YTSEJAM Digest 2232
Today's Topics:
1) CRIMSON GLORY
by Stephane AUZILLEAU <auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net>
2) Type O
by CK78729@ltu.edu
3) Power of Omens, NDTC
by "Kevin Donnelly" <KDonnelly@vines.ColoState.EDU>
4) hush hush concerts
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
5) NDTC: ATTN Central PA Jammers
by ahs110@psu.edu (Amit Shah)
6) Hey! Vote for us!
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
7) Re: Dream Theater Translations!
by Scott Holthausen <smh@ldg.com>
8) JP's Sega deal....
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
9) Re: My Translation
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
10) Noise, Noise, Noise
by Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
11) Devin,Machine Head,-ush
by satu.reunanen@sci.fi (Satu Reunanen)
12) Re: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4257
by "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
13) Petrucci video
by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
14) Re: Type O
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
15) various music thoughts
by "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com>
16) Ummm... Stuff.
by Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
17)
by flavio maia <fmaiap@construtel.com.br>
18) type o
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
19) even more unmoderated shit
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
20) Machine Head
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
21) My daily post.
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
22) Re: My daily post.
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:35:27 +0100 (MET)
From: Stephane AUZILLEAU <auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: CRIMSON GLORY
Message-ID: <199701261235.NAA16730@zen.dedal.fr.net>
Hi there,
Just a short e-mail to give some news from Crimson Glory. They recorded a
new album with Midnight on vocals.
Last november I was lucky enough to hear the instrumental demos from the
album and it sounded really great!! More in the vein of "Transcendence" than
"Strange and beautiful". I really think that the album will kick ass! It
should be released soon.
By teh way, another great album is Sean Malone's new project CORTLAND. It's
not metal but jazz, and it's very impressive. CYNIC fans will love it. It's
available through a label named "Audio Image Rec".
That's all for now...
Stephane Auzilleau
editor or Your Majesty, french DT fanzine
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:11:48 -0500 (EST)
From: CK78729@ltu.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Type O
Message-ID: <01IEPIX8C3TU94DXCW@ltu.edu>
I was just wondering how many jammers are also into Type O Negative.
IMHO Type O and Dream Theater are both making the best use of keyboards
in hard rock. Any comments?
-C
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 11:21:36 -0700
From: "Kevin Donnelly" <KDonnelly@vines.ColoState.EDU>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Power of Omens, NDTC
Message-ID: <vines.0,16+k6Dvma@vines.ColoState.EDU>
Hey all,
I respect Elvis Batur's opinion concerning the POWER OF OMENS demo tape -
he wrote (in part...)
>Although they are talented musicians, their demo was boring as
>hell. I gave it about 4 listens, and still can't get into it.
I gotta add my favorable opinion of these guys and what I think is an excellent demo.
They are following accepted progressive metal styles and have a very Queensryche-esque
vocalist but I find the overall effect compelling, powerful, highly enjoyable, and memorable.
I expect some very good stuff in the future from these guys - especially if they follow
their instincts and talents into new territory.
SUPERIOR was identified as the "best hope for the future" (I definitely agree) but they will
have great company through the turn of the century if bands like CLOCKWORK and POWER OF
OMENS are able to come through. Just my opinion.
Kevin D.
p.s. I love this jam! I get DT information/opinion as well as same on many other bands. Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:35:35 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: hush hush concerts
Message-ID: <32ECF577.1548@mailstorm.dot.gov>
Someone mentioned a few jams ago about King's X playing an un-announced
gig, I believe it was in Houston. I'm curious if this is the latest
trend. I heard from a friend that Alice in Chains just played at
Wentworth this past Saturday, also hush-hush. Any Boston locals happen
to catch it?
Jon
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:04:18 -0500
From: ahs110@psu.edu (Amit Shah)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC: ATTN Central PA Jammers
Message-ID: <199701271905.OAA73468@r02n05.cac.psu.edu>
OK, any of you central/western PA jammers that are going to see Gary Hoey in
Altoona on march 2, let me know.. especially if you're heading out from
state college. Thanks.
-Amit Shah
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:06:08 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hey! Vote for us!
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9701271404.D2686-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Hey, gang. A company called New Art and Vision sponsors contests they
call Fortnight Frenzy, where they choose a category and six web pages
from that category, and let surfers vote on which of the six is the
best. Well, for the next two weeks, there's a Dream Theater category,
and you can all hop in and vote for your favorite DT site! I'm humbled
to say that my page is in competition with such heavyweights as the
official RSA page, Mike Burstin's, and Mike Kizer's. "It was an honor
just to be nominated." :)
So, everyone go to http://www.newartvision.com/ifrenzy.html, check out
the six nominees, and cast your vote! You're allowed to vote once a day,
so support your favorite page as much as you can!
