YTSEJAM Digest 2230
Today's Topics:
1) Hey, Skadz! Ultimate in saving bandwidth!
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
2) Re: Ratt thing
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
3) Re: NDTC - Marty Friedman - Megafaq
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
4) New Saigon Kick
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
5) Random Thoughts and Other Stuff
by MTeiper@aol.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2227
by "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
7) Re: SAVATAGE new album schedule, CRUE (Keiji!)
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
8) Re: New Saigon Kick (WWW) (NDTC)
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
9) Re: More reviews: Deus ex Machina/Braindance
by Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
10) (NDTC) Gary Hoey Tour Dates
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
11) Win A Guitar from Gary Hoey !!!
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
12) Re.Payne's Gray
by "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
13) Chris Ptacek's song interpretation
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
14) New Producer
by Evan Robert Thomson <930377@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
15) Misheard lyrics
by Corey Bell <cmbell@inx.net>
16) KClarke
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
17) Re: Power of Omens
by "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
18) midis
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
19) lots of catching up
by "woot" <sir@micron.net>
20) License To Brag
by "Brian Henderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com>
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:59:23 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hey, Skadz! Ultimate in saving bandwidth!
Message-ID: <199701261909.MAA16236@cyberhighway.net>
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
--David Arkenstone
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 03:38:00 +0900
From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Ratt thing
Message-ID: <199701261838.DAA21637@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
Greetings! Jammers.
About Ratt thing.....
I heard ( interview with Warren on the radio) they re-release their 1st ep
with 1 lost bonus track. And about them,Stephen will come to Japan next
month as Vertex with Al (known as his recording/performance with
Savatage,T,M,Stevens,Tony Harnell,and DS of DT).
Thanks.
-Keiji Nishihara
Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp
tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 03:37:34 +0900
From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: NDTC - Marty Friedman - Megafaq
Message-ID: <199701261837.DAA21632@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
At 1:06 PM 97.1.25 -0800, Mark Smeets wrote:
>** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 01/25/97 07:53am -0800
>
>Hey, Does anyone have the months in which Marty Friedman's
>solo albums were released? I have the year but not the month
>:) Shitty deal too eh.
His 4th solo album was released in April,1996.
Thanks.
-Keiji Nishihara
Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp
tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:57:22 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Saigon Kick
Message-ID: <199701261907.MAA15922@cyberhighway.net>
> It saddens me to see what you'll do to try to be "cool". I
> guess I
> went through it myself, some time ago... I can't blame you. You try
> so hard to be something you're not--and everyone can see right
> through it... maybe someday you'll get your act together and grow
> up. I want you for who you are... you can't see yourself anymore,
> but I know you're still there... and you still think about me.
EZ, nuff. It's Eve. ;)
> Woo hoo! A major label? Wow. Their first three releases were on
> Atlantic <pretty major label>. Not many bands can make the transiton from
> a major label to CMC and BACK to a major label!
>
> Yes, I agree. Devil in the Details IS the best.
It's not the first one I suggest anyone get of theirs though. The
Lizard is much friendlier to the first listener. I still like Devil
in the Details alot, alot. It grows on you. Edgar's gotta be one of
the best songs they've written thus far. I'm glad to hear of a new
album. Anyone have a website for these guys?
> I just got my demo copy of "Power of Omens" and I want to make damn
> sure that the Jam gets oversaturated with their name. This is
> something that we should all hear
Where were you guys finding these? I saw it once before I think, but
neglected to have a go at it. Boy, do I feel like a chesse now.
> Cool CD of the Day - Mr. Big "Hey Man!" (don't laugh...this CD is good!)
No kiddin. I like it the best. I remember hearin someone say once
that The guitarist couldn't stand up to the guys in Pearl Jam before.
Makes me mad I didn't have my Racer X CD with me then. Paul smokes.
Later!
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
--David Arkenstone
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:24:08 -0500 (EST)
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Random Thoughts and Other Stuff
Message-ID: <970126152407_2024520876@emout15.mail.aol.com>
Hey Fellow Dreamheads -
Well, here it is... my first post on the 'Jam. I feel a tear coming
on... :) Just have a question or two. Has anyone heard any info regarding
the release of the Sega game, Necromicon? For those who are not aware, JP
recorded two (I think) SHREDDIN' guitar parts to the game's soundtrack. I
didn't know if that was actually still the game's name, or if it's already
out yet. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
A couple of Jams ago, someone was inquiring into the DT boot "Lido Beach
Party". I actually have the CD - it's pretty cool. It's a
better-than-average audience recording. I'd rate it close to, if not a
little worse than "Dance Of Eternity" quality-wise. I would recommed this
boot because, as was stated, the band really was pumped that night, and it
has a great, raw vibe to it. "Showdown" is particularly nice, as I think
it's the working title to "Raise the Knife". Also, there are other little
nuances throughout the show that brought a smile to my face (and my computer
screen... :) ) Basically, I would recommend this disk so long as you're not
paying an arm and a leg for it.
