YTSEJAM Digest 2236
Today's Topics:
1) Sad but true...
by Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
2) Unsbscribing
by Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff)
3) absolutely NDTC
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
4) Re: Lip Synching
by Scott Holthausen <smh@ldg.com>
5) Re: Mark Peters
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
6) Metal Church
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
7) Still CRIMSON GLORY
by Stephane AUZILLEAU <auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net>
8) Re: mdb
by matt rosin <msr7146@unix.tamu.edu>
9) RE: Beavis and Butthead
by Matt Mommaerts <mattymo@inxpress.net>
10) more type o
by Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu>
11) TNT "FIREFLY"
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
12) Re: NDTC - Mozart (the band, not the dude)
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
13) Re: TNT "FIREFLY"
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
14) Re: Rainbow
by etl.etlaywg@memo.ericsson.se
15) Re: Hey! Vote for us!
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
16) My Dying Bride/type-O
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
17) New CD's today! Enchant, Lemur Voice, J. Becker
by "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com>
18) Redneck Computer Lingo
by Scott <skooc@earthlink.net>
19) Re: Metal Church info
by Colonel Mustard <cmustard@hic.net>
20) Saigon Kick, other stuff...
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:07:31 -0800
From: Andrew Forcier <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Sad but true...
Message-ID: <199701291505.AA24136@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello folks,
>>I have Had the pleasure of meating John Petrucci (twice!)
I don't even want to think about what this might mean... Please tell me
it's a typo. PLEASE!
>>He has enough
>>distortion to be popular and enough talent to be unpopular.
Isn't it sad that this statement is actually true...
>>"Anyone else see this as ironic? 2Pac Shakur won "Best Rap artist of
>>the year" at the American Music Awards. Just goes to show you that
>>Americans agree, 'the best rapper is a dead one.'"
Not true! I think the best rapper is a MURDERED one! Still applies to
Toothpick Shaker, however...
If I may be so bold, I'd like to ask that the reviews of Type O
Negative be curbed. I'm all for non-DT discussion (I know I'm alone in
this), but the last jam was almost entirely TON content. Not that they're
a bad band. As for the DT content thing, try signing up for the NMS for
one week. There's one issue a day with only Rush content and I page down
the whole thing. It really is getting lame when the entire list is
composed of bashing opening bands.
Funny though... The openers for DT that I've seen were all good
in jammer opinions: Galactic Cowboys, I Mother Earth, Rudess &
Morgenstein, and Einstein.
TWO DAYS TILL STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!!! Already got my tickets...
Andrew
_____________________
When the music stops,
There's only the sound of the rain...
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 10:25:03 -0500
From: Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Unsbscribing
Message-ID: <318145.ensmtp@tanagraphics.com>
I need to change my email address for ytsejam. I forgot how to unsubscribe,
and the messages I sent to ytsejam-owner have not worked.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please reply privately.
Rock On,
-Raf-
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:32:34 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: absolutely NDTC Message-ID: <199701291534.HAA25594@pawn.ax.com>
Quick question, no DT content, dunno who to ask, someone must know, won't waste too much BW...
the game: Tomb Raider for Sega Saturn the dilemma: How do I get the gears to work to open up the dam to let the water in... sorry bout the content, but E-mail privately if you know the answer....
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 15:19:21 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Holthausen <smh@ldg.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Lip Synching Message-ID: <199701291535.HAA25599@pawn.ax.com>
>No $#!+. It's bad enuff that Bush can't play a song with more than one >chord, that they have to LIPSYNC to the friggin' thing. It kinda makes >ya wonder....does NIN lipsync live performances? With the midi >already taking care of the instruments, and the vocalists lipsyncing, >bands will require LESS talent to sell the "next big thing." > >:P > >I'm just bitter. I was sleeping through the AMA last night, and I missed >Metallifuckin'A. > >~Eckie
Actually, Trent Reznor (NIN) utilizes live vocals, bass, guitar, and drums on tour (as well as all of the sequencing equipment). I will never defend Bush however. ;->
Scott Holthausen -smh@ldg.com
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:04:30 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Mark Peters Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970129110304.13961A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Uh... Mark... You're a wierdo with a capital IE. What the hell are you going on about, FAQ-ignoring? Just had to ask. Be well and lay off the cheap drugs for a while. Matt B
"The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College)
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 11:06 EST From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Metal Church Message-ID: <m0vpcWo-0000PvC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Metal Church was probably one of the best 80's thrash metal bands. Their first 2 albums are the ones I recommend most..The Dark and Metal Church. If you like David Wayne's voice, he was also in another band called Reverend in 1990-1992 although after hearing one of their albums called Live, I came to the conclusion the band isn't nearly as good as Metal Church. By the way, the Reverend albums are mega-hard to find. I think most have gone out of print. Anyhow, Metal Church then released another album with Mike Howe in 1988 called Blessing In Disguise. Although it had 2 extremely powerful songs (Fake Healer and Anthem To The Estranged), it was probably their worst effort other than those 2 songs. In 1991, the band released an album called "The Human Factor". Every song on this CD is amazing beyond belief. Mike's voice works so well with the band on this album compared to BID. Next up and lastly was Hanging In The Balance. Another absolutely amazing album...this time aided by producer Paul O'Neill (Savatage) giving it a more progressive feel especially on tracks like Waiting For A Saviour, Conductor, and Gods Of Second Chance. Sadly, that was the last of Metal Church. There are rumors that they will re-form to make an album called Killer Elite but none of this is true. Also, Mike Howe was in a band called Heretic before Metal Church and made one record called The Breaking Point on Metal Blade...once again, very hard to find.