-d
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cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn
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http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 18:55:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Scott Holthausen <smh@ldg.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Dream Theater Translations!
Message-ID: <199701271911.LAA17298@pawn.ax.com>
<snip>
>> This could be a pretty cool tool to help people see the meanings of
>> the songs if the lyrics seem a bit too vague for them. If this thread
>> sucks, or has already been done, let me know. :) Otherwise, join in!
>
>
> I think it would be even cooler if the translation was in ebonics.
>
>
> Any takers? (Bafu?)
>
. . .Or how about in Jive? E-mail a message to jive@ifi.unizh.ch and in
about five or ten minutes you get back a Jive translation of what you sent
to them. Sometimes the results are pretty lame, but it's always good for a
laugh. (BTW, I'm not affiliated in any way with the company that does this.)
Scott Holthausen
-smh@ldg.com
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:10:50 -0500
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@bu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JP's Sega deal....
Message-ID: <32ECFDBA.159@bu.edu>
Someone inquired about it and whatnot, so I'll post the info. The game
is called Necronomicon, and it is a digital pinball game for Sega
Saturn. Go to http://kaze.kazenet.com/necronomicon/necronomicon-e.html
to find out all about it and download some movie samples, if you can get
them to work. (I couldn't) The game has been out since November in
Japan and they're not sure about a US release. Any of you Japanese
jammers wanna get one for me? I'm sure we can work something out....
:) Toodles!
Brian
-- /* * User: Brian Wherry, bwherry@bu.edu, bwherry@cs.bu.edu * School: Boston University College of Engineering * Web: http://acs.bu.edu:8001/~bwherry/ * Quote: "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur." */------------------------------
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:16:16 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: My Translation Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970127141251.1302A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
And the second winner of this wacky wet and wild contest is... MP drumb-roll please... Maddy! Yes, but since the response was so long in coming all we can award you is a profound sig file and a one-way ticket to Bafu-ville. So get ready to house a guest Bafu. Oh, and Maddy, you won't be able to say a word. Not one. You can only listen to what Mr. Ve has to say. So get ready for the most opinionated time of your life. Be well. Matt B
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:30:22 -0500 From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com> To: "'(Ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Noise, Noise, Noise Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=bostech%l=CARRIER-970127193022Z-2232@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
I though that it would be only fair to let others know that I recently ordered from Noise records and, in contrast to others who have had trouble, I received my CD within about 8-9 days.
Oh, why not. The CD that I got was Stratovarius "Episode". These guys seemed to be very decent. Actually, they seemed to have two very distinct classes of songs. One class has more lengthy songs, better written = more complexity, longer, more instrumental passages, etc. The other class sounded a lot like Angra's shorter songs. Both the vocals (he sounded exactly like Andre - which I like) and the rather simplistic drumming style (which I dont really care for = fire away .....) sounded exactly like Angra. If you are interested, call them at 1-800-noise22.
Later, Mark Metzger L W B W .........ba-hahahaha !!!! O A A I N S N D G T D T S I H I N G G
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:30:04 +0200 (EET) From: satu.reunanen@sci.fi (Satu Reunanen) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Devin,Machine Head,-ush Message-ID: <199701271930.VAA19571@id4.sci.fi>
I can't believe how someone doesn't like Devin Townsend. I went to see that show from Steve Vai where Devin was singing and he was so great ! And I really like the Sex and religion cd. Devin is a really unique person as is Steve and they really did a great job together. As for Machine Head, you SHOULD check them out if you like some really powerful music ! Like Pantera. I saw MH live some two years ago (about) and they were as amazing live as on the cd. It was like listening to the cd ! Am I the only freak here who likes all Rush, Lush and Bush ???
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:40:09 -0500 From: "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4257 Message-ID: <199701271943.LAA17933@pawn.ax.com>
>I have never ever been able to get to this address? >Any one else? Any explanations?
Be sure you type it correctly with CAPITAL 'S' in SunsetStrip ^ ^
Elvis Batur cyclone@securenet.net elv@geocities.com
Music In Progress http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4257 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:55:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Petrucci video Message-ID: <199701271955.OAA30834@pilot01.cl.msu.edu>
Anyone looking for Rock Discipline can find it at cdnow.com for $37.30 plus S&H. Decent price if I ever saw one... Hopefully they will get the Myung video at a similar discount.
