YTSEJAM Digest 2224
Today's Topics:
1) Re: More reviews: Deus ex Machina/Braindance
by William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
2) KJLB
by Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
3) LtL Live
by Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
4) RE: Kevin's Keyboard
by Pandaman <76262.3207@CompuServe.COM>
5) Therion
by Eschnack@aol.com
6) Re: 220 Volt
by larnil-4@student.luth.se (Lars Nilsson)
7) king's x shows
by Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
8) Re: Jazz
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
9) Theatertre
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
10) writing on Kev's keyboards
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
11) Saigon Kick
by "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com>
12) Re: RATT unplugged,blah,blah,blah
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
13) 220Volt
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
14) Another friggin' boot question
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
15) Re: Holy Soldier
by Matthew P Robbins <robbins@aero.und.edu>
16) Bafu stuff
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
17) Re: Kevin's Keyboard
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
18) Flotsam and Jetsam news (NDTC), jamrecs
by "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
19) DTIFC COooolllll
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
20) Re: Really Random Thoughts Obviously Influenced By The Devil
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:24:11 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: More reviews: Deus ex Machina/Braindance
Message-ID: <0muAM=200YUg02PY40@andrew.cmu.edu>
yes! another jammer who's heard DxM!
i've been trying to convence people for a while on #ytsejam to pick up
some of their stuff, but to my knowledge no one has. you don't know
what you're missing!
these guys have roots in italian prog like Banco, with a lot of fusion
and hard rock influences (Zep comes to mind), and the best damn singer
ever. please, check out this band... you will *not* be disappointed!
Braindance is also a damn cool band... i hear they have a new one
coming out in the next cuople months... i'm definitely looking forward
to it. they're somewhat of a hybrid Goth/Prog band, who sound to me
something like Lycia, Ozric Tentacles, and Mastermind jamming
together... BD is one hell of an original band, there's nothing else
that sounds quite like them.
William (wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu) http://phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu/~wb2a/
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if you could see me all would stop * you would feel my power
and when you feed me i will spark * i will start a fire
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:35:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Anthony G LaSorsa <agls@christa.unh.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KJLB
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.970124092920.16465A-100000@christa.unh.edu>
I've been reading the last few jams and everyone is talking about whether
James can sing well live, or why Chris Collins and Dominicci left, etc, etc.
The only thing I can say about this is... Who cares? I mean, we all love
DT to death whether JL hits an occasional sour note. JL is as much a
part of the DT sound as the other guys, so lets give him a break.
Now I'm off my soapbox. I listened to the Majesty demos about a couple
of months ago and I thought that Collins sounded a lot like, dammit, now
I can't remember if it was Arch or Alder. One of the two anyways. I
sort of liked Collins vocals. I didn't think that they were all that
bad. JL IS the man though. I've said enough.
Tony
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:35:27 -0800
From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LtL Live
Message-ID: <199701241438.AA17927@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello again,
Thanks Chris for the info on the pickups. I have heard only good
things about the demon, so I think that will be my choice. Bridge or neck
position? I think I'll replace that cruddy single coil I have too. I hate
stock pickups...
As for LtL live, I've seen them play it at three of the four
shows I've been to. The first time was at the very first show I saw, the
IaW tour in Agawam, MA. It was as an encore. The had played every song
from the album except that one, so I figured it would be the encore.
Kevin came out and played a nice keyboard solo, which in hindsight may
have been Eve, I didn't hear Eve until last year when I got the TSM
single. Then the band came out one by one and LtL kicked in. The acoustic
guitar interlude: Petrucci put some kind of echo effect (I hesitate to
say delay) on his electric and played the interlude note for note. I
remember the sound being distinctly similar to Alex's live La Villa
Strangiato first solo on the Show of Hands tape, instead of the volume
swells he used echo.
At the other two shows, BH in 12/95 and 12/96, he played it
differently. Though I don't remember how he played it in 12/95, at the
last show, he completely eliminated the interlude in favor of an extended
solo. Not a shred solo, very soulful. Still, as the interlude is my
single favorite section of any Dream Theater work, I would like to see it
played (are you reading JP?). But then again, who am I to tell Gods what
to do, I'm a mere mortal.
Oops! There I go putting them on a pedestal again. I hope you
don't choke on my sig.
Andrew
_____________________
When the music stops,
There's only the sound of the rain...