Don Compton mcauburn@iinc.com
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:17:26 +0100 (MET) From: Stephane AUZILLEAU <auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Still CRIMSON GLORY Message-ID: <199701290717.IAA07291@zen.dedal.fr.net>
Hi jammers,
After myfirst post concerning the new CRIMSON GLORY, I have received tons of e-mails... I'm not sure to have the time to answer all e-mails privately, so this is a general response. I have heard more than half an hour of INSTRUMENTAL stuff, newly recorded (not old demos), and this was back in october in 96. At this time, my friend who was wupposed to sign the new album of Crimson Glory for France (that is the reason why he had the demos, in addition to the fact that he is a friend of Warren Wyatt, the Crimson Glory manager) told me that Midnight was working with the band and was supposed to sing on this album. We didn't talk about that since then BUT I will give him a call to get reliable infos and I will let you know as soon as possible. But I can assure you that the music I've heard is miles away from CRUSH, the last record of Drenning and CO (even is Crush is not bad in the Alice in Chain's style!).
That's all for now.
Stephane Auzilleau
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:24:52 -0600 (CST) From: matt rosin <msr7146@unix.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: mdb Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970129093240.19c7c224@tam2000.tamu.edu>
>I also agree that My Dying Bride is very good, but their latest album, >"The Angel And The Dark River," is just way too repetitive...
no, no, no... their newest album just came out last week. it's called "like gods of the sun". i mean, i loved "the angel and the dark river", but the new album is light years better. possibly their best. i still can't decide whether i like "like gods of the sun" or "turn loose the swans" best. give the new one a listen.
-matt.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ m a t t r o s i n / imagescape@tamu.edu S U R R E A L I T Y / http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/ dark ethereal music / po box 864, college station, tx 77841-0864 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:51:32 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Mommaerts <mattymo@inxpress.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: Beavis and Butthead Message-ID: <199701291651.KAA20850@ns1.inxpress.net>
>hello all > >i was channel surfing the other day and i saw a comercial for the new >season of beavis and butthead...in the background you can hear some >music...now at first i thought i was hearing things but thn i saw the >comercial again and well it sounds exactly like a part of the drum solo in >the Mind Control bootleg...can anyone tell me if that is actually part of >a dream theater song or was mike portnoy and john petrucci borrowing from >some other song???
Yes it is part of another song....
The song is: "Raining Blood" from Slayer the song is on the Reign in Blood album.
On another note...I got the new Yngwie Malmsteen CD... it's all cover songs, I think the name of it is "Inspirations" It starts off with Carry On Wayward Son, and has a few Rainbow songs, Hendrix, and version of Anthem!!!
Matt
P.S. SELF PLUG...Any Madison, WI. area Jammers can listen to the Mosh Pit on 89.9 FM WORT, on Monday nights from 11p - 2a
mattymo@inxpress.net http://www.inxpress.net/~mattymo http://www.inxpress.net/~mattymo/moshpit
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:45:49 -0500 (EST) From: Kramer <CK78729@ltu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: more type o Message-ID: <01IES8CDJHCK94E362@ltu.edu>
Well, I asked your opinion and you gave it to me. I can't directly compare DT and TON because they are so different. DT goes more for the complex arrangements and virtuosity while Type O has a darker, more layered sound. I love em both. I like Bloody Kisses the best because it is so diverse. I been listening to them since before BK came out, so I was hooked since their first album. Going to go see them this Friday in Toledo for the sixth time. I wished DT had toured in support of Awake as much as Type O does. The I&W came to where I was living at the time 3 times, yet they only made one pass on the Awake tour. Hopefully the next one will be much longer. Any jammers going to this Toledo Type O show?
-C
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:04:40 -0500 (EST) From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TNT "FIREFLY" Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970129120358.12391A-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
Did anyone out there hear the new TNT album entitled "Firefly". Get back to me on this...thanks alot!!!
