YTSEJAM Digest 2233
Today's Topics:
1) My Second Daily post.
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
2) Paul Gilbert plays Jimi Hendrix?
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
3) Type O Negative
by Dave Silva <silva@physci.psu.edu>
4) Music Awards
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
5) DT Translations
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2232
by ASHUSTER@LOYOLA.EDU
7) Request For DT Shows
by MTeiper@aol.com
8) ACOS
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
9) I'll take the daily double, Alex...
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
10) RE: The Crue at AMA
by "Mark Hatch-Miller" <ace@onfire.net>
11) RE: Type O Negative
by "Mark Hatch-Miller" <ace@onfire.net>
12) RE: Bush, Lush, Rush AND Music Awards
by "Mark Hatch-Miller" <ace@onfire.net>
13) RE: The Crue at AMA
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
14) Re: Type O
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
15) Type O
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
16) Dream Disc
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
17) rapper irony (NDTC)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
18) NDTC - Rainbow
by Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au>
19) ANGRA
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
20) Re: Paul Gilbert plays Jimi Hendrix?
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
21) Re: Type O
by SlaveBlaze@aol.com
22) DT, Type O Negative, Keyboards
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
23) Is Bafu Skadz???, CD Burner....
by Timothy Adams <adamst@wasc.egginc.com>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:00:20 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My Second Daily post.
Message-ID: <199701280210.TAA26877@cyberhighway.net>
> KorgX3 wrote:
> > I
> > give this album an A next to the A+ I gave Carved in Stone. You
> > can't tell it's a drum machine without listening for it. :)
> >
> I tqake it that te drummer is missing...who else?
Gary Wehrkamp, the gutiarist/keyboardist. (Kinda thing I'd like to do
in a band).
> to me ..i dont know..ive always associated prog with a more "surgical"
> kinda controlled distortion..
Great way to coin it. Just envision JP opening up someone with his
intese, clean piercing distortion. Makes me think back to when
someone posted to my doctor not knowing music theory and performing
surgery. I see the connection now. ;) <j/k>
Laterz!
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
--David Arkenstone
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 21:24:57 EST
From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Paul Gilbert plays Jimi Hendrix?
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+5AKvmA@tcx.tcco.com>
I've been a huge fan of Paul Gilbert ever since I picked up Racer X's "Street
Lethal". The other day, I heard someone at the CD shop mention that he
released an album of Jimi Hendrix covers. Is this true? And if so, where can
I find it? Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:38:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Dave Silva <silva@physci.psu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Type O Negative
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970127213401.13048B-100000@marge.physci.psu.edu>
I was a little interested in this band, since they are talked about a
little bit on the Jam. I'm not sure whether to try them out and was
wondering if prog fans (rock or metal) would really like them. They
recently came out here to State College to one of the local bars. I was
considering seeing them, but homework..... At any rate, I walked by when
everybody was in line, and it looked like a typical metal crowd, full of
locals. Not the crowd I'm used to seeing when watching a prog band such
as DT. If anybody is so inclined, give me the info!
Dave
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:48:01 -0800
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Music Awards
Message-ID: <32ED9311.5CF0@dreamt.org>
Well, the music awards are only half over and holy shit!
1. Pat Boone, Alice Cooper, and Metallica on the same stage
2. Pat Boone in leather with earrings and tatoos! (I GOTTA get that
album!)
3. Lars announces he's gotten married!
6. THE ORIGINAL MOTLEY CRUE PERFORMED SHOUT AT THE DEVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7. Weird Al Yankowich! (No further comments neccesary!)
The only thing that will top this off is if Metallica pulls another MTV
Europe and playes Last Caress/So What instead of King Nothing! Oh, and
if DT won an award too!
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"Are you gonna bark all day, little -----
doggie, or are you gonna ---- ------------- ----
bite?"-Micheal Madsen, ---- - ----
Reservoir Dogs -- - - - - - - - --
"Just victims of the in-house - - - - - - -
drive-by. They say jump, - - -- - -- - -
you say 'How high?"-Rage -- - - - - - - - --
Against The Machine ---- - - - ----
later--------------Brian ---- ------------- ----
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:57:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT Translations
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970127182912.78078F-100000@dante09.u.washington.edu>
Here we see some postings by durnik. Some of durnik's phrases could be
translated into their actual meanings, as we shall display below...
> From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
> Subject: Mercy Fuck, CD burners, British spellings
>
> Hi all!!
