jonathan Dery" <metropolis@net1plus.com>
14) Re: oh yeah.. about that cow hating thing... and re: i'm sorry
by Drummnstan@aol.com
15) Re: I'm sorry
by Vincent LuPone <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
16) Private e-mail. (whoops...NDTC)
by Vincent LuPone <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
17) FW: I'm sorry
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
18) Re: Kevin Moore
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 16:03:47 -0600
From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
To: "'bduesterhoeft@enter.net'" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
Cc: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: SG#1 order from MC
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/000E0B69@msb01ncadctmsge.ameridata.com>
>>>>Did anyone order the first album of Shadow Gallery and Magellan from
Magna Carta? Did you receive the CD's or a returned check. Or heard from
MC?
>>>just curious I haven't heard anything yet.....
I sent cheque about 3-4 weeks ago for SG#1; sent email to MC last Friday
(12/27). Haven't heard back on either yet.-Randall Braun
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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 17:32:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Yitz-say-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Live at the Middle East! (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.961231173130.21151B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Wanted to pass this along to you ytsefreaks.
m.
Hi all,
finneus gauge will be playing at the Middle East in Philadelphia, PA on
Saturday, February 8, 1997. Details to follow...
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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:37:05 -0800
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: You rang?
Message-ID: <199612312237.OAA16923@m5.sprynet.com>
> But every time this comes up, someone will fire off the ridiculous
>notion that the two bands sound nothing alike, which ends up hurting the
>credibility of the "Dream Theater as a unique band" argument.
That person's usually me. :) And every time I do, I ask for examples of
Dream Theater sounding similar to Rush (i.e., this song sounds like that
song at that part). And every time I do THAT, no one gives any. Except for
Bombay Vindaloo to Xanadu...which doesn't count, because BV's an improv. :)
Ben's Recommendation: Ozric Tentacles! These guys RULE! Muzt buy CDs. :)
Does anyone else besides me find it disturbing that Jon Anderson's voice
sounds EGGZACTLY the same as it did 20+ years ago? I find it quite frightening.
Also on the Yes subject.....Alan White should NOT be allowed to play Bill
Bruford stuff.
>>I was impressed though by the opening act Bela Fleck and the Flecktones.
>>I dont know how to describe this band jazz, fusion, prog
No fair. When I saw DMB, the opening act was G-Love and Special Sauce. They
sucked royally. The guy sat on a stool the whole time flapping his legs
around like he was tryin' to fly with them. I felt sorry for the drummer,
tho...he's playin' on his lil five piece, and right behind him, Carter
Beauford's humongousosity of a drumkit's looming ominously over him making
him look demeaningly small. Either way, DMB kicked major assholio. Best
part: All Along the Watchtower. I feel blessed......when i saw them at
HORDE, they had John Popper come out and play with them. After that song, I
had enough stool, semen and urine samples in my pants that if you sent it to
a lab for identification.....damn! That was a great start for a joke, but I
can't think of a punchline. Help! :)
Gotta go...later.
Ben Laussade
***********WANTED**********
15 year old mute, Asian bass prodigy!
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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 17:06:15 PST
From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: CD questions on Angra/Symphony X
Message-ID: <199701010011.AAA91821@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 12/31/96 1:28pm -0800
Randall,
Dude, you just picked up on a mistake that I made. I jumped
the gun, I should have gotten the Holy Land plus Bonus Diss.
The Bonus disc his called Live at the FNAC. It's 3 acoustic
songs that I've never heard and it has the band speaking in
french to the crowd. It sounds great actually, the songs were
pretty cool as well. The Holy Land cd though, is the japanese
release that has 1 extra song and I can't remember what one it
is. I think it's Queen of the Night (no, Not ryche like I
thought at first hehe:) Anyways, you should order that...OR
you can forget the 3 extra tracks and do what I did.
There's an ep called "Freedom Call" that has 6 songs. It has a
cover of Judas Priest's Painkiller (which is actually pretty
good, guitars are amazing) and it also has Queen of the Night
on it. Full track listing is as follows:
1>Freedom Call - Good song...totally Prog, dt like as well
2>Queen of the Night - remixed version, I can't tell a
difference between this and the album version
3>Reaching Horizons - a really kick ass song
4>Stand Away - another great song
5>Pain Killer - pretty damn good as I said before, Andre can't
really do the halford vocals all that well but in some parts,
he can reach the high notes. This song is out of his vocal
range though. The band really coulda tuned down for this song,
cause another whole step down would have made a world of
difference.