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Date: 24 Jan 97 09:44:42 EST
From: Pandaman <76262.3207@CompuServe.COM>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: Kevin's Keyboard
Message-ID: <970124144441_76262.3207_GHM97-1@CompuServe.COM>
NuGgeTMaN wrote:
>
> I was watchin' LiT today and noticed somethin' on Kev's Keyboards
> (especially duringthe TtT video) that kinda looks like some kinda
> decorations of some kind. Oh yeah...I'm NOT talking about the
> Japanese symbols on his stand just in case some of you geniuses are
> thinkin' "Damn he's stupid...it's Japanese!" Later Kids!
>
Carlos Wrote:
>Well i was first thinkin about that.. but seing the video again theres
>also some japanese in the keyboard itself..and the stand..so i dont know
>what exactly are you talking about..
And Ryan Wrote:
>Yeah, I've alway wondered too. The writing on the stand is obviously Japanese.
>But there is also some other writing across the top of the keyboard. I
>thought that too, was Japanese writing.
Eh.. I really haven't watched the video that closely, but being japanese I can
say that the writing on the stand is not japanese... <or at least the person
who wrote it 'in japanese' wrote it illegibly.....>...
Pandaman
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:34:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Eschnack@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Therion
Message-ID: <970124092632_102851138@emout10.mail.aol.com>
I have Theli by Therion, and well, the review that was posted is quite
overblown. The 'searing solos' are actually very basic tapping stuff...
nothing impressive. The only relation they have w/ Mr. Malsteem is the
classical influence, but they do it differently. There's a lot of
orchestration going on, and most of the vocals are done by a choir. The rest
of the singing is done by the guitarists and the drummer. The guitarist
unfortunately grunts, Sepultura style. I actually like Sepltura, but the
grunting dowesn't fit in this style IMO. The drummer however sings very well
and does some cool harmonies w/ a guest vocalist. In general, the grunting
doesn't bother me too much, because when it's done, it's usually one line
grunting, one line singing.... and the grunting is really not so savage like
Sepultura...It doesn't have that much growl in it, it's more like aggressive
shouting. There's only one song where it bugs me. In general, the CD
rocks...it's basiccaly heavy detuned stuff, and the choir fits in really well
with that. In addition there's some very beatiful classical interludes here
and there.... but it's not progressive, in the odd time sigs,shredding, kinda
way. But it is very cool and different.
One thing, they're part of the Black Metal thing that's hitting Germany, but
as far as I can tell, they're not satanic, just dark. But Idon't really know
about that, I just know I like the music.
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:16:53 +0100 (MET)
From: larnil-4@student.luth.se (Lars Nilsson)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: 220 Volt
Message-ID: <v01530500af0e90adf586@[130.240.37.207]>
>Speaking of Sweeden, does anyone else remember a Sweedish metal band from
>about '89 called 220 Volt?
Oh yes! Since I'm from Sweden I remember them wery well...too well. I grow
up whith that kind of bands and look what they've done to me... I actually
had a record whith 220 Volt but a maneged to change it for a Kiss album (I
think it was The Elder) from a stupid friend of mine. Lucky me!
But Swedich bands?
For you who don't mind growlers: Try Meshuggah's "Destroy, Erease, Improve"!
And for you who like melodic stuff: Memento Mori "La Dance Macabre"!
Those two CD's are among the best "prog. - metal" I've ever heard. Try 'em out!
- Larsan
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:25:16 -0600 (CST)
From: Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: king's x shows
Message-ID: <199701241525.AA11231@metronet.com>
> From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
> Subject: Kings X: Semi-Secret shows 1/24 Houston
>
> ->>>three bands are playing at area51 in houston tomorrow night, 1/24/97.
> two of these bands have two of the guys from king's x in them. i dont know
> if one is in one band, one in another, or what. i dont know which two
> guys, either. i dont know if these are side projects, or their new bands.
> i have no idea if king's x is stil together.<<<-
>
>
> No, they aren't broken up. I do know that Jerry (drummer) is doing "Jam
> Session" shows in the area (Houston area, that is). Anybody is welcome and
> jam with him. Doug has done it, and so have some of the guys from GC. I'm
> guessing that this 1/24 Houston show is one of those open jam sessions with
> Jerry. There's info on their Official page, set up by Ty Tabor. The URL
> is now:
i am well aware of jerry's open mic nights, and this is listed on
the web page as one of them, but in local papers in houston it is
listed as three bands, two of them featuring members of king's x.
i assume one of them is this band you mentioned that doug is in, and
maybe the other one is blue vatican, which is supposed to be the members
of atomic opera with jerry on drums. i will report back monday what
i see at the show tonight.