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:26:14 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: NDTC - Mozart (the band, not the dude) Message-ID: <199701291726.CAA17953@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
Yeah, Mozart released 2 other albums. Those titles are "Eve" and "Paris Is Burning". Unfortunately they don't have record deal except in Japan. So it's expensive to get those discs. I don't have those discs,so I can't tell about them. Mmmm....
Anyway,take care. -Keiji Nishihara Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:30:15 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: TNT "FIREFLY" Message-ID: <199701291730.CAA17994@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
At 9:12 AM 97.1.29 -0800, Dan wrote: >Did anyone out there hear the new TNT album entitled "Firefly". Get back >to me on this...thanks alot!!!
Well,I haven't heard it yet. Cuz,that album will out on 5th.Feb. in my country.
But I got their 1st single from "Firefly" album,it's titled 'Daisy Jayne'. This sounds like Dizzy Mizz Lizzy (Do you know who they are?). It's very melodic song,but completely different from what they used to be. You better check their album.
Thanks. -Keiji Nishihara Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.or.jp tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:35:23 +0100 From: etl.etlaywg@memo.ericsson.se To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Rainbow Message-ID: <01IESMWEUFDE94DNXF@eds.ericsson.se>
Hello all,
All this talk of Rainbow made me misty-eyed :) Rainbow and DIO are definitely one of my all time best bands.
The jammer who posted earlier that liked 'Bent of Shape' wont go wrong with 'Difficult to Cure'. It's a bit more mainstream and has songs with some great hooks. For early DIO you MUST get the following Black Sabbath's 'Heaven and Hell' and 'Mob Rules'; some claim that Black Sabbath reached an all time peak with those two albums. And when DIO eventually formed his own self-named band, I would recommend 'Holy Diver' and 'Last in Line' to start off with, DIO's vocals are just brilliant on them.
I'm not too sure about DIO's latest release 'Angry Machines', an earlier post suggested that DIO was basically past it now.
Thanks for the memories :)
Ash.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 11:54:33 PST8 From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Hey! Vote for us! Message-ID: <9700298545.AA854564593@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
>So, everyone go to http://www.newartvision.com/ifrenzy.html, check out >the six nominees, and cast your vote! You're allowed to vote once a >day, so support your favorite page as much as you can! Hey D-man! Thanks for the plug! <G>... I'll have to cast a vote your way <G>... Everybody go check 'em out! 8^) ~Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) Email: mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com / mkizer@goodnet.com / fugazi@weirdness.com URL: http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer Dream Theater Song Book -^- Fates Warning Island in the Stream
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:19:50 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My Dying Bride/type-O Message-ID: <199701291926.TAA191221@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 01/28/97 8:43pm -0800 I remember seeing one of their video's on Much Music about a year ago. I can't remember what album came out then or what it was off of, but the video had some sorta centipeed crawling around, The song had something to do about a fire or flame or something. Anyways, I was totally blown away when the guitarists did his solo, the guy was like 4 finger tapping, like, holy fuck, it wasn't just a quick show off thing either. I remember I was going to buy the album that song was on but when I listened to it, it was really really low key, just like that song. I thought it was going to be heavy but it was almost relying on total atmosphere. I think I gotta go back and take another listen.
As for Type-o Negative...I've encountered alot in my life, most people would probably go nuts in my life, this is the only band, that has ever scared me to the extent where I'd kneel down and saying about 20 sets of the Rosary. I gotta admit though, their version of Black Sbbath on the tribute is really REALLY good, then again, I only listen to THAT during the day.
Mark *You must unlearned, what you have learned, only then, will you have learned something. - Yoda, Star Wars *I have learned, that I know nothing - Mark Smeets *You have not yet completed your training - Yoda, Star Wars Check out the Megadeth Faq: http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/FRONT.HTM My Page: http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/INDEX.HTM
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 13:33:54 -0600 From: "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New CD's today! Enchant, Lemur Voice, J. Becker Message-ID: <199701291938.LAA29322@pawn.ax.com>
Hi gang, I finally got my new Cd's from CdConnection today and listened to them, so I thought I'd give my thoughts on them. LEMUR VOICE - 'Insights' : This is pretty cool progressive feeling stuff, but a lot less heavy than DT. Kinda different and weirdish feeling in a lot of parts, but very interesting and enjoyable once you get into it. ENCHANT - 'Blueprint of the World' : This CD is VERY good. Also very progressive sounding, and along a lot of the same lines as L.V., but much more memorable melodies. All around good songwriting on this one. JASON BECKER - 'Perspective' : My feelings are kinda mixed on this disc. I think possibly my expectations were too high, seeing as we have had so many glowing reviews saying how incredible and moving it is. It is excellent music, with a lot of moody feel to it, definitely unique to say the least. The songwriting is great, and the guitar work has a lot of feeling. On the other hand, It wasn't as emotion-provoking for me as a lot of other music has been. Still a great album though! STEVE MORSE - I have gotten 3 of his discs in the past 2 weeks and there is nothing to say other than STEVE IS INCREDIBLE! Man that dude can play some serious guitar and thats all I have to say about that.