6>Deep Blue: A VERY VERY VERY cool edit of the album version.
It cuts the song off just after the solo and fades out.
Instead of the album length of 6 minutes or so, this version
is only 3:55.
The Holy Land/Bonus disc has some cool shit though. A REALLY
nice bio, packaging etc...In fact, All of the Holy Land stuff
has excellent quality packaging and some killer artwork.
So, it's up to you, I think I made a good choice with getting
the ep and the regular album, since I get more songs but I
dunno, you can get the other if you like as well, ain't my
cash. Either way you'll like it. The most diverse kick ass
band I've ever heard since DT and Maidens new one hehe.
Speaking of which, I also saw the new Savatage best of cd,
almost seems worth buying, especially for the second disc. If
anyone can tell me, where is the live version of Sirens taken
from? I also picked up Gamma Ray's Silent Miracles ep (or is
it a single) and it's really fucking cool. Mostly
ballads/acoustic stuff on it. I dig it.
Merry new year Ytse-Heads
Mark
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msmeets@zeek.murlin.com --
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@------>--->---
Some people lose their faith because Heaven shows them to little. Others lose their
faith because Heaven shows them too much. - The Prophecy -- I don't believe in
coincidence
@------>--->---
I guide you through the sea of nightmares called existance and lead you to the
sanctuary where a haven exists only to those who have lost hope and this is called
earth but to those who have hope, stand alone outside this haven guarding it alone.
-M.S.
@------>--->---
I stand at the promised land with Fire In my Eyes!
W.A.S.P. - The Crimson Idol
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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 16:24:13 -0800
From: metal@mail.tij.cetys.mx (Juan Manuel Valverde Jaime)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream Theater new song
Message-ID: <19970101002412237.AAA363@serial2.tij.cetys.mx>
well, i just got in the ytse jam a couple of weeks ago, and FINALLY, y get a
place
were people know what music is....
well now the comment.....
the thing is that before i got in this place, a friend of mine told me he heard
a new Dream Theater song on the radio.... he said that the guy on the radio said
"what you just heard is a sneak peak at what the new dt album is going to
sound..."
and now i read that the album isnt even recorded, and the first thing i say,
how the hell did he hear that?!?? could this be truth?? i belive him
because he is one of my closest friends and couldnt be lying...but...did they
fool him...or has a dream theater song been recorded, even as a demo???
Juan Manuel Valverde
Tijuana B.C., Mexico
"seize the day...."
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 03:51:46 +0100
From: "Rudy van IJzendoorn" <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Happy 1997!
Message-ID: <m0vfH1F-000DlQC@parijs.tip.nl>
Hey you jammers :-)
I want to wish you all the very best for 1997, may your wishes all come
true!!!!
Here are some things that make me sure that 1997 will be a very good year:
1) Of course, the new DT album.
2) Of course, DT on tour, worldwide that is :-)
3) Of course, the new DT album.
4) Of course, DT on tour, worldwide that is :-)
oh yeah, and
5) hehe There's a new Megadeth album coming out :-)
Again, HAPPY 1997 :-)
Rudy van IJzendoorn, maintainer of Under A Cyber Moon Website.
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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:23:37 -0500 (EST)
From: jbrett@ultranet.com (Brett Lefebvre)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kevin Moore
Message-ID: <199701010423.XAA32488@lucius.ultra.net>
Just sitting and listening to Awake...And I was wondering does Kevin Moore
sing on Space-Dye Vest...?
Carpe Diem my friends
Bret
"Nowhere to set my aim,
so I'm everywhere" -Space-Dye Vest
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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:36:10 -0500
From: Drummnstan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: happy ytse-new year
Message-ID: <961231233610_843248543@emout18.mail.aol.com>
just wishing a happy new year to the jam and all that read it, as we wait for
the NEW DT CD
laterz,
stan
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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 14:56:56 -0800
From: Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT Inspired Recomendations
Message-ID: <32CAEBB8.704A@connexus.apana.org.au>
RICOCHET - Among the Elements
T&T Records 1995
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* EDDY M *
Beat Magazine
Rock n Hard column
Melbourne, Australia
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:30:41 -0800
From: Erik Stearns <stearns@bga.com>
To: AIX post <aix-l@pucc.princeton.edu>,
Subject: I'm sorry
Message-ID: <32BD7041.7FFC@bga.com>
To whom this may concern and who is reading this,
I can't go on due to my own failure in myself and others. I tried.