On to other news... the rave reviews on the Jam caused me to run out and
buy Jason Becker's "Perspective", and my review is, well, mixed. Very
emotional, but all of it's not really my cup of tea, I guess. Not a total
loss, though, so don't get me wrong. The opening track "Primal" is really
growing on me, and "End Of the Beginning" is so great, the CD's worth it just
for this one song. Nevertheless, I found my mind wandering near the end of
the disc. I haven't given up on it yet, though. Hey, even "Images and
Words" took several listens before I truly began to appreciate what I was
hearing! :)
Many have written asking about cool prog CD's to get, so here's my
resounding votes: Shadow Gallery's "Carved In Stone" and Amorphis's "Elegy".
Two of my all-time favorite albums, people. Outstanding music!!! However,
I'll never understand why Amorphis needs to contaminate a masterpiece with
the occasional death-metal growling vocals. Both albums are still very
strongly recommended nevertheless. I'm also looking for some new prog of my
own to get, possibly from Magna Carta. I'm already heavy into Magellan and
Shadow Gallery, but I thought that Altura sucked majorly! Any
recommendations (I've seen good Jam press about Lemur Voice and the like)
would be greatly appreciated - please E-Mail me privately.
Rock on, Jammerz!
Yours lovingly,
Matt
T.
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:50:06 -0500 (EST)
From: "Beavis (Wes Foll)" <wfoll@america.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2227
Message-ID: <199701262050.PAA11356@web1.america.net>
>i link them a lot too, theyre like fear factory with more lead work, guitar
>melody, and guitar solos, yet they're by far not as tight as fear factory in
>any way. they're also both on the same record label, have the same
>producer, and their cds even look alike on the cd rack cuz they use the same
>font for the titles n stuff. machine head totally rocks as well
And because they both kick ass! I just so happened to be listening to
Demanufacture as I read this jam...weird eh?
NEW BRUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!
Beavis (Wes Foll) http://www.america.net/~wfoll/beavis.htm
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:59:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: SAVATAGE new album schedule, CRUE (Keiji!)
Message-ID: <199701262059.OAA06746@parka.winternet.com>
>
> Sava and DT touring? Hghly unlikely, yet I would gladly sit through
> a 5-hour show if both bands headlined the tour.
It could happen. Both bands know and respect each other. I know
Jon has considered it. I suppose it would all boil down to money.
Savatage turned down an opening act with Iron Maiden last time, becuase
they would get more money headlining their own smaller tour. Also Savatage
has tons of material so a 45 min show would piss most fans off.
But 2 hours of each (Sava and DT) would be cool... so would the jam session
afterwards!!
>
> Yet didn't they skip touring the US after the last album? Or did
> they not tour at all. Never saw tour dates for it...
They had planned to tour the US, but the TSO thing was pushed hard by Atlantic
after they got back from thier 2nd DWD European Tour.
>
Nathan Bradley
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savaweb@winternet.com
Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages
www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:07:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: New Saigon Kick (WWW) (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199701262107.PAA06979@parka.winternet.com>
> album. Anyone have a website for these guys?
Saigon Kick's Web page is at
http://www.wyattworld.com/saigon-kick/sk-main.html
Nathan Bradley
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savaweb@winternet.com
Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages
www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:32:43 +0000
From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: More reviews: Deus ex Machina/Braindance
Message-ID: <B0000024869@chicago.orlinter.com>
At 05:33 PM 1/24/97 -0800, you wrote:
>At 09:37 PM 1/23/97 -0800, Walter Semerenko wrote:
>>Deus ex Machina: _Diacronie Metronomiche_
>
>Could you post or send me the track list for this please?
Ignis ab caelo (3:43) --one of the harder songs
Foederis aequas dicamus leges (5:57) --violinist hits some SWEET notes
Ad montem (6:31) --damn masterpiece song. frenzy, chaotic, operatic
De oraculis novis I (4:28) --slower song
Exordium (9:00) --slower song
Bonetti cana i Deus (:41) --hilarious. Piras goes into vocal spasms
Perpetua lux I (2:58) --instrumental
M.A. (2:00) --instrumental acoustic guitar and violin
Si tu bene valeas ego bene valeo (7:16) --love that heavy hammond sound
Brukner l'avversario di Brus li (1:06)
Res publica II (7:30) nice vocal work
Deus ex Machina (7:45) --live version sound MUCH better
Dialegein (9:34) --heavy song w/blistering guitar and long solo
Sigla (1:11) --Alberto Piras says goodbye
>BTW, I second the recomendation. I only have the self titled disc (where
>"Ad Montem" comes from) but it is exceptional. Not quite like any other
>disc I have in the rack.