<><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (lerxst@metronet.com) <><><><><><><><><>
<>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><>
"You have to systematically create confusion - it sets creativity free.
Everything that is contradictory creates life."
-Salvador Dali, 1980
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:27:47 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Jazz
Message-ID: <32E8D4F3.46AC@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
> Try "Birds of Fire" or "An Inner Mounting Flame" for starters.
I have both and totally agree. Forced to choose only one of 'em, my
recommendation would be Flame before Fire, Flame being a little more
accessible.
-Jon
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:05:55 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Theatertre
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970124080553.00685ba4@cats.ucsc.edu>
ProgRockBoy: Nice explanation, but not correct. That's why we have a
Theater arts department here and I used to see movies at the UC Theatre
regularly in Berkeley.
The real difference in US English is this:
If one wishes to sound intellectual, snooty and pretentious, or British,
one should use Theatre.
If ya wanna sound like a normal American, go with Theater.
note: the above two sentences are humor, but there is a valid point being
made in them. Namely that Theater is in all cases the standard US
spelling, and Theatre is only used if one wished to project an image other
than that.
Personally, this one prefers Theatre as a general spelling, but uses
Theater because it's the standard spelling. If only I could get people to
use grey instead of the normal gray ...
__ /\ __ +-------------------------------------+
__\/__\/__ | ~Chris |-+
\_||_/ | For a boring homepage, web to: | |
/__||__\ | http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ | |
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:20:17 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: writing on Kev's keyboards
Message-ID: <199701241620.LAA13505@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I seem to remember this thread from when LiT 1st came out.
Summer or Fall of '93 I think.
If I recall correctly, someone translated it and it said something
like "Now enter the cave where the dream ends and the nightmare begins".
Or something like that. Anyone else remember hearing this or have I truely
lost my mind? They could have been pulling out ytse-legs with the
translation but its a cool line anyway. :)
Hey, Bafugee, thanks for the info regarding the Fix for 96 items
being sold on the web site. I was unable to pick up a shirt at
the Birch Hell show and I was really kicking myself for not getting one but
now my sins will be forgiven!! yeah!!
I vote for the "Bring back Kevin in '97" tour!!
See ya!
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 10:58:04 -0600 From: "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Saigon Kick Message-ID: <199701241702.JAA04077@pawn.ax.com>
Hi all, I was just wondering if there are any Saigon Kick fans on here. Anyone have their new one - 'Devil in the Details'? I loved 'The Lizard', but didn't care for the first album. Is the new one along the lines of Lizard? Thanks in advance for any info! Just picked up Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn - Awesome! I can't wait to get 'Perspectives' in the mail next week.
ER info: Is anyone aware that Dr. Benton is actually symbolic of Satan? Am I wrong here? Or have the glowing images on the screen just clouded my judgement? Is there any truth to the rumors that Kevin Moore is co-writing the new theme song to next season's show?
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:04:36 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: RATT unplugged,blah,blah,blah Message-ID: <199701241704.CAA12734@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
Hi! There!
At 5:48 AM 97.1.24 -0800, DaDrummah@aol.com wrote:
>C.C. Deville is back with Poison....
Yeah,yeah... But Bret Michaels (vox) wants to establish his solo carrier,so there's no info about songwriting,etc..... Have you ever heard about that?
>RATT is recording...
Have you ever heard the rumour that re-united Ratt was the opening act for original line-up Van Halen tour? But,this doesn't happen........
>Night Ranger is recording (all original members)
Yeah,their coming-back album will come out this March from MVP/Zero in Japan. But there's no-infop about USA release so far......
>Motley Crue is back with Vince Neil....
Is that true they will come out on American Music Awards next week?
Sorry for this nothig-but-questions message.......
-Keiji Nishihara Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:05:10 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 220Volt Message-ID: <199701241705.CAA12744@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
220Volt planned to releaase their re-union album in this Jan. through Metal Mania/Theichiku. but there's no further info so far.