My wife, Lynelle has left me just because I ran out of medication and
overstepped my bounds in a corrective action that I deemed and still
believe to be right in protecting the life of our sheltie. But because
of my mistake I have a class A misdimeener warrent along with another
due to Lynelle not taking me to my final court apperence for clearing
of a hot check matter.
I have no money left because when she separated, she cleaned out the
account we had and took the settlement money we had bought a brand new
Ford Thunderbird, leaving me with no transportation, money or even
without a job in which she does'nt have the common descency to give
me a way to. Because of that, I now have no job, no rent money, no
money, no food, no way to pay bills, no way out exept to do something
O.J. Simpson had not the balls to do: that was to take matters into
my own hands for the good of the people. Just like in the old war and
spy movies. I am a trator to what I had hoped to stand for and what
my dreams have been and what others had wanted. Because of my treason,
I elect to invoke upon myself the death penalty.
In order to acheave this, I will take the half bottle of depacote
and some vitamons that I have around here with a bottle of Aleve, and
some Nyquil, washed down with a few Long Island Teas.
I am sorry if I have ruined your holiday season, but I cannot let
things go on without my side of the hell that is reased go untold. It
has been a pleasure talking to sometimes knowing and working with, and
knowing you all.
Thank you.
P.S.
Tell her, My family, Our dogs: Randy, Christy and the four pups
that I love them very much, but I have failed and thay don't need
someone like me to be a huge burden on them. Also tell them I'm so
sorry.
-- An Open mind is the thriving of a society while the closed mind is the downfall of the same. For in Saroks's words, "The spear in the others's heart is the spear in your own. You are he."-- From the "Freedom" Speech to Larion's Congress
Erik Stearns Starblazer Enterprises Inc. (512)719-1252 Fax: (512) 719-1066 stearns@bga.com
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 01:33:42 -0500 From: Drummnstan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: I'm sorry Message-ID: <970101013341_1655345456@emout11.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 1/1/97 6:13:25 AM, you wrote:
<< In order to acheave this, I will take the half bottle of depacote and some vitamons that I have around here with a bottle of Aleve, and some Nyquil, washed down with a few Long Island Teas.
I am sorry if I have ruined your holiday season, but I cannot let things go on without my side of the hell that is reased go untold. It has been a pleasure talking to sometimes knowing and working with, and knowing you all. >>
jesus christ, is this guy for real, if not this is a real cruel FU@#ING joke. jesus, i mean come on i hope this isnt true, a little help here..................even if this is true, good god someone should help this guy i was in a serious prediciment last year and was about to end my life, (was blindfolded, in my car at edge of a river ready to nail gas pedal of car into water ) but i got help. somehow theres a way this guy can get help.........If this isnt a joke, if it is someone has a fucked up sense of humor
stan
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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 01:19:12 -0600 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: oh yeah.. about that cow hating thing... and re: i'm sorry Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970101071912.006a9658@mail.inlink.com>
PSYCH!!!!!! new years fools boys and girls, you wont catch this boy hatin' cows anytime soon :) sorry.
as for Erik Stearns.. this letter sent chills all through me, i just cant think this is a joke.. i urge everyone to reach out, just drop a quick email at the least, that includes myself, we cant lose another one in this insane raging war we call earth.
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 02:39:49 -0500 From: "Jonathan Dery" <metropolis@net1plus.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 1 9 9 7 Message-ID: <32CA14C5.4FB7@net1plus.com>
Its a satisfying thought knowing that the new Dream Theater album will be released THIS YEAR!!! Have a happy and prosperous year everybody.
- Jon Dery
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 05:13:40 -0500 From: Drummnstan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: oh yeah.. about that cow hating thing... and re: i'm sorry Message-ID: <970101051337_1558139139@emout12.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 1/1/97 7:34:23 AM, you wrote:
<< as for Erik Stearns.. this letter sent chills all through me, i just cant think this is a joke.. i urge everyone to reach out, just drop a quick email at the least, that includes myself, we cant lose another one in this insane raging war we call earth.