Andrew
-- garinger@pilot.msu.edu Zeta Beta Tau-Beta Epsilon Chapter
"Assumption is the mother of all f*ckups..."
GB/MU d- s++:-- a-- C++ !U P? !L E--- W+ N-- K- w-- !O M-- !V PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP t++ 5 X+ R tv+ b+++ DI+++ D++ G- e* h++ r--- !y+ (The above Geek Code may be decoded at http://hci.ise.vt.edu/~jreiss/ geek/geek.cgi)
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:56:13 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Type O Message-ID: <199701271956.MAA71858@kitts.u.arizona.edu>
At 10:24 AM 1/27/97 -0800, you wrote: >I was just wondering how many jammers are also into Type O Negative. >IMHO Type O and Dream Theater are both making the best use of keyboards >in hard rock. Any comments? > IMHO, Type O Negative is a heavier, darker, more intense but less complex version of Dream Theater. I can definitely see how each band relates, and I like the fact that they use a kbyd player too. It's kinda tough to find a place for a keyboard player in a metal band, and my hat goes off to all the bands that do it successfully. My favorite of course being Dream Theater.
Laterz,
Peace be with you and God bless.
~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 13:56:23 -0600 From: "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: various music thoughts Message-ID: <199701272000.MAA18329@pawn.ax.com>
Hi Gang, On the Mr. Big subject - I agree that 'Hey Man' is an awesome disc! Actually, I like all of their stuff - It's just good quality rock that's fun to listen to! Anyone like Rainbow? I got 'Bent out of Shape' at a used place the other day and I really like it! It sounds a lot like Foreigner to me (especially the beginning of 'Stranded' his voice sounds almost EXACTLY like Foreigner), but I like it better. What other discs would a Rainbow listener recommend I pick up? Thanks for any info! My Enchant, Lemur Voice, and 'Perspectives' should be in my mailbox at home by now! Cool!!
-rob
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:15:29 -0800 From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ummm... Stuff. Message-ID: <199701272018.AA24433@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hiya, Hey Al, >>I think it would be even cooler if the translation was in ebonics.
Thanks for this one, I'm still recovering from the laughter. And as for this fella here: >> So, that's all I've got at the moment so keep the music discussion >>alive. It really stinks that the Packers won the superbowl, the >>Patriots >>could have done it. The Packers played real dirty.
Please tell me you're not serious. Dirty? Since when is picking off passes and sacking the QB dirty? I'm am by no means a hater of the Pats, but there are only two ways they could have won: Curtis Martin had to get in gear, and Bledsoe had to be pick-free. Both of these things not happening were partly the fault of their offensive line. Martin didn't have any holes to take and Bledsoe didn't have the time to make good decisions. And besides, would you rather the Cowboys won again? At least the Packers are respectable players (Andre Rison excluded), not attitude ridden bastards like Deion, Irvin, and Co. As for Mr. Big's Hey Man! I bought it and returned it a week later. It does not meet the caliber of Lean Into It (IMHO their best) and Bump Ahead was their first step in the wrong direction. Too many ballads, not enough innovative guitar and bass work (the foundation of the band, IMHO again). They still do have cool album covers though. As for the Saigon Kick web page: don't bother checking it. It's been under construction for ages. I'll keep you updated (not that I'm a close friend of theirs or anything). And The Lizard is "listener-friendly"? I don't have a single friend who liked it when I played it for them. As a matter of fact, I don't have any friends who like SK, period. Damn, it's so hard to force your musical taste on the unwilling... Someone has cloned Dream Theater? Where did they find the Spaarti cylinders? I thought Emperor Palpatine had hidden them all after the Clone Wars for his own private army? Now he wants to clone great musicians? When will the horrors of the Dark Side and the Empire cease? FOUR DAYS TILL STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andrew _____________________ When the music stops, There's only the sound of the rain...
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:31:28 -0200 (EDT) From: flavio maia <fmaiap@construtel.com.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199701272031.SAA05174@leon.construtel.com.br>
Sorry guys, i didn't like to ask about bands that has nothing about dt but...Does anyone knows how to get in the helloween and iron maiden mailing list?Answer me directly... Are dt playing some old stuff in their new shows?
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:01:03 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: type o Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970127220103.007163f8@mail.inlink.com>
> >I was just wondering how many jammers are also into Type O Negative. >IMHO Type O and Dream Theater are both making the best use of keyboards >in hard rock. Any comments?
i was just blasting bloody kisses a few nights back, type o rocks... i was going to pick up october rust quite a while ago, but at the same place i found Live in Tokyo, i went for the obvious buy. almost bought origin of the fecis a few ago too... one of these days i will, i love these guys. very melodic, really insightful, and most of all just damn cool :)
~Rip
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:24:28 +0100 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'The YtseSpam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: even more unmoderated shit Message-ID: <01BC0CA9.A95A3940@Lwaxana.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Scott X politely replied :
> [snip] every time I've seen you post, the contents are usually: > > 1. There's too much NDTC here.
