YTSEJAM digest 2199

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Date: Sat Jan 18 1997 - 03:00:49 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 2199

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2195
     by dancount@eros.rdc.puc-rio.br (DANIELLE HERDY PORTUGAL (a))
      2) DT Couver Baund
     by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2198
     by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
      4) Re: Cover band
     by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
      5) Re: DT Covers Line-Up
     by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
      6) Re: CD availability
     by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
      7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2198
     by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
      8) "is Neil gay?"
     by Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
      9) Cobain
     by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
     10) HomoHammett ;o
     by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
     11) Re: Cover Band
     by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
     12) Re: Nervana in the Nineties
     by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
     13) WHat ever happened to Zebra?
     by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
     14) DT Cover Band
     by Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@CompuServe.COM>
     15) I like alternative music because band's like Dream Theatre just want to copy Rush and show off and have no feel whatsoever.
     by "Jonathan Dery" <metropolis@net1plus.com>
     16) All the women stuff.
     by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
     17) Bootleg date mix-up
     by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
     18) My new and improved DT cover band
     by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
     19) Re: DT Cover Band
     by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
     20) Re: "is Neil gay?"
     by Drummnstan@aol.com
     21) Tiles mailing list
     by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
     22) The retroactive sensitivity of a fertile, converted turtle-Smurf
     by Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:38:28 -0300 (BSC)
    From: dancount@eros.rdc.puc-rio.br (DANIELLE HERDY PORTUGAL (a))
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2195
    Message-ID: <9701180138.AA16337@eros.rdc.puc-rio.br>

    I' like to know if anyone of ya know where I can find any information
    about Skid Row? If ya know, please, email me privately.

                                 Thanks!!!!!!!

                                   Danny "GARBAGE/TIGRESA" Lane

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:34:10 -0500
    From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
    To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: DT Couver Baund
    Message-ID: <32E02892.7F92@enter.net>

    Well if everyone else is doing why can't I?

    Vocals: Geoff Tate
    Guitar(s): Joe Satriani/Steve Vai/Jimmy Paige
    Keyboards: Gary Wehrkamp (Shadow Gallery)
    Bass: Chris Squire
    Drums/Percussion: Neil Peart

    I would have put Rick Wakeman for keys, but I believe only one band
    member from each band should be allowed, 'cause I think I would have put
    Stu Hamm for bass, but he plays with Satch and Vai.

    Bruce D.

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:39:23 -0500 (EST)
    From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2198
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970117203817.7801B-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>

    Is it true that Kirk Hammet is a fag???? I heard it a few times in the
    past week...and hey is new look reflects it...I was just curious if
    anyone out there knows...email me and let me know thanks!!!

    Dan

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:38:50 +0000
    From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
    To: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>, ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Cover band
    Message-ID: <199701180149.SAA25199@cyberhighway.net>

    > Drums - Bill Ward (Sabbath)

    Hey, all...

    I've been meaning to ask this, but I'm looking for this guy's solo
    album. It had alot of really cool stuff on it and I found it's been
    unavailable as of... uh... a long time ago. It had cool people
    jammin with him, especially the Ozzy track, Bombers (Open Bombay
    doors). I've only heard the thing once from a college bud I've lost
    contact with and never got a copy. If someone could direct me to a
    place that sells 'em or get me a dub, I'd be eternally grateful.
    (Well, maybe for a while at least. :)

    Thankumz!
    KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
          ibanez@cyberhighway.net
    "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
                                                  --David Arkenstone

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:25:43 +0000
    From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
    To: "Eddie J Cooper" <eddie@abacus.co.uk>, ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: DT Covers Line-Up
    Message-ID: <199701180136.SAA23131@cyberhighway.net>

    > Make up a band of 5 members, each member must incorporate 2
    > musicians, that don't neccessarily play the same instrument, but you
    > feel have compatible but strange influences that would create some
    > kind of cool musical innovation...
    >
    > I'm gonna think on this one for a while...

    Hrm.. Let's see...

    Vocals -- James LaBrie
    Guitar -- John Petrucci
    Bass--John Myung
    Keyboards -- Derek Sherinian (or Kevin Moore)
    Drums -- Mike Portnoy

    (I think I'll add two more members)
    Accordian -- Bafu Vai
    Milk Jug -- RipZero

    KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
          ibanez@cyberhighway.net
    "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
                                                  --David Arkenstone

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:11:21 -0500 (EST)
    From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: CD availability
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970117211007.15676C-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>

    On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, durnik wrote:

    > Quick question to everyone "in the know": it may have been
    > answered already, but why was "Time and Motion" dropped from the tour set
    > after only a few dates? Technical problems? Boredom?