~Rip>>
i along with rip have emailed mr stearns and hop i wasnt too late, man i was in this boat B4 and got out, thank good i did, couse i wouldnt have seen my neice born or be her godfather, erik if your readin this take it from someone whose been down that road and taken a u-turn, please DON'T DO IT, get some help, i am willing to bet that anyone on this mailing list would be more than willing to point you in the direction of someone who can help you.
please respond stan
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 03:37:33 -0700 From: Vincent LuPone <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: I'm sorry Message-ID: <199701011037.DAA77166@kitts.u.arizona.edu>
ERIC!!!
What are you saying?! Killing yourself is always the wrong thing to do. DOn't do it man! You've got people down here that know and care for you and most importantly---people that love you.
Most importantly, Jesus loves you man!! He wouldn't want to see you go out like this. He still has plans for you and you need to know that what ever problems you have now, they are temporary problems. We all get new jobs, new cars, new girls. It's just a cycle of life. This cycle happens to everyone in one form or another. Sometimes it hits certain people harder than others, but you've gotta find the power within yourself to resist taking the easy way out and killing yourself. That power is your heart, mind and soul with God's help. You've got it in you.
I know you do.
Peace be with you and God bless you. You are in my prayers.
May God always be with you, And may love be in your life forever. Amen.
~Vince
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 03:42:37 -0700 From: Vincent LuPone <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Private e-mail. (whoops...NDTC) Message-ID: <199701011042.DAA75984@kitts.u.arizona.edu>
I'm sorry I sent that last letter to the list. It was supposed to be private e-mail, but I hit the SEND button prematurely. Oh well.
Eric, I hope you're here to read this.
Peace be with you all and God bless,
~Vince
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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 03:32:07 -0800 From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com Subject: FW: I'm sorry Message-ID: <199701011132.DAA00060@ms.kallback.com>
SOMEBODY CALL THIS GUY, NOW!! HIS PHONE IS (512)719-1252. IT'S IN TEXAS. I WOULD BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. IF YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS OR KNOW SOMEBODY TRAINED TO DEAL WITH THIS KIND OF SITUATION PLEASE CALL HIM!
ERIC DON'T DO IT ! WERE HERE FOR YOU! ----------
To whom this may concern and who is reading this,
I can't go on due to my own failure in myself and others. I tried. My wife, Lynelle has left me just because I ran out of medication and overstepped my bounds in a corrective action that I deemed and still believe to be right in protecting the life of our sheltie. But because of my mistake I have a class A misdimeener warrent along with another due to Lynelle not taking me to my final court apperence for clearing of a hot check matter.
I have no money left because when she separated, she cleaned out the account we had and took the settlement money we had bought a brand new Ford Thunderbird, leaving me with no transportation, money or even without a job in which she does'nt have the common descency to give me a way to. Because of that, I now have no job, no rent money, no money, no food, no way to pay bills, no way out exept to do something O.J. Simpson had not the balls to do: that was to take matters into my own hands for the good of the people. Just like in the old war and spy movies. I am a trator to what I had hoped to stand for and what my dreams have been and what others had wanted. Because of my treason, I elect to invoke upon myself the death penalty.
In order to acheave this, I will take the half bottle of depacote and some vitamons that I have around here with a bottle of Aleve, and some Nyquil, washed down with a few Long Island Teas.
I am sorry if I have ruined your holiday season, but I cannot let things go on without my side of the hell that is reased go untold. It has been a pleasure talking to sometimes knowing and working with, and knowing you all.
Thank you.
P.S.
Tell her, My family, Our dogs: Randy, Christy and the four pups that I love them very much, but I have failed and thay don't need someone like me to be a huge burden on them. Also tell them I'm so sorry.
-- An Open mind is the thriving of a society while the closed mind is the downfall of the same. For in Saroks's words, "The spear in the others's heart is the spear in your own. You are he."
-- From the "Freedom" Speech to Larion's Congress
Erik Stearns Starblazer Enterprises Inc. (512)719-1252 Fax: (512) 719-1066 stearns@bga.com
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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 09:57:22 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Kevin Moore Message-ID: <32CA7B52.20F7@caribe.net>
Brett Lefebvre wrote: > > Just sitting and listening to Awake...And I was wondering does Kevin Moore > sing on Space-Dye Vest...? > > Carpe Diem my friends > > Bret > > "Nowhere to set my aim, > so I'm everywhere" -Space-Dye Vest
hehe No.. James sounds really different huh? Its still James.. i take it you havent heard Kevin sing in his chromakey demo's? his voice is really "different" .. hehe
-- Seize the day, I heard him say : "Life will not always be this way, Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... " <Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons> WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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