YTSEJAM Digest 2225
Today's Topics:
1) barney
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
2) Re: an observation
by Drummnstan@aol.com
3) Re: Sepultura
by Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
4) Kevin's Keyboards
by Matthew James Guillory <matt_guillory@fractal.com>
5) Don't screw with KJ
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
6) Malibu June 95
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
7) Re: Bafu? Uhh...
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
8) Queensryche / Shadow Gallery
by "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
9) hmmm....
by 99ABEL@alma.edu
10) Flotsam/DT
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
11) Re: Comments on DT's Fans
by Drummnstan@aol.com
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2224
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
13) Meshuggah quickie
by "Glenn Pillsbury" <PILLSBUR@HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
14) Panama Rock
by Eschnack@aol.com
15) Judas Priest Tribute (DTC)
by Geir Botterli <geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no>
16) From "Open Up and Say"; Best 10 prog.albums of '96
by Geir Botterli <geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no>
17) ...
by al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
18) re:THERION THELI
by jf <ebe@videotron.ca>
19) Re: More reviews: Deus ex Machina/Braindance
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
20) SAVATAGE new album schedule, CRUE (Keiji!)
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:37:23 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: barney
Message-ID: <32E92B93.57A6@caribe.net>
Is this barney's voice or does he use some kind of effect thing on his
voice cause it sounds kinda mechanized... hehe ouch it hurtz my throat
just listening to Damage inc... another comment : yesterday i heard Sex
and religion ..and devin townsend's voice soundds much better here than
on working man... more harmony and melody...i expected less..
--
Seize the day, I heard him say :
"Life will not always be this way,
Look around...hear the sounds...
Cherish your life,while you're still around... "
<Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons>
WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net
mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:07:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Drummnstan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: an observation
Message-ID: <970124150524_409164204@emout17.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 1/24/97 9:08:04 AM, you wrote:
<<people are dissatisfied w/ JLB's singing live is because of the grittiness
he
has in his voice, especially when he hits the high notes... this is also
noticeable on Awake.>>
that is my favorite part of awake, jaymz using his voice in that way brought
a huge sense of feeling to the music
Laterz,
Stan
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:13:43 -0500
From: Mike Estok <estok@teleport.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Sepultura
Message-ID: <199701242111.NAA00421@kim.teleport.com>
Someone asked about what Sepultura to get:
Arise has got to be the best. Frankly, I've tried but I just can't
really get into Sepultura. Arise and Roots are probably the best. Arise
reminds me of old Metallica but much heavier-faster, and Roots is like a
heavier Korn. (I like Korn better though)
If you are looking for metal in the vein of Pantera, I would suggest
Fear Factory foremost. Demanufacture is perhaps the greatest METAL album of
all time (IMHO) Death is also awesome, I'd recommend picking them up.
E-mail me if you want more info on these two bands.
Have you ever noticed how DT and their music turns us into
ambassadors for their music. I mean, it almost seems that we are their
promoters. I have turned many people on to them, and I bet the collective
group of the Ytsejam has converted thousands of people, far more than their
record label does. Just a thought.
Michelob
Impatiently waiting for the New QUEENSRYCHE@!!@!
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:36:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Matthew James Guillory <matt_guillory@fractal.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kevin's Keyboards
Message-ID: <v03007801af0e7222cf66@[205.179.211.207]>
Hey guys and gals.
Im writing this in response to the post in digest 2224 about Kevin's keyboards.
If memory serves me right, I believe he used a Korg DW-8000 and a Roland
JD-800. (both of which are discontinued models) The DW-8000 was mainly used
for solos. Im pretty sure it was manufactured in the late 80's. The Roland
JD-800 was the one on the bottom. Roland was making them around '91. Kevin
used the JD-800 for most (not all) of the rhythm patches. If you're lucky,
you can probably find both models used somewhere. DW-8000's are usually
priced at $399.00 in mint condition. Im not too sure about the JD-800's
though.
For live purposes, Im pretty sure that Kevin had a third keyboard. I think
it was a Korg DSS-1 sampler. (discontinued as well.)
Regards,
Matt
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:07:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Don't screw with KJ
Message-ID: <199701242107.QAA01306@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
Let me tell you that I have personally seen Dream Theater in concert and I
didn't feel that KJ was bad at all. In fact, I felt that he and the rest of
the band were astounding. I loved them all so much that I hope to see them
again. All singers are not perfect. You can't cover up a voice like you
can a guitar with proper distortion. KJ is the man. You said it Tony.
