YTSEJAM Digest 2203
Today's Topics:
1) New Metal Edge (heavy DTC!!!)
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2202
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
3) Jason Becker's cd..
by Irene Raceu <majesty@voyager.net>
4) Re: New Purchases
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
5) Birch Hill Age Restrictions
by robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
6) Jason Becker sound clips?
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
7) Re: Jaymz 'n Larz
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
8) Pix of the Dream Theater in Monterrey
by yanos <yanos@netwizards.net>
9) DT Homepages
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
10) This is REALLY getting out of hand!
by JeFF HoCHBeRG <grin@albany.net>
11) Re: Whatever happened to the "rules" of YTSEjam? (i.e. - fag)
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
12) DT live performances on CD
by Steve Godbout <sgodbout@microtec.net>
13) Ytsejam Information
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
14) Re: why Rush dropped T&M :(
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:57:01 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Metal Edge (heavy DTC!!!)
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970118191403.45126B-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
Greetings. Not that I want to interrupt the fruitful discussion of
Kirk Hammett's sexual orientation, but for a quick moment I'd like to
relate the following DTC that appears in the new issue of Metal Edge.
Those of you not interested in such nonsense can continue your discussion:
After spending the bulk of 1996 writing as a band, DREAM THEATER
are finally ready to start recording in anticipation of a summer release.
"We have enough material at this point, and we're itching to go," said
drummer Mike Portnoy. "Things keep getting pushed and everything, and I
think a lot of the personnel changes at the label have delayed things,
but I think we're ready to go. I'm going to try and fight for a double
album, but it's yet to be seen if that will actually happen. If it ends
up getting cut to a single album, we'll fill it to the max- 75 minutes.
Whatever's left we could use as either an EP, in between albums, or
b-sides and stuff.
In contrast to the recording of their previous albums, Portnoy
said he'd like to record this album one song at a time, rather than one
instrument at a time. "That was it's not one drum sound on the whole
album and one guitar sound on the whole album, each song can have a
different feel, a different sound, and a different identity," he said.
"Also, it will really keep us focused on one song at a time and help the
band's vibe, for us to always be together." The project will be
keyboardist Derek Sherinian's first since joining the band for the AWAKE
tour. "There was never any questioning his playing ability, that's the
reason he got the gig to begin with. The next question was his writing
ability, and he's a great asset to the band's writing. He's got a lot of
ideas ready to explode becausde, for so many years, he was a hired gun
with KISS and Alice Cooper and he was never really able to contribute
musical ideas. Now he's got 30 years of ideas ready to come out."
Until the summer release, Portnoy can be heard on the Rush
tribute album WORKING MAN, where he played drums on six tracks and was
credited as the album's Creative Consultant, gathering musicians and
putting the song list together. Singer James LaBrie provided vocals for
two tracks on the Queen Tribute, DRAGON ATTACK, "Sheer Heart Attack" and
"One Vision" (where Portnoy played a part in the production, recording
the vocals. Guitarist John Petrucci also appears on the Queen album,
lending his six-string to "Another One Bites The Dust." "We've been out
of the public eye for a year and a half now," said Portnoy, "but we feel
confident enough in the material that we can go to the next level with
the new album."
AND THEN LATER ON.....
Clinics are nothing new for Dream Theater drummer Mike Portnoy and
guitarist John Petrucci, but when the bandmates appeared together at
Tuxedo Junction, in Danbury, CT., it was the first workshop of its kind
on American soil. "We did a few clinics in Europe together in March, but
that was the only US clinic we've ever done with me and John together,"
said Portnoy a few days after the Nov. 25 event, which was sponsored by
the East Coast Music Mall. "I've done almost 100 clinics in the past year
and a half that the band's been off the road. It keeps the band's name
alive , and I can test the new material at the clinics- fans are getting
to hear the new material, getting a Dream Theater fi while we work on the
album, and hopefully learning something as well."