Take Care! -Keiji Nishihara Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:39:27 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Another friggin' boot question Message-ID: <199701241739.MAA05938@newman.concentric.net>
It seems that only a very small handful of y'all are on top of the DT bootleg scene. Regardless, I post my query in hopes of expanding my knowledge in this topic. The question:
DT, "Lido Beach Party"- Anybody heard this bootleg? I know the tracklisting, but I wonder if it sounds good or is even worth looking for. This is the Malibu show from June 1995. Is this the 'mercy fuck' version of ACOS?
Any info on this is mucho appreciato.
-Rick Audet
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:10:57 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew P Robbins <robbins@aero.und.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Holy Soldier Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.970124120154.44494A-100000@heart.cas.und.nodak.edu>
Scott Cook asked about Holy Soldier's bassist. His name is Andy Robbins (exact same name as my brother - whoa) and he has never left the band as far as I know. He was on their original self-titled and their most recent release. Incidently, they gave up their make up and "stage" hair years ago. That was all the rage in metal in the late 80's/early 90's, but as most metal acts (Kiss excluded) they've since moved on to the jeans and long straight hair look. For those who care, they are now on the christian label Forefront. ~Matt
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:45:00 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bafu stuff Message-ID: <199701241845.NAA29230@umbc9.umbc.edu>
> "Of course! How do you think I got the vocalist spot in Dream Theater? > Linguini with clam sauce gets 'em every time. Anyway, Geoff Tate and I > both have something to offer, and if you don't like what either one of us > has to offer, then fuck off. Go eat at McDonald's for all I care."
Wait. Last time I talked to James he said of John Myung, "The chef. He's the chef, man. Right here. There ya go."
:)
> all merchandise from the Fix For '96 shows will soon be available on the > DT website (the rsabbs one). That's the shirts, the hats, the whole nine > yards.
Woo hoo!
> (If you don't watch ER, angrily skip this and curse me.) > But like Jack Skellington and Oedipus Rex before him, Doug Ross is a > tragic hero...
<lots of great character analysis of Doug Ross deleted...>
That ruled! I missed er last night. What happened with Mark and that hispanic nurse? I love her!
Oh, sorry. Soap opera mode: off. :)
Steve Z
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:00:23 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Kevin's Keyboard Message-ID: <32E914D7.CA7@caribe.net>
Ryan Rafaloff wrote:
> that. BTW, I was always curious to know what type of a keyboard that was. > Any ideas? > > Rock On, > -Raf-
Didnt kevin use roland? Im completely Keyboard-ignorant (other than playing some bits off ytsejam sdv and surrounded) So if anyone knows what keys did kev use?
Seize the day, I heard him say : "Life will not always be this way, Look around...hear the sounds... Cherish your life,while you're still around... " <Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons> WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:51:08 -0500 From: "Kevin W. Madden" <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: "Large Oil Conglomerates' bastard children" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Flotsam and Jetsam news (NDTC), jamrecs Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970124195108.00667ed0@pop.pipeline.com>
Just heard some new info on Flotsam and Jetsam. Supposedly the new album will be entitled, "High," and it will be out sometime in May. This is from one of the horse's mouths at Metal Blade Records.
Just received Jason Becker's "Perspective" in the mail today. It's pretty cool, but you guy have me thinking about whether I like it due to the artist or the artist's predicament. I think I would enjoy this either way. We can call this a successful jam recommendation.
Just received Steve Morse's "High Tension Wires" in the mail the day before yesterday. I like it, and I *love* his tone. Some of the tracks are a bit too "clean" sounding to my ear, but overall this is a good record by a master of the instrument. Another successful jam rec.
Just got done eating Taco Bell (as in "food from," wiseasses...) for lunch. Hmm. Yummy.
Just wanted to see if I could start another paragraph with "just."
Kevin
GO WINGS!!! GO PACKERS!!!
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:02:24 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DTIFC COooolllll Message-ID: <32E92360.3A35@caribe.net>
Hello! I want to thank the fanclub and Specially neil elliot for putting up with me... I FINALLLY GOT IT!!!!!!!! thanx neil
-- mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 20:21:45 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Really Random Thoughts Obviously Influenced By The Devil Message-ID: <32E919D9.71EB@mailstorm.dot.gov>
I'm sorry, but this is not the place for discussion about ER. I've had it!! I'm fed up!!
By the way, does anyone else like the intro music to ER? I turn the bass up for the intro till the speakers are bulging out far enough from the cabinets to give me chest compressions ;)
> If anyone on this list agrees with the above opinion, you're a fucking > idiot.
In the context of the entire post:
*fucking* idiot... I love it!!!
GO PATS!!
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