Later, J
****Patriots rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREEN BAY IS GOING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:40:46 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Malibu June 95
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9701241617.D5327-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
> Subject: Another friggin' boot question
>
> It seems that only a very small handful of y'all are on top of the DT
> bootleg scene. Regardless, I post my query in hopes of expanding my
> knowledge in this topic. The question:
>
> DT, "Lido Beach Party"- Anybody heard this bootleg? I know the tracklisting,
> but I wonder if it sounds good or is even worth looking for. This is the
> Malibu show from June 1995. Is this the 'mercy fuck' version of ACOS?
Actually, I'm taping this show for YtseJim as we speak (cause I'm so
damned far behind on trades. Thank Ged Jim's been so patient. :). The
*tape* I have of this show is decent quality. I've never seen it on CD.
This is not the "Mercy Fuck" version - that was Birch Hill 4 days
previous. It is good, though. Actually, this was the first DT show I
was ever at. The drum solo blew my ever-lovin' mind at that show.
Again, the tape I have is decent quality. I have no idea what the CD
quality would be. But it was an awesome show. They were all very pumped.
-d
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:42:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Bafu? Uhh...
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970124164137.26087A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Could anyone (Bafu?) please please please explain that random post was?
Bafu, what the fuck? And what the fuck is a Bafu anyway?!!!!! Be well.
Matt B
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 09:13:53 +0000
From: "Graham Boyle" <graham@no1.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Queensryche / Shadow Gallery
Message-ID: <199701251418.0583100@no1.com.au>
If any Japanese jammers know the release of the new albums from
Queensryche and Shadow Gallery (in Japan) ? I have heard that most
Japanese CD's are released 4 weeks before the rest of the world ? And
there is always the chance of extra tracks too.
Cheers
Graham
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:16:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: 99ABEL@alma.edu
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: hmmm....
Message-ID: <01IELKNPHMEQ9BWBER@alma.edu>
Sorry, but I have to ask. WTF is the "Mercy Fuck" version of ACOS?
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 16:21 EST
From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Flotsam/DT
Message-ID: <m0vnt41-0006PgC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
I just wanted to thank the person who gave the info about Flotsam And
Jetsam. Damn, I've been dying to hear some new Flotsam. Does anyone know if
its going in the same direction as Drift and Cuatro- I hope so even though,
many people didn't like the new style.
To the person who broke out with Metal Church, glad to hear it. They are an
awesome band and The Human Factors one of my faves. Anyone know whats up
with the guys in the band?
On a DT note, I'd like to know details about Scenes From A Memory and
Precious Things. I know the tracklisting but I'd like to know about
packaging and sound and all that. Thanks
Don Compton
mcauburn@iinc.com
"In conclusion, please be wary where authority reigns, all our leaders
answer to silent bosses where profit fills their greed, think before action,
learn before acceptance, decide what you should be...media children
passified, crosses stand where the dead man die, governments hide behind
religion..kids like us get thrown in prison"- Warrior Soul- In Conclusion
****************************************************************************
********
Abhorrent- Anthrax- Fiona Apple- Arcade- Armored Saint- Bush- Carcass-
Concrete Blonde- CIV- Danzig- Death- Doctor Butcher- Dinosaur Jr- Dream
Theater- Drown- Enertia- Fates Warning (w/ John Arch)- Flotsam And Jetsam-
Fight- For Squirrels-Garbage- Goo Goo Dolls- Imperium- Lillian Axe- J
Mascis- Metal Church- Mindfunk- Morbid Angel- Motley Crue- Mutha's Day Out-
Nasty Trast- The Nixons- Overkill- Paradise Lost- Poe- Queensryche- Rage
Against The Machine- Ramones- Reigndance- SAVATAGE- Skid Row- Seven Mary
Three- Slash's Snakepit- Testament- Trouble- Type O Negative- WARRIOR SOUL
UNOFFICIAL Warrior Soul Homepage (with lyrics and album info including rare
CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:04:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Drummnstan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Comments on DT's Fans
Message-ID: <970124150127_1926520358@emout10.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 1/24/97 6:34:29 AM, you wrote:
<<
Mr. Peters. A lot of people outside of the internet community would
consider you an "idoit" or a "jackoff" because you subscribe to and read an
internet mailing list. I believe a fan making the trip from Alabama to New
Jersey to see the Fix for 96 show at Birch Hill is great. Of course I am
biased. I flew from Memphis, TN to Philadelphia and then drove 60+ miles
to Old Bridge to see DT. I do not consider myself an "idiot" or "jackoff".
You know what... If they were playing this weekend I would do it again.