In Portnoy's portion of the clinic, he detailed the use of time
signatures and how he manipulates them in Dream Theater's songs. To
demonstrate, he drummed to a tape of "Just Let Me Breathe," a new track
that was written as a response to the current state of the music
industry, and to an instrumental track of "Raise The Knife," another new
cut. "I'd like to take this opportunity to field some questions, since
that's not something we usually do at our gigs," he joked before
answering a series of questions from the crowd. His advise to aspiring
drummers? "Don't try and imitate other players- do what's best for you,
that's how you get your own style." And when asked where he does his best
writing? "I've written some of my best parts on the toilet, the acoustics
are great."
After starting his portion of the clinic by detailing his warmup
techniques to the guitar players on hand, Petrucci went into a
demontration of scales and how he breaks them down and restructures them
to create his "signature" sound. "Once I come up with a technique, I just
mutate the idea," he said, scattering his explanations with "all you do,"
"everybody got that?" and "that's it." "You're finding out what I'm all
about, and it's not that much," he said to the wide-eyed crowd. "When
you break down what I'm doing, it's really quite simple." Why did it
seemlike he was the only person there that believed that!?
AND UNDER THE PICTURES (one of Mike playing, one of John playing, and one
of the two together)
In addition to the tribute albums that are detailed in the '97
preview and reviewed in Playback, Mike and John kept busy with other
projects during Dream Theater's down time last year. Mike can be found on
the LESSONS WITH THE GREATS VOL.III instructional drumming video, and
John wrote and recorded two songs for Sega video games. The band plans on
entering the studio to record their fourth studio album later this month.
Clinics weren't always easy for Mike Portnoy. "I shied away from
clinics for a long time," he explained, "I was intimidated. I finally got
cornered to do a couple in Germany, and I figured, 'What the f.ck, they
can't understand me anyway , I'll test it out.' It felt really
comfortable, I realized that all I had to do was go up there and be
myself and that's all they wanted to see." Mike and his wife Marlene are
expecting their first child in May. If it's a girl, Mike wants to name
her Randi, a cross between his mother's and grandmother's names. They
still haven't decided on a boy's name.
John Petrucci opened his portion of the clinic with "Lost Without
You," a song he wrote for his wife. John and Mike jammed together before
and after their portions of the clinic were done.
Richie
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 97 19:41:45 -0600
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2202
Message-ID: <32e17bd9556b365@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
> BTW, the word "fag" is probably just as insulting to those who are gay as
> racial slang would be to different ethnic groups.
You'd be surprised. At the university I attend, they openly call themselves
queer, and put up posters all over the place about the queer events. Pretty
wierd. I never understood the concept of self-imposed segregation.
-Brian Hayden
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"There must be a third and last dance, this one will last forever...
The third is love, love is the dance of eternity." - Dream Theater
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:53:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Irene Raceu <majesty@voyager.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jason Becker's cd..
Message-ID: <199701190153.UAA01891@vixa.voyager.net>
>>Just wondering, for snyone who has bought Jason'r "Perspective", where
>>you bought it, if it wasn't directly from him.
Well, it is available in stores now... here in MI I found it at Harmony
House. I don't know if that's a nationwide chain though. Blockbuster Music
may also carry it since they do carry a great selection of music. I have
seen Perpetual Burn there, so I don't see why they wouldn't carry
Perspective. You can also try asking them to order it in for you if it's
not in stock.
I myself got it straight from Jason as soon as I heard of it's release. I
got the cd within a month... actually, just a few weeks, so I was really
happy with the service. If you want to give that a try, check out his web
site at: http://www.guitarists.com/. Really, to anyone who wondered about
ordering it by mail... I did get it within a few weeks so it looks like he
and his management are very reputable. I know I don't usually trust mail
order services, but in this case I found it to be good.