    I don't know why, but wasn't "time and motion" and "resist" being
    alternated between nights? I went to the Philly show and they played
    "resist." They played "time and motion" in Maryland the next day.

    Brandon

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:06:43 +0000
    From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2198
    Message-ID: <199701180217.TAA29378@cyberhighway.net>

    > Is it true that Kirk Hammet is a fag???? I heard it a few times in the
    > past week...and hey is new look reflects it...I was just curious if
    > anyone out there knows...email me and let me know thanks!!!

    Not that I am or anything, but I find this to be rather rude. There
    are lots of other names you can use than "fag." Homosexual, gay,
    sexually disoriented, hormonally challenged... whatever...

    I have come to the fact the there are people among us who choose to
    be such and I am willing to accept that. But if any tries any
    advances towards me will be pummeled into a compact mess of tissue and
    I will write FP on my hand to keep them at bay evermore. Maybe SDFP.
    (Some people might not get that, but those of you that do... I think
    that was the stupidest thing we ever did in school)

    Nuff said.
    KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
          ibanez@cyberhighway.net
    "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
                                                  --David Arkenstone

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:41:30 -0500 (EST)
    From: Taco Belhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: "is Neil gay?"
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970117214034.18264B-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>

    On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Dan wrote:

    > Is it true that Kirk Hammet is a fag???? I heard it a few times in the
    > past week...and hey is new look reflects it...I was just curious if
    > anyone out there knows...email me and let me know thanks!!!

    It is true. And Geddy Lee is a woman.

    Brandon

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:53:07 -0700
    From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Cobain
    Message-ID: <199701180253.TAA81682@mustique.u.arizona.edu>

    At 02:42 PM 1/17/97 -0800, Mark Smeets wrote:
    >I DID like Smells like Teen Spirit, in fact, I had to
    >learn it for Pep Rallies with the band.

            This is when you know it's not "Alternative" anymore.

    Later,

            Peace be with you and God bless.

            ~Vince

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:10:02 -0700
    From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: HomoHammett ;o
    Message-ID: <199701180310.UAA30442@mustique.u.arizona.edu>

    At 05:52 PM 1/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
    >Is it true that Kirk Hammet is a fag???? I heard it a few times in the
    >past week...and hey is new look reflects it...I was just curious if
    >anyone out there knows...email me and let me know thanks!!!

            No. Kirk is not gay. Metallica lives in San Fran. and Kirk is
    friends with gay people, but he's not. He's also been divorced from his
    ex-wife for a couple years now. I wouldn't think less of him even if he was
    gay, though. It's against my religion and my own personal moral code, but
    the main reason I like Kirk Hammett is because of his guitarwork, not which
    hole he choses to stick his d___ in.

    Later,

            Peace be with you and God bless.

            ~Vince

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:44:37 -0500 (EST)
    From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Cover Band
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970117224234.2612A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>

    OK, my turn.

    Lead Guitar: Gerry Garcia
    Rhythm Guitar: Kirk Kobane (or however you spell his name)
    Vocals: Tom Wades
    Keys: Bryan Eino (or however you spell his name)
    Bas: That Guy from Better than Ezra
    Drums: I love Animal
    Bye bye. Be well.
    Matt B

    "The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:53:01 -0500 (EST)
    From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Nervana in the Nineties
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970117235138.5452A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>

    To the guy who said their albom first came out in 94--uh--no. I remember
    listening to smells Like Teen Spirit and the rest of that albom as early
    as 91 or possibly 90. I agree with that freek having the most influence.
    Matt B

    "The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:26:18 -0500
    From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: WHat ever happened to Zebra?
    Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.17.1.17.-9.26.18.5237.14855@clubmet.metrobbs.com>

           What ever happened to Zebra?