Previous post by rwarren@memphisonline.com about
the following:
>same thing) in the parking lot at BH with Alabama plates. Talk about
>idiots - what kind of jackoff would drive that far just to see a
>concert? Some DT fans just don't have a life, huh?
>
>Mark Peters
>big.swifty@twav.com>>
in defense of Mark here I think this was a really big joke cause If i
remember Mark drove from Atlanta? to see this show, correct me if im wrong
mark i know you intended to go cause i had intentions of selling you a tix b4
a mix up of communication.
Laterz,
Stan
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:14:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2224
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970124163830.28726E-100000@enteract.com>
> Thanks Chris for the info on the pickups. I have heard only good
> things about the demon, so I think that will be my choice. Bridge or neck
> position? I think I'll replace that cruddy single coil I have too. I hate
I know when I bought mine they were only available in bridge. I like some
of the DiMarzios for neck... the Norton, and the standard PAF Pro are
great.
> > Try "Birds of Fire" or "An Inner Mounting Flame" for starters.
BoF blew my MIND! This stuff is THIS old and there's SHRED ALL OVER the
place.
> >RATT is recording...
Warren DiMartini told my buddy at the NAMM show that they have nothing
officially planned. He's not sure if they want to get back together.
What they ARE doing is releasing a greatest hits/b-sides/unreleased cd
sometime soon.
- Chris Ptacek
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:30:15 PST
From: "Glenn Pillsbury" <PILLSBUR@HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Meshuggah quickie
Message-ID: <ADD5577F95@113hum2.humnet.ucla.edu>
Jammers-
Take the fellow from Sweden's advice. Get a hold of Meshuggah's
"Destroy, Erase, Improve." They've apparently succeeded at basically
separating (don't you love adverbs???) rhythm and harmony into
distinct elements. The rhythmic component is simply amazing and will
keep your musicianship skills very fit. Then there are these short
clean-toned guitar interludes that, for all intents and purposes,
function as the band's sense of "harmony," because all the 7-string
grinding works to position rhythm as the most important element
throughout most of each individual song. Think, perhaps, of the
intro to "The Mirror" where rhythm becomes central and the low B
is not really harmonic in any useful sense of the word, but
rather serves as merely "a pitch." And it's really angst- ridden
stuff, too. A most excellent suggestion.
Glenn
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:17:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Eschnack@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Panama Rock
Message-ID: <970124175541_681424656@emout08.mail.aol.com>
Ernie the only panamanian ytsejammer (actuall there's another one, but he
hasn't posted yet) recommends a webpage for panamanian rock... it's at
www.cyberimagen.com/panamarock
there's no prog, but there's some music some of you might dig. Ther#s one
metal band called Cabeza de Martillo, who's CD got censored... I don't know
why, they're not satanic or anything like that.
In any case, for anybody who's curious, you can hear some of the music thru
Realaudio....
Ernie
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 01:16:39 +0100
From: Geir Botterli <geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Judas Priest Tribute (DTC)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970125001639.0067c4f4@hekta.iet.hist.no>
Hi, I cut this out of the latest issue of "Open Up and Say" (posted in
alt.rock-n-roll.metal)
>- The highly trimmed, North American version of "Legends Of Metal - A
>Tribute To Judas Priest" will be out in late January. Bands (only ten of
>the twenty-five that made parts I and II in Europe) included are
>Helloween, Testament, Fates Warning, Mercyful Fate, Strapping Young Lad,
>Doom Squad, Nevermore, Overkill, Kreator, and Iced Earth. Due to the
>success of the tribute in Germany, Part III looks to be on the horizon.
>One track that is apparently completed features Dream Theater's James
>LaBrie, Steve Vai, and Billy Sheehan covering 'Freewheel Burning.'
I've seen alot of talk about this tribute, but nothing about KJLB singing.
Jepp.
--
Geir Botterli XMIR geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no
DT rules.
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 01:16:47 +0100
From: Geir Botterli <geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: From "Open Up and Say"; Best 10 prog.albums of '96
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970125001647.00667bc8@hekta.iet.hist.no>
Yeah, while I was at it, I cut this out too. This is not an attempt to start
a "top ten" thread.
>PROGRESSIVE ALBUMS OF THE YEAR
>
>1.Lemur Voice-Insights
> A great band that more than made up for the lack of a Dream
>Theater relese this past year.
Yeah! Lemur Voice rules
>
>2. Rush-Test For Echo
> Maybe not as prog as they used to be, but they are by no means
>mainstream. And they have put out there best album of the 90's.