>
> First big news: I finally got off my ass and learned how to write
> hypertext, so expect to see me relieve Jeff and Ryan of the tedious and
> repetitive duties of posting my info on their web pages... I'll be
> taking over shortly.
"Hi all!! First big news: I'll be taking over shortly."
> Also, the most frequently asked question about Virtual Songs is
> "How's the sound quality?" As if I'm going to respond "Well, it sucks
> shit, but I want money". Folks, I think it goes without saying that if
> it wasn't any good, I wouldn't waste time producing it.
"Look, that mixup on the first 100 'Precious Things' discs where I
accidentally put recordings of my pets screaming in agony while I whipped
them into oblivion instead of actual Dream Theater stuff WON'T HAPPEN
AGAIN. So calm down."
> Take it easy, everyone!!
"You've all got about two weeks until the entire Internet is mine."
---- > From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> > Subject: Dream Theater Translations! > > Hey.... I was just sitting around here pondering on the lyrics to > a few DT songs and I thought it might make a good thread: The Dream > Theater Translations! That's right folks, I want to translate DT's > lyrics from Prog-Speak to contemporary American English.Oh, THAT kind of translating! Geeeez... Now I get it. Okay. "Death is the first dancing turtle!"
Wait a minute... After reading your story it occurs to me that you don't really want phonetic LaBriecian. Your translation sounds like either The Mirror or Status Seeker, with chocolate sprinkles of Space-Dye Vest. But since There Can Be Only One, I'm either one-third correct or zero-thirds correct or three-thirds wrong.
> Long ago my life was a mess, just like yours. Everything was chaos. I > followed the people that I thought could help me get to where I > belonged.... or where I thought I belonged. <<snippety>> > You don't want to believe that this is true... but I have no reason to > lie to you. As much as it hurts, I've had it.
Are you sure this is a translation of one of DT's songs and not one of the closing lamentations of an unsubscribing 'jammer?
Bafu Vai
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:08:10 -0500 (EST) From: ASHUSTER@LOYOLA.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2232 Message-ID: <01IEQ1OGT5RC003ALR@LOYOLA.EDU>
Hey all... I don't know if this appropriate to post here... But here goes.
I'm looking for Dream Theater bootlegs. Preferably video ones. I'm sure these have to exist somewhere. Anyways, I don't have too much DT stuff to trade, but I have plenty of other metal bands. (from Sabbath to Metallica to Type O to Kyuss, etc, etc). So if anyone would be willing to start my DT collection, I would be happy. thanks...
BTW> I'm a Type O fan for the person inquiring. But I think Type O makes better use of the keys than even our beloved DT.
l8a - Marti
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:10:10 -0500 (EST) From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Request For DT Shows Message-ID: <970127221009_303623235@emout20.mail.aol.com>
Hey Fellow Jammerz -
I was wondering if anyone had, and was willing to trade, on audio or video either of the following Dream Theater shows: 1.) 5/16/93 Albany, NY (Palace Theater) 2.) (Early January 1993) Poughkeepsie, NY (The Chance)
Sorry, but I forgot the exact date of the Chance show - maybe January 7th??? I'm dying to get a recording of these shows - can anyone help? I have lots of DT stuff (both audio and video) I'd be willing to trade copies of. Please E-Mail me privately if you can assist in the never-ending search for truth, justice, and more boots! :)
Peace! Matt T.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:48:37 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: ACOS Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970127194556.43106A-100000@dante12.u.washington.edu>
> Subject: JLB on ACOS > > JLB's voice defintely had alot of FX on Awake, but it was mostly delay > and reverb. It wasn't so compressed. It still sounds natural, and the > emotion comes thru better. On ACOS , it's overcompressed...it distorts > a lot of times.
Yes! It distorts! The lead singer of Firehouse had a similar problem... Pardon me while I prate on and on about the subject...
> ACOS was just horribly produced and mixed as has been mentioned b4(i.e. > the snare). Has anybody noticed that you can actually hear the clic > track at 19:25? It's not that obvious, I only heard it w/ headphones, > but still... it's there.
Click-track? The tempo of those clicks matches a (non-digital) watch, in fact they even sound kind of like the ticking, i.e. the volume alternates loudtick, softtick, loudtick, softtick. I always thought that part was there under the bass to signify the "passing of time" element so prevelant in the lyrics. "Oh, a stopwatch. How appropriate."
It's counting off quarter-seconds, and is nowhere near in time with the bass playing. From what I can tell the next portion of the song that explodes in is a little faster than that ticking tempo (even if it IS in 7/8), so if that's really the click-track I'd be hella surprised. Do click-tracks normally stay at an even volume or is every other tick accented like a ticking watch?