It's really great to see more people getting into Jason's music. :) Hope
you find it real soon :)
Take care,
Irene
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:05:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: New Purchases
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970118205949.1675A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Well, I went to what I thought would be a shit-splat music store in the
shit-splat town I live in to try to find some used CD's from jammers'
reccomendations. Imagine my astonishment to find Savatage's Streets, DT's
Awake (I know iknow, I should have gotten that long long ago, but I'm
poor,) and Tony Macalpine's Edges of Insanity. Here's what I think. I
always loved Macalpine's albom. It's wonderful, but not as good as his
later stuff. Awake is godly. I love Erotomania. Tage? Hmm... Well,
the musicians have a fare amount of talent. I wasn't blown away. I wish
the vocalist wouldn't growl quite so much. He has a beautiful clear
voice. And my god, talk about accents. Can you say east-coast? It's a
good disc, though, and I'm glad I got it. Not quite what I expected,
which is pretty much prog stuff. I love the keyboard though. Very
beautiful piano playing. Not shred, but I think it's growing on me.
Thanks, people. Be well.
Matt B
P.S. I have several queer friends and, honestly, there's really not a
damned thing wrong with them. Why would you care what someone sleeps with
unless they want to sleep with you?
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 22:23:24 -0500
From: robert.henderson@ICDC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Birch Hill Age Restrictions
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.12.11.-10.23.24.2510543059.407581@bbs.icdc.com>
For a soon-to-be 18-year-old (but not soon enough) like me, these dire
stories of turnaways at the door are quite alarming. So far, I've heard
about 4 different *definitive* answers to the question: will they be
carding at Birch Hill? I've heard everything from "no carding, unless
drinks are wanted" to "you will be turned away, no question about it".
Please, somebody (or multiple somebodies) clear this up for me.
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap
robert.henderson@icdc.com
"That's no head, Max! It's one damned ugly timebomb!" -- Sam, 'Sam &
Max Hit The Road'
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:39:11 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jason Becker sound clips?
Message-ID: <199701190339.WAA19053@umbc10.umbc.edu>
Anyone know where I might be able to check out some
Jason Becker soundclips on the web? I've been searching
for a while but haven't found any yet.
Thanks!
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/------------------------------
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:43:24 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Jaymz 'n Larz Message-ID: <199701190343.UAA59086@kitts.u.arizona.edu>
At 07:48 AM 1/18/97 -0800, you wrote: > In response to the paragraph above, no I don't think that Kirk is a >fag. Where did you hear this? I don't think that James and Lars would >allow such a thing. If he was you would have heard him on one album only, >then they would have replaced him with a much better guitarist. Later, J > I don't think any of us know Jaymz and Lars well enough to make this assumption. If any one does, I'd like to meet'em.
Laterz,
Peace be with you and God bless.
~Vince
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:48:17 -0800 From: yanos <yanos@netwizards.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Pix of the Dream Theater in Monterrey Message-ID: <32E19981.C7C@netwizards.net>
Attention Jammers wanting pix of the DT:
i have found my photos and have given them to a friend to scan in for me. i expect to have them by this coming friday and they should be in JPEG format. if you have already sent me mail requesting these files, i think three files/pix total, then you need not do anything but be patient. if you have not mailed me about a request or missed my first and only post then now is you chance to do so. to request these pix simply email me with "DREAM THEATER PIX REQUEST" in the subject line and nothing in the body of the letter.
cheers-
yanos
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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 13:55:49 +1000 From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Homepages Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970119035549.0066c43c@powerup.com.au>
Hiyis
I'm thinking of creating a DT homepage of my very own.
Before you say anything, yes, I know that every man (and woman) and his (and her) proverbial dog has one, but seeing as I'm not one to avoid jumping on the bandwagon I thought I'd try it out as well.
I'd like any suggestions on what to have on it. No offence to everyone who has DT pages of their own, but a lot of them seem to be pretty much alike with one or two rare exceptions, and I was wondering if there was anything different that you'd like to see. Anything you want to be able to see? anything you'd like to download?
Please let me know via private email, I'm really interested in starting a page but I want it to stand apart from the rest.
Thanks!
Spiff
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 23:07:12 -0500 (EST) From: JeFF HoCHBeRG <grin@albany.net> To: Ytsejam mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: This is REALLY getting out of hand! Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970118230210.783A-100000@magik.albany.net>
My ultimate DT cover band would consist entirely of flambouyantly gay Kirk Hammett look-alikes.