See y'all later -rob
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:50:10 -0800 (PST) From: Scott <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Redneck Computer Lingo Message-ID: <199701292050.MAA03565@sweden.it.earthlink.net>
Got this from another list and thought *some* of you might enjoy this.
>"Hard drive" -- Trying to climb a steep, muddy hill with 3 flat tires > and pulling a trailer load of fertilizer. >"Keyboard" ---- Place to hang your truck keys. >"Window" ------ Place in the truck to hang your guns. >"Floppy" ------ When you run out of Polygrip. >"Modem" ------- How you got rid of your dandelions. >"ROM" --------- Delicious when you mix it with coca cola. >"Byte" -------- First word in a kiss-off phrase. >"Reboot" ------ What you do when the first pair gets covered with > barnyard stuff. >"Network" ----- Activity meant to provide bait for your trot line. >"Mouse" ------- Fuzzy, soft thing you stuff in your beer bottle in > order to get a free case. >"LAN" -------- To borrow as in, "Hey Delbert! LAN me yore truck." >"Cursor" ------ What some guys do when they are mad at their wife > and/or girlfriend. >"bit" --------- A wager as in, "I bit you can't spit that watermelon > seed across the porch longways." >"digital control" -- What yore fingers do on the TV remote. >"packet" ------ What you do to a suitcase or Wal-Mart bag before a > trip.
Scott
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:17:19 -0600 From: Colonel Mustard <cmustard@hic.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Metal Church info Message-ID: <32EFBE5F.67E6@hic.net>
> > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:47:26 -0500 (EST) > From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu> > To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> > Subject: Re: Opinions and Metal Church > Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970129004519.13702A-100000@colrain.williams.edu> > > First off, I want to thank Mike Bahrr for responding without an ounce of > defensiveness to my TON attack. It really wasn't an attack, I just really > dislike them and wanted to make that known to people gathering opinions. > And... Can someone tell me about Metal Church? I slobber of great guitar > work and I think I heard some from Metal Church before the last Metalica > show. Please inlighten me. Be well. > Matt B > > "The dead are rarely violent." (Shawn Rosenheim, Asst. Prof. Williams College) >
Hey,
Metal Church, to my understanding, is no longer together, but is well worth the time to listen to... check out http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bruss/Metal/Metal.html It's a place called the BNR Metal Pages... and serves as an excellent dbase for metal and the likes... you should be able to find a listing of all Metal Church albums there.. Anyhow - Metal Church has been around since maybe '85 (a guess). Some of my favorite albums include "Blessing in Disguise" , "The Human Factor", and the latest release, in 1992 - "Hanging in the Balance". A note: HITB has a lame cover... please don't let it sway you... As for their earlier releases, The Dark, Metal Church, etc... I really don't deserve to give an opinion as I really haven't heard much of it... But as for their sound they do a good job of trading off solos between guitarists, and the vocalist, Mike Howe, has a good Metal voice, in my opinion. Metal Church could be classified as simply heavy metal... they're not death or doom, but more along the lines of Paradise Lost without the goth influence, and with soloing! (not to bash on PL, but you must admit there is an lack of guitar solo work) So- give them a listen - you won't be disappointed!
·•Colonel Mustard•· Mark
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:15:55 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Saigon Kick, other stuff... Message-ID: <199701292115.QAA16643@rpa11.gl.umbc.edu>
> Okay, so first off, with the discussion about Saigon Kick - I love the first > two (wuz lucky enough to see them open for Extreme on the III Sides tour), but > then they lost their lead singer and I was *highly* disappointed with Water > (I'm sorry but they just totally wimped out on that one - remember, this is > *my* opinion). Anyway, how does Devil in Details compare to each of the > others - in terms of the musical direction, keeping in mind that I like the > first 2, but despise the third one.
WEll, I can't say I DESPISE "Water," but that's my least favorite of the four of them <although I haven't heard the first one much>. "Water" took a long time to grow on me and there are still some parts I can't stand.
As far as "Devil in the Details" is concerned, imagine a CD with a mix as eclectic as "Water" but with all the heaviness of "The Lizard" and some damn fine guitar playing and synth programming.
> As I sat here listening to the Queen tribute, I wondered if anyone knows > if the Freddie Mercury Memorial Concert from Wembley a few years ago was > ever released. I am interested in hearing the stuff Extreme did. You > can email me privately.
It was released on video. Someday when I have an actual functional bootlist I'm going to do some hi-fi audio from the vid and put it on there.
> Without further delay, the first Dream Theater Translation!: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status Seeker.
Steve Z
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