Did Scott Herman turn into Scott Cook?
Bafu Vai
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:54:55 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I'll take the daily double, Alex... Message-ID: <199701280405.VAA15414@cyberhighway.net>
> click-tracks normally stay at an even volume or is every other tick > accented like a ticking watch?
It depends on the time sig your in. 4/4 time is an accented tick every fourth, 5/4 is accented every 5th and so on.... So every other it's 1/2, =A2, cut time, 2/4, whatever you wanna call it... Never heard that click track thing. I'll have to listen for it here in a sec...
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore) ibanez@cyberhighway.net "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to." --David Arkenstone
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:52:53 -0700 From: "Mark Hatch-Miller" <ace@onfire.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: The Crue at AMA Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970127180648.006981c0@onfire.net>
WOW. You win the brownie point bud, yesits Motley Crue. Im patiently waiting for the show to com eon, itll be cool the see vince with em agian.. I wonder what song they are gonna play??
Mark
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:55:34 -0700 From: "Mark Hatch-Miller" <ace@onfire.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: Type O Negative Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970127215522.0069324c@onfire.net>
I agree completely. They are one of the best heavy metal bands around right now. I was gonna get to see em too, except at the radio sponsered concert they were playing at, the Deftones started a riot. It was a disaster. Oh well.
Mark
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:04:47 -0700 From: "Mark Hatch-Miller" <ace@onfire.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Bush, Lush, Rush AND Music Awards Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970127220437.0069324c@onfire.net>
HAHAHAH!! I can't believe Im still getting a reaction about that damn signature file!! I didn;t even come up with it either!! HAHAH!!! I STOLE IT!! OH Well
In other Bush news, I saw them on the American Music Awards. They sucked royal dick, and the singer was totally lipsynching. YOu could only tell at the very end though, so I guess he must get a lot of practice because he is pretty good at it. Speaking of the music awards, the Crue rocked. They were lipsynching too. But they still rocked. They had more fireworks and explosions than Bush did, plus Vince Neil is cooler than Gavin will ever be, and Pamela Lee introduced them. What can I say...
Mark //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Deep RUSH Thoughts:
"Today's Tom Sawyer, he gets high on you..." Gee. Somebody should tell Tom about weed! It would be kinda hard for him to fit me in his bong.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:33:42 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: The Crue at AMA Message-ID: <199701280533.WAA04996@kitts.u.arizona.edu>
At 08:55 PM 1/27/97 -0800, you wrote: >yesits Motley Crue... >...itll be cool the see vince with em agian..
Yeah, and Hetfield said "Where the fuck's your crown" in the middle of Hammett's solo. Awesome! I didn't like Motley Crue before, but I must admit I thought they kicked ass tonight. That and Metallica's great performance of King Nothing were just awesome. Seeing Alice Cooper was pretty cool to. Anyone else gonna go buy Pat Boone's new CD? ;)~
Later, Peace be with you and God bless.
~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:29:50 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Type O Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970128002737.31233A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
is terrible IMO. They're a bunch of wanabe goth players. I think the keyboardist is the only one with tallent. Their lyrics are so fucking pretensive. If you want true quality goth metal, try My Dying Bride. The lead guitar work isn't great, but it's absolutely wonderful. As for Type O, anyone who says "loving you is like fuckin' the dead" is obviously not too skilled a lyricist. Be well. Matt B
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:32:25 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Type O Message-ID: <199701280734.BAA03313@Walden.MO.NET>
Hey, anybody in or near the St. Louis area that's into Type O, they're playing (maybe even already played. Sorry if this post is a tad late, but I can't remember the date and I can't find my copy of the Riverfront Times) at The Blue Note in Columbia, MO sometime soon (or have played there within the past couple days). I'd sorta dig going if I had more cash (and if the roads weren't so nasty). Later.
Dale R. Newberry
"SCREAM FOR ME (insert city)!!!!!" -Bruce Dickinson
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:45:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Disc Message-ID: <199701280745.AA15031@crl11.crl.com>
Someone asked about Apocalypse Recs.... I'm disappointed to hear they're not delivering -- I've met the guys who run it, they're not too far from here and have sometimes gotten a table at the record show in Atlanta -- but you can get some of the stuff they offered from Dream Disc instead. Apocalypse offered Superior's CD for $25 at one point, but Dream Disc has it for $15 -- postpaid in the US. Can't beat that unless Superior gets signed here.