True (sorry about this post, btw)
> 2. The Marillion list is better.
True
1. Almost always on-topic or closely related topics 2. Fish and Mark Kelly give us regular updates and answer questions 3. Competitions, release dates, less flamewars... 4. One digest a day, not 4 or 5 (more subscribers than Ytsejam, btw)
Address : freaks-request@ax.com Subject : asdf Message : subscribe freaks <yourname>
> 3. The most frequent poster list (noticed my name isn't at the top > anymore)
You're January's #7 so far... 26 posts, 918 lines, 1.9 % bandwidth. Close enough.
> 4. the MFP list is going to include more info now
True (amount of lines per poster and percentage of bandwidth used)
> 5. The jam needs to be moderated.
...I know, I shouldn't have posted this either :-( Sorry...
> But I don't ever see you write anything DT related.
That's why I only posted 5 times this month (#24 on the MFP so far)
1. New MFP and Domain-lists 2/3. Anti "this band sux"-posts 4. Album suggestion 5. The post you replied to
That's not too bad, is it ?
> Like I said this is not meant to be a flame, but take it anyway > you want it.
Okey Dokey ________________________________________________________________________ ItchyMark (no sig, wasted enough space) http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:47:40 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Machine Head Message-ID: <199701280049.SAA05822@Walden.MO.NET>
hey, when DT was on Headbanger's Ball a few yearsa go, MP was wearing a Machine Head t-shirt (okay, so this is an inane post. I ws just reminded of it w/all the talk 'bout MH). Later.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:14:56 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My daily post. Message-ID: <199701280125.SAA19849@cyberhighway.net>
Bonus! I just got the 1st Shadow Gallery today. It only took em 2 weeks so I give Magna Carta a thumb up for service (not, 2, could've been 2 day air. :) Anyway, for thos of you that really liked Carved in Stone oughtta get this. It does lack where the two missing members filled in the 2nd, but the musicianship is just as great. I give this album an A next to the A+ I gave Carved in Stone. You can't tell it's a drum machine without listening for it. :)
> I dont know but Enchant sounds more like Rush to me (in the way that > theyre way less heavy than DT and dont have any "wacky" parts.And Altura > does have those parts but they do it jsut for the sake of doing > them..and sounds choppy...
I dunno. Enchant sounds more to me like a combo of Marillion and Fates Warning and Altura has a real cool style, if you ask me. Their only prob is all the weird stuff they throw in the middle of the songs. I kinda like it in places, but they could put some solos that fit the song rather than the oddball crap they throw in. I still like em both alot, though.
> close friend of theirs or anything). And The Lizard is > "listener-friendly"? I don't have a single friend who liked it when > I played it for them. As a matter of fact, I don't have any friends > who like SK, period. Damn, it's so hard to force your musical taste > on the unwilling...
Hrm. That was the most popular album in the school back when I was a Junior (when it just came out). When Water came out, they all hated it, sayin SK had wussed out, and the 1st wasn't very popular either. Oh, well, that was then, this is now, I guess...
Nuff fer now, KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore) ibanez@cyberhighway.net "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to." --David Arkenstone
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:47:25 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: My daily post. Message-ID: <32ED68BD.2E95@caribe.net>
KorgX3 wrote: > I > give this album an A next to the A+ I gave Carved in Stone. You > can't tell it's a drum machine without listening for it. :) > I tqake it that te drummer is missing...who else?
> I dunno. Enchant sounds more to me like a combo of Marillion and > Fates Warning and Altura has a real cool style, if you ask me. Their > only prob is all the weird stuff they throw in the middle of the > songs. I kinda like it in places, but they could put some solos that > fit the song rather than the oddball crap they throw in. I still > like em both alot, though. > > Hehe thing is ive never heard marillion..and only heard FW inside out and Exodus (the song) so I just compared it to the closest thing iv eheard.. and i really agree w/ you in the altura thing.. i dont know ..i like it but i cant bear to listen to it because of the prodcution of the guitars and drums.. i dunno about you but those guitars sound to dirty to me ..i dont know..ive always associated prog with a more "surgical" kinda controlled distortion..
Increasingly the mathematics will demand the courage to face its implications-Ian Malcolm mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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