Alberto Piras is influenced by Demitros Stratos (Area). The others are into
jazz, Frank Zappa and other stuff, but they are definately in the avante-garde.
I believe you have the second disc. The first one I hear the recording was
not great. _Da Republic_ the third is hailed by Ken Golden from Lasers Edge
as a masterpiece. The live one is excellent. This is the most intense live
recording I ever heard. I also got to see them in concert last year at
ProgDay '96. Man oh man let me tell ya. I only heard three song someone
taped for me, and I didn't think much about them. But when they came on, I
started to go wild and started to dance. Piras acted as a "conducter" of
the band. He did a lot of crazy things like blow a big fart against the
violinist belly, (funny as hell!) and got the guitarist on his shoulders
while singing.
The best part was when Piras invited *me* on stage to dance while they were
jamming. I felt lucky to say the least.
Walter.
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:28:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytse Jam)
Subject: (NDTC) Gary Hoey Tour Dates
Message-ID: <199701262128.PAA07484@parka.winternet.com>
Gary Hoey Dates !!!
Date City Venue
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1/30/97 San Jaun Capistrano, CA Coach House
2/01/97 Sacramento, CA Boardwalk
2/02/97 Palo Alto, CA The Edge
2/04/97 Reno, NV Del Mar Station
2/06/97 Portland, OR La Luna
2/07/97 Seattle, WA Moe's
2/11/97 Boise, ID Blues Bouquet
2/13/97 Salt Lake City, UT Zephyr Club
2/14/97 Steamboat Springs, CO Murphy's (tentative)
2/15/97 Denver, CO Hermans (tentative)
2/16/97 Colorado Springs, CO Manhattan's
2/18/97 Kansas City, KS Roadhouse Ruby
2/20/97 Lincoln, NE Royal Grove
2/21/97 Des Moines, IA Blue Cellar (tentative)
2/22/97 Milwaukee, WI venue TBA
2/25/97 Chicago, IL House of Blues (tentative)
2/27/97 Detroit, MI Harpo (tentative)
2/28/97 Toledo, OH Inner City (tentative)
3/01/97 Columbus, OH venue TBA
3/02/97 Altoona, PA venue TBA
3/04/97 Scranton, PA venue TBA
3/05/97 Binington, NY venue TBA
3/06/97 Utica, NY venue TBA
3/08/97 Binghamton, NY The Metra
Nathan Bradley
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savaweb@winternet.com
Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages
www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:35:03 -0600 (CST)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytse Jam)
Subject: Win A Guitar from Gary Hoey !!!
Message-ID: <199701262135.PAA07555@parka.winternet.com>
Jammers,
Gary Hoey is giving away an autographed Hamer guitar over the internet!!!
Check out his Web page at
www.sdog.com
There is one question that you have to get from the CD insert of Bug Alley
I can tell you the answer is not Beethoven or Mozart, but is in the same
class. (Hint: Name of Lead Singer for Skid Row).
Good Luck,
Nathan Bradley
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savaweb@winternet.com
Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages
www.winternet.com/~savaweb www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:51:10 +0000
From: "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re.Payne's Gray
Message-ID: <199701271356.0595800@no1.com.au>
Wow someone else out there has heard of Payne's Gray. IMO they are
unique in the world of progressive music, they sound like no one
else. Their album is very complex and therefore takes a number of
listens to fully appreciate, once your hooked it will be a life long
companion. I don't know if the album is readily available, I got my
copy from the band themselves, the band are very freindly and keen to
hear from new fans.
Cheers
Graham
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 17:12:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: Chris Ptacek's song interpretation
Message-ID: <01IEOD419HSY9BWCA9@alma.edu>
Status Seeker?
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:31:14 +1100 (EST)
From: Evan Robert Thomson <930377@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Producer
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970127092955.31416A-100000@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
Howdy all,
I must have missed this new producer news, but could anyone with any info
on Paul Northfield (?) - the new album producer please email me.
Evan Thomson
Melbourne Australia
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 17:32:06 -0500
From: Corey Bell <cmbell@inx.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Misheard lyrics
Message-ID: <199701262232.RAA15963@inx>
Me and a friend were talking and listening to DT the other day when
6:00 came on and he started singing along with it. I was kind of shocked
when he told me he actually bought and liked the Awake cd. When he finally
got to the line "Nobody knows what they want till they finally let it all
go" he blurts out "till they're fondeling little girls", I about died
laughing at him because he really thought they said that. Well, that is my
DT related post this week, talk to ya later.