                           see ya

                                   todd s

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    Date: 18 Jan 97 00:40:00 EST
    From: Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@CompuServe.COM>
    To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: DT Cover Band
    Message-ID: <970118053959_72064.614_GHB64-1@CompuServe.COM>

    Just Gotta Throw in My .02 worth. I will mention my number one favorites, and
    then try to list someone not yet listed

                Already Mentioned Not Mentioned
    Drums Mark Zonder Tommy Aldridge
    Guitar Steve Vai Alex Sloknick
    BASS Stu Hamm Chris Squire
    Keys Jordan Rudess Jens Johannson
    Vocals Geoff Tate Michael Matejevic (SteelHeart)

    Other mentionables - Michael Sweet (Stryper - Vocals), David Coverdale (Vocals),
    Steve Pearcy (Ratt - Vocals), Mike Lee(Barren Cross - Vocals), Jim Simmons
    (Jodan Ruddess first CD "Listen" - Bass), Jim Laverde (Barren Cross - Bass),
    David Bryan (Bon Jovi - Keys), Rod Morgenstein (Dixie Dregs - Drums), Robert
    Sweet (Stryper - Drums)

    I know I left out many of the obvious individuals who have already been
    discussed. Also, I left out many people who could do covers which would be
    really cool, but nothing like the originals. Also the band I would LEAST like
    to see do Dream Theater Covers would be

    Vocals Joe Cocker (Or Bob Dylan)
    BASS Gene Simmons
    Guitars Kurt Cobain
    Keys Dizzy Reed (GNR)
    Drums That same damn Drum track that is in EVERY "House" Dance song!!!

    Regards,

    Michael Pomerleau

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    Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:39:26 -0500
    From: "Jonathan Dery" <metropolis@net1plus.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: I like alternative music because band's like Dream Theatre just want to copy Rush and show off and have no feel whatsoever.
    Message-ID: <32E0620E.114E@net1plus.com>

    The most talented and respected DT cover band would be, without
    question:

    Voices: Vanilla Ice
    Bass: The two string bassist from The Presidents of the USA
    Drums: Bush's drummer
    Keyboards: Are you kidding?!- cool 90's bands don't have keyboardists!
    Guitars: Christopher Thorne and Rogers Stevens from Blind Melon

    Opening for the first leg of the tour would be Pleasure Crush.

    Sorry for the sarcasm. It is Friday night and didn't go out. I just
    stayed home and hung out with my Mom and played Nintendo. I have every
    reason to be in a lonely, pissy mood.

    -Jon Dery

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    Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:13:27 -0500 (EST)
    From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: All the women stuff.
    Message-ID: <199701180613.BAA06830@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>

    I have to say that I as a male got a kick out of the stuff that she posted
    about men. There is nothing wrong with a little bit of joking around, lets
    get crazy and talk about Dream Theater and end with a cool or nasty joke.
    That would be cool, here's one for everyone:

    A woman entered her doctor's office with a very grave expression on her face.
    "My husband just doesn't seem to have the sexual energy he once had," the
    woman complained.
    "I see," said her physician, with a concearned look on his face. "And just
    how old is your husband?"
    "Seventy-seven."
    "Well, in some ways, you just can't blame him, can you? Bodily functions do
    deteriorate with age. Now tell me, when did you first notice that there was
    a problem?"
    "Last night," she said, "and then again this morning."

    Thought that this one was worth a chuckle. Later, J

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    Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:19:46 -0500 (EST)
    From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Bootleg date mix-up
    Message-ID: <199701180619.BAA19453@newman.cris.com>

    Folks,

    Any of you die-hard collectors out there...I was noticing the date on the
    boot Classic Live, and it says the show was on December 5, 1992, but I think
    that's a mistake. The reason I disagree is because I was living in Miami at
    the time and I had just returned from semester break (january '93) when
    Aaron "DJ Kuul A" Silverman asked if I was interested in going to see DT in
    Ft. Lauderdale sometime soon. I declined (I still kick myself for this)
    because at the time, I wasn't into DT. :-( So I checked the master tour list
    (located on some web page somewhere) and just as I thought, the sole I&W Ft.
    Lauderdale show was February 22, 1993, which supports my claim. So if you
    own Classic Live, or if you even give a flying fuck about this minor detail,
    there you go. Otherwise, I'm sorry I wasted your precious time. (not!)

    How about that Bahr guy... Is he out of control, or what! Woo-woo!!

    Keep it safe,

    -Rick Audet

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    Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:21:42 -0500 (EST)
    From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: My new and improved DT cover band
    Message-ID: <199701180621.BAA04913@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>

    Vocals: Mark Slaughter
    Bass: Kip Winger
    Guitar: CC Deville
    Drums: That guy from Nirvana
    Keys?: That guy that played the keys that looked like a guitar in the
    Prince video, "Party like it's 1999"

    Okay now seriously:

    Vocals: Geoff Tate
    Guitar: The Satch
    Bass: Les Claypool
    Drums: Neil Peart
    Keys: That guy from the doors.