Contact info for Dream Disc is with the rest of my Superior links, at www.crl.com/~vanyel/coolstuf.html#superior They take orders by phone and of course via mail. No internet presence yet, alas.
-- +-- I never bared my emotions ---+ Dream Theater +- Paul W. Cashman ---+ | My passion always strong | "Scarred" | vanyel@crl.com | | I never lost my devotion <-+-> CD: Awake | pellaz@dreamt.org | + But somewhere fate went wrong -+----- http://www.crl.com/~vanyel ----+
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:20:17 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: rapper irony (NDTC) Message-ID: <199701280820.BAA78568@kitts.u.arizona.edu>
Hello, Anyone else see this as ironic? 2Pac Shakur won "Best Rap artist of the year" at the American Music Awards. Just goes to show you that Americans agree, "the best rapper is a dead one."
Later,
Peace be with you and God bless.
~Vince
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl)
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 18:38:15 -0800 From: Eddy M <edrock@connexus.apana.org.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC - Rainbow Message-ID: <32EEB817.3994@connexus.apana.org.au>
Anyone like Rainbow? I got 'Bent out of Shape' at a used place the other day and I really like it! It sounds a lot like Foreigner to me (especially the beginning of 'Stranded' his voice sounds almost EXACTLY like Foreigner), but I like it better. What other discs would a Rainbow listener recommend I pick up? Thanks for any info!
All the ones with Ronnie James Dio are excellent with Rising being a masterpiece. The album (Down to Earth) with Graham Bonnet is the one which herald the change in Ritchie Blackmores approach to songwriting which was refined further with Joe Lyn Turner. All good albums but in different styles. And Ethyl Mertz bass player Greg Smith played on the last Rainbow album, The Stranger in Us All, a couple of years ago.
E
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:43:12 -0800 From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com Subject: ANGRA Message-ID: <199701280943.BAA00159@ms.kallback.com>
STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND BUY IT NOW! IT'S THAT GOOD!
ps. imho
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:11:41 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Paul Gilbert plays Jimi Hendrix? Message-ID: <199701281411.XAA28266@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
At 6:36 PM 97.1.27 -0800, Chung Ng wrote: >I've been a huge fan of Paul Gilbert ever since I picked up Racer X's "Street >Lethal". The other day, I heard someone at the CD shop mention that he >released an album of Jimi Hendrix covers. Is this true? And if so, where can >I find it? Thanks.
Yeah,yeah. He released that live CD in 1993,maybe 1992. It's titled A Trib ute To Jimi Hendrix. That disc was released from German label,sorry I forget about that. And also released from Alfa in Japan,but you better get German version cuz,it'll save your money.
Thanks. -Keiji Nishihara Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:50:00 -0500 (EST) From: SlaveBlaze@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Type O Message-ID: <970128094913_1279196726@emout09.mail.aol.com>
I am a H U G E Type O Negative fan. Actually, they're my favorite band. I agree that they are less complicated and technical than Dream Theater, but it's the darker, heavier gothic side that draws me.
I'm going back to lurk in the shadows now.....
^v^ amy ^v^
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 10:02 EST From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT, Type O Negative, Keyboards Message-ID: <m0vpF3f-000Ag1C@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Yes, I love Type O Negative. The band has an intense sound to them that I totally think is cool. My only complaint is the new album, October Rust is a little bit weak with the exception of "Love You To Death", "Red Water (Christmas Mourn)" and "Burnt Flowers Fallen". The rest is for real fans. I think keyboards are an essential part of metal...to name some bands that incorporate keyboards into their music successfully include: Dream Theater (duh!), Savatage, Imperial Drag (actually not successfully...there really T-Rex-ish), Lillian Axe, Overkill, and Paradise Lost to name a few. By the way, does anyone have a list of all the MTV-style videos DT released. The ones I have seen are "Lie", "Take The Time", and "Another Day" (AD I happen to have a copy of on a special Rock Video Monthly deal).
Don Compton mcauburn@iinc.com
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:09:07 -0500 From: Timothy Adams <adamst@wasc.egginc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Is Bafu Skadz???, CD Burner.... Message-ID: <s2edd014.075@wasc.egginc.com>
He must be...he seems to get the last post of most digests. It's a big conspiracy, he waits for the list to pile up and then........HE gets the last word!!! :>) Am I crazy??? Is he crazy??? Maybe he just has good timing.......
-Tim (I want the last post)
oh yeah, came in to some money over the SUprebowl weekend. I'm ready to get that CD burner.......anyone with suggestions on manufacturer let me know please.......
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