Corey
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 17:56 EST
From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KClarke
Message-ID: <m0vodUY-000AiMC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
I agree with the person who said the ytsejam should be devoted to DT and I'm
willing to compromise and keep this as short as possible. I know there
aren't a lot of Warrior Soul fans on here but does anyone have any info on
the new Kory Clarke solo album that I heard about. Thanks for your time.
Don Compton
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 17:53:39 -0500
From: "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Power of Omens
Message-ID: <199701262256.OAA03898@pawn.ax.com>
>I've gotten into a lot of bands in the last year just because
>the jam was oversaturated with their names.
>I just got my demo copy of "Power of Omens" and I want to make damn
>sure that the Jam gets oversaturated with their name.
>This is something that we should all hear.
I disagree. Although they are talented musicians, their demo was boring as
hell.
I gave it about 4 listens, and still can't get into it. I'm a big fan of
prog metal, and
in the past few years many new bands came out with lots of talent and new
ideas.
Power of Omens offer nothing new.
If you're having trouble falling asleep, just pop their tape in, you'll be
sleeping
before the vocals begin. This is just my opinion.
Elvis Batur
cyclone@securenet.net
elv@geocities.com
Music In Progress
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4257
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 20:34:02 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: midis
Message-ID: <32EC060A.1A9@caribe.net>
Has anyone ever tried to do a midi for EVE? Does anyone care to try?
.it would rule
--
Seize the day, I heard him say: "Life will not always be this
way,
Look around...hear the sounds...herish your life, while you're still
around... "
<Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons> WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike
Portnoy
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 20:42:55 -0700
From: "woot" <sir@micron.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: lots of catching up
Message-ID: <199701270345.UAA13260@snowden.micron.net>
ok I just read or rather skimmed 30+ jams. A few comments...
Attention Mark Smeets! TRIM YOUR DAMN .SIG FILE!!! What is that? 30 lines?
most of it is just blank space too. what a waste.
Yes KJLB rules. No the Jam does not suck.
Ya know, a lot of people ask me "woot! Why the hell do you hate Nirvana so
much"? and I reply "Oh c'mon I don't hate them that much. I even named my
toilet after them!" <rimshot>
but seriously folks... I finally got Streets. That's right the guy that
can't stand Jon got another Jon album, and I like it a lot. It's quite a
bit better than Gutter Ballet too. That riff is Jesus Saves kicks my butt.
I admit that Altura and Enchant are probably just DT clones, but they are
really good at it. Many bands that try to clone DT fall short (Ivanhoe)
but these guys do not! The vocalists are both very good, and whats up with
Enchants drummer? This guy can really play. He might even be half as good
as Mike!
woot
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 22:49:15 -0500
From: "Brian Henderson" <Robert.Henderson@icdc.com>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: License To Brag
Message-ID: <199701270520.AAA24700@darkstar.icdc.com>
I'd just like to take the time here to congratulate RUSH, winner of this
year's 94.1 WYSP Superbowl of Rock! They beat, lessee, Zep'plin, Ozzy,
Metallica, Pearl Jam, GNR, Hendrix, Soundgarden, Nirvana, and a horde of
other out for this esteemed seat. It was a tough fight, but I think they
showed just how much muscle they have in the City of Brotherly Love. I
wonder if they got a call from the president? ...did Geddy get a cooler of
Gatorade dumped on his head perchance?
Also, in a completely unrelated question (both to the subject above *and*
DTC), I saw the video for a new (I belieeeeve it's new) The Doors song
recently on that In Concert show ABC's got on late night Saturdays. It was
a spoken-word number, quite funky, with a lot of saxophone, much unlike all
the other The Doors stuff I've heard. While I was/am not a big fan of
that, this "new" (we'll call it that) song really caught my fancy. Any of
you kids know what album it's on? Hey, wait a minute! Jim Morrison's
dead! Did they pull a Lennon on us here?
While I'm here, I just wanted to let everyone know that I *still* haven't
received a reply to any of the multitude of E-mails I sent to Apocalypse.
The bastard(s)... If anyone's keeping a bad-trader-list, be it physical or
mental, be sure to add APOCALYPSE MUSIC in the
steal-yo-money/rip-yo-ass-off category. Anybody know of any *reliable*
places to buy the sort of gems Apocalypse offered?
Brian Henderson, Cyberburlap
robert.henderson@icdc.com
"It always hits me kind of hard when a celebrity dies..." -- me, today,
trying to convince a co-worker Rosie O'Donnel had kicked the bucket
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