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:25:51 -0700
    From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: DT Cover Band
    Message-ID: <199701180625.XAA77370@nevis.u.arizona.edu>

    I already sent in one idea on this, but I feel the need for another...

    Rhythm Guitar: Dimebag Darrell (Squeallies in the middle of Metropolis ;)
    Lead Guitar: Eric Johnson (Imagine this guy w/ a real distortion!)
    Bass: Frank Bello (Anthrax), or the guy who's touring w/ Steve Vai
    Keyboard: The guy who did the intro to "Inagadadavida" (sp?)
    Drums: James Hetfield (watch the San Diego Metallica vid)
    Vocals: Ozzy Osbourne

    Later,

            Peace be with you and God bless.

            ~Vince

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    Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:26:43 -0500 (EST)
    From: Drummnstan@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: "is Neil gay?"
    Message-ID: <970118012642_1012159790@emout05.mail.aol.com>

    In a message dated 1/18/97 2:53:50 AM, you wrote:

    <<On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Dan wrote:

    > Is it true that Kirk Hammet is a fag???? I heard it a few times in the
    > past week...and hey is new look reflects it...I was just curious if
    > anyone out there knows...email me and let me know thanks!!!
    >>

    does his sexual preference have anything to do with his guitar playing? does
    it change his stance in metallica, NO, who cares what he looks like or who he
    sleeps with, can he play a guitar? YYYEEESSS, he can, ohh yeah, i am not
    homosexual but i must ask, Do all gay people look like that? ummmm no they
    wouldnt, the point im trying to put in here is what someone looks like has no
    direct corellation to who he's fuckin'. sorry, had to be blunt there.

    Laterz,
    Stan

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    Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:52:46 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Tiles mailing list
    Message-ID: <199701180652.BAA67073@pilot07.cl.msu.edu>

        For those of you who like the band, Tiles, they are thinking of setting
    up an email update list to keep fans up to date on what's going on with the
    band. Anyone who is interested, drop me an email. Current info is about
    the new album to be released sometime in the next couple months and some
    pre-release secret shows in the Detroit area.
        For those of you who aren't aware of the band as yet (because if you
    were, you'd fall into the previous category :)), they are a great prog
    rock band in the style of Enchant. Lots of Rush influence and awesome
    songwriting. They have been on a compilation with Dream Theater and Fates
    Warning in France, so they are serious artists. The new album was mixed
    by Terry Brown of Rush fame and they recently negotiated with Magna Carta
    for a record contract. Unfortunately, the band objected to some of the
    conditions of the contract and MC was not willing to modify the standard
    contract, but these guys are easily on a par with the best of MC's bands.
    Drop me a line if any of this catches your interest.

    Andrew

    --
    garinger@pilot.msu.edu
    Zeta Beta Tau-Beta Epsilon Chapter
    

    "Assumption is the mother of all f*ckups..."

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    Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 01:39:34 +0000 From: Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The retroactive sensitivity of a fertile, converted turtle-Smurf Message-ID: <32E029CC.1CA5@sprynet.com>

    Hi there everyone!

    It's seems like it's been a while since I have posted and I guess now is as good a time as any to return.

    First Subject: Michael Kiske

    I got his solo disc "Instant Clarity". I like it. I am not really sure if it is for everyone on here as it has several different moods to it. Some of it is kinda heavy (the songs Kai Hansen plays on are kind of in the Gamma Ray/Helloween mode{from the little I have heard of them}), but a lot of it is laid back. Two songs are freaky and crappy. But as a whole I really like the CD as I get the feeling that he did what he really wanted to do and wasn't restricted by anyone. It's a real emotional (to me at least) CD. Plus he is a #*%* good singer.

    Now a Kiske question: What Helloween CDs did he sing on, and were they any good?

    RUSH fans question:

    Is the Alex Lifeson solo thing "Victor" worth getting. You can private mail me your reviews.

    Misc stuff: Does any know anything about a band called Opeth? Does anyone have Elegy "Primal Instinct"? how about Maraya's new one?

    As far as Apocalypse Music, I ordered SUPERIOR from them a while back and the guy there was VERY nice to me and I got the CD within a week. Now, to my understanding, this dude has dropped off the face of the Earth and unfortunately I have heard WAY too much bad to recommend them to anyone.

    Funk....I know there is something DT related that I want to ask..errgggg....what is it?

    Sorry for the lack of DTC.

    And for the schizophrenia thing, guess what Nuno Bettoncourt's solo disc is called?

    later gang

    Phillip

    Cool CD of the day: Extreme "Three Sides to Every Story"

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