Jeff
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:22:14 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Whatever happened to the "rules" of YTSEjam? (i.e. - fag) Message-ID: <199701190432.VAA07521@cyberhighway.net>
> How many people have the "Bridge" single CD by Queensryche? Does that > kick ass or what!? I LOVE the full-band rendition of Someone Else. They > should've put that on "promised land". Anyway, this QR comment is > perhaps real old (cause I've had this CD for months), but I just wanted > to change the subject and leave on a good note (pun intended....)
Aye. It rulz! Personally though, I tend to lean toward the piano version or the live version I have with the piano and guitar going. me thinks tis kewl. :)
BTW, is there a midi of this anywhere? I've been intending on learning this and a midi would be helpful. It's not hard, really, I just get bored figuring these things out myself... (Piano part, I learned the guitar parts for the FB version)
Later! KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore) ibanez@cyberhighway.net "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to." --David Arkenstone
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 23:29:06 -0500 From: Steve Godbout <sgodbout@microtec.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT live performances on CD Message-ID: <32E1A312.5047@microtec.net>
Hi there!
I've been reading the list on and off for a year or so and I have an unanswered question on my mind concerning the live performances James Labrie gave on LATM a ACOS.
I own a few bootlegs (WDATU, Wake Up and Tragedy/Comedy) featuring Labrie as lead signer. I must say that I am VERY disapointed by his performances, especially with I&W and earlier stuff. It seems to me that for Awake, he tried to stay within the range his voice would allow in a live performance and that gave a much more "acceptable" product for the "Waking Up the World" tour. Every live version of Another Day I have is just to horrible to listen to, even if it was only for the musical performances of the other members. Now, I am not trying to bash the guy but let's face it, in the studio, he can really sing but on the stage, that's another story.
You (almost) would'nt know it from LATM and ACOS though. Except for Pull Me Under on LATM, his singing is pretty clean. So, that brings my question up. There must have been overdubs for these albums. Does anybody here have any info on that?
I for one sure hopes this situation will improve for the next tour...
Just wondering,
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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 00:00:03 -0500 From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytsejam Information Message-ID: <199701190500.AAA00355@wicked.stigmata.org>
(IF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU ARE SEEING THIS POST, PLEASE READ IT THROUGH COMPLETELY, THERE IS ALOT OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION)
Hey All ....
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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:51:49 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: why Rush dropped T&M :( Message-ID: <199701190502.WAA11755@cyberhighway.net>
> that's how you get your own style." And when asked where he does his > best writing? "I've written some of my best parts on the toilet, the > acoustics are great."
Heh? See I told you I can get better sounds farting in a toilet! My toilet must be bigger and get a fuller, deeper snare or something. :)
> seen Half the World dropped from the set rather than either T&M or Resist (I > do like Resist a lot as well). I guess, if nothing else I can hope that DT > will now cover T&M during their up coming tour (HINT HINT) - sorry Korg!! :) > > Scott Hansen > curth@execpc.com
Actually, the song is starting to grow on me. I wonder if DT, however, would actually try to cover a Rush song after what happened before. Anyway, I'd rather still see DT play just DT songs. There songs are so freakin long that they can't get enough of em in at one concert. Can't wait!
>RE: Al Pitrelli?
> Hey everybody > > I picked up the Asia album _Alpha_ today, and found a familiar name in the > credits. The electric guitar stuff is done by a guy named Al Pitrelli > (Steve Howe plays some accoustic and various other stringed things). Did > his name turn up on the 'Jam at one time, or am I completely out to lunch on > this?
Heheh, the album must be Aqua, then. This is my fave of the Asia albums. As with Al Pitrelli, you have heard him mentioned on the jam as he plays in a "fun" band with Derek Sherinian calle Ethyl Mertz. I guess he wasn't proud of his work with Asia which is a disappointment to me, cuz i really love it. He's played for Savatage on the last two albums and played the guitars on the Trans-Siberian Orchestra side-project. He also played with Dee Snider in Widowmaker, I believe. He's a great guitar player and deserves more recognition methinks. There's the beans on him anyway. :)
Tis all! KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore) ibanez@cyberhighway.net "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to." --David Arkenstone
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