>
>3. Porcupine Tree-Signify
> A cool band that sounds a lot like a 90's version of 70's Pink
>Floyd. (Well, that's how they've been described anyway)
>
>4. Spock's Beard-Beware of Darkness
> A very busy band that obviously knows what progressive music is
>all about. With a high recommendation from the members of Dream Theater,
>how can you go wrong. P.S.- This band will be as big as a prog rock band
>can be.
>
>5. I Mother Earth-Scenery And Fish
> A great album that does have progressive tendencies and is an
>improvement over the first album.
>
>6. Altura-Mercy
> Another excellent Magna Carta group. I hope this label and group
>are around in the 21st century.
>
>7. Victor
> Combine Rush and I Mother Earth and this is the very cool result.
>
>8. Asia-Arena
> Yes, this is the same group that made cheesy early 80 pop
>songs (which I like also!). Only thing is, there is only one remaing
>member and they have obviously come a long way since then. Their current
>singer has one of the best voices in progressive rock.
>
>9. Arena-Pride
> Available only as an import into the US. This is great album that
>sounds like mid 80's Marillion with a nineties spin on it.
>
>10. IRIS-Crossing the Desert
> An instrumental only album that features two members of
>Marillion. Though this sounds little like Marillion, it is still a great
>album to relax to. Import only. (Seems like a redundent theme when it
>comes to getting good progressive music. SHITTY AMERICAN RECORD
>COMPANIES!)
--
Geir Botterli XMIR geirb@hekta.iet.hist.no
DT rules.
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:34:30 -0500 (EST)
From: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ...
Message-ID: <199701250034.TAA00954@osfn.org>
Have any of you heard of a band, dating back to the early 80s entitled
"Frankie (ke?) and the Knockouts"? I am interested in obtaining a cd of theirs
but I know not of the tile.. and all their stuff is supposedly out of print..
Thanks.
--
And the solid book we wrote..
Could not be found today...
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 20:09:21 -0500
From: jf <ebe@videotron.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re:THERION THELI
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19960124200919.0067fab4@pop.videotron.ca>
the first time ive heard this cd, it was like a dream come true!!
this the best cd i ever hear since I&W!!!
it suond greath its original and realy heavy!!
if you like theli i recommend you another band named: theater of tragedy!!
this a 7 member band lots of clasical piano, duet vocal girl sound like
cranberries, and male voice sound like cannibal corpse with very powerfull
melodies!!
THEATER OF TRAGEDY : VELVET DARKNESS THEY FEAR!
HAARP.................;-)
nude girl dancing on DREAM THEATER:)
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 20:21:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: More reviews: Deus ex Machina/Braindance
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970124202231.08bfcf6e@access.mountain.net>
At 09:37 PM 1/23/97 -0800, Walter Semerenko wrote:
>Deus ex Machina: _Diacronie Metronomiche_
Could you post or send me the track list for this please?
BTW, I second the recomendation. I only have the self titled disc (where
"Ad Montem" comes from) but it is exceptional. Not quite like any other
disc I have in the rack.
>And if you think that DT's
>Metropolis is complex, wait till you listen to "Ad Montem" and you'll
>have a brain fart.
Man, no wonder my apartment smells so bad. :)
Jonathan Byrne, 1L
West Virginia University College of Law
rael@access.mountain.net (WormWood or DrNick on IRC)
NEW WEBPAGE! http://access.mountain.net/~rael/home.htm
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"Some people think they're lucky
Like they thought of heaven first."
-Neal Morse, "Waste Away", Spock's Beard
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:32:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: SAVATAGE new album schedule, CRUE (Keiji!)
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.970124171654.20874A-100000@mcl.ucsb.edu>
hey there,
I just got my first SAVATAGE fan club starter pak. Cool shirt
and autographed picture! Plus the BACKSTAGE PASS for their
next show.
Anyways, it says "The band has been working hard on the SAVATAGE
release. We are scheduled to start the recording process
some time in late February. The songs are coming together
and we will be releasing it in the summer of 97 due to the
fact that we have released so much material in the last two
years the record labels want us to hold off to avoid an
over saturation of the market."
They also go on to say that there is no title yet and it
is possibly going to be a concept album. They will also
be releasing all SAVATAGE imports to US members at lower
prices.
mmmmmm.....a summer release. Thinking what I am?
Also, appartently MOTELY CRUE will be at the American Music
Awards on Monday.
Also, I saw When Dream and Day Unite used for $7. It has
a different back cover than the version that I have. It has
their pictures from the inside along the border. If anybody
doesn't have it yet, let me know and I will pick it up for
you.
lauters
Conrad
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